if you dont want the red to bleed the best thing is put the white coat on let it dry really well , tape it up then do another thin coat of white over it, let it dry then do the red coats. This will 'seal' the tape edges and stop the bleeding - nice work
Cool bro, the VH striped guitars are fun to paint! I have done a Frankenstrat, the original B&W one and I also have the Bumblebee one. Just a friendly piece of advice for doing the stripes I learned from my own experience. On my first one I used "Frog Tape"masking tape and they all got those little bleed under edges like you got, no matter how well you burnish down the tape edges. Frog Tape is supposed to be the best masking tape for painting but I was really upset to see my edges were not clean. I am exceptionally picky when doing my paint jobs and ended up stripping off all of the paint and starting over - which REALLY SUCKED! I then tried using vinyl pin striping material you buy at automotive shops and it works AWESOME! You can bend it easier for curves and when you burnish it down, zero paint gets under the edges and when you peel it off, your lines are super crisp! I just wanted to pass this along, as it worked great on all my other guitars. I hope you all find this useful.
rickpd2005 thanks for that tip! I noticed ya always get bleed thru around the tape...why I hate using it for household painting... trim and other stuff. Thought about doing some striping on a guitar I'm working on now. If I do, I'll surely try it! Thanks again!
Karlo Klanac Good tip with the misting paint... you can also lay a barrier coat to seal the tape edges by shooting a light coat of the last color you sprayed before you taped off and letting it dry. If this coat bleeds, it matches the color of what was underneath it.
Paint stores sell good tape with the perfect widths for this stuff. I think it helps to go thin coats as well. That keeps bleeding to a minimum. Plus, it wears better.
Nice job I actually prefer the non super clean tape lines like Ed's original paint jobs. Bet it will look great once it's all dirtied up with hand gunk.
As a massive Van Halen fan, this was freaking awesome, dude. The 5150 is one of my favourite guitars Eddie used (alongside his Frankenstein and the Black & White one from the first VH album), and I gotta admit that I'm pretty impressed with how it turned out
I think you and your dad did a fantastic job on this and it looks great. I painted a Tele with the similar red paint and it's been fine! No chipping or flaking! I didn't want a factory clear coat look and it's holding up! Only one thing. Not trying to be critical, just trying to help. I have a lot of experience with solder. When you were installing the ground wire, I noticed you dabbing the pencil. You got it backwards. Hold the heat on and dab the solder, till you have enough. The only place you need to be careful of getting too much heat is on the pots. I hold the heat to the back of the pot and quickly dab a blob of solder, heating it just till it spreads out. Remove the heat. Tin your wires with a little solder. Then touch the wire to the solder already on the back of the pot. Heat till solder flows, maybe dabbing a little more solder. Don't heat for too long. I tin all my wires before attatching them to anything. Good luck and I hope this helps!👍😎🎸🎶
The BYO Lunatic version is vary nice as well... I recomend them if you plan on throwing in the nice expensive upgrades like i did? there worth that for the quality?
So I bought one of these but a cheap Chinese brand off eBay for $225. Out of the box it actually played good, neck was straight, intonation was right on. The only thing that needed to be done was the frets needed to be polished, when bending a string it felt like sandpaper lol but I just used polishing wheels on a dremel with polishing compound from a hardware store it was like a wax compound and the frets were mint afterwards didn’t take long at all. I then took the guitar apart to paint it. When putting it back together I installed a EVH tone pot because I love them. The tuners are crap but since it’s a locking Floyd I didn’t bother replacing them. I had to add a 4th spring for the bridge because 3 were not enough to play in standard tuning because of how the body is routed, you would need to route the body out more if you wanted to use less springs to play in standard tuning. The strap pegs are junk and use very small screws so for sure need some strap locks. It has a cheap Floyd rose but it actually works just fine I’ve used a bunch of cheap Floyd rose bridge’s sometimes they work great like this one and sometimes you just need to do some work to make them work good usually just need to file down rough spots and where the strings lock in the bridge then they work just fine but again this cheap Floyd needed nothing it works great, also don’t be an animal when tightening the bolts down they don’t need to be super super tight just snug so if they strip out don’t blame the manufacturer you over tighten them. The pickup actually sounds really good and doesn’t not squeal when playing loud I figured I would have to replace the pick up no way it would be good for that cheap of a guitar and I am the type of guy that replaces pickups in pretty much every guitar because I’m a tone chaser but I’m leaving this one for now. So bottom line the Chinese eBay Kramer is a great buy. If ur gonna play it at gigs I would replace the tuners, volume pot and strap locks then it’s definitely gig worthy. Because it’s a cheap Chinese guitar maybe they don’t put the same pickup in every guitar or maybe the quality is hit or miss so its possible you might want to change the pickup plus everyone has different taste but again I am all about tone and the pickup I got sounds great! If you go to guitar center to buy a new guitar this one is every bit as good as many new 500-1000 buck guitars. Oh last thing the Harmonics are super loud on this guitar, it’s just a loud guitar over all. If you don’t plug it in it’s super loud compared to almost anything I’ve ever played so the sustain is amazing!
wow .. very well done that looks fn awesome this is probably my #1 project i wanna do eddies kramer or frankie are my dream guitars and i feel like building it yourself not only brings you closer to the instrument itself but closer to eddie as thats what he did .. and plus 1500+ for a evh isnt crazy but that being said doing it yourself you can put whatever pickup add whatever u want
Hey man, great looking guitar. What type of finish was on the neck that you bought, and how did you paint the headstock if there was a finish? Also, how did you finish the neck if there wasn't one on it (if you did finish the neck yourself)?
Hey the neck came with a thin sealer on it. It's like a satin. It's an option from musikraft. It protects the neck and allows musikraft to warranty the neck when you buy it. As far as the paint, honestly, it went right on with no problem.
I just got my Kramer kit guitar but I don’t think I can do the standard evh colors I want to but I have a hard time playing somes guitar. I’m either gonna do black or some flashy 80’s colors! I’ve always wanted to do big metal flakes maybe orange like that super 70’s metal flake that was on the jet boats back then.
Hey thanks! I basically looked up “5150 stripe pattern” and printed it out. I then looked at the print-out and applied the tape as closely as possible.
Look man, that's a great job, I just finished mine , mine was BYO, didn't come with the KRAMER sticker or the reflective 5150 and 🌟 star's, do you have any pointers on where I can get them ? That's all I need to finish
Hi I'm new to ur channel and I play an epiphone les Paul and I was hoping to build a Frankenstein type guitar cuz I'm a huge fan of van Halen and I was wondering how much did thet things to make the 5150 cost if it has just one pickup and all but thanks for sharing this stay awesome or mainly how much was the body and components
Hi thanks for your interest in my video! The best bet would be to go to the Musikraft site and check out the current prices on a pacer body and kramer style neck. The price varies depending on wood, options etc. The floyd special is like $80 and the Duncan was like $70?
Nice job. My friend did this to a Squier strat 30 years ago, including a scarf jointed "banana" head stock. Then he saw the Dave Lee Roth Goin' Crazy video on MTV and tried to throw it around his neck like Steve Vai. Without strap locks it failed and stuck in the ground and broke the neck in half. His scarf joint was perfect.
How much did the whole project run you? Meaning how much did it cost for the guitar, paint, and decals? Also what type of paint did you use? Did you use any clear coats?
I would say it was around $700 for the total cost including the spray paint, decals, floyd special, pickup, Dtuna etc. The spray paint I used is in the video. I ended up not using a clear coat because the paint already has a finish built in and I kinda wanted a homemade feel and look. The original didn't have a clear coat.
How long do you wait to remove the tape? I made a frankenstrat build and I found pulling it off after a day made the paint lift up with it and it looked very jagged. What were your methods ?
I pull mine off roughly 1 hour after all coats of white or red were put on. The paint remains tacky so it won’t pull up, just pick off the tape not the paint
Rob L cool. I tried that too but then I found some skinny electrical tape that works great. I got 3/4, 1/4, 1/2 inch tape. If you’re making a Frankenstrat or another 5150, I would recommend using that.
Loved the video. I want to assemble a guitar too. I'd like to build an Ash, mahogany, or alder Wolfgang hardtail. And paint it Ferrari red. Does anyone make woldgang bodies? Can't find them. Warmouth had one but they discontinued it.
Jayden Valentine I chose not to clear so that it had a more homemade finish like the original. The paint is still like a hard candy shell no chipping away yet. If it does thats ok like the real one.
Lupin I'm not sure what the neck pocket measurements are on Squires. You should def contact Musikraft and ask them I'm sure they've had that question before.
I would say ALL IN the project cost me around $600 not including the DTuna and the pickup which I already had. I'm gonna do a video review of the guitar soon.
im just curious and dont mean to correct, question or criticize but why did you end up outside where there is wind bugs pollen debris of all sorts flying around when you had a nice enclosed paint room?
Scott Patterson that's a good question honestly I got tired of working in the confined space of the garage and even with a mask it got very misty so I took it outside. The paint actually came out ok no issues with pollen etc (just some running due to me inexperience)
Actually I'm not sure who makes bodies right now that are musikraft quality. If you are looking for a cheaper kit, BYOGUITAR has a decent budget kramer kit but again, not of musikraft quality.
Musikraft isn't a kit, they just sell replacement parts. Right now, they have stopped making bodies but that might be temporary. There are no instructions. If I were you I would consider a kit from BYOGUITAR.COM because they do come with instructions and might be easier for a beginner. They come with all the parts you need and you can upgrade the parts if you want.
Like I say in the beginning of the video, the body and neck are from Musikraft . The neck is very solid and the frets were finished perfectly. If you are looking to do any guitar project, I would seriously recommend using Musikraft parts.
Awsome vid man! You should cop the original trem stopper they came with too. I think Khaler made them for the floyd original. I got an original Baretta 86 with the Lady of Liberty paint job and the shark headstock. I wish the original jb pickup didnt age bad on me tho;/
Rob L awesome, thanks! Well the first problem i was having was drips in the paint, even if i did really really thin layers. The 2nd was my Tuners werent really fitting the headstock, and the 3rd was that i dont know how to set the neck, and put a nut on and stuff
D'sBalls I'm actually having trouble remembering now. I believe it was a full can of red and I think I had to go out and get one more and used 1/4-1/2 of that can too.
Well done. I loved doing mine, but I wished I would have gotten the wood from musicKraft like you did. Much more accurate. If someone is interested in building a 5150, just do it. Screw paying 1000s for one. It stays within the spirit of the actual one just being put together. It's rewarding to create something yourself and rock out to it also. But where did you get your volume knob? Mine is a little smaller than it should be.
Scott Willi I believe this was them m.ebay.com/itm/EVH-Fender-Wolfgang-Black-Control-Knob-W-Hex-Key-Fits-Bourns-SS-Pots-Brand-New/232660033570?epid=2167189995&hash=item362b9e6022:g:NdgAAOxyiOxR3NW4
I did one 18 years ago. There was virtually no where to get a neck with the Hockey stick headstock. I had warmoth attempt it but it was stubby and bad.
Your right. It was the neck that was impossible to get. Why the fuck Kramer never made them to the public is beyond me. Then, ESP makes the same exact one forward and revered for George Lynch......Well, I have one now and as I mentioned on top, mine is an exact...replica to eds as the measurements were taken from the original 5150 headstock!
Melonos hey glad you liked the video! It was fun to put it together and to make the video. It was a learning process and if I did another, I'd learn from my mistakes. I love how it sounds and plays. I'd have no problem gigging with this guitar.
Why do you put tooth picks and ear plugs in to fill the holes in headstock? Another question...why did you tape the guts inside the guitar off? Does the paint hurt the tone or something? Great build though!
Connor Johnson5150 hey thanks! As far as the toothpicks and earplugs, I didn't want paint in the holes to make it easier to install the tuners. I taped off the inside only because I thought I might keep them raw so that the paint didn't interfere with any installation of the floyd, pots etc. In the end I think it probably didn't matter.
Rob L oh ok, ya im just waiting on my body and neck from Musikraft and im ready to go. Any tips for the painting and striping? I saw your lines were great, how do you avoid the run marks and bleeds for a fine line stripe?
Connor Johnson5150 def use blue painters tape. You may need to use a good exacto knife to cut the thin pieces (1/8 etc). Don't use masking tape. I did have some minor running as a result. Again blue tape only.
DEVILHORNS22 On Twitch hey yeah I did sand it lightly before but failed to film that part haha but the spray paint was a gloss finish already plus I was going for a more "homeade" feel
Dude....great job!...and to everyone who is criticizing this guy remember that Eddie’s original guitar was put together by him using a $80 strat body and a $60 neck...and I bet some morons critiziced him too
if you dont want the red to bleed the best thing is put the white coat on let it dry really well , tape it up then do another thin coat of white over it, let it dry then do the red coats. This will 'seal' the tape edges and stop the bleeding - nice work
Hey thanks for the info I might so another one at some point I'll try that technique
This exactly! It's an old painter's trick I learned painting trim. That's IF you don't want the bleed. You'll get a nice crisp line.
100% you will have to put 300 coats of white paint before it is actually white depending on the paint type.
Genius!
When that paint starts to peel and flake, and it will, it will look even more authentic. Don't forget the cigarette burn. Nice job!
I have a kramer that was painted like the 5150 in the 80s, sanded it, ordered a evh humbucker to replace the emg in it. About to start the painting
Cool bro, the VH striped guitars are fun to paint! I have done a Frankenstrat, the original B&W one and I also have the Bumblebee one. Just a friendly piece of advice for doing the stripes I learned from my own experience. On my first one I used "Frog Tape"masking tape and they all got those little bleed under edges like you got, no matter how well you burnish down the tape edges. Frog Tape is supposed to be the best masking tape for painting but I was really upset to see my edges were not clean. I am exceptionally picky when doing my paint jobs and ended up stripping off all of the paint and starting over - which REALLY SUCKED! I then tried using vinyl pin striping material you buy at automotive shops and it works AWESOME! You can bend it easier for curves and when you burnish it down, zero paint gets under the edges and when you peel it off, your lines are super crisp!
I just wanted to pass this along, as it worked great on all my other guitars. I hope you all find this useful.
rickpd2005 thanks for that tip! I noticed ya always get bleed thru around the tape...why I hate using it for household painting... trim and other stuff. Thought about doing some striping on a guitar I'm working on now. If I do, I'll surely try it! Thanks again!
rickpd2005 you wont get much bleeding if you apply paint in thin mist layers
Karlo Klanac Good tip with the misting paint... you can also lay a barrier coat to seal the tape edges by shooting a light coat of the last color you sprayed before you taped off and letting it dry. If this coat bleeds, it matches the color of what was underneath it.
Paint stores sell good tape with the perfect widths for this stuff. I think it helps to go thin coats as well. That keeps bleeding to a minimum. Plus, it wears better.
I've had good results using Tamiya model masking tape when I did my Franky
Love that cold solder
Looks fantastic. Great job.
Nice job I actually prefer the non super clean tape lines like Ed's original paint jobs. Bet it will look great once it's all dirtied up with hand gunk.
As a massive Van Halen fan, this was freaking awesome, dude. The 5150 is one of my favourite guitars Eddie used (alongside his Frankenstein and the Black & White one from the first VH album), and I gotta admit that I'm pretty impressed with how it turned out
The frankenstrat and the black and white one are the same guitar....
Black and white guitar and frankenstrat are the same
Your pop's awsome! Good work, sir!
Super nice.
Makes me want one too.
I think you and your dad did a fantastic job on this and it looks great. I painted a Tele with the similar red paint and it's been fine! No chipping or flaking! I didn't want a factory clear coat look and it's holding up! Only one thing. Not trying to be critical, just trying to help. I have a lot of experience with solder. When you were installing the ground wire, I noticed you dabbing the pencil. You got it backwards. Hold the heat on and dab the solder, till you have enough. The only place you need to be careful of getting too much heat is on the pots. I hold the heat to the back of the pot and quickly dab a blob of solder, heating it just till it spreads out. Remove the heat. Tin your wires with a little solder. Then touch the wire to the solder already on the back of the pot. Heat till solder flows, maybe dabbing a little more solder. Don't heat for too long. I tin all my wires before attatching them to anything. Good luck and I hope this helps!👍😎🎸🎶
I'll def keep it in mind when I do the next project!
@@RobNY5150 👍😎
Man that looks Awesome!! Great job.
Jackson Reviews Animation thanks!!! It was fun to do I learned a lot for next time.
Rob L ] You done a great job, glad too see that you enjoyed yourself.
Hey thanks!
Very very cool!
Nice job Bro!
The BYO Lunatic version is vary nice as well... I recomend them if you plan on throwing in the nice expensive upgrades like i did? there worth that for the quality?
Very good, great job!!!!
Thanks!!
Absolutely awesome 😂👍
So I bought one of these but a cheap Chinese brand off eBay for $225. Out of the box it actually played good, neck was straight, intonation was right on. The only thing that needed to be done was the frets needed to be polished, when bending a string it felt like sandpaper lol but I just used polishing wheels on a dremel with polishing compound from a hardware store it was like a wax compound and the frets were mint afterwards didn’t take long at all. I then took the guitar apart to paint it. When putting it back together I installed a EVH tone pot because I love them. The tuners are crap but since it’s a locking Floyd I didn’t bother replacing them. I had to add a 4th spring for the bridge because 3 were not enough to play in standard tuning because of how the body is routed, you would need to route the body out more if you wanted to use less springs to play in standard tuning. The strap pegs are junk and use very small screws so for sure need some strap locks. It has a cheap Floyd rose but it actually works just fine I’ve used a bunch of cheap Floyd rose bridge’s sometimes they work great like this one and sometimes you just need to do some work to make them work good usually just need to file down rough spots and where the strings lock in the bridge then they work just fine but again this cheap Floyd needed nothing it works great, also don’t be an animal when tightening the bolts down they don’t need to be super super tight just snug so if they strip out don’t blame the manufacturer you over tighten them. The pickup actually sounds really good and doesn’t not squeal when playing loud I figured I would have to replace the pick up no way it would be good for that cheap of a guitar and I am the type of guy that replaces pickups in pretty much every guitar because I’m a tone chaser but I’m leaving this one for now. So bottom line the Chinese eBay Kramer is a great buy. If ur gonna play it at gigs I would replace the tuners, volume pot and strap locks then it’s definitely gig worthy. Because it’s a cheap Chinese guitar maybe they don’t put the same pickup in every guitar or maybe the quality is hit or miss so its possible you might want to change the pickup plus everyone has different taste but again I am all about tone and the pickup I got sounds great! If you go to guitar center to buy a new guitar this one is every bit as good as many new 500-1000 buck guitars. Oh last thing the Harmonics are super loud on this guitar, it’s just a loud guitar over all. If you don’t plug it in it’s super loud compared to almost anything I’ve ever played so the sustain is amazing!
Looking good .
Very cool.
Awesome!!!
Very cool 🤘
wow .. very well done that looks fn awesome this is probably my #1 project i wanna do eddies kramer or frankie are my dream guitars and i feel like building it yourself not only brings you closer to the instrument itself but closer to eddie as thats what he did .. and plus 1500+ for a evh isnt crazy but that being said doing it yourself you can put whatever pickup add whatever u want
Very nice, You did a great job bro.
Thanks!
Need wetsanding and clear coats matte finish
Hey man, great looking guitar. What type of finish was on the neck that you bought, and how did you paint the headstock if there was a finish? Also, how did you finish the neck if there wasn't one on it (if you did finish the neck yourself)?
Hey the neck came with a thin sealer on it. It's like a satin. It's an option from musikraft. It protects the neck and allows musikraft to warranty the neck when you buy it. As far as the paint, honestly, it went right on with no problem.
I just got my Kramer kit guitar but I don’t think I can do the standard evh colors I want to but I have a hard time playing somes guitar. I’m either gonna do black or some flashy 80’s colors! I’ve always wanted to do big metal flakes maybe orange like that super 70’s metal flake that was on the jet boats back then.
So awesome! Did you use a template for the tape width to make the stripes? Any tips on that?
Hey thanks! I basically looked up “5150 stripe pattern” and printed it out. I then looked at the print-out and applied the tape as closely as possible.
nice job.
Very nice!!🤟🤟
Did you clearcoat this guitar after all of the white red and black? and if you did how many cans or coats did you use?
just starting to do my own work on guitars after 30 years of playing. its even more satisfying imo.
Terminator X I would love to see any videos you make of a build
Good job
Nice job👍🤘
Christoph Christoph thanks!
Look man, that's a great job, I just finished mine , mine was BYO, didn't come with the KRAMER sticker or the reflective 5150 and 🌟 star's, do you have any pointers on where I can get them ? That's all I need to finish
Hey thanks! Both sets are available on ebay. The Kramer waterslide decal and the 5150 sticker.
Hi I'm new to ur channel and I play an epiphone les Paul and I was hoping to build a Frankenstein type guitar cuz I'm a huge fan of van Halen and I was wondering how much did thet things to make the 5150 cost if it has just one pickup and all but thanks for sharing this stay awesome or mainly how much was the body and components
Hi thanks for your interest in my video! The best bet would be to go to the Musikraft site and check out the current prices on a pacer body and kramer style neck. The price varies depending on wood, options etc. The floyd special is like $80 and the Duncan was like $70?
Nice
Nice job. My friend did this to a Squier strat 30 years ago, including a scarf jointed "banana" head stock. Then he saw the Dave Lee Roth Goin' Crazy video on MTV and tried to throw it around his neck like Steve Vai. Without strap locks it failed and stuck in the ground and broke the neck in half. His scarf joint was perfect.
smokinvalves haha I remember that video
How much did the whole project run you? Meaning how much did it cost for the guitar, paint, and decals? Also what type of paint did you use? Did you use any clear coats?
I would say it was around $700 for the total cost including the spray paint, decals, floyd special, pickup, Dtuna etc. The spray paint I used is in the video. I ended up not using a clear coat because the paint already has a finish built in and I kinda wanted a homemade feel and look. The original didn't have a clear coat.
Very nice 👍👍
108/5000
Hello Rob. I am stefan Republic of Moldova. How can I buy the Kramer 5150 replica kit and at what price. Thank you
How long do you wait to remove the tape? I made a frankenstrat build and I found pulling it off after a day made the paint lift up with it and it looked very jagged. What were your methods ?
I pull mine off roughly 1 hour after all coats of white or red were put on. The paint remains tacky so it won’t pull up, just pick off the tape not the paint
Thank you for sharing
Sweet
Muito bom 👍!
Great work. I did one in pumpkin orange
Shawn Pierce thanks! Btw I've seen your videos before awesome
Rob L koolness hoss
Hey. Great video. Where did you get the thin tape for the stripes? Did you just cut it on a paper cutter or something? Thanks
Thanks! I just took a blade and cut the standard sized tape it was a pain in the ass next time I'm gonna try to buy it!
Rob L cool. I tried that too but then I found some skinny electrical tape that works great. I got 3/4, 1/4, 1/2 inch tape. If you’re making a Frankenstrat or another 5150, I would recommend using that.
Were you happy with that shade of red? I've tested apple and strawberry from rustoleum but not the one you used.
Hey yeah this particular shade of red has a little orange in it I think and looks really close to the real one.
fantastic job! any reason why you went with a fr special versus an original??
Thanks! Only for budget reasons. Ive had specials in other guitars over the years and never had a problem.
Loved the video. I want to assemble a guitar too.
I'd like to build an Ash, mahogany, or alder Wolfgang hardtail. And paint it Ferrari red.
Does anyone make woldgang bodies? Can't find them. Warmouth had one but they discontinued it.
mjfan123085 hey thanks! This is the closest I know if but it's a floyd
www.byoguitar.com/Guitars/Electric-Guitar-Kit-Quilt-Top__BYO-Quilt-spc-Top.aspx
So you did not clear coat or polish? Is the paint still on the guitar?
Jayden Valentine I chose not to clear so that it had a more homemade finish like the original. The paint is still like a hard candy shell no chipping away yet. If it does thats ok like the real one.
What tuners did you buy, I've never purchased tuners before and it's driving me crazy!
I got them from Musikraft they are working out great!
Great job, dude! How much did you paid for all parts?
Thanks! I would say with all the parts (I already had some) around $650-$700.
If you need correct space tape let me know
excuse me, but where can you buy or order the neck of this guitar?
Looks like a fun build. Good work
nicolamontoro hey thanks! it was fun I'm considering doing another this spring.
Which Neck did you get? The website has 4 different "banana" headstocks... ALso I assume it is the "pacer" body? Thanks
High from my order form: Banana 1 PC Constructed Neck. It is a Kramer Pacer body.
When you bought it, did you select the "all holes" in the pre-drill section?
I think I only had to drill the volume hole.
Love the guitar!. But is the bass playing the same song? It doesnt really fit in there
Haha it's supposed to. This is probably a few weeks after I finally picked up bass after years of playing only guitar.
i want to do this someday
Beautiful job. How much did it cost you in total.
about $700
Would it possible for me to buy one of those Kramer necks and replace it with the one on my squire?
Lupin I'm not sure what the neck pocket measurements are on Squires. You should def contact Musikraft and ask them I'm sure they've had that question before.
how much money did this run you? Ive been looking into making a 5150 replica for a while and im wondering how much it would normally cost.
I would say ALL IN the project cost me around $600 not including the DTuna and the pickup which I already had. I'm gonna do a video review of the guitar soon.
im just curious and dont mean to correct, question or criticize but why did you end up outside where there is wind bugs pollen debris of all sorts flying around when you had a nice enclosed paint room?
Scott Patterson that's a good question honestly I got tired of working in the confined space of the garage and even with a mask it got very misty so I took it outside. The paint actually came out ok no issues with pollen etc (just some running due to me inexperience)
How long did you wait before pulling the tape off?
I think about 45 min - an hour? It was a while back I kinda forgot the details haha
how fun! great job! did you get the one piece neck, or 2 piece?
Thanks! It was a one piece rock maple neck
which body did you get from Musikraft? doesn't look like the Pacer body.
Pouaaaah! Mais c’est totalement râté!
awesome! What type of tape did you use?
hey I used 3M blue tape from home depot
Very cool, about to start on one myself. Can you share your source for the the Kramer sticker for the headstock?
I believe it was from eBay. Kramer waterslide decal.
@@RobNY5150 Found it. that was it, thanks.
What kit do you suggest for a 5150 build, because musikraft is not doing bodies anymore?
Actually I'm not sure who makes bodies right now that are musikraft quality. If you are looking for a cheaper kit, BYOGUITAR has a decent budget kramer kit but again, not of musikraft quality.
Killer guitar. I really want to do a Musikraft build. Do these come with instructions? How hard is it to do one of these?
Musikraft isn't a kit, they just sell replacement parts. Right now, they have stopped making bodies but that might be temporary. There are no instructions. If I were you I would consider a kit from BYOGUITAR.COM because they do come with instructions and might be easier for a beginner. They come with all the parts you need and you can upgrade the parts if you want.
@@RobNY5150 Thanks for the info, I will check them out!
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Did u think it would be hard..... I am thinking too?
Wow, nice job! I built a frankenstrat recently. I actually put a video on my channel if you’re interested. I really wanna build a 5150 next
Nice! Now you just have to play the hell out of it to wear it in!
DId you put sanding sealer on the heastock or just painted it?
In this case, I just sanded it and then painted it.
Where did you buy the neck from, does it feel solid?
Like I say in the beginning of the video, the body and neck are from Musikraft . The neck is very solid and the frets were finished perfectly. If you are looking to do any guitar project, I would seriously recommend using Musikraft parts.
Awsome vid man! You should cop the original trem stopper they came with too. I think Khaler made them for the floyd original. I got an original Baretta 86 with the Lady of Liberty paint job and the shark headstock. I wish the original jb pickup didnt age bad on me tho;/
Reese Philp hey thanks!
What kind of paint did you use
How long did you wait after painting the red before you remove the tape?
If I remember correctly about 24 hours. I recommend using ScotchBlue Sharp Lines Painter's Tape.
Eddie would be proud.
Love the fact you didn't show how you added the black stripes to the body, we all love a good riddle.
At 5:10 I show how I did the black stripe on the headstock. Unfortunately the video for the body didn’t come out but it’s the same process.
Cool! What are your body specs?
Thanks!
ORIENTATION: Right Handed
WOOD TYPE: Basswood 2 Piece
NECK POCKET SIZE: Angled for Floyd 2-3/16"
NECK PICKUP: None
MIDDLE PICKUP: None
BRIDGE PICKUP: Humbucker (oval shape - direct mount)
BRIDGE ROUT: Floyd Rose Trem Rout w/ Bushing Post Holes
CONTROL CAVITY: Pacer Style Rear Rout
JACK: 1/2" Side Mount
ARM CONTOUR: Standard Pacer Contour
TUMMY CONTOUR: Standard Pacer Contour
NECK MOUNTING HOLES: Standard Fender Spacing 1-1/2" x 2"
Adding the Floyd rose without routing that's cool
Wow. Looks awesome. Still have it? How much did you have in that? Killer job.
Hey thanks! I still have it in fact, it's one of my best playing guitars. I think if I had to guess (it's been a while) around $700 in.
Looks really cool! No cigarette burn mark at the headstock? Too painful to do it to that nice paint job! Lol☺
74dart man thanks! Yeah on this build I decided not to relic it. I did however relic my Frankenstrat build if you check that video out.
Rob L ok...will do!
Hello May I ask how much did this cost you thanks have a good day
Keith Vartanian about $650 all in
That looks great! How did you get a floyd into a strat trem routing??
will gibson hey thanks! I ordered the body with floyd rose routing (non floating) from musikraft.
Rob L ohh ok i see. Im trying to build my first guitar, and i want it to be an EVH replica, but im having alot of trouble with various things
will gibson I can try to answer your questions if it's something I know.
Rob L awesome, thanks! Well the first problem i was having was drips in the paint, even if i did really really thin layers. The 2nd was my Tuners werent really fitting the headstock, and the 3rd was that i dont know how to set the neck, and put a nut on and stuff
Went looking on musikraft yesterday and they have overhauled everything, they even sell frankie bodies with northern ash now.
how many coats of red did you do, and how long before you took the tape off?
D'sBalls I'm actually having trouble remembering now. I believe it was a full can of red and I think I had to go out and get one more and used 1/4-1/2 of that can too.
I waited about 20 minutes
Well done. I loved doing mine, but I wished I would have gotten the wood from musicKraft like you did. Much more accurate. If someone is interested in building a 5150, just do it. Screw paying 1000s for one. It stays within the spirit of the actual one just being put together. It's rewarding to create something yourself and rock out to it also. But where did you get your volume knob? Mine is a little smaller than it should be.
Scott Willi hey thanks! I got the knob on eBay. It fits the EVH low friction pot.
Rob L great! Do you remember the vendor.
Scott Willi I believe this was them
m.ebay.com/itm/EVH-Fender-Wolfgang-Black-Control-Knob-W-Hex-Key-Fits-Bourns-SS-Pots-Brand-New/232660033570?epid=2167189995&hash=item362b9e6022:g:NdgAAOxyiOxR3NW4
I did one 18 years ago. There was virtually no where to get a neck with the Hockey stick headstock. I had warmoth attempt it but it was stubby and bad.
Its pretty cool now because there are several custom shops that do these types of necks now.
Your right. It was the neck that was impossible to get. Why the fuck Kramer never made them to the public is beyond me. Then, ESP makes the same exact one forward and revered for George Lynch......Well, I have one now and as I mentioned on top, mine is an exact...replica to eds as the measurements were taken from the original 5150 headstock!
That was great to watch. You happy how it sounds?
Melonos hey glad you liked the video! It was fun to put it together and to make the video. It was a learning process and if I did another, I'd learn from my mistakes. I love how it sounds and plays. I'd have no problem gigging with this guitar.
Rob L thanks for replying. Great job once again.
So cool. Gr. Rob L. (aswell ;-))
Salur Rob. I am stefan Republic of Moldova. How can I buy the Kramer 5150 replica kit and at what price. Muktumesc
Stefan Pisica it's not a kit you can buy a separate body and neck.
www.musikraft.com
What spray paints did you use. I’m starting mine soon and I’m kind of lost with what shades to do.
Starting around 1:20 I show the spray paint I used. I had to look myself as it's been a while haha
Thanks! great job btw, i hope mine comes out as good as yours. RIP Eddie Van Halen
One more question, did you route out a floyd cavity under the bridge. Also, is the action good?
Why do you put tooth picks and ear plugs in to fill the holes in headstock? Another question...why did you tape the guts inside the guitar off? Does the paint hurt the tone or something? Great build though!
Connor Johnson5150 hey thanks! As far as the toothpicks and earplugs, I didn't want paint in the holes to make it easier to install the tuners. I taped off the inside only because I thought I might keep them raw so that the paint didn't interfere with any installation of the floyd, pots etc. In the end I think it probably didn't matter.
Rob L oh ok, ya im just waiting on my body and neck from Musikraft and im ready to go. Any tips for the painting and striping? I saw your lines were great, how do you avoid the run marks and bleeds for a fine line stripe?
Connor Johnson5150 def use blue painters tape. You may need to use a good exacto knife to cut the thin pieces (1/8 etc). Don't use masking tape. I did have some minor running as a result. Again blue tape only.
Connor Johnson5150 also, let it dry well before peeling.
Rob L ok thanks rob
No sanding or gloss coat?
DEVILHORNS22 On Twitch hey yeah I did sand it lightly before but failed to film that part haha but the spray paint was a gloss finish already plus I was going for a more "homeade" feel
There was no sanding or clear on the original. :-)
That’s awesome. What did it end up costing you.
Hell no!!!..not if you want a true replica
danwilhite, there was sanding
Dude....great job!...and to everyone who is criticizing this guy remember that Eddie’s original guitar was put together by him using a $80 strat body and a $60 neck...and I bet some morons critiziced him too
Noel Perez hey thanks! This was my first attempt I looked at tons of videos and read forums to do this.
How much expensive is Kramer body guitar with the neck
I believe the neck and body were around $500. The entire project ran me around $650-$700.