Undertale Yellow: What if you could go to Asgore on a Neutral Route? (Part 1)

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  • @ethanhall2655
    @ethanhall2655 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +568

    9:29 You know, I think this would have been the first time UTY acknowledges the fact that the Dreemurr family had a human child. Without the context of baseline Undertale, I couldn’t imagine how massive of a reveal that would be.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +93

      Weird that Chara isn't once directly referenced.
      Like their death's the catalyst to the whole game, the closest we get is Axis accidentally burning Asgore's flowerbed

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

      Yknow, if we think of uty as its own standalone game, then this info could easily be missable, i feel like itd be a good idea if you still had to find the keys to open the path, and there was a key behind the family photo so that you cant miss out on the reveal. Althrough, itd be cool if the game also provided more info about chara, because it would feel too random to not elaborate on something so important, just change the "your power..." option to "the human in the photo..." and boom.

    • @itchysundude6733
      @itchysundude6733 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      @@dylanzlol7293 I agree, but I feel like you could switch out "my soul" with "the human in the photo," mostly because imagining this as a standalone game, people would go crazy trying to figure out flowey's power.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      @@itchysundude6733 yeah, i guess it could be made so that flowey accidentally implies that he's asriel, but with it being a vague implication.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@dylanzlol7293 I mean, I don't think many people are gonna play UTY without playing UT

  • @FrenchToast9432
    @FrenchToast9432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +299

    I was crying my eyes out when Flowey said
    "Now go UNDER and let's continue our TALE"
    A masterpiece in dialog.

    • @Colddirector
      @Colddirector 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

      Best part is if you hesitate, he says "What's the matter, getting YELLOW on me?"

    • @thatonesigmer_guy
      @thatonesigmer_guy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This comment is so underrated

    • @Bajongus
      @Bajongus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@ColddirectorI favor the part where if you stop moving for 5 minutes, he says “It’s not like you’re coming down with some type of JAUNDICE. Come on!”

    • @Karthik-pn2yj
      @Karthik-pn2yj 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@Bajongus jaundice. sounds like some disease

  • @thejester4130
    @thejester4130 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +631

    You know this made me realize, while clover knows that asgore killed the other children, clover never learns why.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

      The "why" is pretty complex, so i wouldnt be surprised if clover didnt fully know it.

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

      Meanwhile, on a No Mercy run, Clover deliberately takes Asgore's soul to go back to the surface.

    • @DripBanana23
      @DripBanana23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      No mercy is different from genocide

    • @Idazmi7
      @Idazmi7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@DripBanana23
      There is no Genocide run in Undertale or Undertale Yellow. Both are officially called No Mercy.

    • @DoneThatSeenThat
      @DoneThatSeenThat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      @@Idazmi7there is no determination soul in undertale. It is called the red soul canonically

  • @The-Polarcool
    @The-Polarcool 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +915

    I know the guy, he's Wing Gaster, the Royal Scientist.

    • @DaDrawBoi
      @DaDrawBoi 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      he fell to his own creation

    • @coldlearnedhorse
      @coldlearnedhorse 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      But he prob just fell in void not died

    • @playingwithpikaquin
      @playingwithpikaquin 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Im wing gaster the royal sci-AHHH

    • @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
      @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      *Screams as Skrunkly the Chara pushes him over.*

    • @slaoqeubotoaq
      @slaoqeubotoaq 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      The ex-royal scientist

  • @potionion
    @potionion 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +638

    Martlet on the building, watching Clover talk to some random flower:

    • @НеКомару
      @НеКомару 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      lol

    • @KrisDreemurrOficial
      @KrisDreemurrOficial 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

      Martlet: I guess I won't need to inject this...

    • @The_Red_Spy_TF2
      @The_Red_Spy_TF2 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

      She paid a *premium fee* and this is how you repay her?

  • @NoName-oz3gj
    @NoName-oz3gj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +469

    1:00 perfectly captured the style of UT's humor there

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

      True

    • @DiamondBor
      @DiamondBor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      Didn't say anything about going UNDER....tale

    • @joemwangkay9358
      @joemwangkay9358 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      same i thought you could go under but nope,flowey didnt help me.

    • @constellationmaker145
      @constellationmaker145 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      it's also literal

    • @asomewhatgoofyguy4950
      @asomewhatgoofyguy4950 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      feels like something Susie would do ngl

  • @arloklenczon6811
    @arloklenczon6811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +318

    "We're finally going to be free."
    Goddamn, that line hits so can hard.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      Especially given what flowey's actual plans are supposed to be.

    • @chiefblox4000
      @chiefblox4000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      @@dylanzlol7293 Maybe it could be different like Flowey shared his life with Clover and Flowey will change it last minute because he hasn't talk to someone like this since Chara. Like Flowey reveal to Clover he is Asriel and how become Flowey and Clover understand about Flowey's choices and Flowey suddenly get his feelings back. And this is how Flowey and Asriel became true friends (Knowing this isn't the cannon ending but it's a ending we wish we had).

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@chiefblox4000 I imagine, even if he did enjoy their time together, that wouldn’t be enough to dissuade him from his plan

    • @--ananas--
      @--ananas-- 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "After all, once you reach the end of your journey, you'll probably never see them again" this hits even harder

    • @Abyss8564
      @Abyss8564 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I love how he activates the battle box, just like froggit

  • @KaydanWestfall
    @KaydanWestfall 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    7:44 i think its interesting that instead of expiration dates, its petrifaction dates, where the food turns to dust, because its made of magic like how monsters are

    • @geckoanims
      @geckoanims 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      So desintegration dates

    • @mazthehe
      @mazthehe 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Explains the instant healing

    • @TinyDeskEngineer
      @TinyDeskEngineer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's "petrification", defined as something organic being turned to stone.

    • @KaydanWestfall
      @KaydanWestfall 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TinyDeskEngineer magic is probably organic

  • @ChaoticDoodle
    @ChaoticDoodle 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

    Marlett: I wonder when Clover’s arriving, oh well, probably soon :)

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Sad

    • @ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс
      @ЕрсұлтанЖеңіс 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Then later some royal guard will tell her what clover decided to go asgore and asgore instantly killed him and got the soul which is makes martlet sad because she'd believe what if she could convince clover to not go asgore or at least be with him for the trying to convince the king to not kill clover

  • @Something_Maybe
    @Something_Maybe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +335

    Tbh, you should have been able to say no to Martlet and go to Asgore on all neutral runs after the first.

    • @Afurrythatwilldrinkyourblood.
      @Afurrythatwilldrinkyourblood. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Fr or use elevator

    • @betabee1221
      @betabee1221 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      I think even if you actually said "No" to Martlet after fighting Meta Flowey once, he's probably able to gauge that Clover wouldnt be able to beat Asgore under normal circumstances and instead just reset if Clover even tried to go to Asgore outside of Geno

    • @pineappleudh6561
      @pineappleudh6561 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      ​@betabee1221
      Genocide isn't the only ending you can go to asgore, if you kill ceroba at the end of pacifist then you get to fight asgore.

    • @LightsaberDuelz
      @LightsaberDuelz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      I agree. During my first Neutral Run, I really wanted to help Flowey and go to Asgore, but there’s sadly no way to do it. I just wanted to help my boy out. 😭

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      @@LightsaberDuelz Yeah, sucked that he complained about me not going to Asgore when like...dude i literally have no choice.
      I can either go to Martlet or reset, nothing else can be done 😭

  • @averagewonderlandenjoyer
    @averagewonderlandenjoyer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    my only problem with undertale yellow was the limited routes because i felt like there should've been more choices to make
    thats why I appreciate videos like this

    • @TheAscendedEmperor
      @TheAscendedEmperor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Tbf there's only 1 route Clover can go down no matter the choice....death is their only future.

    • @Whatjusthappenedfffuck
      @Whatjusthappenedfffuck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@TheAscendedEmperorGenocide Route :

    • @Spelo1
      @Spelo1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@WhatjusthappenedfffuckNot really canon, since they have to be dead for the original undertale to happen

    • @els2873
      @els2873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Uhm actually i​t can be canon, since Clover after killing asgore can just Reset and accept his destiny@@Spelo1

    • @g.t.nlastwish8410
      @g.t.nlastwish8410 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Clover initial destiny is to stay with Toriel but then Flowey step in and changed his path forever genocide show that it doesn't have to ended with him dying at the end

  • @VennNovember
    @VennNovember 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +142

    oogh,,, using "echoes of another" for new home was a really good choice,,,, and the parallel to the "you're going to be free" line from undertale hit me in the gut,,,,,,,,
    personally i really like the neutral ending in undertale yellow but this is a pretty good alternative take!

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Could be two options you could go to the rooftop and get the regular neutral ending or you could go to directly to Asgore and get this one

    • @Taffles-hh9cu
      @Taffles-hh9cu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea dude i love this track

  • @XD-lc5ur
    @XD-lc5ur 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    Flowey just straight up reflecting on that long ass hall before the Judment Hall 💀

    • @unchok_985
      @unchok_985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      last corridor*

    • @staydetermined6717
      @staydetermined6717 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      As always lmao

    • @lucassollak1574
      @lucassollak1574 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      The sad thing is: theres no sans undertale.

    • @skell6134
      @skell6134 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@unchok_985 Ye,its never been named judgement hall to begin with,im not even sure who is first guy to name it that way XD

    • @unchok_985
      @unchok_985 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@skell6134fr

  • @aaandag9688
    @aaandag9688 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +45

    The writing is very tight-knight and faithful to UT/UTY. Good job. And I love the "We're finally going to be free." It's very indicative of how long Flowey has spent trying to achieve this route.
    Would've been funny if Clover crossed under the velvet rope like it was a game of limbo though.

    • @johay899
      @johay899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      True

    • @johay899
      @johay899 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      But you gotta think of the animators

  • @lasagna3289
    @lasagna3289 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    I love this so much!!! The way Flowey talks about Gaster is so great. Like, it definitely seems like the way Toby Fox would have done it if he were to do so. And the reference to the Holidays...

    • @Taffles-hh9cu
      @Taffles-hh9cu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      i dont like the gaster references from _flowey_ but i love everything else

  • @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
    @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    I really wonder how Clover would react to Asgore's memories? Assuming they will see that when they are battling this time.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      oh my god that sounds amazing, we might actually see how the war started

    • @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
      @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@usermcskull4713 Clover after watching king lose both of his children in one night and then her wife dissapearing without a trace, while seeing him feel regret and guilty from killing other 5 humans (He wasn't anything like what Flowey described him)

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 Clover's still an empathetic person on neutral, they might just give their soul than and there

    • @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439
      @urdeadnotbigsuprise7439 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@usermcskull4713 I'm not saying they weren't, just that Flowey painted Asgore as this cruel man who wants to murder humans.

    • @konbkob4156
      @konbkob4156 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​​@@usermcskull4713Considering how Clover can only do that after making strides in defeating their enemy (Martlet with the armor being destroyed, Ceroba with the mask being damaged), I'd imagine it would happen if Asgore got hurt similar to how Frisk did, with Flowey dealing the killing blow before Clover could spare him

  • @SoundtrackDetector
    @SoundtrackDetector 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

    Come to think, would be really cool if the core was actually randomized and had endgame versions of monsters youve fought before. Like instead of final froggit you have to beat ultra scroll, or sour corn or whatever.

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      what if Final Flier's in a boat lol

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      The endgame version Penilla could have like a drawing tablet, the endgame sweet candy corn enemy could be something like regular corn or popcorn. The endgame mirror guy could be like a magic mirror that does different attacks depending on your ammo (ex: flowey pellets would lead to flowey-like attacks)

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      True

  • @PixelPandas
    @PixelPandas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +192

    I wish this was a mod, we would have five routes if that was the case

    • @Koiishi_Komeiji
      @Koiishi_Komeiji 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      "elevator mod" Lets you go to asgore on neutral ending. Yea, there's no core and new home, but better than nothing, right?

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@Koiishi_Komeiji true, but new home would be such an interesting idea to have

    • @abdillahahmad7025
      @abdillahahmad7025 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Five...
      You know what else is five? The previous SOULs

    • @MikeJoe-jy5kp
      @MikeJoe-jy5kp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @abdillahahmad7025 true

    • @h5ypr
      @h5ypr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@abdillahahmad7025patience for grinding out areas and fighting unfair bosses in geno, kindness for agreeing to martlet and letting her babysit you and dying anyway, bravery for killing Ceroba (what a bold move to abort your pacifist run after so much work), knowing that the cast will persevere and that monsterkind will push through and get free in true pacifist, integrity here for staying true to your mission and, you know, actually killing asgore, taking his soul and crossing the barrier and getting home and freeing the five.
      Wait here is integrity and integrity is more mentioned than the other four humans, integrity juandice neutralnessans confirmed11!1!1!1!

  • @SuperDuggy117
    @SuperDuggy117 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    This is really, really, REALLY good. Flowey is written perfectly, and although I feel like he perhaps pops out to talk to Clover a bit much, I just see that as him being a bit on edge and constantly talking to and checking on Clover to make sure things are indeed going on track. Goodness knows how long it's taken for him to get them here, after all!
    The Gaster Follower was unexpected but funny nonetheless; I suppose its color palette does make it a good fit for New Home.
    "echoes of another" was an AMAZING choice for the music of Asgore's house. Not only does it literally have the Home motif and all that, but considering the fact that it plays during the part where Flowey shows you how long he spent trying to make things work with Clover, it really drives home that after all this time, things are finally going Flowey's way. It also just really fits in general!
    Oh, forgot to mention that the fact you made the CORE's inside look a bit different due to the shuffling was both expected but still very nice.
    The chair being familiar was neat - I was a tiny bit confused initially and thought maybe it was alluding to the player or something before realizing that of course, Clover's seen the near-identical one in Toriel's home countless times; they just don't remember it.
    CLOVER WHY DID YOU TAKE THE EGGNOG THAT WAS ASGORE'S-
    I KNOW HE SAID YOU COULD HELP YOURSELF BUT THAT WAS FROM THE HOLIDAYS C'MON DUDE-
    (That was a really neat way to reference them, by the way!)
    The picture of Asgore, Toriel, Asriel, and Chara, actually being shown a la the interactable pictures in UTY was a really neat touch.
    I physically jerked back when Flowey said "It's time to go". I'm going to assume that parallel to Pacifist was intentional, but even if it wasn't, it still hit me like a bullet all the same.
    Of course there was the obligatory "You should be smiling, too" shoehorn. It worked well enough and still hit me decently, so there's that.
    Looks like Asgore decided to take up poetry, too... at least partially.
    -----
    I myself was also not a very big fan of how Asgore was done in the original game. While I did absolutely adore my time with the project, it certainly was a bit of a disappointment to see what they'd done (and what they HADN'T done) to one of my absolute favorite characters. This is really neat and I'll definitely be looking forward to the next part whenever it's ready! Thanks for the somewhat closure, haha.

  • @gamertypeawesome
    @gamertypeawesome 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    properly sized text in undertale fan work jumpscare

  • @mnwary
    @mnwary 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    not just the writing but your choices of facial expressions were good as well. I can tell how you were trying to stay true to undertale yellow's flowey impression. while you wanted to emphasize that "you're going to be free." line, I didn't expect to see flowey's last word, that was a good parallel.

  • @charismaentertainer1657
    @charismaentertainer1657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    This is a good video, however I think there are a bit too many mentions or hints at W.D gaster. Realistically I don’t think Flowey would even have any reason to start mentioning the old royal scientist and that the core replacing the steamworks was enough.
    The gaster follower is also a bit much because we don’t know if they’re naturally monochrome of if they became that way. Regardless everything else is really good!

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      You could assume that the gaster follower is just a fun event that COULD happen and that they might not appear on that place often.

    • @south452
      @south452 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      You can assume they become monochrome after infodumping about gaster too much thanks to clam girl, actually! Since she actively becomes monochrome and disappears after referencing Deltarune. The game that literally opens to what is presumed to be gaster off the bat. So I’d reckon it’s a safe guess :)

    • @charismaentertainer1657
      @charismaentertainer1657 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@south452 this is very much true, reinforcing my point!

    • @mazthehe
      @mazthehe 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Flowey has messed around the most with the underground this makes sense he would notice something watching from all around at all points

    • @hypercake23
      @hypercake23 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@mazthehe people should see the face that flowey makes in the neutral ending of undertale when he says "you havent learned a thinf. in this world is kill or be killed"
      spoiler, he makes a face that looks like mistery man

  • @laukachu
    @laukachu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    3:21 This is the end of our UNDERTALE YELLOW

    • @You_are_genocides
      @You_are_genocides 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      In the end
      The true Undertale yellow is the friends we made along the way

    • @laukachu
      @laukachu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      @@You_are_genocides wow this truly was a neutral route

    • @You_are_genocides
      @You_are_genocides 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@laukachu I get it now...
      I was the UNDERTALE YELLOW NEUTRAL ROUTE all along

  • @bruhlol3341
    @bruhlol3341 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +156

    I swear if sans undertale shows up-

    • @Arshlim
      @Arshlim 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      cl0BER i remember yor juandice

    • @darkecstaticcomment
      @darkecstaticcomment 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Undertale Yellow Megalovania!! 1!1!1!1!1

    • @Flowey_the_Goober
      @Flowey_the_Goober 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sans undertale didn't show up in geno, he wouldn't be here... we're safe..?

    • @tealover2871
      @tealover2871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      * Human... I remember your'er're... neutrals?

    • @noyneimkakoito
      @noyneimkakoito 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Don't worry, he hasn't even been invented yet

  • @Davi-zo4lu
    @Davi-zo4lu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    It's a neat idea to do this, since like you said in the description, asgore is set up a lot and you don't even fight him (well, there's the "fight" in the ending of flawed pacifist but that doesn't count) so it's neat to see how it would have been if Clover actually went to fight asgore

    • @usermcskull4713
      @usermcskull4713 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      I assume the UTY team figured that it'd be too derivative of Undertale and they wanted UTY to be a new experience, which is why it shares none of the same enemies.
      Besides Froggit (who's just one turn and doesn't fight) and Flowey (who has two battles that are very distinct from Omega Flowey)

    • @studdeddiamond2210
      @studdeddiamond2210 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@usermcskull4713imo they made it TOO derivative tho, there are continuity errors, the boss battles underuse ACTing, and obviously Asgore was a big, BIG disappointment, especially in Genocide

  • @Poopeater20
    @Poopeater20 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +393

    Flower named Flowey after the 5674th run finally goes differently

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Good for him

    • @crazyanimations2097
      @crazyanimations2097 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +41

      "WE'RE finally going to be free."

    • @konbkob4156
      @konbkob4156 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      90% of soulless flowers quit RIGHT BEFORE the human defeats Asgore

    • @uhhhhh726
      @uhhhhh726 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@konbkob4156lmao

  • @ilovepengins
    @ilovepengins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    dialouge if clover checked the mirror:
    just like always
    its you

  • @AbsolutelyAri1
    @AbsolutelyAri1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

    It's kinda funny how asgore would just let people walk around in his house... castle? And just take his food 💀💀💀

    • @MANOFACTION-jh4fz
      @MANOFACTION-jh4fz 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      he needs to add a rope to the kitchen as well as to the door to the throne

  • @t-bird6853
    @t-bird6853 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    YO THIS ANIMATION IS AMAZING! THE WAY FLOWEY LIFTS THE VELVET ROPE AND USES A LOOPHOLE ABOUT IT NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT GOING UNDER IS INSANE!

  • @gamertypeawesome
    @gamertypeawesome 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    WAIT I CAN'T BELIEVE SOMEONE TOOK THE VIDEO SUGGESTIONS INTO ACCOUNT WHEN MAKING THE ENDING I AM SO SICK OF THEM BLOCKING STUFF THANK YOU

  • @themagentacat777
    @themagentacat777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This feels like it's actually in the game, such good writing

  • @muddrantor
    @muddrantor 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is amazing and really cant wait for part two, this should defiantly get added as an update for UTY after defeating Afterlife Flowey once

  • @BoazMakowsky
    @BoazMakowsky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Excellent use of echoes of another for New Home!

  • @mjdxp5688
    @mjdxp5688 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    It would be really cool to see an AU where Clover goes the same route through the Underground as Frisk does in Undertale.

  • @Seroo0
    @Seroo0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Flowely casually yapping half of the vid

    • @TinyDeskEngineer
      @TinyDeskEngineer 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He interrupts even more often than he did during the walk through New Home in Undertale's Genocide route.

  • @Sleepy_Joe42
    @Sleepy_Joe42 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I LOVE HOW BRO JUST DID EVERYTHING IN THE HOME. I JUST LOVE IT

  • @MarissaChillya
    @MarissaChillya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I really hope you keep working on this!! The work is incredible, and I really feel like the game should've given you the option between visiting Martlet on the roof or visiting Asgore.
    Visiting Asgore on Neutral makes sense, with neutral being the "default" route, it's the most canonically safe if it ends with Clover falling for Flowey's plan and dying to Asgore. There is a mod called "The Elevator Mod" but it just lets you enter the elevator in UG Apartments to go to New Home and experience the Flawed Pacifist content basically.
    If this were a part of the game and the Martlet scene + Flowey fight were optional and borderline "secret" like the Flawed Pacifist ending is, it would make them way cooler in my opinion.
    Really looking forward to part 2 whenever it comes out!

  • @laukachu
    @laukachu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    12:16 nice paralelism of toriel here

    • @RalseiTheGoat
      @RalseiTheGoat 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      like mother, like son, right>

    • @laukachu
      @laukachu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@RalseiTheGoat yeah

  • @johay899
    @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    “Some may even say I shouldn’t be helping you” called out moment

  • @citiwongful
    @citiwongful 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Love the reference to the Holidays at 7:40

  • @mattsterical577
    @mattsterical577 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

    so glad we're moving past the "nobody remembers who gaster was" thing since that was only fanon.

    • @afonsitito4099
      @afonsitito4099 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Wait, what? Isn't that what Goner Kid was implying in Undertale?

    • @trekkinmain4974
      @trekkinmain4974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

      I dunno, why could Flowey mention and talk about him just fine, but when you put Gaster as your name the whole game restarts. As if there has been some kind of anomaly where the game's only solution is to reload where it hasn't happened yet. I feel like somebody name-dropping him outta the blue is going against canon

    • @PixelPandas
      @PixelPandas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@trekkinmain4974It's weird because of one big inconsistency, if he was completely forgotten by everyone then why did Asgore took so long to replace him? It's the one thing that always feels weird about him being forgotten

    • @trekkinmain4974
      @trekkinmain4974 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@PixelPandas I don't remember the exact dialogue where that's said, but I feel like that could be explained by Asgore vaguely remembering him and that's affecting the way he acts. Gaster has fallen out of time and space but he could still be affecting the subconscious of those who knew him. I think Goner Kid mentions something like this as well.

    • @starleine
      @starleine 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      I'm still inclined to think monsters struggle to remember his name.
      They can recall that there was a Royal Scientist who preceded Alphys and built the CORE, but whenever they try to recall what his name was, they end up drawing a blank.

  • @CallMeSoumya2063
    @CallMeSoumya2063 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    God dang I wish this were a mod, not just an animation

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Same

  • @TheGrammarNazi123
    @TheGrammarNazi123 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Looks like we have TWO Undertale/Deltarune "What If" TH-camrs: JQR and yourself.

    • @OliverLX6
      @OliverLX6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And John Brain too)

    • @noyneimkakoito
      @noyneimkakoito 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​They don't know him, he's Russian-speaking. However, there are also English subtitles

    • @rianana3636
      @rianana3636 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought they were the same person until seeing this comment

  • @shitpostmania6061
    @shitpostmania6061 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Flowey doing the thing with the robe captures the vibe of undertale yellow(1:00)

  • @curdzfordayz1151
    @curdzfordayz1151 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This is an extremely well done animation, I thought it was a mod until I read the description haha, you should be proud of yourself

  • @ralseithegod4244
    @ralseithegod4244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    I'm wing gaster the royal scientist

    • @Ralsei21
      @Ralsei21 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      So we,ve met again faker im the original ralsei

    • @FARKONO
      @FARKONO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​@@Ralsei21WHO SHOULD I TRUST😨

    • @huyphoy1858
      @huyphoy1858 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      guys say something the real fluffy guy would

    • @Flowey_the_Goober
      @Flowey_the_Goober 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@huyphoy1858 Fortnite.

    • @ralseithegod4244
      @ralseithegod4244 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@huyphoy1858 huh, something the real fluffy guy would

  • @snowAngels55
    @snowAngels55 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow, I really liked this, I liked the dialogue, the music, and the references.

  • @Yuti640
    @Yuti640 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Incredible, I adore things like this and have always wanted to see what would happen if you could go to Asgore

  • @EveTanooki
    @EveTanooki 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Y'know, as much as I'd like this idea for a true pacifist (not flawed I know how that ends lol), It'd probably just end in a similar way to regular undertale yellow true pacifist. I'd imagine either clover learns why asgore's taking souls, or they'd realise asgore wouldn't be doing this without good reason, so they'd give their soul up to him, I think.

  • @rodridante
    @rodridante 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    13:49 I like the subtle fourth wall break.

    • @syco9008
      @syco9008 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how is it a fourth wall break?

    • @rodridante
      @rodridante 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@syco9008 TL;DR, Flowey existing before all the 6 souls were collected causes some problems with what he says about his time being able to save and load.
      That line is referencing the people that noticed those problems.

    • @lasagna3289
      @lasagna3289 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rodridanteDoes it? How so?

    • @leuzimarsantosmendes3180
      @leuzimarsantosmendes3180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lasagna3289 Flowey was created by the culmination of all the six souls, don't make to much sense flowey help clover here because he wouldn't exist, just after clover death. Get it? My bad if don't, english is not my native lenguage.

  • @MarissaChillya
    @MarissaChillya 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is amazing!! I heavily support this, please continue to make this!! I'd love if this got finished omg

  • @epicstar86
    @epicstar86 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've always thought about this when first doing the neutral route (also at 4:43 nice reference to that one cut room in Waterfall with the tall grass)

  • @sanstheskeleton3279
    @sanstheskeleton3279 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This is really cool!, I wish it was an actual mod, can't wait for part 2!
    (also, I like how you used ''echoes of another'' for New Home, it really fits!)

  • @RpgBlasterRpg
    @RpgBlasterRpg 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Imagine if Clover was at genocide route, he could had won against Asgore at LVL 19.

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I think you could be correct maybe he couldn’t use the super big shot but considering what he did to axis it’s very possible he still could’ve beat Asgore

    • @manufacturedfromabove79
      @manufacturedfromabove79 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      In flawed pacifist ending Asgore was going totally all-out against Clover plus this battle took place not too long after the fight with Ceroba meaning Clover was still worn-out however in neutral route he may put up more of a fight against the king of monsters and in genocide route clover would demolished asgore with ease

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@manufacturedfromabove79 true

    • @Taffles-hh9cu
      @Taffles-hh9cu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i think its implied clover isnt as strong as frisk and still wouldn’t be able to beat him

    • @regrettablevillain273
      @regrettablevillain273 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Taffles-hh9cu I doubt so. Flowey does say Clover proved that she could beat Asgore a long time ago after the fight with Ceroba (LV12) in the No Mercy Route.

  • @thisisaprettycoolusername
    @thisisaprettycoolusername 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is awesome. Great work!💛

  • @Qbix1234official
    @Qbix1234official 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never expected one of the Gaster followers to be in the New Home doing something different than being creepy

  • @air-kong-sora
    @air-kong-sora 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Nice secret dialogue reference on 4:50, which makes sense considering that flowey's always behind the scenes

  • @gabrote42
    @gabrote42 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:35 Sick reveal actually, given that Clover does not have Undertale sequences. Pretty solid Gaster and Holiday references as well.

  • @jacobf.1691
    @jacobf.1691 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    WE NEED PT 2

  • @chiefblox4000
    @chiefblox4000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I really thought that if you follow Flowey always that Flowey might become you true friend

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      He's a cold-heartless Flower
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play
      He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
      Clover, don't play the fool, no
      You're the one givin' up the love
      Anytime he needs it
      But you turn your back, and then he's off and runnin' with the crowd
      You're the one to sacrifice
      Anything to please him
      Do you really think he thinks about you when he's out?
      He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play
      He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
      Girl, don't play the fool, no
      It was only late last night
      He was out there sneakin'
      Then he called you up to check that you were waiting by the save point
      All the world's a candy store
      He's been trick or treatin'
      When it comes to true friendship, clover, with him there's no one home
      He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play
      He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
      , don't play the fool, no
      You could find somebody better
      He could only make you cry
      You deserve somebody better girl
      He's c-cold as ice
      He's cold as ice
      He's cold as ice
      He's cold as ice
      Stay away from him, girl
      C-c-c-cold-hearted, ooh-ah-ah
      C-c-c-cold-hearted, heartless Flower
      C-c-c-cold-hearted, ooh-ah-ah
      C-c-c-cold-hearted, snake
      He's a cold-hearted snake
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play
      He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
      Clover, don't play the fool, no
      Ooh, ahh, look into his eyes
      Ooh, ahh, he's been tellin' lies
      Ooh, ahh, he don't play by rules
      Ooh, ahh, , don't play the fool
      He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play
      He don't play by the rules, uh-oh
      Clover, don't play the fool
      He's a cold-hearted heartless Flower
      Look into his eyes, uh-oh
      He's been tellin' lies
      He's a lover boy at play

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      maybe kind of

    • @astrobeth
      @astrobeth 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@johay899WHAT

  • @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031
    @chromxrobinandcorrinxcamil9031 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    *Sees the fridge note*
    ;(

  • @mastermewtwo5503
    @mastermewtwo5503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It did strike me as odd that in the actual Neutral route, Flowey turns homicidal just because I spoke to a bird on the rooftop. I never said I wasn't going to fight Asgore, and I wasn't aware socialization was a crime. Then when you do "fight" Asgore in Flawed Pacifist and Genocide, it's just a forced loss in your favor or Asgore's [especially Flawed Pacifist, I get the whole "Clover's already dead" but come on].

    • @AboobakkarCheeral
      @AboobakkarCheeral 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thats because flowey wants to use clovers soul after they beat asgore and when flowey hears that clover wants to live with martlet, they get angry and decides to torture clover for leaving his misson.

    • @mastermewtwo5503
      @mastermewtwo5503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@AboobakkarCheeral I mean, Clover never explicitly said yes to Martlet's offer.

    • @AboobakkarCheeral
      @AboobakkarCheeral 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mastermewtwo5503 Flowey kills martlet before clover could answer so that their choice didn't matter

  • @twilysparks
    @twilysparks 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is so well done, wow!!

  • @dylanzlol7293
    @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Imagine if there was a longer version of undertale yellow's asgore battle theme, given that its only half of the actual ASGORE (aside from the fact that the uty game over motif replaces the ut game over motif)

  • @XtreemAlan
    @XtreemAlan 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    “Please don’t climb over”
    Clover: ok *goes under*

  • @JackDout
    @JackDout 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Enters judgehall and suddenly sans undertale

  • @yakishbek
    @yakishbek 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the elevator doesnt seem to.... NOOOOOOOOO

  • @mobileterrarian3653
    @mobileterrarian3653 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:32 Flowey REALLY didn't want Clover to be in that room looking at that photo, huh?

  • @potatofarmer9488
    @potatofarmer9488 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I always wanted this

  • @Nartymer
    @Nartymer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Steamworks is obviously not that old since less than decades ago it was said to be built. Gaster is so old that basically no character besides the followers even talk about him EVER. But I guess it does correlate in one way or another with UTY's inconsistent canon

  • @FARKONO
    @FARKONO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    holy crap i wonder when is part 2!

  • @ParaternalSkies64
    @ParaternalSkies64 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Aww, I wanted to see how Clover would interact with the mirror

  • @Yutingen
    @Yutingen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Man I really wanted to see Clover dance in the elevator

  • @Oranjeguise
    @Oranjeguise 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Idea: what if you lose to ceroba and flowey doesn't revive you.

    • @doublezerob
      @doublezerob 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      She'd probably keep the soul and try to do something to fulfill Chujin's plan. That's all she'd have left to live for, at that point

    • @ViniciusDiasissy
      @ViniciusDiasissy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This does make me think of what Flowey says if you die to the feisty five.
      "Wow, I really wanted to stick out to see what the sheriff would do" or something, he also says how it didn't look like Martlet wanted to kill you.
      You be fun to see some scenarios were Clover just died for a while

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good idea

    • @syco9008
      @syco9008 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She would fuse it with Kanako. beyond that point, you have a different story on your hands that I don't feel like writing :/ .

  • @penntopaper9305
    @penntopaper9305 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    9:35 bro rly said get tf out of my room LMFAOOO

  • @SoundtrackDetector
    @SoundtrackDetector 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Wanted to do this so bad!

  • @Lady_ETHNE
    @Lady_ETHNE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this so freaking much. The dialogue, the 4th wall breaks, everything. I have an interesting idea of where to take this, you could make an Asgore fight that gives you the option to kill Asgore, take his soul, get the other human souls, and leave. No Flowey fight, no forced confrontation where Clover dies, just an actual fight that ends in Clover completing their mission. Sure, everyone would lose their king and they’d still be trapped in the underground but HEY at least Clover gets to live :)

    • @NoName-oz3gj
      @NoName-oz3gj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And Martlet gets her wish from the dunes well

    • @tealover2871
      @tealover2871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heavily doubt the fact that Flowey would just let Clover get away with the souls, it's pretty obvious, that Flowey will absorb all of the five human souls right after he'll get a chance. After all, it was the only reason he ever started "helping" Clover in a first place.

    • @Lady_ETHNE
      @Lady_ETHNE 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tealover2871 I know. A girl can dream though

  • @gacharandom6087
    @gacharandom6087 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    ... you cant just have a moment where Flowey lets us ask questions
    add a question about Martlet's letter
    AND NOT SHOW US WHAT IT IS!!!!! (in case it wasnt obvious- this is ment to be a joke)

  • @duccthatwaddles
    @duccthatwaddles 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's looking good! I'm looking forward to the conclusion.

  • @GoodOlJenkinsYT
    @GoodOlJenkinsYT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Gaster being referred here even not by name and an encounter with one of his followers is... extremely off-putting. I don't know why?

  • @greenhydra10
    @greenhydra10 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This truly was... an Under-rope.
    And I see what you did at 13:49.

  • @jasoncharlton1615
    @jasoncharlton1615 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Cant wait for the extras

  • @jadentoontime
    @jadentoontime 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    OKAY SOMEONE NEEDS TO MAKE A MOD FROM THIS

  • @PrototemReal
    @PrototemReal 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Imagine if you could use a debug menu to move through the velvet rope

  • @JustSoren5789
    @JustSoren5789 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    fighting omega flowey as clover would be hard

  • @Laurier193
    @Laurier193 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So this is why nobody could fix the core in horrortale.

  • @sahilhossian8212
    @sahilhossian8212 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lore of Undertale Yellow: What if you could go to Asgore on a Neutral Route? (Part 1) momentum 100

  • @PixelShiftss
    @PixelShiftss 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I was wondering how the asgore fight would go, and then I saw lil bro was lvl 2 he ain’t touching asgore 😂

    • @Zimbabwae1
      @Zimbabwae1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      in the trailer for the what if neutral route had clover at lvl 11, I have no idea why the creator decided to decrease their lvl to 2 like that. I feel like clover on aborted genocide in steamworks on lvl 12 would have them stand more of a chance against Asgore

  • @Catastrophe.
    @Catastrophe. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    So there is an illogical statement of lore here. Flowey says he wasn't there before the other five souls. Well, Asriel and Chara's death was what caused the need for them.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Flowey didnt want to reveal he's asriel through.

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      and while Azriel may have been there before flower wasn’t after all, he needed to be reborn due to determination science experiments

  • @dymaz_azure
    @dymaz_azure 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    flowey at the end:
    They all dont matter now, but i respect if you want to say goodbye before the end

  • @USSR_BALL-e
    @USSR_BALL-e 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This would be a great idea,instead of flowey betraying you after going to marlet,he basically does the same like in normal UT,you defeat asgore and he takes the 5 souls and tries to kill you

  • @dylanzlol7293
    @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Would there be dialogue changes depending on the amount of lv or kills you have? Like, say, an aborted genocide run at steamworks or a merciless neutral run or a neutral run with lv 6 or etc.?

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That would be cool I think that this would be a potential endgame alternative to the judgments. You kind of get on top of the apartment building normally with flower and Asgore taking

  • @ilovepengins
    @ilovepengins 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    asgores house theme sounds so....
    strange its like multiple themes mixed together and corrupted yet so mysterious
    for some reason its like i hear the surface itself

  • @BrenninEthan903
    @BrenninEthan903 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only problem with UTY was how limited we were, there seems like there could be more to do only for the game to force you in one direction, pacifist forces your death without a choice, neutral you can’t even go to Asgore, you’re forced to stay with Martlet even if you don’t agree, genocide is genocide, not much to say on that since it can’t be changed, and it’s my favorite ending anyway. I get it, Clover is meant to die canonically, but some more non-canon endings than just 1 would be more appreciated.

  • @leedlelel2373
    @leedlelel2373 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Some may argue i shouldnt even be helping you" eyyyy i see what you did there

  • @thegreatmc999godme2
    @thegreatmc999godme2 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I believe in this case, maybe we could get pass asgore (wich would lead us to a Omega Flowey but with 5 souls battle) that we maybe woundt win in an alternative universe this could be the case

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If flowey can kill an aborted genocide clover easily, wouldnt this lead to flowey's victory?

    • @johay899
      @johay899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dylanzlol7293 potentially yes, the only reason frisk won in the original is because Asgore held back

    • @tealover2871
      @tealover2871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@dylanzlol7293 Well, Souls can get rebellious like it happened in undertale. So, perhaps, there's still some hope left.

    • @dylanzlol7293
      @dylanzlol7293 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@tealover2871 only because frisk called for help at the end, otherwise they were screwed

    • @tealover2871
      @tealover2871 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dylanzlol7293 Clover can do the same thing, if Flowey will get cocky, of course.

  • @mastermewtwo5503
    @mastermewtwo5503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    By the way, I notice some mentions about Yellow having continuity errors... What are some of them? [Guess one that at least felt odd is Chujin mentioning Boss Monsters being immortal until having a child, except Undertale's main 'Boss Monsters' are husband and wife, and actually had a child and Asgore and Toriel seemed fine for their (indeterminate) age.]

    • @evilness3404
      @evilness3404 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The boss monster one is fine. UT barely explains the rules of it. They only age when they have kids. When the kids die, they dont age anymore.
      The only direct contridiction that doesn't rely on subtext/implication and outside information is the reason why Alphys was looking for fallen down monsters, in the original UT it was to look for a way to make monster souls last so that they could collect them and substitute them for a human soul. In UTY, Ceroba sends Kanako to Alphys for treatment. This only makes sense if Asgore/Alphys lied about the reasons for collecting fallen down monsters. Alphys herself was expecting the monsters to turn to dust: "ASGORE asked everyone outside the city for monsters that had "fallen down." Their bodies came in today. They're still comatose... And soon, they'll all turn into dust. But what happens if I inject "determination" into them? If their SOULS persist after they perish, then... Freedom might be closer than we all thought. things aren't going well. none of the bodies have turned into dust, so I can't get the SOULs. i told the families that i would give them the dust back for the funerals. people are starting to ask me what's happening. what do i do?" Also instead of Ceroba feeling that Kanako is alive, she should've just stated that Alphys called her to tell her that 'a few months/ a year/shortly after sending her' as Alphys did do that. Theres a few things that rely on subtext or small details from UT to become contradictions, mainly the timeline. Toriel (whos immortal until she gets killed or has a kid again and is implied to be significantly old, to her it would not be a long time) says to Frisk that a human hasn't fallen in a long time. The true lab experiments and Flowey's existence: The intent in UT from Toby was for him to be created after the 6th soul was taken, as it would make sense for a royal scientist to try and make soul power by collecting a ton of monster souls to replace a single human soul (according to the waterfall murels and the end of the TP route, it would take basically every monster soul to equal one human soul, which would also only really be an option if humans were extremely rare as well, but UTY forces Integrity, Clover, and Frisk into a very short timeframe of a few years). The save file numbering also implies that Flowey popped up after the 6 human souls were collected but since it relies on outside information (game files) it doesn't technically need to be taken into account. Some other stuff like the steamworks opening/closing dates as well.
      Side note: Nowhere in UTY is Asgore's full plan of going to war against humanity mentioned. I think if Clover gave up their soul after learning that it would be kinda bizarre so maybe thats why it wasn't included? Idk.

    • @mastermewtwo5503
      @mastermewtwo5503 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@evilness3404 If that last part was true, it does sound a bit ironic. Clover gives up their soul for the monsters to be free... And by the way, go through with war due to the tense relations and possible grudges against the human oppressors.

    • @evilness3404
      @evilness3404 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @mastermewtwo5503 i mean it is true. It is mentioned like 4 or 5 times in Undertale by major bosses (implicitly by toriel, explicitly by Undyne and Mettaton) that Asgore would wipe out humanity. The fact that it wasn't mentioned at all in UTY is baffling to me, but I like the game's story anyways so i look past it

    • @evilness3404
      @evilness3404 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As an update to this: the game actually does mention both of these. Blackjack mentions the overthrow humanity thing, and you can find a note in Ceroba's house from the royal science division, Ceroba just lied about it in the steamworks entrance cutscene.
      The blackjack line tho is pretty vague and if clover knew Asgore was saying he would overthrow humanity and still decided to give up their soul it does make their character a bit weird, maybe they see humanity as having done such a massive sin that they deserve punishment as a whole? Would mirror the No Mercy route Clover, i suppose.

  • @jiyookim-jung975
    @jiyookim-jung975 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We're at endgame and Clover is still consuming questionable foods.

  • @gambIecore
    @gambIecore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    WAIT this may be unintentional but a part of the song that starts playing in asgores house sounds like the lost at a sleepover leitmotif from omori (at 7:21), it specifically reminds me of treehouse - here we are, together again
    edit: i just realized thats just taken from echoes of another😭

    • @geckoanims
      @geckoanims 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holy shit yeah

  • @OffbrandDTraveler
    @OffbrandDTraveler 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    13:49 Lmao

    • @flipflop_bell
      @flipflop_bell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      absolute perfect 4th wall break

    • @AldinRamic
      @AldinRamic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@flipflop_bell I didn't even realise
      And I didn't know what people have said that he should not be helping clover

    • @flipflop_bell
      @flipflop_bell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AldinRamic it's because of the theory that clover had the determination to reset and that flowey came to be after the 6 fallen humans

    • @AldinRamic
      @AldinRamic 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@flipflop_bell oh yeah
      That's right
      I forgot about that