The Life and Death of the Aprilia Shiver & Dorsoduro
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- The Aprilia Shiver & Dorsoduro 900 are going to be the latest casualities of the new Euro 5 emissions. Lets look at the history of the bike, how it fares in the used bike market and if it will rise from the ashes.
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Its rare i totally agree with a review. My 750 Dorsoduro is a great bike for the most part. Very well built, a strong (when fueled correctly) engine although not economical. There is also another fault I found on mine that is not so well documented. If the battery becomes weak the ECU can go into a lockout when the starter is pressed. The engine cranks fine and all sounds well. But the engine will not start. I found this a few years ago when I needed the bike one winter morning. Tried several attempts to start it but nothing. No error messages on the dash, fuel pump primed fine just on start. Guessing the engine had no spark. When I jumped the battery from my car the engine started straight away although cranking was no faster . Connecting an oscilloscope to the ECU showed on first press of the start button the battery voltage dropped to 8.3 V causing the ECU to lock out in an undervoltage crash.
With a normal voltmeter all looks fine.
So if your Aprilia won't start in the winter check battery connections and battery condition. It took me a while to sus this out.
Great comment mate and hopefully it helps a few people out
Hi Simon, Problem is the long mass cable running from battery to the front starter motor, giving too much drop of voltage for rest of system while starting. I made an extra mass connection directly on the frame next to the (-) pole of the battery and the problem was solved. Starting is if you had a new battery after the mod. At least it worked for me. Also check the power connections bolts on the starter motor, here some corrotion can buildup on the contacts because it's a bit exposed to the elements.
@@infokanaal Not on mine. Cranking speed is fine. The problem is on initial crank there is a brief voltage drop that locks out the EHU resulting in no spark or fail injector actuation.
I fell in love with Dorsoduro when it came out on 2008. Managed to get mine 10 years later. It's from 2012 and I love it. Wherever I go, it doesn't get unnoticed!
Still feel the same about it? I really like super moto bikes but want something that can keep up on highways better so been trying decide on a dorsoduro 750, a hyper motard 821 or the 900cc version, or the KTM 690 smc. It's incredibly hard to decide bc I wish I could have all 3 but I can only get one for now 😂😂
@@josephlilley9249 Hi! Yup, I still feel the same about my DD. It is the bike where I always turn around to look at it when I park it in any place! If you don't turn around to look at it when you leave it, that is not your bike... Mine just got a new pair of shoes this past weekend. As for the models you're looking for, bear in mind that these are not the most indicated to run on highways, they are not built for wind protection. But in town, they're the best. Super easy to ride and make tight maneuvers. I use mine almost everyday for the past months. If I had the chance, I would go for the DD 900. It's more recent, comes with a new dash and has a more robust engine. In your case, I would reccomend to ride each one of the models that you have in mind to choose from, that is the best way for you to decide ;)
Damn. I got a 08 Shiver 750 as my 1st bike and I love her to death. She's been with me for 5 years now and I love her just as much as I did back then
hows the reliability
@@Faazer6 really good! just like the original author of the comment, I've had mine for around the same time, put tons of kms on it and still didn't have a single mechanical issue or any issue related to reliability. The transmission sometimes needs a bit of dedication to not accidentally hit a false neutral but that's the worst I can say. Mine is now at 55k km, a friend of mine has one with 60k+ and another friend in the 30ks and they all run flawlessly.
I'm now over 60 years old. I have owned 19 bikes so far. I still have my 2010 Dorsoduro (bought new), it is easily the best bike I have ever owned. In the twisties, nothing keep up with it. It has a 14 front sprocket, Leo Vince exhaust & mid-pipe, Fat Duck, Shorai battery, Wilbers Rear Shock and Healtech shifter indicator. With all the lost weight as well as upgrades, it's a very different bike.
Sounds like a well set up bike. Never sell it!
Fat duck?
@@cumnmrmptaaa4234 it's a popular fuel controller for them. Strange name, seems to do the job though!
What are the best weight saving mods
@@cumnmrmptaaa4234 exhaust for sure. The stock ones are very heavy
Had a dorso 750 a few years back, sold it and always regretted it. Got my hands on a new dorso 900 and this ones a keeper 👊
I have a Shiver900 2018, I absolutely love it
Glad to hear that
loved the way you made that video, subscribed !!! cheers from Bali
Very appreciated, glad you enjoyed it
I had a 2008 Shiver 750 , then after a while i sold it , then years later i found a nice deal on 2012 Shiver 750 , i just missed the akrapovic sound from the V-TWIN. I still have it today it absolutely blast. I love it because it's unique and you won't see them that often.
Glad you love it. I'm keen to get my hands on a 900 or 1200, but they are rare as hens teeth these days
I tested the dorsoduro 1200 at the dealer just for fun and because it looked awsome, long story short i took it home the same day and still have it as my only bike today and have never regretted it.
Nice video, got a sub from me!
Thanks bud, glad you enjoyed it. I've always wanted a Dorso 1200, they are rare now and pretty expensive. I tried to buy one years ago, but someone else bought it before I could pick it up!
They didn’t sell well in the US and always went on sale. I got my 2018 Dorsoduro 900 in 2019 for $6500 out the door. I actually had the 2013 Dorsoduro 750 that was totaled and loved it so I kept my eye out for sales and jumped on that incredible sale
Mate thats an incredible deal. I see there are still some for sale, but I'm moving back to Australia so its no good to me. Hopefully some others pick up a cracking deal too
Thats crazy
I briefly owned a 2012 shiver 750 abs. It definitely had that Italian flair/flaw. It was a damn pretty bike (pearl white with red frame) you felt like you were riding something a little special. It had a nice amount of character with a few vibrations here & there & a great decel pop around town. I really did enjoy owning it, but ultimately I moved it on in favour of an MT09 tracer. The tiny fuel range & lack of/high price of aftermarket accessories ment that it just didn't suit my needs.
On one hand I don't miss it, on the other it would have been nice to have it parked in the shed between my monster & tracer
Just bought myself a brand new shiver 900. Paid £6600 for it. The same price as a 2020 model MT07 and £300 cheaper than the 2021 model. Think I've got myself a pretty good deal there. Can't wait to pick it up.
Thats a cracking deal. Enjoy!
An 08 shiver 750 was my first bike. One of my peeves with it is the catalytic converter that ran under the seat made it a very hot bike to ride when the weather is warm. I didn't realize how underpowered they are until I moved on to other bikes. I enjoyed it while I had it. Put around 12k miles on it for the 5 years I had it. I'm on the shorter side too and it sits high. Slow riding and maneuvering is pretty tricky as well. The reason I ultimately sold it was the complete lack of aftermarket availability in the US. Anything you could get was horrendously expensive.
Underpowered compare to what kinda bike?
@@TheRemkoe not so much underpowered but the weight really killed whatever power it had. I've ridden the fz07 and it was much quicker. The mt09 also. I ride a Yamaha VMAX now and nothing below 1000cc touches it.
I bought an 09 750 Dorso new, at mile 50 it died. The nearest Aprilia dealer refused to work on it under warranty. Trucked it back to the place where I bought it, turns out the ignition switch wire was pinched from the factory by the gas tank.
Other than that it was a fun bike to ride, owned it a few years, slightly heavy bike, a little under powered, fuel tank was too small, but it put a smile on my face when I rode 'er!
Nice mate. I thought the same when I've ridden them. I'd be really interested in a fettled with 900 or just go all out of the 1200!
Still have my 2008 Shiver 750. Used the O2 dongle to improve low end throttle response (was on for 6 months) but all I got was O2 sensor errors which eventually clogged up my ECU. I just got used to riding slow in Sport mode with small throttle inputs which fixed the problem. And they are cold frogs. They have a rock solid chassis which in turn makes it a sweet handler and suspension which can handle poor roads. Front forks are a bit lacking.
The dorso 750 with me more than 13 years, although small electronics failure sometimes, it's a lovely bike with special character. I'm looking for a shop sell LCD display of the speedometer .
Great to hear. If you're in Australia I might know a guy who can help you out
Great video, thanks.
These unknown bikes are beautiful, and the sound of the exhaust is unreal. Just wish they hadn't built them so dang heavy and under powered. Have to scratch my head especially on the 1200 as all the specs are there for it to have been a super strong running engine.
Wonder just what can be done to fix these things, or just buy a new 890 Duke and be done.
Thanks bud, glad you liked it. Yeah they are bloody heavy, especially compared to a MT09 or 890, let alone the new 660's. They will always be 'nice' bikes, but never thrill like the others. The only really things you can do is install a fat duc and a set of pipes. You can get 900 a LOT cheaper than the rest though and they are still really good bikes
loved my 2009 Shiver
Tommorow I'm putting 2 new battlax on my DD 900 2018. Bough the bike brand new, I've done long touring(yeah range suck) and right now I do city driving mostly. I'm tall and the bike is tall so I feel pretty safe and seen on it. I can see farther also as I sit way higher than someone in a car. Also the heavyweight is a bit intimidating but it makes the bike really stable at highway speed. But the wind hits you hard if you want to reach over legal speed!!! Great vid, thanks!
Glad you enjoy the bike and thanks!
I have a 2016 750 ABS Dorsoduro and added Arrow exhaust with re-MAP, forged wheels and 520 chain and sprockets. This combination of mods greatly improved everything that is complained about in this video. I would prefer an extra 25 horsepower but doubt it could be done practically with a 750 but easily done if it was a 1200. I doubt the 1200 could corner as good at the 750. The 750 is a great bike and I would buy it again. I hope Aprilia keeps making Dorsoduros.
Sounds like a good thing. I've been trying to get my hands on a 1200 but they are rare as hens teeth. I rode the 750 when they first came out and it was a really nice bike. Only problem was I had a Tuono at the time...
Amazing video!
Thank you very much!
the dorsoduro is one of the best bikes ive ever rode on
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I'm thinking on getting a Shiver or Dorsoduro 750 to go to work.. great looking bikes
Nice bikes for sure
Still own 2015 shiver. Awesome bike that has most accurate speedometer. Compare to japanese bike cruising at 200kmh other bike speedometer stated over 210kmh at same speed.
I love my Aprilia shiver but I ended up wrecking it and ended up selling it after that really interested in the new Aprilia Touareg 660 coming out can't find any more info on the bike though really want to know when it's coming out..
I've done a bit of digging on the Tuareg and I don't think it will be out this year. There will most likely be a reveal later in the year though. I'm keen on it too, the 660 range looks fantastic
I have a 13 shiver 750. I love the bike, as my dad bought it brand new, I rode it home. He maybe out 100 miles on it tops, but I put about 2k on it. Out riding with some of my track buddies we hit a ton of gravel that was in a perfect straight line across the road. I ended up lowsliding. That was in June. I just got the bike back because its impossible to find fairing and some other parts. I love the bike, but waiting 8 months for not that much damage wasnt fun.
That sucks bud. No doubt covid did not help with getting parts
@@onthebackwheel yeah some parts were labeled as discontinued like the fairings...
@@kodyhogan3568 frustrating. Hopefully you get it all sorted. I thought there would be plenty of parts for it still
@@onthebackwheel Yeah especially for a 2013! I love aprilias, but if they are truly discontinued, it makes me not want to ride it as much and spend time on my husqvarna 701
@@kodyhogan3568 not a bad replacement!
I have a 2010 750 Dorso Factory. Quality, leftfield bike that gets heaps of attention. Downsides - too heavy and utterly state of shite fuelling as standard. Seriously - in sport mode the fuelling is so bad and snatchy it is pretty close to dangerous in stop go traffic. Also - tank is hilariously small. Putting akaras and a lithium battery on it saves around 10kg from up high which is very noticable. Putting a 'fatduc' on it as mentioned in the vid is a must - $50 to transform your bike. Now runs super smooth. Fantastic bike - not the hooligan it looks like but sounds mega and goes really well. Reliable, characterful well made machine that is an utter bargain. Just need to convince myself that the 5kg weight saving by going to RSV4 factory wheels is worth the cost now...
Thanks for the review Alan. Always good to get proper feeback from an owner. I've been close to getting one a few times now. When you are changing wheels, unless you get them cheap, you'd want to keep the bike for a long time!
"Casualties of the Euro 5 emissions standards". That is exactly the plan. Between the EPA and Euro 5, the standards are nearly impossible to meet. Just a way to force the manufacturers to go Electric, without an outright ban on petrol.
Had an all black Dorsoduro 750 2009 bike, kept it for 3 years and had to sale it due to a back injury. Should never have sold it, I’ve owned 20 plus bikes and by far this is the one I miss. Good low owner / mileage bikes still sale for the same money today as I sold mine for. Only going to be collectible in the future, buy one now if you find a clean one. Did a novice track day and took out bike sports bikes on braking and cornering but obviously couldn’t match straight line power.
I've been keeping an eye out for a 1200, but as you said they are just holding their value big time (and rare as hens teeth)
Great video! Looking for a DD 750 :)
Thanks and good luck on the search
Have dorsoduro 750 since 2008 still a head turner
How many miles? Planning on getting one
Love my 750 with the dual Akro exhaust, but the fuel range is annoying. Also need to be able to adjust the mapping.
That fuel range is a bit rough!
I have a Scarabeo 250 and a BMW GS. It’s totally irrational but now I want a Dorsoduro!
Nothing wrong with that, more the merrier!
Replacing a rorty v-twin with a sewing machine inline twin is a travesty. The 660 Tuono seems like a wonderful bike, but I love riding v2 and v4 bikes. I'd consider an I3, but I2s have always been disappointing in my experience.
i got a showroom condition dorsoduro 1200 3 years ago i will never sell it its everything i ever wanted in 40 years of biking and it always draws a crowd where ever i park it
Awesome mate, never sell it!
That 1200 was the most scary bike I have ever ridden.
Weapons!
Yo amo mi shiver 2020
I have a 750 Dorso and I'll keep it forever, (O2 sensor disconnected for drivability)
Could’ve just got an O2 emulator. I have the 900 and have 2 of them and a decat and performance air filter. Runs great now
@@WStar4Life I'm getting a rapidbike ecu and tune soon
Why did you disconnect it?
@@krypton9884 it runs way too lean when cruising for emissions
while the Tuono 660 is fine, light, powerful, it's just not the same as that sweet V2 900, is it ?
No replacement for displacement
Have you rode a 2010-13 750 Shiver? And what are your thoughts ?
I have only ridden the Dorsoduro range sorry. I had a friend who owned a 2012 Shiver and he really liked it. Are you looking at buying one?
@@onthebackwheel I have a 2013 shiver, it’s my second bike and I like it! But I don’t know how it compares to other bikes out there in it’s class
Hope you enjoy it! The Shiver is a really good bike made better with some mods. It doesn't have the outright power and is a little bit heavier than the opposition, but it is a nice unique package. The MT07/09 are more hoon bikes, the Z750's from the time are OK but nothing special. The Street Triples are probably the best opposition for them at the time, they are top bikes. I also had the 2012 Brutale 675 which was a lot of fun. but not perfect
I've owned my 2012 Shiver 750 since new (bought late in 2013). I've put more than 120,000 km on it since then. Fun bike. It's comfortable, handles well, brakes well, fast enough for most riding especially around suburbia. The torque of the v-twin makes it effortless to ride and get away from traffic at the lights. Looks and sounds great. It's a blast in the twisties. I've changed my stock exhaust to a RoadsItalia exhaust and installed a lithium battery which has shaved some weight off. The lithium battery weighs just under 1kg compared to 4kg for the stock battery.
The specs of the bike don't do it justice if you're looking for a street bike. Before I bought the Shiver I test rode a Honda Blackbird which has heaps more power and is a silky smooth ride. I was bored within minutes of sitting on it. You have to be doing close to 100km/h in first gear to get some excitement out of the motor and although it's not slow slow before then it just feels lifeless. The Shiver lets you rip through the gears a bit and is way more fun to ride despite having less power.
I own a shiver 750 and there are 2 things i hate no fuel gauge only a light the comes on way to early sometimes and it weighs a metric ton and with my smaller stature 178 cm and about 68 kilos it is not an easy bike to park its like it wants to tip over and i am sure if i drop it i can't pick it up alone
They certainly aren't light! The question is though, do you like it?
@@onthebackwheel yes i do like it it my first power full bike so i don't have much to compare it with owned a 125 before
@@kevinhekers2380 glad you enjoy it. Have you done any mods to it? A lot of weight to be saved with an exhaust change
@@onthebackwheel the exhaust where already changed before i bought it leo vince carbon lucky me i have gotten rid of the chinese clutch and brake levers and the chinese mirors that are to small to even see a thing i added some sliders on the frame and some carbon fairings that came with the bike and a tom tom rider gps i might change the grips and bar ends on the handle bar because those are made from metal and can be slippy at some times i am just mostly turning the bike back to original
@@kevinhekers2380 sounds like a nice bike. Those leo vince aren't cheap either, nice get
It was always a shame that these models had piddly little fuel tanks. Riders just don’t want to have to be looking for fuel every hundred miles. My SL1000 Falco had a 21l tank and was good for 180 miles on a run. That’s what the Shiver needed....and to get rid of the high level cans...stupid idea on a sports bike. I’d buy one tomorrow if it had a 19l tank but it’s the tank range that has always put me off.
Yeah it makes it tough. The shiver has a reasonable range, but the Dorsoduro's is terrible. The Falco is a really good bike, I'd be interested in a new one, but the Tuono seems to cover that base now
DNA filter, dominator decat, Gpr race slip ons. I also updated to supersprox stealth sprockets front and rear with EK z3d chain.
I have so many more unlisted upgrades to my DD900 it’s transformed this bike. I love my DD900.
I’ll be posting a video soon when I’m done with my graphics kit. Also waiting on new tires as the Pirelli Diablo Rosso 4’s are coming next month.
Oh nice bud, I'll check it out when it's done. I've been keeping an eye out for second hand ones
What does the decat do? I have a shiver 900 with GPR slip ons, but always looking for more performance
@@phjansen the decat takes out the catalytic convertor. Essentially it makes the exhaust more free flowing. Definitely worth doing if it hasn't been done already
@@onthebackwheel I thought the catalytic converter came off entirely as the slip ons required it came off as a whole.
@@phjansen it might already be done then. It might be worth sending Peter a message just to double check
Bought my Shiver 8 months ago put about 8000 km till my bolts came off the sprocket and was left stranded . Brought it back to the dealer and thinking this would be under warranty ..guesse what ? not under warranty, Im still waiting for my parts its three months so far and counting. Italians make good products till they break . I was warned before buying the bike
Glad to hear you love it. They were never known for their amazing fuel economy, but that's better than I thought it would be! Have you done any mods to it?
@@onthebackwheel nope. I normally change my bikes every four years. I put too many miles on them. :)
Shiver 750 here.
Just got my hands on the 2018 Dorsoduro 900, and was one of the last two brand new Dorso's in my area.
Nice dude, enjoy! They are a top bike
@@onthebackwheel This bike is quite tall and heavy, and I need to have her seat shaven down a bit.
Been dying to ride her, though.
@@E2Moto oh it will definitely need a set of pipes and a lithium battery, those stock pipes weight a ton!
@@onthebackwheel Definitely Akrapovic sometime after her break-in period, and still thinking about a lithium battery. The bike struggles to crank a bit with her stock battery, and I hope lithium will help her out on that, even just a bit. Lithium worked well for my DRZ after I had Stage 2 cams put in her, and that noticeable weight loss, too.
@@E2Moto they cost a bit of money, but I've never regretted putting one in. Makes the decision a lot easier when your bike is struggling to start or the battery is cactus though
Specs sheet shopping killed the Shiver and Dorsoduro, and can't blame buyers either. Who buys an old design bike fitted with an engine that makes less power than their competition? The Aprilia's were stuck in a niche market, only bought by people who knew what they were getting into and loved the character of those bikes in spite of their shortcomings in the peak power and weight department. In the cruiser market that sounds like a deal, but the standard/naked market is too aggressive and number driven for bikes like these.
Aprilia had to move on and I can't blame them for that.
But that didn't stop me from buying a Dorsoduro 900.
Great comment mate and spot on. I'd still have a Dorso 900 in a heart beat (for the right price of course)
I have Shiver 900. After 2 years i think about to sell it and...2 years later i did't sell it. Why? I try many new bikes and from handling, breake power and just fun factor i did't find any other new bike which give me the same level of satisfaction so...Maybe i try sell it in this year but...I'm still not sure i want do this for sure :D Only when someone give me proper price, that i have no traume after sell this bike :D It will be hard :D I dont agree with fuel economy failure...If I ride Shiver on SPort mode realle agresiv it still stays on 5,5l/100km. When i ride daily trips sinks even to 3,8l/100km, mostly 4,2l/100km. You can search another 900cc bike with same fuel economy and I sure You, You did't find. And from service costs stays between regular Japanese bikes and Ducati. So, it's in some areas not cvheap but also not in highest level of payment what You must to consider.
Sounds like you've got a keeper mate
@@onthebackwheel 👌 Exactly. I have 2 other bikes but only Shiver is the one, which i have more fun but also much more respect for :)
The Dorsoduro actually did get an Euro 5 update...
I don't believe so, but I'm happy to be corrected. Got a link?
@@onthebackwheel Wait nvm, still says E4 on their site. Guess it didnt get updated. Shame because Im not really a fan of the P twin on the 660, I prefer V twins.
@@B0sTonCeltics20534 all good, I knew it wasn't but wasn't going to be a dick 😂. I was like you, but the Tenere 700 changed my mind. I'm getting a 660 test bike soon, I'm keen to see how it compares to the old twin
they are a blast in the twisties. a bit underpowered but handling/brakes make up for it.
have all your gas waypoints figured out too
have road pisgah section of blue ridge parkway, nc215, nc107, us276. great corner carver
takin it to the dragon next week. that is the ultimate test
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Very nice machine mate. I've been searching for one in Australia but they are a bit overpriced a reckon (12-13k aud)
@@onthebackwheel i paid $ 9100usd
@@michaelbuxton9611 that's a good deal
@@onthebackwheel yup. my connie is faster but a tad chunky.
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bet ya never seen a klr 692 motard.
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@@michaelbuxton9611 can't say I have, nice!
Over here just waiting to sell my hyper 950 when Aprilia or Ducati decide to throw their V4 engine in a supermoto esque frame.
Now that would be a fun machine! I think the Tuono is the closest we are going to get though
i wanted a shiver :(
Your headline harm us the owerers of those bikes . Now i can't sale it because of you !!!!
Never sell mate haha
Way too heavy!
They should have kept the 1200 dorso, the 900 was shithouse
The 1200 rocks. I expected a bigger power bump from the 900. Would love a new one with similar power but lighter
I love my DD900, but I do wish they still have the 1200, I can only imagine how good that 1200 would be with some of the updates that the 900s got.
We can dream bud Eric haha. I'd be interested to see what power people are getting out of the 900 with some mods. They are stupidly cheap in the US, not common at all back in Aus
@@onthebackwheel I was wondering about it too, I can't even find a decent write up about simple exhaust + tuning gains out there. If you know of any please share. I did many mods to the bike after I heard the 900 line would be dropped. Since there aren't going to be anymore aftermarket support. Really on the fence about getting an exhaust.
@@YiLuoRealEstate have you had a look at the AF1 aprilia forum? There's a bit of info on there
the problem with the Dorsoduro, is it looks shit, to a husqvarna 701, if your going to make a supermoto make it look like one, not some over styled ugly fat looking thing