I watched this video 40 times lol when I was deciding on a gimbal...went with the Weebill S. After about a year of using it and growth, I am now considering the RSC 2 and selling my Weebill S. Great job Peter! Video continues to help in decisions.
I am grateful I found your channel tonight. I watched every video on youtube about these two and others. I also just changed my BH photo order from Weebill to RC2. Looking forward to perhaps your class. Thank You.
I’ve been debating on these two back-and-forth since the release. For some reason, the Weebill S here in Vietnam is only $250 new. A breakdown like this makes me lean more to the DJI, but I also have to think about how much I’m going to really use it
Peter, good review. Your content is great. Thank you! I also have both gimbals. One thing that I really like on the Weebill S is being able to hold down the front trigger when in Pan Follow mode, to get temporarily into Follow mode when you need to change the tilt angle. I like to shoot 95% of the time in Pan Follow mode, and just occasionally switch to follow mode to adjust the tilt angle, and this works great. The RSC 2 does not have this, as the front trigger puts you into Lock mode. To adjust the tilt, the only way to do it is to use the joystick, and I find that to be much harder.
This is a feature that I regretted switching my weebill s to rsc2 and i am surprised no youtuber mentioned it, its kinda a deal breaker for me but this might be something dji is sticking with going forward and maybe I need to learn and adapt it
Honestly to me Zhiyun is like Android. They are the ones coming up with new and innovative things buttttt they're always buggy until 2 or 3 updates later. DJI is like Apple where they take these new innovative ideas and perfects them and then everyone just suddenly forgets that Android (or Zhiyun) did it first lol
So true! I had the first Weebil S in like 2019 before they took it off the market for a while. Luckily I returned it, was super buggy. Now I have the early 2020 version with the whole image transmission system and it's still kinda clunky. Thinking I should probably dump it for the rsc2
My experience with Apple has been damn horrible. To me apple only works if you are invested in their echo system. But if you use multiple platforms apple really sucks ass.
Uhm, Apple came out LOOOOOONG before Windows. Bill gates ripped off the OS system, and was sued accordingly. They are also limited in how Windows can actually function due to Apple's original copyright... But I get your point.
@@stiknpoke Actually Apple and Microsoft both ripped off Xerox who were developing a ton of GUI and computer interface stuff that never made it to the public. They all sued each other and all of the lawsuits were thrown out. I also think when most people are talking about Apple taking existing ideas and polishing them up they are talking about in the modern era (after iphone came out).
I’ve been debating returning my weebill for the dji since I’m still within the return window. The only thing making me want to keep the weebill is the ability to easy go to underslung mode. It’s so easy. It seems to be a bit of a hassle with the dji regardless of how cool it looks
I haven’t purchased any yet but if I get one I would go for the weebill because of the underslug convenience of going back and forth in the shoot. Who cares how kool it may look for the DJI to change to underslug mode it defeats the purpose in a shoot. Secondly the battery issue in the long run the weebill is just better.
Absolutely WRONG brother! NO Trust in Ronin, with their 1000th and 1000th of complaints on Dead batteries and no Respond from Company! Save the hard earned money!
@@alenlenia I actually had to return a weebil s because it came with missing parts. I Contacted their customer service department saying I need those parts & it took them 3 days to just tell me to check again 😂
@@Kaisolostudio I have literally installed the wrong Firmware on my Weebill Lab, and the whole thing stopped working. you know how long it took for support Center to explain me everything and send me all the required Data!? 10 minutes !
Got the Weebill S brand new with warranty for $260. Couldn't find the RSC2 for any less than $500. Considering it was nearly half i was able to get extra hardware and still keep it cheaper including smallrig handle and follow focus.
Awesome comparison, I watched this vdo before closing my deal standing at a shop, your beginning of the vdo dragged me towards DJI but when you mentioned about battery I'm inclined to weebill as it's value of money 👍 thank-you I'm buying weebill S ☺️
I recently chose the weebill s over the rsc2. The option to replace the batteries of the former means I won't have to throw it away when the batteries die. .
Great stuff, was looking to see if my S5 with the 24-70 pro lens would fit the RSC2, looks like thats a yes, just need to know if its going to be good for weight distribution, bit front heavy. Cheers.
Being a gh5 user and usually using manual focus, I'm really curious about what is the best or easiest option to use. Setting focus prior and following at the same distance? Or really have to get an extra device to do the focusing?
with the swappable batteries essentially giving you "unlimited" power and the instant switch to the underslung mode the weebill honestly does make it a hard ass comparison now all Zhiyun needs to do is make a gimbal designed to take out the rsc2
Have you had any issues with the side rosette of the weebill s? I had a problem while using a small rig magic arm where the end that I would screw into the rosette to hold my field monitor, and it dented in the side of the battery location, moving my batteries and not being able to turn the weebill on until I took out the magic arm.
Thanks 2020 for your objective reviews and tests. As soon as we go out of the compatibility lists of the different gimbal brands, it is difficult to find infos for a less conventional use : I use a bridge Lumix FZ2000/25000 and I just don't know what gimbal could fully fit in. I thought that the Weebill S could give more space at the back that most other gimbals (Ronin SC, AK2000 C etc...) but you say that the new RSC2 can fit lengthier/ heavier lenses. I am in despair and smoke coming out of my ears. What to choose ? So many materials, so many reviews but very few experimentations. Everyone working with most common (and fantastic set-ups). Could you put your hand on a FZ2500 and try it ? Thanks again for your hard and didactic work
With the RSC2, do you think my gh5 with the sigma art 1.8 18-35mm lens and metabones speedbooster will fit? Do you think I should get the weebill s for this setup? I'm just looking for a lighter gimbal for on the go shoots
Thanks. Great video. I think i will go with the RSC2. Can i install the Manfrotto 323 base plate on top of the RSC2 instead of the arca swiss that you have? I have Manfrotto 200PL in all my cameras and tripods, so it would be nice not to change to arca swiss.
🙌Great test. If you have a moment, I have a few questions. For newbies, which of the two do you recommend❓ Or the learning curve is similar, so there will be no difference from one to the other, in the long run. Another question I have is that I have a Panasonic G85 and it seems that with the Weebill S, you can't even use the start/stop button to control the camera. And I think that the DJI can even change the aperture or the ISO, but I'm not sure because they don't give much information about it on the respective websites. Do you know anything about this❓ can you help me with something❓ Thank you in advance 👍
Hey peter great video as always. Thx for all the hard work. I purchased the weebil s like you recommended and so far I love the product...still I need some help figuring something out. I have a sony a6400, when I mounted sideways to record vertical videos I can hear the motor kind of struggling. Can you point specifically to what settings I have to adjust to fix that issue? [assuming is fixable]. Thank you in advance
Hey. Thanks. First off I would upgrade to 2.01 if you haven done that. Then mount the camera vertical and autotune. I would then adjust the strength of the roll motor so it has as much power as possible and if needed the tilt motor as well. I hope this will help.
@@PeterMakholm well Peter its 01am here in Boston but I am gonna try that right now. Thanks brother. Ill make sure to give you a shout out when I make that vertical video.
Nice review, bro. I got a WBS and I am pretty happy with it. Battery remove and lower mode is breaker deal for me. Q: Do you know hoe to add a LUT with the Zhiyun app? Kind of url stuff...
You just like your new toy more, as we all do. ;) Imo, in a basic configuration, the Weebill S may win the weight battle, because acutally you just need 1 mini tripod and it works fine and you don't need the smallrig mounting thing at all. Same goes with the manfrotto adapter. Take off those 3 things and voilà, the Weebill S is lighter than the RSC2. Btw, thanks for the great informative videos. 🔥
Yes, that is correct. The expensive smallrig monitor mount is not needed. both of the gimblas are so light, that any extra weight on them won't do any difference when working with them. They both have pros and cons, and as with camera bags the perfect one never excists. The important thing is that they can get the job done.
Hey Peter, great comparison. Was wondering how you found the performance of the RSC2 in inverted mode compared to the Weebill S? Is it possible to go in inverted mode with the switch grips to achieve a mini Ronin M ergonomic?
I have the rsc2 and raven eye. When I connect my Sony A7R2 with the cables supplied im experiencing a problem. I do get video out of camera into my phone with the ravel eye connection and I can control the record start of the camera but not both at the same time. When I put the gimbal on the video feed goes black and when I put the gimbal in sleep mode the video feed returns. What am I doing wrong?
I was considering the RSC2, BUT the battery being internal cant swap it or anything is a deal breaker. Its fast charging and all and sounds amazing, but when the life time of the battery starts to wear out it doesnt last 14 hrs or worst case scenario wont even charge that what worries me in investing in it. But thats just me idk if someone elses know the internal battery can be changes let me know!
@@PeterMakholm hey Peter! putting you up to date with my decision on the gimbal. I ended up buying the DJI RS 2 Pro Combo I just got it yesterday so lets see how it goes from there 🙌🏻🔥
thx for the vid. Will you be making one comparing their tracking? I was never able to make the Weebill work for more than a few seconds. I've heard that the Ronin has better tracking.
nice comparison. in case we update rsc2 pro kit to rs2, accessories can be re-used i suppose ? does ninja v fit rsc2 as you show on vertical secondary handle ? where do you put a rode microphone ? for a z6ii + 24-70 F/2.8 and ninja v, is it crazy to buy rs2 pro kit ? a pity it is not smaller like a weebil-s :-) is it interesting to have pro kit ? do you use it ? as beginner we's buy the whole kit but in practice, in a wedding,..; do we have time to swith z6i from photo mode to gimbal and install transmitter, focus ring, smarphone on smalrig handle,... ?
My main concern about buying RSC2 is the irreplaceable battery, everything else seems perfect. So one question is ...will it work while charging? If its work then its possible to attach powerbank for possibility of endless shooting
Thanks for this great review. I am planning to buy Sony a7iii, do you think RSC2 is okay for it? And please if you would recommend 1 lense for pictures and videos for this camera, what would it be?
Thanks, Yes the RSC2 Is perfect for your setup. DJI RSC2: geni.us/AEsDUPa As a lens I would go for a 24-70mm f2,8 amzn.to/2OZgT1b A cheaper option could be: Sigma 24-70mm f2,8 amzn.to/3pL68fD Or a Sony24-105mm f4 amzn.to/37wPTMK
@@PeterMakholm Thank you! One follow up question - I saw another youtuber complaining that after you calibrate everything, if you remove the camera for some handheld and then put it back, you gotta recalibrate it, otherwise you experience odd jerks. Did you experience that at all? (th-cam.com/video/jOjJE5uGz-M/w-d-xo.html)
I am wary that the gears end up being loose or even the connections fail with this DJI system ... Did you tray the Aircross 2 ?? Great video, as always.
Does anyone experience a little bit of inconsistency with the follow focus motor? Like a slight jitter? DJI QC is garbage and their window of return (15 days) is very short. Trying to see if I'm the only person who got shafted.
Hi Peter, what about the active tracking on both of these gimbals? I have seen DJI marketing that feature but is it really something which can be used in the real world?
Hey Peter, I have a question that's a little outside of the topic regarding this video. I'm wondering if there's a way for the Weebill S to connect with the GH5 to control aperture, shutter speed and ISO levels while the camera is connected to a monitor? Without having the camera lcd screen from going blank? Is there a workaround to do this that you know of?
@@anonymouse7074 Why not? Have you used Panasonic's a lot? Do you know how good they "also" are? Not everybody wants or needs Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji...although I would like one for lower-light work. Then again, the GH5S is tremendous in low-light. I shoot mostly nature/wildlife/landscape videos and the 2x crop factor and built-in 2.6x telextender get me long-lens shots you can't even touch on FF cameras. All a matter of preference...
Yes, that is the big question. If your weebill s does the job for you and it works perfect, I would not change it out. Unless you just wan't a new gimbal.
Weebill S sucks, worst gimbal I ever used. Micro Jitters are everywhere no matter how many times you balance or calibrate, especially if your camera doesn't have IBIS. Do long walks and you'll se what I'm talking about
Micro jitters dont matter! it can be easily removed in Post! i as a producer, would pay 200 bucks and get a second hand Weebills and get the job done! i have Zero trust in Ronin after all my bad experience
@@alenlenia although you might be a producer I bet you never walked filming a straight hour with a gimbal with no cuts, try it with weebill s and I bet you won't be able to get rid of all those microjitters
just got my rsc2 used ot for about 5 minutes will say there is a bit of a learning curve it seems way more sensitive than my weebill also feeling a little motor vibration here and there from the roninand it feels heavier...but my weebil seems to be slowly falling apart..gonna get mor practice with the roning see how it does
Being that video reviews are just a guild rather than gospel, the features that’s needed for the individual should be the only deciding factors. The quick underslung mode and swappable batteries are a plus for me.
Great video. I have and use the WeeBill S. The 12hours battery life is only a dream never ever you get that much especially if you use a focusing motor or you give voltage to the cam. it might only be 2-3 hours BUT you can change the battery I have 5 sets (5 x 2) so it is no problem. With the DJI I don't know it might be problematic as well (I think so) and than you have to charge. All other observation are real BUT the DJI is a brand new gimball and the WeeBill S is old now so we might get an even better from Zhiyun soon. All of them will improve as time goes by. The WeeBill is a great tool the footage is super and it is smaller which is a plus I think... (and the accessories also cheaper I think like image transmission system etc...)
Yes, I agree that getting 12 hours out of a set of batteries is not possible, and therefore I also preffer to have a gimbal that has swopeble batteries. The internal battery could be a problem for the RSC2. On the Ronin M there are problems with some older batteris. I beleive that we soon will se a follow up for the Weebill S.
@@PeterMakholm Absolutely. I agree if I would buy now I would also probably choose the DJI... BUT the battery problem is a real concern, I usually have to change battery after 2-3 hours of heavy usage with the Zhiyun... which is not that much. And i am sure it also goes with the DJI (and also the Moza and all of them). It is great if your gimbal can do wonders but if you cannot just use them it is a bummer. I don't know why everyone except Zhiyun use internal batteries. Even unchangeable internal batteries it is quite stupid. For the Moza the battery is internal but changable you can buy another one to be safe although it is very expensive...
Hey Peter, have you had issues balancing the roll axis on the RSC2? I just got mine (GH5s & 12-35), and even when the roll axis is level, when i lean the camera to either side and let go it moves back to center. All other axis are balanced. I even tried a different lens (Laowa 7.5) and same thing happened. I've seen many people report this issue and no solution.
That is because you will have to move the tilt arm up higher and adjust the base plate forward. I can get perfect balance with the (GH5s & 12-35) setup.
@@PeterMakholm thanks for the response. The issue is that when I do that, the tilt is not balanced. I cannot get both the roll and tilt perfectly balanced. It seems to be one or the other
Im not biased. But I am annoyed at DJI, their gimbals both the RS and RSC were jittery for me, i had to return. I bought the Weebil S and it didnt jitter as much. I really want to believe in the RSC2 i hope they fixed up the algorithms and firmware for more smooth flys like the Zhiyun
I was not fan of the DJI RS as well and The Zhiyun gimbals perform verry well. The Weebill s stil has a smoother workflow when put in the outer positions than the RSC2. If your Weebill S doe's the job for you I would not change it for the RSC2. And with the new 2.01 firmware it works like a charm.
great comparison! Have you ever had any trouble with the tilt axis sliding down sometimes during use even though the screw is tightened? (especially during vortex mode) on the weebil s? Seems to be happening to me right now and I've seen a few online threads talking about this too. Wondering if you have a fix!
Yes, I have had that problem, But I foundt that it was just a matter of tighten the screw a bit more. Sometimes it feels like it is tight, but often I can turn it just that little extra to get it 110% tight and it won't slide down.
I’m having the same issue. Like what Peter said, you really need to force that thing tight. I’m not sure if that’s normal though, and Zhiyun told me to send it back for repair. Someone on FB told me to lift the cameras weight a bit as you tighten it. I haven’t tried that yet. I just ordered a replacement so I’m gonna see if the new one has the same issue
@@afkvisuals hmm. I'll have to try it out, because there's usually not a problem until I start using vortex mode. is it possible for you to try switching the screws from the new to the old one and see if it's the screw causing the issue?
I used to use Weebill s well, but I recently switched to Ronin rsc2. Is there a way to change the trigger button on Ronin rsc2 like the trigger button on Weebill s?
I live really close too the beach and although i am really careful, and all ways clean my gimbal after using it its starting to rust in between the gap on the motors any ideas on how to clean/prevent it? also LOVE your videos bro i don't know what i would do without them!!
Living near the beach and using gear in sandy conditions will always be hard on your gear. i clean my gimbal by airblowing it with i compssed air. There is not much else you can do other than keep it as clean as psooible. And then you will have to add a bit extra in you budget for upgrading gear during the year, because of where you live.
Crc30 is a solvent used on very precise machine tooling to minimize corrosion. I would say wipe some on, let it sit for a few minutes and wipe off the residual. That should do it
@@PeterMakholm UUrig side gimbal handle from your link in description. I wondering whether this can be mounted on rsc2. This one is your favourite handle if I remember correctly.
Very useful video but still not decided. Weebil S is 319 euros here and the RSC2 409. Pro combo 559. I tend towards the RSC but then the pro combo bundle seems te better deal and then the 240 euro difference becomes a huge deal. Then the original SC is available for 249. I dont need it to support a huge 3 KG camera so it is an option. Making it not an easy decision. Not too worried about the fixed battery. Even if after 5 years it has half capacity left it will be more than sufficient for me.
right now the weebil without transmission kit is $639 in canada versus $739 for the same in the dji. Based on support and reviews, should i go for the dji? I want to use an 80d with an 18-35mm sigma
@@mrjwhite i opted for the rsc2 and its doing a great job. Not sure if i should just upgrade to a full frame body but for now, i dont even have the 18-35 cause it seems folly to upgrade lenses on ASP-C right now
I bought the weebill s initially thinking I could save a few bucks but after a week I swapped for the Rsc2. Peter is one of the first youtube reviewers to mention the app. The weebill app is next to unusable and the only way to do a firmware update is through the app. Every time I tried to update, the intermittent Bluetooth connection dropped causing the update to fail. Trust me, spend the extra money for a brand that not only produces high quality products, but good software too (drones and gimbals) Great video Peter!
I have one doubt from very long time is it possible to use weebils or any gimbal gimbal with kitlens (16-50 mm or any other) in any way? it is ok even if i am unable change settings from gimbal I just want to use gimbal for balancing If anyone is aware of my question please help me
You can also buy the DJI Ronin RSC 2 Case without the Pro Combo. I have asked the support and they send me directly an quotation for this great case. It costs 24,37€ without any taxes and shipping costs. For a delivery to germany I paid finanly 35,23€. So I think thats a fair price. But I dont know, why they don‘t put that Case in their Shop like other accessories. 🤷♂️
why all youtubers think the underslung mode of the RSC 2 is "Freaking awesome"? I've done many weddings with it and finally sold it because it is a pain in the butt. I don't care if that looks like a freaking transformer, what I want is speed and reliability. I am not sure if the RSC 2 will be able to handle a stress situation where I need to change constantly underslung and normal mode. Sorry to say, but those who really think that RSC 2 mode is better than the weebill S "Instant"(if you have the quick release) underslung mode, they are either biased or blind.
I "might" not be unprejudiced, as I own an RSC2, but it is funny to me that the fixed battery is considered a deal breaker on the DJI, where the majority do not mind that on a smartphone costing twice the price. If at a certain point the battery would die, I'm confident that it will be replaceable by an official (DJI) repairer. On the other hand, by that time I think that I would decide to buy a new DJI RSC4*...
I watched this video 40 times lol when I was deciding on a gimbal...went with the Weebill S. After about a year of using it and growth, I am now considering the RSC 2 and selling my Weebill S. Great job Peter! Video continues to help in decisions.
Thanks so much for the review Peter! It was really helpful! It was time to upgrade and I went for the RSC 2
I am grateful I found your channel tonight. I watched every video on youtube about these two and others. I also just changed my BH photo order from Weebill to RC2. Looking forward to perhaps your class. Thank You.
I’ve been debating on these two back-and-forth since the release. For some reason, the Weebill S here in Vietnam is only $250 new. A breakdown like this makes me lean more to the DJI, but I also have to think about how much I’m going to really use it
Yes. If you can get the Weebill S for $250 I would go for the weebill s.
@@PeterMakholm Thanks man, decisions....decisions
best comparative video ever! congrat, man
Peter, good review. Your content is great. Thank you! I also have both gimbals. One thing that I really like on the Weebill S is being able to hold down the front trigger when in Pan Follow mode, to get temporarily into Follow mode when you need to change the tilt angle. I like to shoot 95% of the time in Pan Follow mode, and just occasionally switch to follow mode to adjust the tilt angle, and this works great. The RSC 2 does not have this, as the front trigger puts you into Lock mode. To adjust the tilt, the only way to do it is to use the joystick, and I find that to be much harder.
Thanks mate. You are right on that on. It is a geat feature that i will miss when using the RSC2.
Yes, I use this feature a lot.
This is a feature that I regretted switching my weebill s to rsc2 and i am surprised no youtuber mentioned it, its kinda a deal breaker for me but this might be something dji is sticking with going forward and maybe I need to learn and adapt it
Honestly to me Zhiyun is like Android. They are the ones coming up with new and innovative things buttttt they're always buggy until 2 or 3 updates later. DJI is like Apple where they take these new innovative ideas and perfects them and then everyone just suddenly forgets that Android (or Zhiyun) did it first lol
So true! I had the first Weebil S in like 2019 before they took it off the market for a while. Luckily I returned it, was super buggy. Now I have the early 2020 version with the whole image transmission system and it's still kinda clunky. Thinking I should probably dump it for the rsc2
My experience with Apple has been damn horrible. To me apple only works if you are invested in their echo system. But if you use multiple platforms apple really sucks ass.
Uhm, Apple came out LOOOOOONG before Windows. Bill gates ripped off the OS system, and was sued accordingly. They are also limited in how Windows can actually function due to Apple's original copyright... But I get your point.
@@stiknpoke Actually Apple and Microsoft both ripped off Xerox who were developing a ton of GUI and computer interface stuff that never made it to the public. They all sued each other and all of the lawsuits were thrown out. I also think when most people are talking about Apple taking existing ideas and polishing them up they are talking about in the modern era (after iphone came out).
I’ve been debating returning my weebill for the dji since I’m still within the return window. The only thing making me want to keep the weebill is the ability to easy go to underslung mode. It’s so easy. It seems to be a bit of a hassle with the dji regardless of how cool it looks
That is correct. the ability to instantly go in to underslung on the Weebill S is really great.
I haven’t purchased any yet but if I get one I would go for the weebill because of the underslug convenience of going back and forth in the shoot. Who cares how kool it may look for the DJI to change to underslug mode it defeats the purpose in a shoot. Secondly the battery issue in the long run the weebill is just better.
I am a person who uses underslung mode a lot and damn, I hate the rsc2.
Doesn't seem like a close competition to me. The RSC2 is clearly a superior product.
The RSC2 has a lot of advantages but the weebill S is still a great gimbal.
Absolutely WRONG brother!
NO Trust in Ronin, with their 1000th and 1000th of complaints on Dead batteries and no Respond from Company!
Save the hard earned money!
@@alenlenia I actually had to return a weebil s because it came with missing parts. I Contacted their customer service department saying I need those parts & it took them 3 days to just tell me to check again 😂
@@Kaisolostudio I have literally installed the wrong Firmware on my Weebill Lab, and the whole thing stopped working.
you know how long it took for support Center to explain me everything and send me all the required Data!? 10 minutes !
@@alenlenia you just had 1 bad experience
Yeees, i'm waiting so long for this Video. 👍🏼
i KNOW MATE.
Got the Weebill S brand new with warranty for $260. Couldn't find the RSC2 for any less than $500. Considering it was nearly half i was able to get extra hardware and still keep it cheaper including smallrig handle and follow focus.
Awesome comparison, I watched this vdo before closing my deal standing at a shop, your beginning of the vdo dragged me towards DJI but when you mentioned about battery I'm inclined to weebill as it's value of money 👍 thank-you I'm buying weebill S ☺️
Love my Weebill S! Thanks for the vid.
It is also a great gimbal.
the one i have been waiting for 😍😍😍
Yes mate. thanks for your support.
I recently chose the weebill s over the rsc2. The option to replace the batteries of the former means I won't have to throw it away when the batteries die. .
Great stuff, was looking to see if my S5 with the 24-70 pro lens would fit the RSC2, looks like thats a yes, just need to know if its going to be good for weight distribution, bit front heavy. Cheers.
Nice comparison, would help anyone looking at the two gimbals. Well done.
Thanks mate.
Being a gh5 user and usually using manual focus, I'm really curious about what is the best or easiest option to use. Setting focus prior and following at the same distance? Or really have to get an extra device to do the focusing?
with the swappable batteries essentially giving you "unlimited" power and the instant switch to the underslung mode the weebill honestly does make it a hard ass comparison now all Zhiyun needs to do is make a gimbal designed to take out the rsc2
Really great review, nice to mention resell value aswell
Have you had any issues with the side rosette of the weebill s? I had a problem while using a small rig magic arm where the end that I would screw into the rosette to hold my field monitor, and it dented in the side of the battery location, moving my batteries and not being able to turn the weebill on until I took out the magic arm.
Thanks 2020 for your objective reviews and tests. As soon as we go out of the compatibility lists of the different gimbal brands, it is difficult to find infos for a less conventional use : I use a bridge Lumix FZ2000/25000 and I just don't know what gimbal could fully fit in. I thought that the Weebill S could give more space at the back that most other gimbals (Ronin SC, AK2000 C etc...) but you say that the new RSC2 can fit lengthier/ heavier lenses. I am in despair and smoke coming out of my ears. What to choose ? So many materials, so many reviews but very few experimentations. Everyone working with most common (and fantastic set-ups). Could you put your hand on a FZ2500 and try it ? Thanks again for your hard and didactic work
Cool video! 🙏🏻 Thank you!
👉 one question: Whats about a additional receiver for external monitor like Weebill S Video Tranmission Set have?
great video, for me it would have been great if you talked about which one is better/easier/faster to balance and their pros and cons.
Amazing review bro! Thanks!
With the RSC2, do you think my gh5 with the sigma art 1.8 18-35mm lens and metabones speedbooster will fit?
Do you think I should get the weebill s for this setup?
I'm just looking for a lighter gimbal for on the go shoots
Thanks. Great video. I think i will go with the RSC2. Can i install the Manfrotto 323 base plate on top of the RSC2 instead of the arca swiss that you have? I have Manfrotto 200PL in all my cameras and tripods, so it would be nice not to change to arca swiss.
🙌Great test. If you have a moment, I have a few questions.
For newbies, which of the two do you recommend❓ Or the learning curve is similar, so there will be no difference from one to the other, in the long run.
Another question I have is that I have a Panasonic G85 and it seems that with the Weebill S, you can't even use the start/stop button to control the camera. And I think that the DJI can even change the aperture or the ISO, but I'm not sure because they don't give much information about it on the respective websites.
Do you know anything about this❓ can you help me with something❓
Thank you in advance 👍
Great video! I think you made a small typo in the build quality section you have “RSC2” for both on build quality, otherwise amazing quality man!
Hey peter great video as always. Thx for all the hard work. I purchased the weebil s like you recommended and so far I love the product...still I need some help figuring something out. I have a sony a6400, when I mounted sideways to record vertical videos I can hear the motor kind of struggling. Can you point specifically to what settings I have to adjust to fix that issue? [assuming is fixable].
Thank you in advance
Hey. Thanks. First off I would upgrade to 2.01 if you haven done that. Then mount the camera vertical and autotune. I would then adjust the strength of the roll motor so it has as much power as possible and if needed the tilt motor as well. I hope this will help.
@@PeterMakholm well Peter its 01am here in Boston but I am gonna try that right now. Thanks brother. Ill make sure to give you a shout out when I make that vertical video.
Great video Peter. Thank you so much
Always mate.
Nice review, bro. I got a WBS and I am pretty happy with it. Battery remove and lower mode is breaker deal for me. Q: Do you know hoe to add a LUT with the Zhiyun app? Kind of url stuff...
Weebill S , already have some time on its back, Interesting to see Zhiyun will release the follow-up model, and what updates it will have.
Yes very thriled to see what zhiyun will come up with The follow up. I have said what I would like to see, but only the future will tell.
You just like your new toy more, as we all do. ;)
Imo, in a basic configuration, the Weebill S may win the weight battle, because acutally you just need 1 mini tripod and it works fine and you don't need the smallrig mounting thing at all. Same goes with the manfrotto adapter. Take off those 3 things and voilà, the Weebill S is lighter than the RSC2.
Btw, thanks for the great informative videos. 🔥
Yes, that is correct. The expensive smallrig monitor mount is not needed. both of the gimblas are so light, that any extra weight on them won't do any difference when working with them. They both have pros and cons, and as with camera bags the perfect one never excists. The important thing is that they can get the job done.
Hey Peter, great comparison. Was wondering how you found the performance of the RSC2 in inverted mode compared to the Weebill S? Is it possible to go in inverted mode with the switch grips to achieve a mini Ronin M ergonomic?
Yes, that is possible. You will have to buy the twist grip. I haven’t testef it so i don’t know how well et performs.
Great vid mate.
BEAUTIFUL shot at 21:38!
Great video. I have Canon EOS RP & RF35 + RF 24-105 44-7.1 len's will the Weebill support camera & lens/camera control? thanks
I have the rsc2 and raven eye. When I connect my Sony A7R2 with the cables supplied im experiencing a problem. I do get video out of camera into my phone with the ravel eye connection and I can control the record start of the camera but not both at the same time. When I put the gimbal on the video feed goes black and when I put the gimbal in sleep mode the video feed returns. What am I doing wrong?
I was considering the RSC2, BUT the battery being internal cant swap it or anything is a deal breaker. Its fast charging and all and sounds amazing, but when the life time of the battery starts to wear out it doesnt last 14 hrs or worst case scenario wont even charge that what worries me in investing in it. But thats just me idk if someone elses know the internal battery can be changes let me know!
The battery is it weakest point. And it is not possible to switch it out.
that's a lot of writing just to say you broke lol
@@ralphtime and should that matter to you if Im broke or not? Easy to judge without even knowing me at all!
@@ralphtime You brain broke lol
@@PeterMakholm hey Peter! putting you up to date with my decision on the gimbal. I ended up buying the DJI RS 2 Pro Combo I just got it yesterday so lets see how it goes from there 🙌🏻🔥
thx for the vid. Will you be making one comparing their tracking? I was never able to make the Weebill work for more than a few seconds. I've heard that the Ronin has better tracking.
I will not compare them, but the reven eye is in an other league. it tracks perfect. I will do a video of the raven eye.
nice comparison.
in case we update rsc2 pro kit to rs2, accessories can be re-used i suppose ?
does ninja v fit rsc2 as you show on vertical secondary handle ?
where do you put a rode microphone ?
for a z6ii + 24-70 F/2.8 and ninja v, is it crazy to buy rs2 pro kit ? a pity it is not smaller like a weebil-s :-)
is it interesting to have pro kit ? do you use it ? as beginner we's buy the whole kit but in practice, in a wedding,..; do we have time to swith z6i from photo mode to gimbal and install transmitter, focus ring, smarphone on smalrig handle,... ?
My main concern about buying RSC2 is the irreplaceable battery, everything else seems perfect. So one question is ...will it work while charging? If its work then its possible to attach powerbank for possibility of endless shooting
Thanks for this great review. I am planning to buy Sony a7iii, do you think RSC2 is okay for it? And please if you would recommend 1 lense for pictures and videos for this camera, what would it be?
Thanks, Yes the RSC2 Is perfect for your setup.
DJI RSC2: geni.us/AEsDUPa
As a lens I would go for a 24-70mm f2,8 amzn.to/2OZgT1b
A cheaper option could be: Sigma 24-70mm f2,8 amzn.to/3pL68fD
Or a Sony24-105mm f4 amzn.to/37wPTMK
Great video as always. I love your videos to the point and no BS. BTW experience is ie not ei. LOL
Thanks.
Hi man, first of all great video.
But the cap that you wear is so DOPE, can you name the brand or put link please
Weebill S or RSC2 in 2022? I cant decide. Also considering a used Ronin S.
HALP!
Thank you😎
Weebill S right now $339 in Best Buy, Thanks for the Videos!
That is a great price, thanks for sharring it mate.
Thanks mate. Great video. I did choose right the other day 😉
Dope, looking forward to see what you can create with it. What about shooting some footage togeather soon.
@@PeterMakholm Yes, we need to go out soon and shoot!
@@camillahyllebergphotography Fedt lad os finde ud af noget.
Hey Peter, thank you for a great video. Do you know if the RSC2 can handle the good old GH5+SB+SIgma 18-35 combo? Does it fit perfectly?
Yes mate. It definitely can. It easily takes my S1H + 24-70mm. So no worries there.
@@PeterMakholm Thank you! One follow up question - I saw another youtuber complaining that after you calibrate everything, if you remove the camera for some handheld and then put it back, you gotta recalibrate it, otherwise you experience odd jerks. Did you experience that at all? (th-cam.com/video/jOjJE5uGz-M/w-d-xo.html)
I am wary that the gears end up being loose or even the connections fail with this DJI system ... Did you tray the Aircross 2 ?? Great video, as always.
Thanks, no I havent used the Aircross 2.
Hey man I’m gng with a6400 and the sigma primes the DC DN trio which gimbal would u recommend
What handle do you use for RSC2? Thanks
Will the Weebill S hold the A7iii and the Tamron 17-28mm or Sigma 28-70mm without any problems?
Which is better for beginners? I’ll be shooting a Sony a73.
Does anyone experience a little bit of inconsistency with the follow focus motor? Like a slight jitter? DJI QC is garbage and their window of return (15 days) is very short. Trying to see if I'm the only person who got shafted.
Hi Peter, what about the active tracking on both of these gimbals? I have seen DJI marketing that feature but is it really something which can be used in the real world?
Yes it is better on the dji.
Hey Peter, I have a question that's a little outside of the topic regarding this video. I'm wondering if there's a way for the Weebill S to connect with the GH5 to control aperture, shutter speed and ISO levels while the camera is connected to a monitor? Without having the camera lcd screen from going blank? Is there a workaround to do this that you know of?
hi Jeric. No as soon as you add hdmi and have the camera contorl cable connected the screen will go balck and there are no way to fix it.
Whyy Panasonic...
@@anonymouse7074 Why not? Have you used Panasonic's a lot? Do you know how good they "also" are? Not everybody wants or needs Sony, Canon, Nikon, Fuji...although I would like one for lower-light work. Then again, the GH5S is tremendous in low-light. I shoot mostly nature/wildlife/landscape videos and the 2x crop factor and built-in 2.6x telextender get me long-lens shots you can't even touch on FF cameras. All a matter of preference...
hi what handlle do you use for the weebill-s ...many thanks
It is the Zhiyun TransMount Mini Dual Grip Lite. You can get it at the zhiyun store. store.zhiyun-tech.com?ref:MTY4ODAyLjEyMjAuMTY5NzY5LlQ
Great comparison of these two gimbals. But now do I stay with my Weebil S or throw it up on ebay and upgrade to the RSC2? LOL
Yes, that is the big question. If your weebill s does the job for you and it works perfect, I would not change it out. Unless you just wan't a new gimbal.
Weebill S sucks, worst gimbal I ever used. Micro Jitters are everywhere no matter how many times you balance or calibrate, especially if your camera doesn't have IBIS. Do long walks and you'll se what I'm talking about
I will agree that it has some microjitters. All electronic gimbals has that, but some more that others. What gimbal are you shooting on.
@@PeterMakholm I just ordered RSC2 cause I had better experience with DJI, how would you compare weebill S vs rsc2 in smoothness?
Most useful comment ever.
Micro jitters dont matter! it can be easily removed in Post!
i as a producer, would pay 200 bucks and get a second hand Weebills and get the job done!
i have Zero trust in Ronin after all my bad experience
@@alenlenia although you might be a producer I bet you never walked filming a straight hour with a gimbal with no cuts, try it with weebill s and I bet you won't be able to get rid of all those microjitters
just got my rsc2 used ot for about 5 minutes will say there is a bit of a learning curve it seems way more sensitive than my weebill also feeling a little motor vibration here and there from the roninand it feels heavier...but my weebil seems to be slowly falling apart..gonna get mor practice with the roning see how it does
does the rsc2 come with that handle on the side? or is that with the pro?
Being that video reviews are just a guild rather than gospel, the features that’s needed for the individual should be the only deciding factors. The quick underslung mode and swappable batteries are a plus for me.
Great video. I have and use the WeeBill S. The 12hours battery life is only a dream never ever you get that much especially if you use a focusing motor or you give voltage to the cam. it might only be 2-3 hours BUT you can change the battery I have 5 sets (5 x 2) so it is no problem. With the DJI I don't know it might be problematic as well (I think so) and than you have to charge. All other observation are real BUT the DJI is a brand new gimball and the WeeBill S is old now so we might get an even better from Zhiyun soon. All of them will improve as time goes by. The WeeBill is a great tool the footage is super and it is smaller which is a plus I think... (and the accessories also cheaper I think like image transmission system etc...)
Yes, I agree that getting 12 hours out of a set of batteries is not possible, and therefore I also preffer to have a gimbal that has swopeble batteries. The internal battery could be a problem for the RSC2. On the Ronin M there are problems with some older batteris.
I beleive that we soon will se a follow up for the Weebill S.
@@PeterMakholm Absolutely. I agree if I would buy now I would also probably choose the DJI... BUT the battery problem is a real concern, I usually have to change battery after 2-3 hours of heavy usage with the Zhiyun... which is not that much. And i am sure it also goes with the DJI (and also the Moza and all of them). It is great if your gimbal can do wonders but if you cannot just use them it is a bummer. I don't know why everyone except Zhiyun use internal batteries. Even unchangeable internal batteries it is quite stupid. For the Moza the battery is internal but changable you can buy another one to be safe although it is very expensive...
Top! Thanks again 👌stay safe! Hugs from Lisbon
thank you.
Are you sure you can't send the RSC2 back to DJI for a factory battery replacement?
Hey Peter, have you had issues balancing the roll axis on the RSC2? I just got mine (GH5s & 12-35), and even when the roll axis is level, when i lean the camera to either side and let go it moves back to center. All other axis are balanced. I even tried a different lens (Laowa 7.5) and same thing happened. I've seen many people report this issue and no solution.
That is because you will have to move the tilt arm up higher and adjust the base plate forward. I can get perfect balance with the (GH5s & 12-35) setup.
@@PeterMakholm thanks for the response. The issue is that when I do that, the tilt is not balanced. I cannot get both the roll and tilt perfectly balanced. It seems to be one or the other
Im not biased. But I am annoyed at DJI, their gimbals both the RS and RSC were jittery for me, i had to return. I bought the Weebil S and it didnt jitter as much. I really want to believe in the RSC2 i hope they fixed up the algorithms and firmware for more smooth flys like the Zhiyun
I was not fan of the DJI RS as well and The Zhiyun gimbals perform verry well. The Weebill s stil has a smoother workflow when put in the outer positions than the RSC2. If your Weebill S doe's the job for you I would not change it for the RSC2. And with the new 2.01 firmware it works like a charm.
DJI RSC 2 GIMBAL
great comparison! Have you ever had any trouble with the tilt axis sliding down sometimes during use even though the screw is tightened? (especially during vortex mode) on the weebil s? Seems to be happening to me right now and I've seen a few online threads talking about this too. Wondering if you have a fix!
Yes, I have had that problem, But I foundt that it was just a matter of tighten the screw a bit more. Sometimes it feels like it is tight, but often I can turn it just that little extra to get it 110% tight and it won't slide down.
I’m having the same issue. Like what Peter said, you really need to force that thing tight. I’m not sure if that’s normal though, and Zhiyun told me to send it back for repair. Someone on FB told me to lift the cameras weight a bit as you tighten it. I haven’t tried that yet. I just ordered a replacement so I’m gonna see if the new one has the same issue
@@afkvisuals ah I'll give that a try! 🙏🏻
@@herokme0 I just tried and it didn’t work. I also just tried my new weebill and it locks perfectly. If you can I’d try and replace it
@@afkvisuals hmm. I'll have to try it out, because there's usually not a problem until I start using vortex mode. is it possible for you to try switching the screws from the new to the old one and see if it's the screw causing the issue?
which one is best for nikon z6 24-70 f4
Question, I plan on buying camera but can DJI 2 attach a galaxy s9?
As in stabilize a phone not a camera?
Bo. You will have to buy a camera gimbal. Like the dji osmo.
Alright folks its a long video today. but you asked for my opinion and here it is.
Thank you very much, exactly what I needed for my decision :)
@@jannikdublasky6142 So what are you going for
@@PeterMakholm going to get the RSC2 and try to step up my filmmaking with more movement and more intereseting shots :)
Great video.
Greatest GIMBALS BATTLE of the year Crane 3LAB,Crane2s and DJI RC Combo (Particularly their wireless Image Transmission). Please do the review.
INTERESTING
The difference here is more like 90€. I am not sure it’s worth it, specially if you go for the pro package. Any thoughts?
I used to use Weebill s well, but I recently switched to Ronin rsc2. Is there a way to change the trigger button on Ronin rsc2 like the trigger button on Weebill s?
Hi. No there's not. I wish there where.
How is your experience with the RSC2 compared to the weebill S so far?
In my city the weebill a cost 250$ and rsc2 430$. Does the price increase worth?
I live really close too the beach and although i am really careful, and
all ways clean my gimbal after using it its starting to rust in between
the gap on the motors any ideas on how to clean/prevent it?
also LOVE your videos bro i don't know what i would do without them!!
Living near the beach and using gear in sandy conditions will always be hard on your gear. i clean my gimbal by airblowing it with i compssed air.
There is not much else you can do other than keep it as clean as psooible. And then you will have to add a bit extra in you budget for upgrading gear during the year, because of where you live.
Crc30 is a solvent used on very precise machine tooling to minimize corrosion. I would say wipe some on, let it sit for a few minutes and wipe off the residual. That should do it
@@misterunfocused7818 awesome thank you!!
Hi , I can’t connect with my weebill S and Sony a6400 using cable and showing check the connected device on camera screen.
I have heard about this problem before, I don't know why it does that.
@@PeterMakholm It’s solved now I just turn off my camera and opened again after connecting. It’s worked.
Isn't there any way to replace battery in RSC 2?
Hi Peter. Can you mount this handle to rsc2 with no problem at all? I thought that any handle for RSC2 has to be NATO mount.
What handle do you mean. Both of the side handles in the video fit on the RSC2.
@@PeterMakholm UUrig side gimbal handle from your link in description. I wondering whether this can be mounted on rsc2. This one is your favourite handle if I remember correctly.
Very useful video but still not decided.
Weebil S is 319 euros here and the RSC2 409. Pro combo 559. I tend towards the RSC but then the pro combo bundle seems te better deal and then the 240 euro difference becomes a huge deal. Then the original SC is available for 249. I dont need it to support a huge 3 KG camera so it is an option. Making it not an easy decision. Not too worried about the fixed battery. Even if after 5 years it has half capacity left it will be more than sufficient for me.
Thanks again 👌 Top!
thank you mate.
B&h has the weebill s for 339, the rsc2 is 499. They're almost not even in the same price range at a difference of 160
Danke aus Deutschland. TOP Video!
Thanks mate.
very impressive & useful conten
right now the weebil without transmission kit is $639 in canada versus $739 for the same in the dji. Based on support and reviews, should i go for the dji? I want to use an 80d with an 18-35mm sigma
A friend of mine has the exact same set up and he just switch to the RSC 2 because the weebil was struggling.
@@mrjwhite i opted for the rsc2 and its doing a great job. Not sure if i should just upgrade to a full frame body but for now, i dont even have the 18-35 cause it seems folly to upgrade lenses on ASP-C right now
Does the weebil s support canon 200d with a 50mm prime ? Or the weight too much to handle
Yes it will fit on the Weebill S, but I don't know if camera control is supported.
@@PeterMakholm thanks for ur reply bro ...😃😃but the footage will be smooth rite ? 😅😅While using 200d with this gimbal
I bought the weebill s initially thinking I could save a few bucks but after a week I swapped for the Rsc2. Peter is one of the first youtube reviewers to mention the app. The weebill app is next to unusable and the only way to do a firmware update is through the app. Every time I tried to update, the intermittent Bluetooth connection dropped causing the update to fail. Trust me, spend the extra money for a brand that not only produces high quality products, but good software too (drones and gimbals)
Great video Peter!
It's basically a 10 year old car against a brand new car. Go figure.
Ahhh. 10 years a bit over the top. The weebill s came out in oktober last year, but I understand your point.
Weebill is the GO
i hate the hinge design, style over function. Will there be a new weebill soon with better build?
I am pretty sure that we soon will se an updated version of the Weebill S.
I have one doubt from very long time is it possible to use weebils or any gimbal gimbal with kitlens (16-50 mm or any other) in any way? it is ok even if i am unable change settings from gimbal
I just want to use gimbal for balancing
If anyone is aware of my question please help me
What camera are you shooting on. As long as you can balance the camera setup on the gimbal you can use any lens.
@@PeterMakholm i am using sony 6100 camera
@@PeterMakholm thanks a lot for the quick response
You can also buy the DJI Ronin RSC 2 Case without the Pro Combo. I have asked the support and they send me directly an quotation for this great case. It costs 24,37€ without any taxes and shipping costs. For a delivery to germany I paid finanly 35,23€.
So I think thats a fair price. But I dont know, why they don‘t put that Case in their Shop like other accessories. 🤷♂️
Ahhh that is great info. Because the case is very well made.
Can we choose Ronin sc2 for sony a6300
Yes. I can't see why not.
Weebill S for Sure !!!
What things can rsc2 do that webill s can't?
It can take s larger camera. And the the stability is better.
thanks for the video man! i wouldve loved some timestamps for each of the categories to browse the long video easier
Yes good idea. Thanks
why all youtubers think the underslung mode of the RSC 2 is "Freaking awesome"? I've done many weddings with it and finally sold it because it is a pain in the butt. I don't care if that looks like a freaking transformer, what I want is speed and reliability. I am not sure if the RSC 2 will be able to handle a stress situation where I need to change constantly underslung and normal mode.
Sorry to say, but those who really think that RSC 2 mode is better than the weebill S "Instant"(if you have the quick release) underslung mode, they are either biased or blind.
I "might" not be unprejudiced, as I own an RSC2, but it is funny to me that the fixed battery is considered a deal breaker on the DJI, where the majority do not mind that on a smartphone costing twice the price.
If at a certain point the battery would die, I'm confident that it will be replaceable by an official (DJI) repairer. On the other hand, by that time I think that I would decide to buy a new DJI RSC4*...