It really does, I grew up in the Fifties, just ten miles North of "du la de `triot", and have always been fascinated with the history of the whole area, into the geology of the Western Upper Peninsula!
Other than the pronunciation of "Pottawattomee" (POTT-ah-WOTT-ah-mee) this was a good introduction to Detroit. Being born and living my entire life in Detroit, I'm pleased to see this interest in my city.
Troit in French means narrow. Detroit literally mean The Narrow. It was the named either because the Detroit River was narrow or late Erie narrowed into a river there.
The railway you mention @ 12:50 is known as the Dequindre cut and ran directly from the water front through eastern market and in to the industrial heart of the cities east side. Remnants of it remain today as a greenway bike/pedestrian path.... Imagine the high line in NY, only recessed below street level instead of being elevated.
Thank you i have some 1879 plat maps and some of the farmers are letting me hunt the fields and I am finding musket balls I think I found one 3 Ringer that has been fired I don't know if you're from Michigan but if you wanna go out and hunt get ahold of me will definitely do that they are about ready to start cutting the fields down so it's a good time to go I also have found a button from a Civil War uniform
I would love to hunt sometime, I'm over in the Boston area though. I can certainly for the time being look at some maps to help you find possible artifacts and I might even make a video about what you find. Def can do that if you would like to work together!
You pan around way too fast for anyone to have a clear look at. Literally had to go by what you said because I couldn't fix my eye on anything for more than a thousandth of a second.
I'll have to look into that! I'm going to do another video soon and michigan reddit has been good to me recently so I will def have to see if I can dig up a map on that area! Thanks for watching!
The city limits in 1895 included Downtown, and, perhaps, Midtown. But...the city limit itself began to dramatically expand, as Detroit swallowed up other municipalities, farmland, etc. My question is: if you look at the present city limits; from eight mile to the river, from Telegraph to Chalmers...how much of that had any settlement at the turn of the Century??
Hi, Gratiot is pronounced "GRA-shit-- (like 'yeah' but with a 'gr' instead of 'y' in front). also, you may want to know these pronunciations: Livernois = LIV-er-noise, Cadiux = CAD-joo, Dequindre = de-KWIN-der, -- love your video!!!
Fun video. Laughing with all the people upset by your pronunciation of Gratiot. From Wikipedia: Charles Chouteau Gratiot (August 29, 1786 - May 18, 1855) was born in St. Louis, Spanish Upper Louisiana Territory, now the present-day State of Missouri. Fort Gratiot, Michigan, was named after Gratiot, who oversaw its reconstruction in 1814 to guard the mouth of the St. Clair River at Lake Huron. Gratiot Avenue in Detroit was one of the original avenues laid out by Judge Augustus Woodward after the Detroit fire in 1805. It was later used as a supply road for Fort Gratiot in Port Huron under authorization from the US Congress in the 1820s. type "pronounce gratiot" in the google search bar to hear it's common pronunciation As we say in Detroit. Come back... we missed you the first time. 😊
It sounded like you said (at about 11:28) "distance across river, 2 mile, 3 mile." This is not distance across the river, however it is distance from Detroit City Hall building. The Detroit River at, down town area is a little less than 1 mile wide. I love this video, and I love maps too.
A short story by: Antony H. Davidson-Black The Sociopaths Of Maple GroveOn the edge of town where city limits meet, as close to desolate as metropolitan areas get. sit ordinary somewhat quaint appearing row dormitories, though appearences aren't always as they seem. This portion of land started as acreage for a school house, years later the older half of.. a cematary. If being built on hollowed ground wasn't enough to create havoc and restlessness among forces beyond living comprehension, down the road was a Native battlefield. What needs to be understood and taken heed by the Benevolent is that blood that deep leaves a stain so egregious that if not stymied, can play host to the wicked and bizarre. This instance unfortunately attracted the most unclean sorts. The type of THINGS that are spawned from other things when those entities crawl back up from untimely horrid deaths bared as crosses on the wicked. which slowly is becoming The residences of Maple Grove Townhouses's undoing. Faces that appear compassionate and sympathizing but with just a slight shadow of a hint that is shiveringly unsettling!. But take slight comfort in knowing, these well hid beasts are mere shells of people having turned away from the light they are timid and reluctant to face the outside therefor they often recoil back into their dwellings startled by the outside world. To see the blood chilling method of a blinding & callous system of death so wickedly ingenious carried out hand in hand by the residents, leads one to conclude it must have been touched by the hand of Lucifer himself, though incorrect, Maple Grove Townhouses will introduce a level of depravity that will surely burn until it consumes itself. A dizzying game of fetch and hide and go seek that pinpoints murders several miles from it's location on the map effectively insulating itself. A dark Anti-fairy tale???? what if I were to tell you astonishingly that it's origins had validity! That guests of such a inhumane place are spun 'til logic is hard to envision, and randomly fed to depraved lunatics at a wim on this blood soaked consecrated ground. This is where average citizens who slip thru the cracks, are sent to DIE!! Where Livonia artists families are slaughtered, the youngest being toddlers! On grounds of what started in the early 1800's in Nankin Michigan as Perrinsville school house. An institution among meny established to better society, Now sadly turned into Godlessness and blight, a murder machine!
When I was 7 my uncle was murdered here in Detroit and my other uncles friend from work committed suicide in the Detroit river. This place is absolutely fucked I've been sick mentally and spiritually in torment my whole life suicidal violent and constantly in conflict. And I am aware of the evil always been but by you shedding light to it helps every bit
Not a very interesting presentation. Timeline info is off. Those 'measurements of distance' are NOT the amount of miles from shore to shore across the Detroit River. They represent the distance from City Hall. And mispronunciation of very well-known major Detroit street names (such as 'Gratiot') gives away the fact that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and isn't from the Detroit area. And probably has never even been here. LOL.. He pronounced 'Atwater' as "Water Street". 😕
@@mikesemon7392 belle isle was always known as hog island they kept all the pigs for the entire city there for atleast a hundred years prior to industrialization...the soil is very rich and fertile on belle isle to this day and its been just wonderful since they renovated the fountain to its original state from the roaring 20s...about the time it got its new name "Belle Isle"...
construction on the Caddillac building started in 1919 ......Seems to be on that 1895 map and across from book tower owned now by dan gilberts company but says its construction started in 1916............
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Sei que o poblema é meu , por favor passa em português por favor alma eterna e valiosa, sei que o portador da luz JEOVÁ Deus que está sobre o gelo azul sólido que segura as águas que estão sobre o céus, sei que todos os idiomas veio de Deus Jeová mas só sei o português. Autor Paulo da Silva de Cornélio Procópio Paraná Brasil
Gratiot is pronounced gra- (like the gra- in grab) shit (like, well, shit). gra-shit. Seriously. And also, Harper hospital is where my dad was born...it has been there for quite a long time.
the half moon green area is Grand Circus park. Detroit was designed by the same guy that designed Washington D.C., Pierre Charles L'Enfant, he was also a Freemason. Gratiot is pronounced Gra-shit.
Huron is one of the 7 native nations. It is not a tribe. As a member of the Wendat (anglicized pronunciation Wyandotte), we are a tribe within the Huron nation. Highest population of native Americans in Michigan is the Chippewa, a tribe you didn't even mention. Please don't create historical videos without learning history.
interesting subject matter, but I had to stop watching/listening to you slaughter the pronunciation of so many things. Do some research and rehearse before making a video.
Gratiot is pronounced “grass shit” No one in Detroit is French or has any French influence on speech, even tho Detroit was a French city . Detroit is much more southern than people realize
Very good however only tell the early part of the story. The author apparently has not spent much time in the city from the way he searches around the map. Still a great job on the early history.
Detroit has such a rich history. We love Detroit.
It really does, I grew up in the Fifties, just ten miles North of "du la de `triot", and have always been fascinated with the history of the whole area, into the geology of the Western Upper Peninsula!
I love this. I grew up in Detroit. Later moved 240 miles to the north to Cadillac MI. Thanks for sharing
I took an assignment on Isle Royale, and moved to the Upper Peninsula.
I did substitute doctor work at the hospital in Cadillac, Years ago
me too
I drive for Lyft and Uber snd travel just about everywhere over Detroit almost daily. Definitely an interesting city AND coming back up!
Thank you... I love maps of Detroit
Other than the pronunciation of "Pottawattomee" (POTT-ah-WOTT-ah-mee) this was a good introduction to Detroit. Being born and living my entire life in Detroit, I'm pleased to see this interest in my city.
I can’t wait to visit!! Planning to soon. 😉
And the pronunciation of Gratiot (gra shit)
This guy reads … tries to read … Wikipedia
Thanks for sharing your map and history of Detroit! Interesting!
Loved that map, I use to deliver the Detroit News on 8 - Mile and Van Dyke
Thanks for sharing. I live in Pontiac. The history and lore intrigues me.
Gratiot = "Graa-Shut"
Thank you.
Or Grashit. Lol
@@Pure_Science_and_TechnologyYou're right, it's pronounced- Gras shit
Troit in French means narrow. Detroit literally mean The Narrow. It was the named either because the Detroit River was narrow or late Erie narrowed into a river there.
We have a lot of French named roads that we have Americanized. One of those is Gratiot (gra-shot).
Almost... I've always heard and said "Gra-shit". Not trying to be crude, I LOVED living downtown and miss it desperately !!
@@the23rdbryanI've been here (Detroit) 50 yrs and have only heard it pronounced -GRAS shit
How could I get a copy of that map
I love how you said Gratiot I never thought of it being French😂
detroit is pronounced day-twa in french
In fact, he was trying to frenchify it by mistaking its spelling as "Gratoit." But this bit of historical catography is interesting indeed.
@@lexadecimal3089 Deuh-twah, not "day-twa"
@@jamesrobiscoe1174 It is a French word, but he misspelled and mispronounced it. The French pronunciation would be "grah-tee-oh".
@@argonionlaser488; Yes, (they tried) du la de troit
I skimmed through. Did you mention the Fire of 1803??
The motto: "Up from the ashes" refers to this city fire.
8:29 makes true Detroiters go 🤨
😂😆😂😆😂
Eh! - gra `twatt! Ouch!
What you don't ever cruze down grat-twat? Lol
The railway you mention @ 12:50 is known as the Dequindre cut and ran directly from the water front through eastern market and in to the industrial heart of the cities east side.
Remnants of it remain today as a greenway bike/pedestrian path.... Imagine the high line in NY, only recessed below street level instead of being elevated.
Good point
Do you have a 1915 or 1921 map? Do you know if the maps were printed in Chicago, NYC or Windsor?
Thank you i have some 1879 plat maps and some of the farmers are letting me hunt the fields and I am finding musket balls I think I found one 3 Ringer that has been fired I don't know if you're from Michigan but if you wanna go out and hunt get ahold of me will definitely do that they are about ready to start cutting the fields down so it's a good time to go I also have found a button from a Civil War uniform
I would love to hunt sometime, I'm over in the Boston area though. I can certainly for the time being look at some maps to help you find possible artifacts and I might even make a video about what you find. Def can do that if you would like to work together!
Interesting to know.
You pan around way too fast for anyone to have a clear look at. Literally had to go by what you said because I couldn't fix my eye on anything for more than a thousandth of a second.
fun fact: détroit meaning “strait” in French
Really nice content!
I had a feeling the French took over, so that’s why my family’s last name is in French but I’m pretty sure we’re mostly native and black
Very possible youre also part French
What about the Detroit treaty of 1807? It was this treaty while so many Indians joined the British fight for the war of 1812.
Do you have a physical source for your copy of the treaty of 1807?
Very interesting site you have do you have anything on Swan Creek area French town village
I'll have to look into that! I'm going to do another video soon and michigan reddit has been good to me recently so I will def have to see if I can dig up a map on that area! Thanks for watching!
Wonderful You Tube. I Was born in Harper Hospital It is still there.
A lot of these buildings are still standing. In Detroit !
Most unnecessarily are not, there were some real jewels that might have been worth saving.
you're not from around there are ya? come visit soon!
Did you hear him pronounce "Gra-twat"??? No he isn't from Detroit lol
DÉTROIT! SO INTERESTIN’
The city limits in 1895 included Downtown, and, perhaps, Midtown.
But...the city limit itself began to dramatically expand, as Detroit swallowed up other municipalities, farmland, etc. My question is: if you look at the present city limits; from eight mile to the river, from Telegraph to Chalmers...how much of that had any settlement at the turn of the Century??
Look for the Ancient Mounds. Theres more than just 1
@@larryjohnston9630 Interesting. But, I meant settlement by famers and shopkeepers.
Hi, Gratiot is pronounced "GRA-shit-- (like 'yeah' but with a 'gr' instead of 'y' in front). also, you may want to know these pronunciations: Livernois = LIV-er-noise, Cadiux = CAD-joo, Dequindre = de-KWIN-der, -- love your video!!!
💯 DO NOT come here and say that.... you don't wanna go where your told to...
Your pronunciation of "Livernois" is totally wrong. A true Detroiter knows it is pronounced "Liv-er-noy". Look it up.
Your spot on with pronunciation...thank you
IT IS NOT pronounced Liv-er-noise. It is a French word, and is pronounced Liv-er-noy. Look it up.
I know I was laughing at that
Cool!!!🎬🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Fun video. Laughing with all the people upset by your pronunciation of Gratiot. From Wikipedia:
Charles Chouteau Gratiot (August 29, 1786 - May 18, 1855) was born in St. Louis, Spanish Upper Louisiana Territory, now the present-day State of Missouri.
Fort Gratiot, Michigan, was named after Gratiot, who oversaw its reconstruction in 1814 to guard the mouth of the St. Clair River at Lake Huron.
Gratiot Avenue in Detroit was one of the original avenues laid out by Judge Augustus Woodward after the Detroit fire in 1805. It was later used as a supply road for Fort Gratiot in Port Huron under authorization from the US Congress in the 1820s.
type "pronounce gratiot" in the google search bar to hear it's common pronunciation
As we say in Detroit. Come back... we missed you the first time. 😊
Awesome work for an outsider.
I grew up on the Detroit River near wyandotte and trenton. I've always wanted to see how it looked back in the 16 and 17's
It sounded like you said (at about 11:28) "distance across river, 2 mile, 3 mile." This is not distance across the river, however it is distance from Detroit City Hall building. The Detroit River at, down town area is a little less than 1 mile wide. I love this video, and I love maps too.
A short story by: Antony H. Davidson-Black The Sociopaths Of Maple GroveOn the edge of town where city limits meet, as close to desolate as metropolitan areas get. sit ordinary somewhat quaint appearing row dormitories, though appearences aren't always as they seem. This portion of land started as acreage for a school house, years later the older half of.. a cematary. If being built on hollowed ground wasn't enough to create havoc and restlessness among forces beyond living comprehension, down the road was a Native battlefield. What needs to be understood and taken heed by the Benevolent is that blood that deep leaves a stain so egregious that if not stymied, can play host to the wicked and bizarre. This instance unfortunately attracted the most unclean sorts. The type of THINGS that are spawned from other things when those entities crawl back up from untimely horrid deaths bared as crosses on the wicked. which slowly is becoming The residences of Maple Grove Townhouses's undoing. Faces that appear compassionate and sympathizing but with just a slight shadow of a hint that is shiveringly unsettling!. But take slight comfort in knowing, these well hid beasts are mere shells of people having turned away from the light they are timid and reluctant to face the outside therefor they often recoil back into their dwellings startled by the outside world. To see the blood chilling method of a blinding & callous system of death so wickedly ingenious carried out hand in hand by the residents, leads one to conclude it must have been touched by the hand of Lucifer himself, though incorrect, Maple Grove Townhouses will introduce a level of depravity that will surely burn until it consumes itself. A dizzying game of fetch and hide and go seek that pinpoints murders several miles from it's location on the map effectively insulating itself. A dark Anti-fairy tale???? what if I were to tell you astonishingly that it's origins had validity! That guests of such a inhumane place are spun 'til logic is hard to envision, and randomly fed to depraved lunatics at a wim on this blood soaked consecrated ground. This is where average citizens who slip thru the cracks, are sent to DIE!! Where Livonia artists families are slaughtered, the youngest being toddlers! On grounds of what started in the early 1800's in Nankin Michigan as Perrinsville school house. An institution among meny established to better society, Now sadly turned into Godlessness and blight, a murder machine!
When I was 7 my uncle was murdered here in Detroit and my other uncles friend from work committed suicide in the Detroit river. This place is absolutely fucked I've been sick mentally and spiritually in torment my whole life suicidal violent and constantly in conflict. And I am aware of the evil always been but by you shedding light to it helps every bit
@@takenoshit8456 yes man for real
the distance on the ferry routes is the distance to city hall
I would like to see earlier maps of Detroit.
Not a very interesting presentation.
Timeline info is off.
Those 'measurements of distance' are NOT the amount of miles from shore to shore across the Detroit River. They represent the distance from City Hall. And mispronunciation of very well-known major Detroit street names (such as 'Gratiot') gives away the fact that this guy doesn't know what he's talking about, and isn't from the Detroit area. And probably has never even been here.
LOL.. He pronounced 'Atwater' as "Water Street". 😕
Da_BRS_Detroit and Gratiot was way off.
Abonanno24601 It's pronounced grass-shit. He called Belle Isle Hog Island
Da_BRS_Detroit agreed holy shit. Day-twah is proper French name.
@@mikesemon7392 belle isle was always known as hog island they kept all the pigs for the entire city there for atleast a hundred years prior to industrialization...the soil is very rich and fertile on belle isle to this day and its been just wonderful since they renovated the fountain to its original state from the roaring 20s...about the time it got its new name "Belle Isle"...
Charlotte S. I'm still waiting for a better presentation from you....
...2 years later.
construction on the Caddillac building started in 1919 ......Seems to be on that 1895 map and across from book tower owned now by dan gilberts company but says its construction started in 1916............
These buildings are usually much older than they claim. Prob renovated in 1919. Check out mud flood from 1860ish era.
Credit and More Information: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit
I went to Wikipedia, and read along with you word for word. What the hell, bro? I knew this sounded familiar!
I was born and raised in Detroit. West Grand Blvd 😊
No police precincts listed or shown? That's the info I need.
Nice pics
" Rent Payment Wednesday "
" June 1ST, 2022,"
" Happy Birthday Clint Eastwood "
" You're an Outstanding Actor of All TIMES."
" Most Sincerely and Respectfully, "
Neal Patrick Fry from the Detroit TIMES.
Can you do a video on Flint Michigan?
I will look in my collection of maps... might have it! See what I can do, thanks for watching!
@@BravuraMediaCompany This was deep we definitely need a flint one
That’s for this video
Interesting video, my last name goes way back in Michigan
Sei que o poblema é meu , por favor passa em português por favor alma eterna e valiosa, sei que o portador da luz JEOVÁ Deus que está sobre o gelo azul sólido que segura as águas que estão sobre o céus, sei que todos os idiomas veio de Deus Jeová mas só sei o português. Autor Paulo da Silva de Cornélio Procópio Paraná Brasil
The way you said gratiot killed me I was raised in Michigan 😂
You’re really good at reading… pronunciation need a work 🤔. I could only watch about half. I hope you site your resources.
You have the map but you still don't see the owl.......😎
Please tell more
@@murphyjulian7393 campus Marcus's downtown.......its the outline of an owl
Gratiot is pronounced gra- (like the gra- in grab) shit (like, well, shit). gra-shit. Seriously.
And also, Harper hospital is where my dad was born...it has been there for quite a long time.
kjpmi yep. i was thinking the same thing. Gratiot and Metro Pky. People also don't know how to pronounce. Orion Rd.
yep grashit i was born in st.joseph's hospital
NO! - I'm not a French Speaker, but it is pronounced with a delicate, alluring soft and pleasant tone , not some harsh, vulgar colloquium.
@@Abonanno24601; How about Cadieux?
hog island-snake island & water works park
Lmfao it's pronounced Grah shut not Gra Twat (GRATIOT)
the 2 churches by the semicircle park are one of the few buildings on that map still standing
now between the churches in Comerica park
go tigers!
the half moon green area is Grand Circus park. Detroit was designed by the same guy that designed Washington D.C., Pierre Charles L'Enfant, he was also a Freemason. Gratiot is pronounced Gra-shit.
Was baptized at St. Paul's Catholic church
Those Indians looked brown skinned with white features.! Who painted these pictures?
Seems like someone was trying to hide something!
It’s called Grattiott
Motor City
Brutal.... learn about Detroit dude. Have you ever been?
8:30 “Gray twat” haha! Pronounced (gra-shit).
There are no marks because it’s a painting
Churches were important places in 1895, seems like God was more important then too.
Huron is one of the 7 native nations. It is not a tribe. As a member of the Wendat (anglicized pronunciation Wyandotte), we are a tribe within the Huron nation. Highest population of native Americans in Michigan is the Chippewa, a tribe you didn't even mention. Please don't create historical videos without learning history.
Gratiot is pronounced grash-et
Это ноги Миши. Мичиган по русски - Ноги Миши.
Gratiot is pronounced (gra-SHIT) I do not know what accent letters to put but yeah.
8:29 Today it is pronounced Gra-shit Ave,
Yes, much like Detroit is pronounced Detoilet 🚽
So keep them buffs off your face if you dont understand the city
He's a cartographer not a linguist haha
Nice job, but Gratiot is pronounced grass-shit
Lol Gratiot lmao
interesting subject matter, but I had to stop watching/listening to you slaughter the pronunciation of so many things. Do some research and rehearse before making a video.
lol hes not from michigan...its gra-shit
All those churches on the map. Why? Isn’t that a pain in the ass? 😂
Bless Up and thanks for the video. ❤️
Planning to move to Michigan. ✌🏻
Best State I've lived in. Weather is decent. And no crazy bugs or animals 😅
Gratiot is pronounced “grass shit”
No one in Detroit is French or has any French influence on speech, even tho Detroit was a French city .
Detroit is much more southern than people realize
not "grass shit", "grashit"
Very good however only tell the early part of the story. The author apparently has not spent much time in the city from the way he searches around the map. Still a great job on the early history.