Giddes Chalamanda deserve respect and recognition as well. This is a true indication that there are lot talents in Africa, Malawi 🇲🇼 to be particular thet needs to be recognised and acknowledged. Big up Agide 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Same title, similar message, different genres, two different great artists who selflessly shared their talent with the world. Ours is to love and support them.
It’s good that Africa can claim Buffalo Soldier but we are also the Buffalo Soldiers that was taken from Africa to the heart of the Caribbean. So it’s OK for Bob to take it and make it creative and Sing it. Jamaicans are very creative. And we got all our rhythm from Africa. One Love.
Trees never grow from leaves to root, in another word african were forced to jamaica, otherwise other trees grown upside down. Correct knowledge or else back to school cuz this piece of history already been done n not even genius can change it!
Chalamanda Buffalo Soldier was foolishness. I don’t know how anyone can compare both songs and believe them to be the same. Everyone here should go on TH-cam and listen to the banana split song that was recorded in the 60s.
@@thetruth3775 just listen to the message don't just talk only, Bob was a big singer so he couldn't sang in the same rhythm as it's prohibited in the music industry
Wow never thought of the similarities in both artists, but Bob just polished it from Gides because of the availability of the instruments used while Chalamanda sang traditionally, kudos to these two great Africans
Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier sounds more like a part II song from Giddes Chalamanda's one. He begins telling the story of a child who dreamed to go to America and Bob Marley ends it up telling the consequences of that, one of them which is ending up forgetting your roods and live your life fighting for the wrong side and against your own motherland. From Giddes Chalamanda it was a dream sharing song but from Bob Marley it was a warning song.
Nothing on debate can change the direction of this idea... Infact this is the third understanding of the song as sang already from the two legends. Giddes @Foresight Bob's @Insight The overall look of comparisons brought us @Hindsight. "Am ALLOWANCE" from Nigeria. Long live AFRICANS and AFRICA.
It could be true how many things that us Africans have done first but because they are not recorded and same one up there in Europe does it and keeps it on record they become founders e.g David Livingstone when he came to northern Rhodesia he found people who lived along the Zambezi river and took him to the falls along the river where he claimed to have discovered the falls and named Victoria falls....Giddis sung that song first you where not there...🤔
What do you mean Bob Marley perfected it? What a heck is that? The original cannot be perfected, think my friend! You cannot tell a musician how to sing his first original song! Everybody could be perfecting any song if there is no law of such as copyright! Think, he stole the copyright from the African man, I am mad about not giving the reverence to THE AFRICAN MAN!
@@francissakala6367 What do you mean Bob Marley perfected it? What a heck is that? The original cannot be perfected, think my friend! You cannot tell a musician how to sing his first original song! Everybody could be perfecting any song if there is no law of such as copyright! Think, he stole the copyright from the African man, I am mad about not giving the reverence to THE AFRICAN MAN!
It's very clear here that the song was first done by Giddes Chalamanda despite Bob Marley's version which came later and was more popular during our age. They both may not have sung it the exact way or with the same exact words but that doesn't matter. Thanks.
It's clear that every artist inspires himself from others artists...but it's better to give a little percentage of copyrights to the artists who inspire you...but it's not so easy to do, blessings to both and to you all
a beautiful song done by two different legends!!I wish Bob Marley was still alive so we could have them do a remix. maaaaaaan that would have been so great to watch and listen to!!!!
When that song was recorded in Malawi broadcasting corporation (the only recorder & broadcaster owned by state at that time) it was the time of African revolutions where by pan Africanism was main focus. After Giddes Chalamanda sang it on MBC, the song did not take him far just because it was in English, (moreover a little broken one because he didn't go far with education ), and MBC refused to promote it. The main issue was that it was in the early years of african revolutions of kicking out colonialism, so leaders at that time focused on promoting local songs sang in local languages. But for giddes's song (Buffalo soilder), it had already went viral at that time without him knowing. In early 2000 some guys hunted him down and found him suffering in gheto, so he was asked to re-record some of his vintage songs, the first song which he remembered was "Buffalo soilder ", and he re-recorded in the same lyrics and pattern he composed in 1973 & released in 1974. Let's honour him as he is not the only person who paid heavy price due to copyright problems, but also respect should go to Bob for his version of reggae. The question is, why there is no records or cassette for this track to prove the copyright issue ? . Guys, it's long story, but to cut it short, I can say, Malawi was under one party system which monopolized everything, artists & recording companies were told on what to do. Like I said, upon MBC's refusal to promote him, Giddes ended up playing his music in hotels, entertainment centers, etc (mostly in Zambia & Zimbabwe), but not recording it for business because he was poor and not very famous like other early musicians who I know.
Growing up in Malawi, i grew up listening to both songs and one reason I underrated Giddes Chalamanda was my thought that he got inspiration from Bob Marley. I have profound respect for Bob such that I can sing along almost all of his songs, but if Giddes was the first to record then he has gained 10 times more respect from me. While on that note I think the only place where we can get the evidence to support Giddes date of his recording is the Malawi Broadcasting Corporation, MBC. In those days in Malawi there was no private recording studios. Musicians those days were recorded at MBC, and we would listen to their recordings from the then only one radio station only. If the chronology of the recordings of the two songs as claimed are right then we have undeniable truths that Giddes Chalamanda inspired by Bob Marley referring to the song called Bufallo Soldier. It happens quite a lot in Music and most of great songs are never inspired by one person. Thanks to Uwomano for the link: th-cam.com/video/fwyxOZM_r4w/w-d-xo.html
Many songs are written by someone else but are only made big when famous individuals take it to another level.However credit must always be given to the original piece.
Giddes is the best since he is the one who started recording the song first. He is gifted & creative , i salute mr Chalamanda than those famous guys who did it at second hand 😂😂😂
and i also do remember that those days Kamuzu era Mbc could not allow copied music from outside but only orignal songs from the artists themselves. with this point am so sure that it was Gides who SANG FIRST
It was the native Indians who first came up with the words “Buffalo Soldiers.” Bob Marley got his inspiration from the history of the war that had black slaves fighting on the frontline and defeated the Indians. Bob Marley don’t sing about foolishness. His song is totally different from Chalamanda’s. What was Chalamanda singing about?
Bob Marley recorded Buffalo Soldier after he visited Zimbabwe 🇿🇼. In which Giddes was already known with the song. Marley enjoyed the song because of his reputation international. Nevertheless both Giddes and Bob Marley are singing a story that was written in the book about Buffalo Soldiers
One of my favorite songs . I remembered dancing to that song . In my beautiful isle of spice Grenada . Bob Marley is a legend . I will always love him and his music .
My concern is ... how many of these new generation artists will have their songs played after 44 years? 🎵 Kudos to the Legends, *Thank you for everything* .
of arcourse Sam i conquar with the artist of new generation.sing much different to old musicians. Newly musicians their song cant last for years.thanx very much. Bosco from uganda
@@kateetejohnbosco4463 oh, this is exactly what the very old ones thought about the old artists with all their electric guitars and stuff - every generation has a new way of expressing and every generation thinks they are the bestest... :-) during the recent years i have been revisiting my old musical heroes, because i wanted to show my son a few of them - it started in the late 60s with pop rock music of that time - i read thousands of comments and under every single 60s band or artist i could read: this band was underrated and far ahead of their time! they only produced the best albums in the world! so i went on, 70s music, almost the same - there i learned: who doesn´t like disco has no taste! 80s (which i didn´t like so much), the fans also claim they had the best music - 90s hiphop, the fans even claim they had the REAL music (which all fans say b.t.w.), although their music consists mainly of samples from older music... well, i also like 30s/40s music and there: this artist plays all modern musicians in the ground! a.s.o. and even when i went to classical music, the first comment i read was this: we got to be aware that all so called pop music is nothing but dross! it´s ridiculous, because it shows the arrogance of the listeners, like: "i have the best taste i am a menber of the best generation" - it may be nice to feel that way, but it has not much to do with reality - time will show... when techno started in the 90s (it started earlier, but became famous then) no one thought it would last long - now we have 2022 and it´s still there and prospering well... hey bosco, thank you for answering, i appreciate that yout took the time... btw. i have a record with "aluar horns" from uganda on it and that is among the most impressive music i have encountered in my life - do you know it? is this music still made today? i send love and greetings from germany
@@kateetejohnbosco4463 do you happen to know dr. namadingo from malawi? he is a new artist, and i think he is just brilliant! he even sang together with giddes - he was here in germany in 2018 not 30 kms from where i live - so sad i din´t know him then - i hope he will come again some day, then i will go to his concert... :-)
One inspired the other. No coincidence here. Get the chronology right to part the two singers. Yet Bob Marley, whatever his position in the chronology, made the song famous and worldwide as a Reggae beat. I personally think Chalamanda is the creator of the song.
Chilamanda had song "buffalo soldier" the lyrics and context are different so they never be the same song,it would be saying anyone sings about love is copying the first person to sing about love.
@@mellow_keys8618 🤣🤣will I call it ignorance or pure lies. Ask of Fela Anikulapokuti, Ebenezer Obey, Onyeka Onwenu, Maria Make e etc. When were you born by the way
@@ikemolokwu5123 it doesn’t matter at least I have the ears to tell the difference between things. You clearly have no knowledge at all on music or it’s technology. The African man is probably from where you’re from so you’re defending this with your life. While we live in a world where most of life’s questions can be answered in your hands you strongly believe that track was recorded in 1974 with digital instruments, a Roland keyboard that didn’t even exist till the late 80s with digital drums. All of the technology in the African man’s song were in development in 1978 when Bob was recording Buffalo soldier. Go listen to recorded music in Africa from 1974.
Totally agree, Giddes version has a tradittional African beat whereas Bob's has Reggae beat. What Bob did was turn the song around using Gede's original influence and make it a masterpiece. Being a designer I often get influence from previous ideas or add two or three together and come out with something that substantially improves the original concept. For instance, designed a retro motor home using influences from Lesley Green, the Architect who designed the London Underground, Kate Winslet roof trrrace form a scene on the bow of Titanic, ZZ Top for an idea on their Eliminator album and European Airstream caravans plus original idess ending up with a retro/surf/deco theme. In the same way music is often sub-conciously or deliberately copied and always will be. We should applaud new variations of music ~ of course giving credit to those who gave initial influence in some way, so they too may be acknowledged. It is not necessarily the reward that is important, but the accolation as opposed to blatent theft which is important to the originator.
This wasn’t recorded in 1974 the piano is clearly some type of Roland,digitized drums give it up too easy. Maybe the man mean it’s was recorded in 1994 not 1974. Go and google what music from Africa recorded in 1974 sound like.
@@mellow_keys8618 this is not the one that was recorded in 1974. There is another one with a banjo only by the same Giddes. This is the one that was recorded in 2015
@@limbanimagomero6588 there is no African version from the 70s on the internet meaning it didn’t exist. There are multiple recorded versions of Buffalo soldier by Bob nothing else online. Send the link.
@@mellow_keys8618 You're right there's nothing on the Internet but you may wish to know that we grew up listening to the song on the radio here in Malawi. This is a matter of fact and I will not be able to argue further
A person has to be deaf to say that similarity between Bob Marley's version and Giddes song is only in the title. Bob Marley copied Giddes even where he sang 'Yoi yoi yo'.
Bob Marley’s son entitled War ,it’s a speech of Haile Selassie addressing the League of Nations . Bob is a creative man ,so when he borrowed from others he packaged it in his own way that .
It’s hard for me to believe that a man from Africa would sing about Buffalo soldier, this is more of a protest song if anything, because this is what Bob Marley does and that is what makes him so famous.
And that buffalo soldier is African no doubt about it. Even the reggae protesters like Bob Marley and Mighty Culture were much defending Africans. Their origin
No songwriter would say these songs are similar. Two distinct songs. The melodies, melodic structure, lyrical themes are all different with the only similarity being the phrase Buffalo Soldier as the chorus. However Bob Marley's chant Woyoyo is the same melody (only four bars) as that of a children's show theme song from USA in 1968, Banana Splits. You can listen to it here on TH-cam. Nonetheless a great song by Bob Marley released posthumously.
People, I know its hard to think that the great Bob Marley could possibly have picked a song from an African in an obscure country of Malawi. The truth is, he did. Chalamada's songs were already being heard internationally in the 1960s. My concern is that Chalamanda should have been acknowledged and paid some loyalties. Its not late, this can be brought to the attention of exparts to analyse the two pieces and claims can be made.
Bob never released this track. It was released posthumously. You’ll need to speak to Chris Blackwell about that. Bob could clearly have been inspired. But we have to be very careful when it comes to Bob’s songs. A lot of his songs that he released in the 1970s, he’d actually written and sang earlier versions in the 1960s. There’s no telling whether Bob Marley actually wrote Buffalo soldier in 1978 or 1968. But Bob obviously listened to African music. And King Sporty would likely have listened to African songs as well. Personally, I feel that either Bob or King Sporty or both, had heard Giddes Chalamanda’s song and used it as a foundation for the more popular version.
@@bajebajan6937 Me not knowing the reason for Buffalo Soldiers does not in anyway take away the strong possibly that Bob and any other writers of Bob Marley's "Buffalo Soldier" song listened and took inspiration from Giddies song.
@@mihjibiggschaka4010 a Buffalo Solider was an actual term that White Americans gave Black Soliders who they recruited to fight against Native First Nation people. The term existed before both song writers but keep reaching. Someone came and Said listen hear that beat its not Bob's and you run with it ... the song was released after Bob died so beats could have been added but history fails many when they assume the present is all there is
I have come to realise that everything popularised by Jamaica and recognised as Jamaican, and part of its unique culture, is always claimed by one African country or another as originating from them! Why can’t they respect that Jamaicans are very talented in their own right and develop things in their own unique way.
Hello my brother, there are similarities between both songs. I prefer Bob Marley's version because Bob Marley upgraded that song to its full potential. However, back then, I'm not quite sure whether their were laws in place in order to discourage plagiarisation. In today's day and age, the original singer of that song could have earned compensation as a result of plagiarism.
We have to agree that Bob Marley played a smart game here and he perfected the melody in a different genre ( raggae)... it's a same words like " buffalo soldier and oyio oyio that a smart musician and composer wud tell he twisted abit ...wow these two songs are good and I could listen to both of them.... raggae has some roots from our old afro beats ..the connection is huge...
The beats were totally different. Reasons where different. bob was talking about history, giddes was talking about his American dream. What we should remember is buffalo soldier and woyoo are both universal words. It might be coincidence or bob head it accidentally and incorporate it into his works. The good thing is that both songs are good and both of them are Africans, one love!
The Buffalo Soldier Bob Marley's song relates to the historical Buffalo Soldiers of old 1800s America. Giddes Chalamanda's song does not. Far as the melody and the vocalizations sounds more like a case of inspiration and not stealing.
Bob took it from chalamanda Bob polished it l am a Bob FAN but let's speak the truth the yrs difference shows it clear It's not a big deal The known guys respects older once and they copy them it a kind of showing a respect It happened to Manudebango the great musician of l think cameroun Micheal Jackson copied SOULMAKOSA and polished it These Stars has ears to hear something no one sees nor hear
@@princeoseitutu9899 Bob marley did not take anything, you don't know anything about music. The vocals, the message ,the beat are completely different. The only similarities in the two songs are the name.
@@islandpatriot2941 @Island Patriot You're blatently bold and very bias. This is not a war. Thankfully these are two very talented originators in their own rights. Your dishonesty has no need here. These two versions in various similar parts, could even work overlaying each other. I respect Bob Marley's work for carrying elder Giddes Chalamanda's work same as was from his ancestors roots of Africa, further afield than it's origin in 1974. Thanks JZ - Joossa👌🏾
@@cheddi6590 Yea, if this is not a war stop then accusing other people of stealing someone else's work. Thank JZ, yea there is a Jay-Z already, what he existed before that one too. You guys need to come up with your sh*t and stop trying to pawn off other people Sh*t as your own.These are very serious accusations, did you know that.
I guess Africans don’t have ears to tell apart what the 70s and 90s sound like. Bob Marleys version was the original. Go listen to what African music recorded In The 70s sound like
Giddes was exceptional & obviously wrote the song back in his day so full credit to him & no doubt Bob also very exceptional & talented heard it, liked it & adapted it to a raggae beat & tweaked it somewhat whilst giving it greater exposure to the world audience thru his popularity...I believe we owe both credit for what has come of it internationally since then...obviously
Dont undermine Malawians. It can sound poor ,coz of the poor instruments of 1970s in those poor studios that time in Malawi but Giddes is the best ,gifted man, creative & strong man of that time till now ( He is trending ,even young people loves Him here). So big up to Giddes Chalamanda ,the one who sung the original piece.
Same or similar Inspirations do come to different people in different locations at different times , this is the Almighty works One world One Creator God's Great
I don't care about who recorded first,what I care about is who made it impactful and bob marley made it meaningfull and so big so you shouldn't spread hatred just listen to the beat, message and enjoy
Giddes Chalamanda's claims are right but Bob showed a great talent by taking the song to another level and making it more popular,I think the credit should be given to Chalamanda coz he is great talent,a powerful song writer
Shakira sang "Waka Waka" and she claimed it's her inspiration when she came from the barn, and yet this song origin is Dom cameroun Africa we sang in the 80's during high school games
Creativity and Delivery are Two different things, what Bob Marley delivered is a version that was acceptable to the whole world, which has brought Reggae upfront, all over the world, and musicians who creat reggae songs work to make the delivery as closely as possible, I have earned my self a little name singing Buffalo Soldier n getting the whole crowd to sing along, I am GREATFUL to Bob Marley he has opened our creative minds, where ever he is may he have all the PEACE he wished for us on Earth
Thank you Richard in pointing out this interesting sequel. Both songs are born out of the African soldiers of the 10th Cavalry Regiment of the United States Army. The melody may be different but the notation is the same. Bear in mind that these two singers are from different parts of the world and therefore will sing in two different accents. As they sing the "oyoyo" part, or would be written "Oh yo yo" it had to suit in how both languages are spoken to suit the Reggie rhythm and to suit the Malawi rhythm - a mixture of local and South African jive known in the Southern Africa. So, to me the song is the same. Now, I don't know how the music industry works but if Giddes recorded his tune in 1974, and Marley's tune was released in 1983 the definitely Giddes Chalamanda can claim to be the first to release this tune. My opinion!
The lyrics and meaning of the songs are totally different. The rhythm and melody are also different. Chalamanda cannot even proved that his song was recorded in 1974 to begin with. Now, Chalamanda already has a team of lawyers around him, why do you think they have not even asked TH-cam or the Marley estate to cease playing Buffalo Soldier? I can tell you that the Marley’s would have Chalamanda’s Buffalo soldier removed from TH-cam if was even sound anywhere near Bob’s Buffalo Soldier.
I would be very very surprised if I see anyone arguing and getting angry about this. I do not think it really matters who did what! What matters most was that both renditions were so beautifully sung. God bless this both LEGENDS. Peace and love ✌🏾
The original writer was king sporty base in Miami. The song was written from civil war in America. King sporty song it and gave Bob Marley sing and release.
I believe Giddes' song is the original. And -- I'm a proud Jamaican and I idolize Bob Marley. However, I love both men and their invaluable contributions to music and the world at large. 💯🇯🇲
Africa is the source of many musical rythm you can discover in different World cultures. Bob Marley was always pride to cry his african origin and he sing for Zimbabwe and also visite the rhodesia region 🤷🏾♂️ Giddes and many others african traditional singers wrote and create musical rythms, but nobody knows them, because we are poor.
Are you saying the genre of Reggae originated in Africa? Last I checked Bob grew up poor and worked his butt off to reach international status and legend.
It's clear the genuine song is from Chalamanda improved by Bob Marley to international scene. It's said Marley paid a visit to Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 once may be inspired there. One love, big up to both legend
Interesting how Giddes didn't sue for copyright infringement. I can remember in the 80's, Manu Dibango sued Michael Jackson on Wanna Be Startin Somethin'...just over the line: ma-ma-se ma-ma-sa ma-ma-ko-saa
Oh boy! Let's give both of these men credit. No hate. Just let us love both. You should try and promote Giddes C so more people familiar with his music. We black people are Africans. We don't need to fight against each other. If Giddes is the first author, my hats off to him. If Bob get ideas and change up some lyrics and rhythm, just promote them both. Back then in the days, BMI and ASCAP didn't care about international and careless. They just wanted to rob black musicians. All they care about is filling their pockets and giving black musicians peanuts. Big up both artists.
Just like "War" a song inspired from King haely Selasiah, this one as so modified makes Bob Marley even greater song maker.Marley is and remains that true freedom fighter for all.He paid the price of his own life to make us all feel human and PROUD. "Dread...it shall dread and dread."
The reason why Chalamandas version did not get popular was because of the African language the world did not understand. Bob Marley sang it in English which most people did understand. We should also be proud of Chalamanda.
One song inspired the other. This man could have claimed for royalties or payments. The song is a big one and he could easily have earned tens of millions in USD. The lyrics are different...and the concept of Buffalo soldiers by the African is unrealistic to someone living in the west. Bob Marley had the right concept but he was also putting a spin to who the Buffalo Soldiers were, as they were actually fighting a war for America. This is unquestionable that one song did not only inspire the other but it was taken from the other. BY A LARGE WAY. It happens in music all the time...even sometimes unconsciously but this guy in Africa must have had a money tree in his backyard so he didn't care...
Bob Marley also took lyrics from the 20's from Sister Rosetta Parks and later in the 40's from Lonnie Johnson The lyrics were Cold Ground Was My Bed And Bedrock Was My Pillow The clue is Marley called the song Talking Blues.
Most or all Artists are influenced by another before them. Bob was influenced by Giddes original and then composed another version which is much more lyrical.
Both Giddes Chalamanda and Bob Marley are worthy of respect as musicians and both are legends. However, if this is a subtle reference to an act of plagiarism, the courts of justice would be the only place to go. The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own has serious ramifications in both the academic and professional worlds, and that includes the music world.
Gides traveled to America with some guys for the first time... the song was being performed at the high commission and it was referred to as “Bob Marley’s Sampled Song “ before it was being performed vie live band .. the video is on TH-cam
You have to be out of your mind to compare the both songs. I say this as someone with a background in music. The recording from the African elder is not a record from 1974.
Interesting. In a different case, Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions did People Get Ready (1965) and Bob Marley used it as inspiration for One Love -"Bob Marley recorded an interpretation of "People Get Ready" as "One Love/People Get Ready" in 1965 and again in 1977"
Things happened coincidentally... i have seen someone release music with the title and same name as an underground starter having similar rhymes rhythms and same song name.. the music maybe the same.. but it’s for bob Marley and the same song is also for the Mr Giddes
Thanks for the research to bring this forward. Whatever the differences in the melodies, the song is Chalamada's, he produced it 1974 and Bob Marley 1978. Jury could award damages to Chalamanda.
As a song writer,musician and vocalist myself. I have to admit that Bob pirated this one, that doesn’t take away anything from the greatness of Bob Marley . It’s been documented that Bob took many songs from other people and made it his own. My problem with that is, Bobs family keeps on eating while the original composers get nothing and some get bullied by Rita and his children
This wasn’t recorded in 1974 the piano is clearly some type of Roland,digitized drums give it up too easy. Maybe the man mean it’s was recorded in 1994 not 1974. Go and google what music from Africa recorded in 1974 sound like.
@@victormdala361 it is ironic that you’ve probably never been near a studio door , telling some one with two number one albums, Album of the year and 6 number one singles he knows nothing about music. If the internet never existed you would probably never been able to get involved in a conversation with me . Find yourself yute before making any statements, I checked your page, you have no subscribers, what is it that you do again?
@@NaturalVybzIssential1 just because my page has no subscribers doesn’t mean I don’t know shit….am not a TH-camr,,…..for you to say Bob Marley pirated other peoples songs it just shows you don’t anything about Bob Marley….and I checked your context on your page,,,your music is shit…no test ..Soo basic…
obviously Giddes was the first, some producers must have sampled the song for Bob because Giddes wasn't famous at that time and the internet wasn't around too.
Seems like sections of the song have similarities but I think the experiences of real Buffalo soldiers of America ( blacks in the union army fighting for freedom of slaves against the confederates ) in the American civil war.
Great artists! great legends! Giddes's version is raw and original, but surely u can hear similarities in Bob's version. I give much respect to Giddes, pure talent!
The instruments in Chalamanda's song sound so modern and the recording so clear ,it is as if was recorded recently. Something is not adding up, I wish more information was available ,especially the studio where the song was recorded in 1974, it must have been a world class studio, another question is, was the song a single or released in an album. After playing almost 10 of Chalamanda's old songs, one thing is clear, the quality of recording is the same , it is the same quality of recording that was common in 60s and 70s , so this clearer mordern like version of 2000s could not just appear in one song and then disappear in the rest of the songs. More questions need to be answered here before people jumped in conclusion.
You're focusing on the wrong thing--in other words missing the forest for the trees. Maybe this will convince you: th-cam.com/video/fwyxOZM_r4w/w-d-xo.html
It's really an old song, I heard from my childhood when the only recording place I. Malawi was only the National's radio The MBC in 70s And Godes was a great singer of his erra
I am a Malawian who was born 1968. I used to listen to my parents enjoying Giddes music and they also used to enjoy some of Bob Marleys songs. But in those days Giddes Baffalo Soldier was never heard. We started to hear his Buffalo soldier more recently. I think if he had done the Buffalo soldier before Bob Marleys song, when Marleys song came out it would have amplified his version at the same time. However when you listen to Giddes Buffalo soldier you will notice that the tune is of the 1950s - 1960s, I know this because we used to have a programme on the radio where they used to play old music of the 50 - 60 and that was the tune.
I looooove listening to Bob Nesta Marley: Zimbabwe, Natural Mystic, Stir It Up About the review: I would say its the same song. Sorry to us Marley lovers
Giddes Chalamanda deserve respect and recognition as well. This is a true indication that there are lot talents in Africa, Malawi 🇲🇼 to be particular thet needs to be recognised and acknowledged. Big up Agide 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
You don't stop man. We can't hear anyone but you!
Same title, similar message, different genres, two different great artists who selflessly shared their talent with the world. Ours is to love and support them.
you nailed it
you said it all dear, from sierra leone, west africa
Chalamanda is the originator of buffalo soldier and he deserves credit. Both Marley and Chalamanda are legends
Bob Marley developed someone's song...that song belong to Chalamanda
It’s good that Africa can claim Buffalo Soldier but we are also the Buffalo Soldiers that was taken from Africa to the heart of the Caribbean. So it’s OK for Bob to take it and make it creative and Sing it. Jamaicans are very creative. And we got all our rhythm from Africa. One Love.
Doesnt hurt to tell the trueth, lyk wise history always a history.
After all Jamacan are the roots of Africa.
I guess people don’t have ears to hear that an old man is singing the song with digital instruments in 1974. No logic no common sense.
My friend dats backward.
Trees never grow from leaves to root, in another word african were forced to jamaica, otherwise other trees grown upside down. Correct knowledge or else back to school cuz this piece of history already been done n not even genius can change it!
Chalamanda sang it Malawi style then Marley nailed it international style to last for generations. Both are Legends
Chalamanda sang the song first
Bob did a remix of the song. Chalamanda deserves the credit for the song's creation.
U love Africa
Chalamanda Buffalo Soldier was foolishness. I don’t know how anyone can compare both songs and believe them to be the same. Everyone here should go on TH-cam and listen to the banana split song that was recorded in the 60s.
@@thetruth3775 just listen to the message don't just talk only, Bob was a big singer so he couldn't sang in the same rhythm as it's prohibited in the music industry
The difference between the two is the level of energy and optimism that Bob expressed which makes it outstanding.
Wow never thought of the similarities in both artists, but Bob just polished it from Gides because of the availability of the instruments used while Chalamanda sang traditionally, kudos to these two great Africans
Everyone sang it traditionally, African tradition and Jamaican stuff
Bob Marley's Buffalo Soldier sounds more like a part II song from Giddes Chalamanda's one. He begins telling the story of a child who dreamed to go to America and Bob Marley ends it up telling the consequences of that, one of them which is ending up forgetting your roods and live your life fighting for the wrong side and against your own motherland. From Giddes Chalamanda it was a dream sharing song but from Bob Marley it was a warning song.
Perfect observation
Nice analogy. Thank you
Nothing on debate can change the direction of this idea...
Infact this is the third understanding of the song as sang already from the two legends.
Giddes @Foresight
Bob's @Insight
The overall look of comparisons brought us @Hindsight.
"Am ALLOWANCE" from Nigeria.
Long live AFRICANS and AFRICA.
Nice thought
🎉❤
I believe Giddis to be the originator of the song no doubt at all. But I also like the fact that Bob perfected it. Big ups to both.
It could be true how many things that us Africans have done first but because they are not recorded and same one up there in Europe does it and keeps it on record they
become founders e.g David Livingstone when he came to northern Rhodesia he found people who lived along the Zambezi river and took him to the falls along the river where he claimed to have discovered the falls and named Victoria falls....Giddis sung that song first you where not there...🤔
What do you mean Bob Marley perfected it? What a heck is that? The original cannot be perfected, think my friend! You cannot tell a musician how to sing his first original song! Everybody could be perfecting any song if there is no law of such as copyright! Think, he stole the copyright from the African man, I am mad about not giving the reverence to THE AFRICAN MAN!
@@francissakala6367 What do you mean Bob Marley perfected it? What a heck is that? The original cannot be perfected, think my friend! You cannot tell a musician how to sing his first original song! Everybody could be perfecting any song if there is no law of such as copyright! Think, he stole the copyright from the African man, I am mad about not giving the reverence to THE AFRICAN MAN!
The internet is in your hands and people just keep spewing misinformation
And people don’t have ears lol. How you hear pure digital and say yes this in 1974
It's very clear here that the song was first done by Giddes Chalamanda despite Bob Marley's version which came later and was more popular during our age. They both may not have sung it the exact way or with the same exact words but that doesn't matter. Thanks.
Where is the proof that Giddes recorded that song in 1974?
It's clear that every artist inspires himself from others artists...but it's better to give a little percentage of copyrights to the artists who inspire you...but it's not so easy to do, blessings to both and to you all
a beautiful song done by two different legends!!I wish Bob Marley was still alive so we could have them do a remix. maaaaaaan that would have been so great to watch and listen to!!!!
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yes that's true
Both are beautiful songs and both are sang by sons of Africa, anything else doesn't matter 🇿🇦
Every artist takes inspiration from somewhere
When that song was recorded in Malawi broadcasting corporation (the only recorder & broadcaster owned by state at that time) it was the time of African revolutions where by pan Africanism was main focus. After Giddes Chalamanda sang it on MBC, the song did not take him far just because it was in English, (moreover a little broken one because he didn't go far with education ), and MBC refused to promote it. The main issue was that it was in the early years of african revolutions of kicking out colonialism, so leaders at that time focused on promoting local songs sang in local languages. But for giddes's song (Buffalo soilder), it had already went viral at that time without him knowing. In early 2000 some guys hunted him down and found him suffering in gheto, so he was asked to re-record some of his vintage songs, the first song which he remembered was "Buffalo soilder ", and he re-recorded in the same lyrics and pattern he composed in 1973 & released in 1974. Let's honour him as he is not the only person who paid heavy price due to copyright problems, but also respect should go to Bob for his version of reggae. The question is, why there is no records or cassette for this track to prove the copyright issue ? . Guys, it's long story, but to cut it short, I can say, Malawi was under one party system which monopolized everything, artists & recording companies were told on what to do. Like I said, upon MBC's refusal to promote him, Giddes ended up playing his music in hotels, entertainment centers, etc (mostly in Zambia & Zimbabwe), but not recording it for business because he was poor and not very famous like other early musicians who I know.
Growing up in Malawi, i grew up listening to both songs and one reason I underrated Giddes Chalamanda was my thought that he got inspiration from Bob Marley. I have profound respect for Bob such that I can sing along almost all of his songs, but if Giddes was the first to record then he has gained 10 times more respect from me. While on that note I think the only place where we can get the evidence to support Giddes date of his recording is the Malawi Broadcasting Corporation, MBC. In those days in Malawi there was no private recording studios. Musicians those days were recorded at MBC, and we would listen to their recordings from the then only one radio station only. If the chronology of the recordings of the two songs as claimed are right then we have undeniable truths that Giddes Chalamanda inspired by Bob Marley referring to the song called Bufallo Soldier. It happens quite a lot in Music and most of great songs are never inspired by one person.
Thanks to Uwomano for the link: th-cam.com/video/fwyxOZM_r4w/w-d-xo.html
Many songs are written by someone else but are only made big when famous individuals take it to another level.However credit must always be given to the original piece.
Giddes is the best since he is the one who started recording the song first.
He is gifted & creative , i salute mr Chalamanda than those famous guys who did it at second hand 😂😂😂
and i also do remember that those days Kamuzu era Mbc could not allow copied music from outside but only orignal songs from the artists themselves. with this point am so sure that it was Gides who SANG FIRST
A prophet is hardly regarded in his own land
It was the native Indians who first came up with the words “Buffalo Soldiers.” Bob Marley got his inspiration from the history of the war that had black slaves fighting on the frontline and defeated the Indians.
Bob Marley don’t sing about foolishness. His song is totally different from Chalamanda’s. What was Chalamanda singing about?
Whether it is Bob first or Gide we love both as they all have a lot in common. One AfroMusic.
Bob Marley recorded Buffalo Soldier after he visited Zimbabwe 🇿🇼. In which Giddes was already known with the song. Marley enjoyed the song because of his reputation international. Nevertheless both Giddes and Bob Marley are singing a story that was written in the book about Buffalo Soldiers
Bob visited Zimbabwe in 1980. His Song was recorded in 1978.
@@isaacmwanza462 you are talking about concert visit in 80. We are talking of records of visiting as individual.
One of my favorite songs . I remembered dancing to that song . In my beautiful isle of spice Grenada . Bob Marley is a legend . I will always love him and his music .
My concern is ... how many of these new generation artists will have their songs played after 44 years? 🎵
Kudos to the Legends, *Thank you for everything* .
Very few if not none 🤣🤣🤣
@@hulisaniramabulana5035 you´re kidding...
of arcourse Sam i conquar with the artist of new generation.sing much different to old musicians. Newly musicians their song cant last for years.thanx very much. Bosco from uganda
@@kateetejohnbosco4463 oh, this is exactly what the very old ones thought about the old artists with all their electric guitars and stuff - every generation has a new way of expressing and every generation thinks they are the bestest... :-)
during the recent years i have been revisiting my old musical heroes, because i wanted to show my son a few of them - it started in the late 60s with pop rock music of that time - i read thousands of comments and under every single 60s band or artist i could read: this band was underrated and far ahead of their time! they only produced the best albums in the world!
so i went on, 70s music, almost the same - there i learned: who doesn´t like disco has no taste!
80s (which i didn´t like so much), the fans also claim they had the best music - 90s hiphop, the fans even claim they had the REAL music (which all fans say b.t.w.), although their music consists mainly of samples from older music...
well, i also like 30s/40s music and there: this artist plays all modern musicians in the ground!
a.s.o. and even when i went to classical music, the first comment i read was this: we got to be aware that all so called pop music is nothing but dross!
it´s ridiculous, because it shows the arrogance of the listeners, like: "i have the best taste i am a menber of the best generation" - it may be nice to feel that way, but it has not much to do with reality - time will show...
when techno started in the 90s (it started earlier, but became famous then) no one thought it would last long - now we have 2022 and it´s still there and prospering well...
hey bosco, thank you for answering, i appreciate that yout took the time...
btw. i have a record with "aluar horns" from uganda on it and that is among the most impressive music i have encountered in my life - do you know it? is this music still made today?
i send love and greetings from germany
@@kateetejohnbosco4463 do you happen to know dr. namadingo from malawi? he is a new artist, and i think he is just brilliant! he even sang together with giddes - he was here in germany in 2018 not 30 kms from where i live - so sad i din´t know him then - i hope he will come again some day, then i will go to his concert... :-)
One inspired the other. No coincidence here. Get the chronology right to part the two singers. Yet Bob Marley, whatever his position in the chronology, made the song famous and worldwide as a Reggae beat. I personally think Chalamanda is the creator of the song.
Gide’s song doesn’t sound 1974 to me…it sounds more digital and a bit of advanced studio than the ones of 74
Chilamanda had song "buffalo soldier" the lyrics and context are different so they never be the same song,it would be saying anyone sings about love is copying the first person to sing about love.
@@gilmoreskeen1234 Only if the words, the refrain and the melody were similar or even identical in parts.
It is clear that Bob Martley took it from him so let's give Chalamanda the credit. I love Bob Martley and this does not discredit him as a legend.
where is Chalamanda's proof of recording
The piano in the African man’s song didn’t come out till the 90s
I agree
@@mellow_keys8618 🤣🤣will I call it ignorance or pure lies. Ask of Fela Anikulapokuti, Ebenezer Obey, Onyeka Onwenu, Maria Make e etc. When were you born by the way
@@ikemolokwu5123 it doesn’t matter at least I have the ears to tell the difference between things. You clearly have no knowledge at all on music or it’s technology. The African man is probably from where you’re from so you’re defending this with your life. While we live in a world where most of life’s questions can be answered in your hands you strongly believe that track was recorded in 1974 with digital instruments, a Roland keyboard that didn’t even exist till the late 80s with digital drums. All of the technology in the African man’s song were in development in 1978 when Bob was recording Buffalo soldier. Go listen to recorded music in Africa from 1974.
Totally agree, Giddes version has a tradittional African beat whereas Bob's has Reggae beat. What Bob did was turn the song around using Gede's original influence and make it a masterpiece.
Being a designer I often get influence from previous ideas or add two or three together and come out with something that substantially improves the original concept. For instance, designed a retro motor home using influences from Lesley Green, the Architect who designed the London Underground, Kate Winslet roof trrrace form a scene on the bow of Titanic, ZZ Top for an idea on their Eliminator album and European Airstream caravans plus original idess ending up with a retro/surf/deco theme.
In the same way music is often sub-conciously or deliberately copied and always will be. We should applaud new variations of music ~ of course giving credit to those who gave initial influence in some way, so they too may be acknowledged.
It is not necessarily the reward that is important, but the accolation as opposed to blatent theft which is important to the originator.
This wasn’t recorded in 1974 the piano is clearly some type of Roland,digitized drums give it up too easy. Maybe the man mean it’s was recorded in 1994 not 1974. Go and google what music from Africa recorded in 1974 sound like.
Word....totally well said👍🏻✊🏻👊🏻
@@mellow_keys8618 this is not the one that was recorded in 1974. There is another one with a banjo only by the same Giddes. This is the one that was recorded in 2015
@@limbanimagomero6588 there is no African version from the 70s on the internet meaning it didn’t exist. There are multiple recorded versions of Buffalo soldier by Bob nothing else online. Send the link.
@@mellow_keys8618 You're right there's nothing on the Internet but you may wish to know that we grew up listening to the song on the radio here in Malawi. This is a matter of fact and I will not be able to argue further
Based on your explanation both song name Buffalo Soldiers and that’s where the similarities ends
And I think let chalamanda claim proceeds coz he was the rightful copyright holder
A person has to be deaf to say that similarity between Bob Marley's version and Giddes song is only in the title. Bob Marley copied Giddes even where he sang 'Yoi yoi yo'.
Bob Marley’s son entitled War ,it’s a speech of Haile Selassie addressing the League of Nations . Bob is a creative man ,so when he borrowed from others he packaged it in his own way that .
I agree, Bob Markey's song was a remake from Chalamanda's song.
Beautiful history. Let's leave it that way...wow!
If Giddes Chalamanda was the first to sing that song, he deserves a credit for that, even though both versions are great.
It’s hard for me to believe that a man from Africa would sing about Buffalo soldier, this is more of a protest song if anything, because this is what Bob Marley does and that is what makes him so famous.
Correct. Bob Marley has the cultural context to sing buffalo soldier. The African artist is far removed from what a buffalo soldier is
And that buffalo soldier is African no doubt about it. Even the reggae protesters like Bob Marley and Mighty Culture were much defending Africans. Their origin
True legend deserves fully respect. ❤❤❤❤Giddes Challamanda.
No songwriter would say these songs are similar. Two distinct songs. The melodies, melodic structure, lyrical themes are all different with the only similarity being the phrase Buffalo Soldier as the chorus. However Bob Marley's chant Woyoyo is the same melody (only four bars) as that of a children's show theme song from USA in 1968, Banana Splits. You can listen to it here on TH-cam. Nonetheless a great song by Bob Marley released posthumously.
I totally agree with David Piggott
This is so true I agree it the only thing I hear is Buffalo soldier this makes no sense
exactly
it's the Same song..... reason the mortif is the same which is the Baffalo soldier.
i don't think so
Both are legends!
I'm a musician 🎶 = credit to Chalamanda too
People, I know its hard to think that the great Bob Marley could possibly have picked a song from an African in an obscure country of Malawi. The truth is, he did. Chalamada's songs were already being heard internationally in the 1960s.
My concern is that Chalamanda should have been acknowledged and paid some loyalties. Its not late, this can be brought to the attention of exparts to analyse the two pieces and claims can be made.
Bob never released this track. It was released posthumously. You’ll need to speak to Chris Blackwell about that. Bob could clearly have been inspired. But we have to be very careful when it comes to Bob’s songs. A lot of his songs that he released in the 1970s, he’d actually written and sang earlier versions in the 1960s. There’s no telling whether Bob Marley actually wrote Buffalo soldier in 1978 or 1968. But Bob obviously listened to African music. And King Sporty would likely have listened to African songs as well. Personally, I feel that either Bob or King Sporty or both, had heard Giddes Chalamanda’s song and used it as a foundation for the more popular version.
It's disappointing you don't know the reason for Buffalo Soldiers in the War for America... look it up and see its two different stories
@@bajebajan6937 Me not knowing the reason for Buffalo Soldiers does not in anyway take away the strong possibly that Bob and any other writers of Bob Marley's "Buffalo Soldier" song listened and took inspiration from Giddies song.
he didn't perfect anything, he plagiarised and popularised the song.
@@mihjibiggschaka4010 a Buffalo Solider was an actual term that White Americans gave Black Soliders who they recruited to fight against Native First Nation people. The term existed before both song writers but keep reaching.
Someone came and Said listen hear that beat its not Bob's and you run with it ... the song was released after Bob died so beats could have been added but history fails many when they assume the present is all there is
Don't try to get popularity by dishonoring the great works of Bob Marley
Don’t try to get popularity by pretending that someone is dishonouring the great works of Bob Marley. 😂
I have come to realise that everything popularised by Jamaica and recognised as Jamaican, and part of its unique culture, is always claimed by one African country or another as originating from them! Why can’t they respect that Jamaicans are very talented in their own right and develop things in their own unique way.
Hello my brother, there are similarities between both songs. I prefer Bob Marley's version because Bob Marley upgraded that song to its full potential. However, back then, I'm not quite sure whether their were laws in place in order to discourage plagiarisation. In today's day and age, the original singer of that song could have earned compensation as a result of plagiarism.
We have to agree that Bob Marley played a smart game here and he perfected the melody in a different genre ( raggae)... it's a same words like " buffalo soldier and oyio oyio that a smart musician and composer wud tell he twisted abit ...wow these two songs are good and I could listen to both of them.... raggae has some roots from our old afro beats ..the connection is huge...
The beats were totally different. Reasons where different. bob was talking about history, giddes was talking about his American dream. What we should remember is buffalo soldier and woyoo are both universal words.
It might be coincidence or bob head it accidentally and incorporate it into his works. The good thing is that both songs are good and both of them are Africans, one love!
Bob definitely sampled Chamalanda! respect must be given
The Buffalo Soldier Bob Marley's song relates to the historical Buffalo Soldiers of old 1800s America. Giddes Chalamanda's song does not. Far as the melody and the vocalizations sounds more like a case of inspiration and not stealing.
Bob took it from chalamanda Bob polished it l am a Bob FAN but let's speak the truth the yrs difference shows it clear
It's not a big deal The known guys respects older once and they copy them it a kind of showing a respect
It happened to Manudebango the great musician of l think
cameroun Micheal Jackson copied SOULMAKOSA and polished it
These Stars has ears to hear something no one sees nor hear
@@princeoseitutu9899 Bob marley did not take anything, you don't know anything about music. The vocals, the message ,the beat are completely different. The only similarities in the two songs are the name.
@@islandpatriot2941 @Island Patriot You're blatently bold and very bias. This is not a war. Thankfully these are two very talented originators in their own rights. Your dishonesty has no need here. These two versions in various similar parts, could even work overlaying each other. I respect Bob Marley's work for carrying elder Giddes Chalamanda's work same as was from his ancestors roots of Africa, further afield than it's origin in 1974. Thanks JZ - Joossa👌🏾
@@cheddi6590 Yea, if this is not a war stop then accusing other people of stealing someone else's work. Thank JZ, yea there is a Jay-Z already, what he existed before that one too. You guys need to come up with your sh*t and stop trying to pawn off other people Sh*t as your own.These are very serious accusations, did you know that.
I fully agree with you there, one has to understand history to get that point.
Giddes wrote a Buffalo soldier song, and Marley we can say did a great cover. We will enjoy them both today
Wise.... it's a mission far above competition
I guess Africans don’t have ears to tell apart what the 70s and 90s sound like. Bob Marleys version was the original. Go listen to what African music recorded In The 70s sound like
More respect to our legend, Giddes Chalamanda, the original Buffalo soldier maker.
Giddes was exceptional & obviously wrote the song back in his day so full credit to him & no doubt Bob also very exceptional & talented heard it, liked it & adapted it to a raggae beat & tweaked it somewhat whilst giving it greater exposure to the world audience thru his popularity...I believe we owe both credit for what has come of it internationally since then...obviously
Dont undermine Malawians. It can sound poor ,coz of the poor instruments of 1970s in those poor studios that time in Malawi but Giddes is the best ,gifted man, creative & strong man of that time till now ( He is trending ,even young people loves Him here).
So big up to Giddes Chalamanda ,the one who sung the original piece.
Giddes chalamanda is atrue legend, here in Uganda his song Linny oohh is a hit and i like it
giddes chalamanda from chiradzulo malawi is the one who composed it
Same or similar Inspirations do come to different people in different locations at different times , this is the Almighty works One world One Creator
God's Great
I don't care about who recorded first,what I care about is who made it impactful and bob marley made it meaningfull and so big so you shouldn't spread hatred just listen to the beat, message and enjoy
Giddes Chalamanda's claims are right but Bob showed a great talent by taking the song to another level and making it more popular,I think the credit should be given to Chalamanda coz he is great talent,a powerful song writer
Don't agree. Marley should ask the poor man before taking his song. Didn't ask to take the song in a level. it was already in level back in africa.
So Giddes should get credit coz he's got talent? No proof of this, so unless something disproves Bob's claim then it stays where it is.🤷♂️
@@KyleInOklahoma Didn't ask any credit from anyone. He is already talented. He is no doing that for many but for joy and love.
The word of the songs are different and they are about a personal wish and Bob's historical story.
But Bob was very clear about it “Stolen from Africa, brought to America”… Or what did you think he meant if not the song itself…
Bob Marley's own starts with some force and power💞✊🏽 one Love
Shakira sang "Waka Waka" and she claimed it's her inspiration when she came from the barn, and yet this song origin is Dom cameroun Africa we sang in the 80's during high school games
Creativity and Delivery are Two different things, what Bob Marley delivered is a version that was acceptable to the whole world, which has brought Reggae upfront, all over the world, and musicians who creat reggae songs work to make the delivery as closely as possible, I have earned my self a little name singing Buffalo Soldier n getting the whole crowd to sing along, I am GREATFUL to Bob Marley he has opened our creative minds, where ever he is may he have all the PEACE he wished for us on Earth
In short the Legend Bob Marley (1976) polished the song of our legend Chalamanda (1974) to go viral internationally.
Giddes Chalamanda apparently released his version in the 1990s and not 1974. There is no record of the song being in existence on 1974.
th-cam.com/video/Jo_9RvEqv94/w-d-xo.htmlsi=HKZ8miobYzL8VUiI
Thank you Richard in pointing out this interesting sequel. Both songs are born out of the African soldiers of the 10th Cavalry Regiment of the United States Army. The melody may be different but the notation is the same. Bear in mind that these two singers are from different parts of the world and therefore will sing in two different accents. As they sing the "oyoyo" part, or would be written "Oh yo yo" it had to suit in how both languages are spoken to suit the Reggie rhythm and to suit the Malawi rhythm - a mixture of local and South African jive known in the Southern Africa. So, to me the song is the same. Now, I don't know how the music industry works but if Giddes recorded his tune in 1974, and Marley's tune was released in 1983 the definitely Giddes Chalamanda can claim to be the first to release this tune. My opinion!
That's academic. Music is cultural. Blend wisely and give it to us that's what we want. Sounds are from nature. We thank the universe.
The lyrics and meaning of the songs are totally different. The rhythm and melody are also different. Chalamanda cannot even proved that his song was recorded in 1974 to begin with. Now, Chalamanda already has a team of lawyers around him, why do you think they have not even asked TH-cam or the Marley estate to cease playing Buffalo Soldier? I can tell you that the Marley’s would have Chalamanda’s Buffalo soldier removed from TH-cam if was even sound anywhere near Bob’s Buffalo Soldier.
I share the same opinion with you. This explanation is just clear and should be understood by everyone.
Big ups to both Marley and our own Gides Chalamanda🇲🇼.
It should therefore be noted that his voice sounds more like an old man in the 90s than a real young man in 1974.
what a perspective. interesting
This is 2022, he's about 92 now, so yes,he was very older in the 70s
I would be very very surprised if I see anyone arguing and getting angry about this. I do not think it really matters who did what! What matters most was that both renditions were so beautifully sung. God bless this both LEGENDS. Peace and love ✌🏾
One millions from it
The original writer was king sporty base in Miami. The song was written from civil war in America.
King sporty song it and gave Bob Marley sing and release.
I believe Giddes' song is the original. And -- I'm a proud Jamaican and I idolize Bob Marley. However, I love both men and their invaluable contributions to music and the world at large. 💯🇯🇲
Africa is the source of many musical rythm you can discover in different World cultures.
Bob Marley was always pride to cry his african origin and he sing for Zimbabwe and also visite the rhodesia region 🤷🏾♂️
Giddes and many others african traditional singers wrote and create musical rythms, but nobody knows them, because we are poor.
Are you saying the genre of Reggae originated in Africa? Last I checked Bob grew up poor and worked his butt off to reach international status and legend.
Where is the prove of Geddes recordings first did he copyright it does he have on interview in the 70s talking about it ? If not there's no case here
No one can beat. Bob Marley born musician.
It's clear the genuine song is from Chalamanda improved by Bob Marley to international scene. It's said Marley paid a visit to Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 once may be inspired there. One love, big up to both legend
Interesting how Giddes didn't sue for copyright infringement. I can remember in the 80's, Manu Dibango sued Michael Jackson on Wanna Be Startin Somethin'...just over the line: ma-ma-se ma-ma-sa ma-ma-ko-saa
And Tala Andre Marie sued James Brown before that.
Both are legends expressing the plight of Africans albeit in different circumstances.
Oh boy! Let's give both of these men credit. No hate. Just let us love both. You should try and promote Giddes C so more people familiar with his music. We black people are Africans. We don't need to fight against each other. If Giddes is the first author, my hats off to him. If Bob get ideas and change up some lyrics and rhythm, just promote them both. Back then in the days, BMI and ASCAP didn't care about international and careless. They just wanted to rob black musicians. All they care about is filling their pockets and giving black musicians peanuts. Big up both artists.
blessing 👍
Just like "War" a song inspired from King haely Selasiah, this one as so modified makes Bob Marley even greater song maker.Marley is and remains that true freedom fighter for all.He paid the price of his own life to make us all feel human and PROUD.
"Dread...it shall dread and dread."
The reason why Chalamandas version did not get popular was because of the African language the world did not understand. Bob Marley sang it in English which most people did understand. We should also be proud of Chalamanda.
One song inspired the other. This man could have claimed for royalties or payments. The song is a big one and he could easily have earned tens of millions in USD. The lyrics are different...and the concept of Buffalo soldiers by the African is unrealistic to someone living in the west. Bob Marley had the right concept but he was also putting a spin to who the Buffalo Soldiers were, as they were actually fighting a war for America. This is unquestionable that one song did not only inspire the other but it was taken from the other. BY A LARGE WAY. It happens in music all the time...even sometimes unconsciously but this guy in Africa must have had a money tree in his backyard so he didn't care...
Thanks for the research. African legends deserve the best.
The difference is Bob's rethym is for someone heading to a big challenge.
While Giddes's rethym is for someone heading home from a big challenge.
Bob Marley's song is talking about history, fighting to survive and being used to fight against another people in their own land.
Very interesting observation, I can hear the similarity. What yr did the Bob and wailers did the Africa / Zimbabwe tour?
@InterOps. 1980.
Bob Marley also took lyrics from the 20's from Sister Rosetta Parks and later in the 40's
from Lonnie Johnson The lyrics were Cold Ground Was My Bed And Bedrock Was My Pillow
The clue is Marley called the song Talking Blues.
The fact is that both men were glorifying the courage of black fighters, although the war was not theirs. Thanks to both great men music.
@@ferrislkpokpa7867 the other was just a stupid want to see skyscrapers in US
It don’t matter who sing it first once the message reaches the ppl is good enough
Most or all Artists are influenced by another before them. Bob was influenced by Giddes original and then composed another version which is much more lyrical.
WaOOO,! It really shows chalamanda did it first & B0b Marly worked on it after 4yrs later. Thanks for the scrutinize
Both Giddes Chalamanda and Bob Marley are worthy of respect as musicians and both are legends. However, if this is a subtle reference to an act of plagiarism, the courts of justice would be the only place to go. The practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own has serious ramifications in both the academic and professional worlds, and that includes the music world.
Gides traveled to America with some guys for the first time... the song was being performed at the high commission and it was referred to as “Bob Marley’s Sampled Song “ before it was being performed vie live band .. the video is on TH-cam
Chalamanda's is the original one coz we call those beats "kadongo kamu"(single guitar) here in Uganda africa.but after all Bob is also ours
You have to be out of your mind to compare the both songs. I say this as someone with a background in music. The recording from the African elder is not a record from 1974.
Interesting. In a different case, Curtis Mayfield & The Impressions did People Get Ready (1965) and Bob Marley used it as inspiration for One Love -"Bob Marley recorded an interpretation of "People Get Ready" as "One Love/People Get Ready" in 1965 and again in 1977"
Things happened coincidentally...
i have seen someone release music with the title and same name as an underground starter having similar rhymes rhythms and same song name.. the music maybe the same.. but it’s for bob Marley and the same song is also for the Mr Giddes
The similarities are there. Interesting
Thanks for the research to bring this forward. Whatever the differences in the melodies, the song is Chalamada's, he produced it 1974 and Bob Marley 1978. Jury could award damages to Chalamanda.
As a song writer,musician and vocalist myself. I have to admit that Bob pirated this one, that doesn’t take away anything from the greatness of Bob Marley . It’s been documented that Bob took many songs from other people and made it his own. My problem with that is, Bobs family keeps on eating while the original composers get nothing and some get bullied by Rita and his children
What label released the Giddes version?
You know nothing about music,,that’s why you ain’t known….Bob only borrowed words of wisdom from arts especially freedom fighters
This wasn’t recorded in 1974 the piano is clearly some type of Roland,digitized drums give it up too easy. Maybe the man mean it’s was recorded in 1994 not 1974. Go and google what music from Africa recorded in 1974 sound like.
@@victormdala361 it is ironic that you’ve probably never been near a studio door , telling some one with two number one albums, Album of the year and 6 number one singles he knows nothing about music. If the internet never existed you would probably never been able to get involved in a conversation with me . Find yourself yute before making any statements, I checked your page, you have no subscribers, what is it that you do again?
@@NaturalVybzIssential1 just because my page has no subscribers doesn’t mean I don’t know shit….am not a TH-camr,,…..for you to say Bob Marley pirated other peoples songs it just shows you don’t anything about Bob Marley….and I checked your context on your page,,,your music is shit…no test ..Soo basic…
obviously Giddes was the first, some producers must have sampled the song for Bob because Giddes wasn't famous at that time and the internet wasn't around too.
Seems like sections of the song have similarities but I think the experiences of real Buffalo soldiers of America ( blacks in the union army fighting for freedom of slaves against the confederates ) in the American civil war.
Yes the guy is right, for his work to find out about that, but then they are good work you know blessed one love
I still go with Marley..The rythms in the Malawi man shows the song is recorded in the 80's or 90's
he is still alive and you can contact him. he will explain when he did the song.
Thank you. 😆
@@mikewilzmphundi4927 no if it was recorded in 1974 everyone would’ve seen it already this was CLEARLY NOT recorded in 1974
I don't now what to choose but I can see that rappers n singer can use the same rhythm
Great artists! great legends! Giddes's version is raw and original, but surely u can hear similarities in Bob's version. I give much respect to Giddes, pure talent!
I am just happy that the message is heard and I care zero about the Originality after al they both represent Africa...
The instruments in Chalamanda's song sound so modern and the recording so clear ,it is as if was recorded recently. Something is not adding up, I wish more information was available ,especially the studio where the song was recorded in 1974, it must have been a world class studio, another question is, was the song a single or released in an album. After playing almost 10 of Chalamanda's old songs, one thing is clear, the quality of recording is the same , it is the same quality of recording that was common in 60s and 70s , so this clearer mordern like version of 2000s could not just appear in one song and then disappear in the rest of the songs. More questions need to be answered here before people jumped in conclusion.
You're focusing on the wrong thing--in other words missing the forest for the trees. Maybe this will convince you: th-cam.com/video/fwyxOZM_r4w/w-d-xo.html
It's really an old song, I heard from my childhood when the only recording place I. Malawi was only the National's radio The MBC in 70s
And Godes was a great singer of his erra
Dear check Chalamanda's old songs. The recording was good because that was the National studio
Ask anyone from Malawi who were born 60s and they used to listen to this songs of Giddes
Giddes released in 1974 did u miss that part or ??
same title different message... different genre.... different worlds.... but all good😛😛😛👍
But have you made clear research on who were the buffalo soldiers?
Bob Marley played with pictures showing what the song meant in realty. What did the other singer do?
Giddes is the originator. Great legends they are😍😍
Nope.
Bufalo soldier was a book they both read it at different times
I am a Malawian who was born 1968. I used to listen to my parents enjoying Giddes music and they also used to enjoy some of Bob Marleys songs. But in those days Giddes Baffalo Soldier was never heard. We started to hear his Buffalo soldier more recently. I think if he had done the Buffalo soldier before Bob Marleys song, when Marleys song came out it would have amplified his version at the same time. However when you listen to Giddes Buffalo soldier you will notice that the tune is of the 1950s - 1960s, I know this because we used to have a programme on the radio where they used to play old music of the 50 - 60 and that was the tune.
So true! Copy cat usually modified others' in their own similarity ways to best fits the lyk of the rest!!
DurMc love Bob marley my favorite reggae artist but I agree with you on this one
I looooove listening to Bob Nesta Marley: Zimbabwe, Natural Mystic, Stir It Up
About the review: I would say its the same song. Sorry to us Marley lovers