Akai Pro AMX & AFX review
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- I tested the Akai Pro AMX and AFX controllers for Serato DJ. The AMX is the real controller that activates Serato DJ and the AFX adds extra functionality. Check out all the features as I go through all the pro's and cons.
01:47 AMX
11:33 AFX
I want to thank Tone Control for letting me use the AMX and AFX for this review. For more info about Tone Control and all their equipment check out www.tonecontrol.eu
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+djtlm in the AMX review you said there was no way to nudge/pitch-bend on the AMX but you can nudge/pitch-bend he same way you move the track back and forth to set que points. While the track is playing hold down the search button for the playing deck you want to adjust and turn the Browse knob clockwise or counter clockwise to nudge the track ahead or pull it back. Just an FYI for anyone interested.
hey man i love that you do a real review. lots of "reviews" and just overviews of the equipment with no opinions or gripes about the thing.
I own both these units and the main reason I believe the cross fader 'feels' so bad is not because of the cut-in distance but rather that it's not affecting the audio directly. The AMX is a software controller so therefore you get the latency inherent with the 'cuts' being processed by Serato's internal software mixer. I've had the innofader removed and even followed the steps on the innofader website to manually adjust the cut in distance using the Micro-switch on the back of the innofader. This makes no difference. It's still 'laggy' to react. Native Instruments managed to get it right with the Z2. Shame Akai didn't with Serato. Great review, keep up the good work.
+Tim Pell That's a possibility too. I've had better results scratching with the DDJ-SB and the Numark Mixtrack Pro2 and those faders were nowhere near as good as the innofader so you could be right and then it's not the innofader that is at fault.
On the AFX, if you select deck 1/2 and you are in the sp6 mode, you can control the volume with the big knob in the middle!
Ah, I didn't check that. Thanks!
very good review... this is probably the best setup for the money tbh
The AMX and AFX is worth the purchase. I only use this for very small events but it lived up to what I needed it for!!! Using the SP1 instead of the AFX. Never thought of it!!! Might have to look into that. Great review!!!
You did a great review as always. Good job TLM! I got the AMX a month ago in order to use my old Technics sl1210 in DVS mode with Serato DJ and I'm pretty happy with that because I can do my mixes and my scratches and it's a lot of fun. As far as the mini Innofader , even if I'm not a pro scratch Dj, I can say that I have better feelings with the crossfader of my DDJ SB so I totally agree with you. I raccomend this unit to people like me who want a good quality usb mixer to use DVS with Serato and stay on a budget. I can't wait to use my new set up in the next SSS5! I hope you will do a tutorial on the Serato Flip soon, I need that. Thank you and Happy New Year!
Can be used as a serato AI, connect one side of the output to the input of a bigger mixer and the headphone line using the Jackpin to rca cable to the other input of the bigger mixer and adjust the sound from the AMX
not only a review.. this is also a tutorial.. nice video TLM
+freelife productions Thanks
What's up TLM and everyone out there. DJ Mocheese from Killeen, Tx here. The only sure fix for the crossfader lag issue is to calibrate the mini innofader. Check the Innofader website for the procedure. Happy DJing everyone.
Thanks for this info. I finally decided to get another controller for FX. My current controller had buttons that miss hit, which caused too many errors. It was also very easy to understand you. Some other vids had guys with very thick accents!!
I'm using the AMX for half a year now and I really have to say that I like it. Sure the height is a little difficulty but you get used to the fact that it is lower than your turntables.
Talking about the Crossfader I haven't had any issues with it except that it will reopen shortly sometimes if you put a little too much pressure on it to one side. Concerning the scratches I have no problems with it but I'm new to scratching so my scratches are not yet that good anyway and I have no real comparison...
But as @djTLM said you will need an extra controller if you want to mix with the AMX properly (unless you want to use your keyboard for that). I'm using a Novation Launchpad S which I have mapped to control the import things like cue points and loops and with that I'm good to go
I have the AMX and it's feels like the my scratches lag. But from the videos i've seen there seem to be no issues. I also have ddj sr, and scratching sounds on point. I've seen the AMX used a soundcard for a dj tech mixer. enjoy the videos keep them coming.
it also works with Traktor and Rekordbox...at least I managed to work it...bought this 2nd hand in 2021...and still no portable mixer comes close !!! its great portable and can fit easily in a bag...wish it was not plastic but more sturdy metal...
DJ TLM on point all the time
Thanks bro!
Hi DJTLM,
On 5m30s, you are completely right that doing the loop roll with touch activated, is very hard NOT to touch the bass kill - since everything is so small.
Also agreed that out-of-the-box, the AMX really needs the AFX for a lot of missing functionality, namely hot cues, loops, etc.
However I really really like the ultra-portability of a single unit to play in Planes, Hotel, by the pool, etc.
This is why I bought the AMX on purpose just to use this “All-in-one” Traktor mapping: 4x decks, 6x hot cues, Loops, 5x insta-FX pages, “super cross fader”.
Also, my own upcoming extension adds Beatjump, Loop roll, Selectable FX control, Zoom + Layout changes, Library adv browsing.
maps.djtechtools.com/mappings/4397
keep up the great work!
+Pedro Estrela it is super portable! I still need to get one.
Btw, thanks for the support man. I appreciate it!
Also you have the option on the AMX to select different cross fader settings in the serato menu.
May that will help you with you scratch settings.
I tried both, but that did not help.
I enjoyed your review but i was a little disappointed you didn't include some footage using the DVS with your turntables. I agree with your opinion on switching back and forth between decks 1/3 & 2/4. I've always had dedicated control between right and left deck so I picked up the Akai AMX & 2x AFX. Works great and buying two AFX cost just slightly more than the Pioneer DDJ-SP1 you suggested with the upside of having some additional great features that come with the AFX. I like the digital display showing the parameters for the loop and fx. Touch-activated fx are are handy and a sold feature at any price point. I really wish they worked in a way to shuffle between sample banks so I could keep my hands off the laptop (Slightly annoying). I've also been using the two AFX controllers at the clubs I spin at to give the gear they provide on sight more of a controller type functionality and again keep my hands of the laptop. luv what your doing for the DJ community with your channel. Bless
+Dj R-Les I had some turntable footage, but it was lost. But in all honesty, it didn't add any extra info. You just saw me control the music with the turntables like with any dvs.
Did you have any issues with the crossfader?
No cross fader issues for me so far but I'm not nearly as advanced as you are in scratching. In all honesty I'm still learning and/or trying to perfect some of the advanced technical scratches so I may not even realize that it's not doing what it's supposed to. If it's not working right I've probable just been blaming myself. I have the DDJ-SX, NS7II and 1200's w/the AMX/AFX set up. It all seems pretty much the same to me. On another note, I'd like to see a Audio-Technica AT-LP120 review. I'm curious how they compare to other proven turntables and clearly you have the skill and experience to make a valid assessment. Please do a review of you can get your hands on them. Thanks and keep doing what your doing. Much appreciated
Get video, has all the information I was looking for! The only thing stopping me from buying the AMX is that you said you had trouble scratching with it. I am currently looking for an inexpensive way to learn to scratch on vinyl.
10:00 btw, if you're a right handed scratcher, the fader has a bug in it where your cuts won't be as crisp :( I forgot about that. I scratch with both but my right hand is my stronger hand... It sucks that AKAI won't address this 2 year old problem
Ok, I had not heard about that before. Let's hope they fix it
djTLMtv alot of people complained about in the official serato video using this mixer .the DJ cutting with his right hand and scratching with his left to avoid that issue.
Are you saying that if we cut on the crossfader on the right hand, there will be no issue that youre talking about?
Muhamad Naufal Hernowo yes it will work perfectly
I have this setup and it's only good for mixing. When I used to do heavy scratching it would switch to hamster (and when I was in hamster it would switch to normal). I used to get a lot of audio drop outs as well. I've posted a lot in the Serato forum concerning this unit so I gave up on it a long time ago and switched to the Rane 62. Going to sell the AMX but keep the AFX.
I'm from Chicago I am interested if you do want to sell your AMX
P. S. Many thanks for all your hard work sharing the knowledge!
+12spike thanks
The Best Tutorial arround the web, complete congrats
small correction: it is possible to give the track a little nudge with just the AMX with the search+gain option. it's not much, but it is a nudge
Nice video, I've been looking for a compact controller this could be the one.
I'm really looking forward to the Serato Flip vid. I bought the full suite one NYE for half price and I'm loving Flip so far, though I don't know how to fully utilise it.
Have a happy new year, TLM!
BTW I want to start using things like novation pads, drum machines etc. But I have no idea where to begin.
A DJ Buddy buyed the AMX and we did a scratch session. I also noticed that i have big problems scratching with the AMX. But its a simple physical reason. It's all about the size of this Controler.
Me ( and u to ) are mixing mainly on mixer with a bigger size and weight. The AMX is very small and light in comparison to other Controllers and Mixers. This caused a few Problems.
First of all, u need to set something under the AMX to get it higher. You got the perfect high? Yeah but it still have some space between the Controller and the Turntable. So what happens while you scratching? The Mixer is moving a bit to the left and right wile the fader movements.
Lets pretend you got the perfect high and you can gap this space btw the controller and Turntable ( I found out that the Ortofon Case fits perfectly for that ). There is still a problem. The Controller can still Moving Upwards between the Turntables. On your scratching style ( I'm speaking to you DJ TLM ) it might happen, that u can Pop the AMX out completely btw the Turntables.
The Way i scratch is, to lay Down the Fader Hand on the Mixer and work with my Fingers. So there is also missing space on the Controler for me ( and maybe other DJ's to ) to scratch smoothly.
I Just wanted to give an answer for you, why you have some problems scratching with this controller. I might be wrong on your case, but that's what i noticed for Myself.
Thank you DJ TLM to do so much videos helping all of us DJ ( regardless newcomer or advanced DJ's ). I enjoy every single of your video even if it's helpfull for me or not. It's just because sometimes i see myself on the same situation :)
+xXaznStrikerXx You could be right. I will try and get my hands on one again to test that theory
Nice video/review. Thanks for sharing. Hey, when it comes to your DJM900SRT sure it may not be labelled as a HiP-Hop scratch mixer but since pioneer designed it for Serato they did put a great scratch fader in the mixer. It will even take up to 10million cuts/crabs/flares etc etc before the fader starts to crap out on you. It's not an INNO fader & I forget what they call it but it's an incredible scratch fader. I'm sure that's the reason you don't have any problems cutting on it. Lol.
+Tony Draper Yeah, the fader on the 900SRT is nice, but it's still nowhere near as sharp as my DJM909 or my PMC05PRO4 or my DJM-S9. But the SRT's fader is a lot more suitable for scratching than the fader in the normal 900
+djTLMtv
Oh yea.I totally agree.To this day I feel that my 909 has the best fader feel I've ever used & it's the reason I'll never get rid of it.Also the bumpers on the S9 are what make that fader feel so dope to me(no clicking).I love the S9 & so glad I finally got my hands on one.It's funny though cause when your a scratch Dj/turntablist or whatever you wanna call us we can always get down no matter what kind of fader we are on as long as the fader is decent.Thing is they all feel a bit different & we always need to adjust to the fader no matter what.I can be on my STR & move over to my S9/909 & I always need to adjust.I may need to speed my fader hand up or down to get the same results, especially when it comes to flares.Hey man I heard the S9 & SRT faders are the same,minus the bumpers on the SRT.This could be 100% false but I'm gonna look into it &see if that's really true.Keep up the good work bro.I always enjoy your videos & love the fact you are helping the younger generation.
I have a design for the AMX Stand the i have made. It sits high enough to use with travel cases. It also fits my SP1.
The scratching is probably off on the mixer or doesn't feel the same because you might want to realign the threshold from the settings all the way to 72 dB it works perfect for me when I did that.
I use dicers for my hot cues and loop rolls and the afx pads for samples
TLM - Brainpower!
Paul! 😁
I own both these units, and I've seen in other videos that they are paired up with a set of Numark NDX 500's. I'd love to see a video of how you feel about that as a reasonably priced Serato set up
great tutorial and as always good information to have bro.
Useful video, sir. They are small and reliable items for home or a party. In my opinion I would stick with Pioneer Ddj sx2 for Dj performance.
Oh I see now Inno Fadder like this Fadder super smooth
good video ,but the akai amx really messed up my gig yesterday,after using it in a club and the sound output was real crappy before i could change to sl1 the manager had to tell me to leave ,he had to play all night through because he was a dj himself,am so disappointed i just lost my one chance in that club as it was my first time playing there
Good Review, solid points
Amazing video as always can you talk about Serato flip and I guess other expansion packs for Serato? Do you think there necessary? Pros and cons? When djaying how often do you use the effects? Another question do you know if there is any issue if you have Traktor as well as Serato on the same laptop? And sorry final questions can you use any like launch pads with Serato? Is it possible to hook up the maschine studio with Serato? What are your thoughts about maschine studio/Maschine. (I know there are TH-cam tutorials out there that show people using the maschine but if possible can you have a side series of working with maschine). Thank you for taking the time to read this. I've been following your channel for some years now and with your help I've been improving. Have a blessed year and I look forward to seeing your content. (one last thing I appreciate seeing you reply to me in the comment sections that's a rare thing to see one time you replied to my comment I felt like a super star haha) but stay blessed.- Dr. Griffs
Did you have any dropouts during your review of the mixer? I constantly see your comp working overtime and your USB red/yellow LED keeps flashing
hello, sorry texting on an old video, but i see your point. I do use amp and have master volume dropouts and random cross fader reverse. I think this is some kind of a glitch, but did you have an issue like this?
We need some new videos where you at
I’ve been live streaming on this channel 2 x per week for the last 5 months, I’ve dropped 5 Saturday Sessions this year, and a couple of other things. I’ve been right here ;)
@@djTLMtv can you let us know in your professional opinion between the reloop mixtour Vs kontrol X1 which one we know both of them is amazing but we can't choose which one
I’ve never used the X1 so I can’t really speak on it. And I think the Z1 is closer to the Mixtour because it has faders (and the Z1 doesn’t).
I guess a better question would be which software do you prefer? Trakor or Algoriddim DJay?
@@djTLMtv Thank you, Fam. The mixtour map Trakor and virtual DJ they say we dig it what you said about the faders So if we compare it to the Z1 which one is better family.
Do you think you could make a video of you Going through a basic set you would do live. And walking through how and what you did. I'm a beginner DJ and I just know the basic stuff. But when I find myself watching videos on TH-cam of people's mixes I constantly and asking how they did that, or what they just did right there. Sometimes I can figure it out, but I'm thinking the only way to find this out is maybe a one on one session with a DJ. But I can't seem to find anyone at the moment. Maybe I need to do your skype lessons you were talking about. But maybe even a video of you walking through your lives sets would be helpful. Just a thought hope it made sense... Thanks!
it's interesting that during certain actions (e.g. @ 4:45 during the touch-capacitive eq kills), SDJ is displaying continuous usb dropouts (watch the right hand corner of the SDJ screen). I'm having similar issues on various setups (SL2, Pioneer S9, Akai AMX), even though I'm on a Core i5 with 12 GB ram and SSD. I don't have this in SSL. I really want to like SDJ, but because of this unexplainable issues, SSL is still my primary choice.
Ok there is just one thing missing from this video. Maybe because the video ran as long as it did but we need to see a five minute Quick Mix and a little commentary about what went right and what didn't using this mixer/effex unit combo
+Herfmonster I cut it down from 43 minutes because that was just way too long! :)
I actually shot a couple of minutes of mix and scratch footage with the turntable set, but somehow that file was not in the import folder. I found out during the edit when I had already returned the units :(
+djTLMtv AWWW Dang
Good work on the video! About playing 2 cue points for decks 1 & 2simultaneously, can you play one on the AFX and one on the keyboard on your laptop at the same time? (Shift+#)? This can help save money from buying another AFX unit.
+DJ MoJoe You could do that, but I would still prefer using an SP1
I asked Serato about the lagginess of the fader and they said it should have been fixed in version 1.8.1.
+Pirkka Huhtala Well I'm a newbie in scratching but I think it works a lot better in version 1.8.1!
Fine Video Review, thanks!
Man the gain is a dealbreaker for me
Great video bro..
+ClectaSkiMusic thanks
I have both units, but I also have issues with the fader... 4 me is just the shape of the padel... Just a bit of getting used to I feel... + the hamster switch is easily flicked esp when trying to juggle! lol. The other thing 4 me is that it's USB powered... I'm not sure, but I think that might have some performance issues as none of my laptops can run Serato DJ well with it plugged in atm! (they are not that powerful, but have no trouble running scratchlive with my rane 57)
How do you feel about the new controllers that are coming out with the screens? Also Numark has the Numark dashboard that can be used with any serato set up. I'm thinking about getting it. Have you had a chance to check it out yet?
I got 1 amx and 2 afx for 315$ bundle deal brand new. but I know what you mean bc when you made this it was 249$amx and 199 for afx.
ive been using this since very 1st day they came out..and yes i had same problem with fader so i keep it basic. you can check my vids and see
This was very helpful! But I'd like your advice...
I’m a novice DJ-I work with 2 technics and a basic mixer with no pads, so all of my cues/loops/hot keys/sp6/effects are done through my computer and/or mouse. I’ve been agonizing between the Neon Reloop and the AKAI AFX, but I truly can’t decide which would be better for me. All I keep hearing and seeing about each one is they do basically the same things but “this one is so much better in this area than the other”.
I’m only going to buy one for now (I realize some DJs use both in their setup), so any advice/guidance regarding which I should get immediately would be more than helpful…
Hey DJ TLM, I am just starting in the sense that I will be able to buy gear soon. I have been practicing on friends' controllers for house parties; at home, I mapped Virtual DJ functions to keys on my computer keyboard, and it actually works well enough that I have recorded professional sounding mixes. I'm looking to buy the AMX and the DDJ-SP1 as a combo to start working with Serato for a semi-professional modular setup. What's your opinion on that particular combo? It seems like I'd have all the functions needed to perform, apart from pitch control. Sync would have to be my friend until I could work up more cash for something else.
Ive had same issues plus a few more with my AMX bro. It definitely seems to miss clicks in hamster scratch and transforming I've found.. Sometime's the fader bleeds into the other channel, its like the hamster is on but only one side. Ive just started trying out at a few gigs and just last weekend the master volume dropped by half for no reason and only corrected when i slightly touched the volume control. Same thing happened a couple of times in the headphones and with headphone volume knob.
Toss in a lightening cable and the ability to charge the ipad and I'd be all over using the AMX with djay 2 and/or DJ Player.
hi there!! nice job !! just recently discovered your channel = ) = )
i just bought the AFX, do you know a way to scroll through the waveform song, but really precesily??
I can't find the way to do it....
I mean, the typycal spot, you have your cue point outside the begginning of your wavefor, and you would normally adjust it with your mouse to the beginning....
is that posible to move through small portions precesily with this AFX???
thanks again, for your help and all your work!!
I already have Serato DJ installed on my PC. Now do I have to buy the expansion pack in order to use my AMX, eventhoug I have Serato Dj installed? Im confused over here, and having problems. Can you help me out?
@djTLMtv I am having trouble setting up my DVS, I have 2 pioneer cdj800mk1's, and the akai amx, can you show us how to set it up with cdj's and vinyls? or do you have any troubleshooting tips?
If you get the Akai AMX and some Serato controls (vinyl), do you really need to buy the DVS Expansion pack? Because I brought my laptop over to a friend's once, they had a Serato Mixer (Mixars Duo), I plugged the USB into my computer, and it didn't say I needed to purchase the DVS expansion pack... I just had to download the right drive in order for the mixer to be connected to my laptop correctly.
The AMX is seen a a controller and dvs is an extra feature. The mixars duo is a serato mixer. So the mixars is meant for dvs and will work out of the box.
At least, that’s what I think.
And yes, with the AMX you will need that expansion to make dvs work
Hi! Sorry for commenting on video from 4 years ago, but I'm having issue with this product. It happens to have random master volume drop out, and random crossfader reverse. Do you know any solutions? I sent it to the company, but they gave me back saying there isn't any problem.
Sorry for the late reply. I have no idea what the problem could be. Drop outs could have something to do with your computer and the buffer size in the software, but random reverse on the crossfader is weird indeed
I have been thinking about getting this as something i can take say on a plan and i guess to "scratch rudiments." and to maybe do some small parties when I travel. In your own opinion do you think this does a good enough job or would i be better off using something like a SB or something similar. to buy this and the AFX would be around the price of buy an SR but I do want to keep my backpack with just my computer and a controler. (i usualy fill it with nik naks when i go on holiday.
I want to get the AMX to use with a pair of pioneer cdjs mk1, would I be able to connect them to those cdjs ? Please let me know before I get it please
Can you adjust the pitch in REL and ABS modes. Shift and gain only works in INT mode. if so.. How?
Did you try the crossfader with the record in thru mode? I wonder if that would have made any difference to see where the delay could have been. I also found I had to decrease my usb latency down as much as possible to crisp up the response, but what specs are your mac? I have a PC intel i7 with 8 gigs of RAM.
+12spike No, I didn't try thru mode (good idea). The latency shouldn't be a problem. It works fine with my 900SRT. But maybe the fact that the AMX is usb powered somehow causes more latency, even though I haven't had that problem with any other controller (SB, SR, NV, NS7II, etc)
on my crossfader on the Amx its set to sharp. but I still get a leak from deck 1 when trying to scratch from deck 2. I openend the mini fader and cleaned up any dust. anyone having the same problem
Is the Search + Browse when the track playing pitch bend?
DJ TLM, it would've been smarter to make a full blown mixer. Don't you think so?
Would you recommend the amx to use with turntables as timecode or should I buy the traktor scratch a6 and a mixer?
where can i get the beats? What is the best website?
Hi TLM, can you tell me how to get the feedback of the effect after declining of fader? thanks.
Quick question: I caught some Reloop 8000s on the cheap, will they match up well with the AMX and I can skip on the AFX? I'm just really mixing stuff and not doing a lot of scratching.
Would I need a soundcard like the Denson S1 for this to work or will the AMX rub without one using vinyl?
When I was using traktor, I had a case for my traktor control x1 that gave it some height to the mixer. Maybe that could work with these units. They look about the same size. Also I have an NS7 could the AFX possibly work with it?
+Michael Daugherty Yes, it should work with the NS7
+djTLMtv I checked out the AMX and decided on the Reloop Neon because the pads are a lot bigger than on the AMX and it works great with my NS7.
Did you get the fader sorted?
What about the effects? Can I use Serato DJ effects in thru mode while i play vinyl?
I found the answer by my own. For everyone who's wondering - yes, you can use serato dj effects while you play real records.
Could you plug 2 AMXs into one computer and use 4 channels?
Sahto yes you can use two at same time
did u ever a make a vid on flip
hey TLM,,,,, just asking if this unit have a post fader effect? tnx
+RemiXtation Production Yes.
+djTLMtv salute to you sir,,,, how about saturday session with this bad boy? please :)
what version of serato was that, I noticed that the waveform changed depending on how u manipulated the eq knobs. im using 1.8 and I havent noticed that
+Ricoposse I'm also using 1.8
+djTLMtv thanks for the reply turns out it was a setting called color eq waveforms that i didnt have enabled, keep making videos I love em and theyre really helpful, greetings and big up from jamaica!!!
can you still select songs off of your labtop? or do you have to use that knob?
Jon Mathews you can select from mixer or laptop
Made these two stands today for the AMX and AFX. When used with the Decksaver covers and some stategicly placed foam it will make for very secure transport. www.dropbox.com/s/xlj1xw0morzgi8a/2016-08-09%2011.34.34.jpg?dl=0 Wil laser engrave them tomorrow with Serato logo and my own.
question can you increase the pitch from 8-16 and 50 percent on the amx or afx
+Dj Richie I didn't see it on the units so you would have to do that in the software
+djTLMtv Great Tutorial! I cant wait to watch all of your videos! Do you think this will work for mixing audio tracks in Adobe Audition for film projects? if not what do you recommend? Any certain numbers of mixers I should consider?
what kit i need for the mixer for 100$ ?
how's the Fadder man?
Traktor is cheaper. I use a unofficial analog mixer with a built in 4-channel sound card an it works on Traktor. I bought the mixer for 100 euro's, the vinyls for 30 euro's and traktor is 100 euro's
Yes, I should have said cheapest dvs solution for Serato
Try this to re-calibrate the fader. www.akaipro.com/kb/article/1813
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Does the AMX work on ipads
I don't think so
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After 8 years I am watching this video. I think this is a good piece of equipment but looks like Akai stop making these
I love the video. Just not a fan of this setup...
how on earth do i setup akai amx to play normal record. thank you for help
Don't like thoose things, looks like toys