Three Perspectives on Philippians
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- John Stackhouse, George Sarris, and Chris Date give three different interpretations of the meaning of the important passage in the second chapter of Philippians.
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Through the lens of a Loving Father and Son that has removed all sin from all mankind and wills not to lose a single child, I see the 10 Commandments now as the 10 Promises. Jesus has fulfilled the law and All Will be reconciled to Him. If that is not the truth than we who believe this gospel must be more loving than our Father. Does not your own heart ignite when hearing the universal reconciliation message. That should be proof in itself.
I’m looking at it again. I appreciate all the things you said. I may have to see this in a new way now. I want to see it how God made it to be and not make it fit something I want it to say. Thank you!
Date is partially right about the nomenclature however one cannot read those verses in isolation. In fact, most of the NT must be read in total context. Sarris is correct about the context of the verses based on not just the Koine Greek, but the message of the gospel in general. We don’t know if the proper verb is ought, should, or will, but we do know that translated from the Koine Greek it reads, “So that at the name of Jesus every knee-of beings heavenly and earthly and subterranean- should bend…” so it reads both as a willful that all will choose to do. Should connotes and option of alternatives, but in the beginning of the verse it reads “every knee”, that gives us the context of the infinitude of the beings involved.
I certainly hope that George Sarris is correct here
The verb is Subjunctive Active which makes it only ambiguous if we read the verse in isolation, however that’s not how we read scripture. We must consider the full length AND context of the epistle, and that will give us the proper context of the verb:
Man thats a lot of pressure. I have to understand subjunctive active verbs of a or be tortured forever.
No one is saying that your eternal fate rests on your doctrine of Hell.
It's funny that many charge universalists with the crime that the Holy God would have to force everyone into salvation. Whilst I may be a determinist, that is ultimately, a qualified compatiblist if you will, I never press the notion that the Holy God forces anything. Rather it's the idea that the truth of all, that perfect being is far too attractive for anyone to not want to be as the Holy God. Therefore the invitation is always taken up on, but still that's only one part of the eschatological×soteriological matrix, there are more functions that speak to the promise than that general statement. So of course everyone bows and speaks in favor of Jesus through absolute honor and perfect respect, never can such glory be had but by the Holy One, and indeed anyone saying and prostrating themselves in a reluctant manner is an insult to the fact of us having been promised of eventually being in full amongst the totality of our Holy Gods' presence.
I though the Shalls in the Old Testament are actually future active indicative tho
They don’t have to like it they just got to know it and you just did your job my good brother by letting them know just that much : once you know you can’t go back to not knowing , you can’t ever say that your ears never heard the truth. GOD IS MUCH PLEASED WITH YOU FOR THAT!!!!!!!!!!!! And indeed all of these people who so freely use the word universe throwing it around like it’s a diety when it’s not the word universe means literally space where the nine planets 🪐 dwell that’s it!!!!!!!! Nothing more nothing less a lot of people will be giving a rude awakening trust me I’d rather confess here on earth 🌍 first , before I go to the grave after I pass away because when your alive you have a chance after you pass away it’s too late you can’t confess in your grave peace ☮️ and blessings brothers 🙏🙏🙏🕊