I was heavy into it as a teenager until the Holy Spirit started opening my eyes to the falseness of it all. I think for me, I felt a sense of some sort of identity or self-knowledge about myself or others. But when you start to study, many authors will tell you so many conflicting information. And the most important thing, I found it foolishness to prejudge people based off their birth date! God is way bigger than that. When you get off into birth charting and astrology readings, you are leaning on another source or idol for knowledge and the Holy Spirit is not in that! He will give you the understanding that you need, tell you who to have in your circle, which job you should choose, and what He wants to prune or uproot off of you so that your character reflects Jesus Christ more and more. Satan is the ultimate identity thief so anything outside of the Word of God that will try to tell us who we are, should be researched and questioned before we try to attach ourselves to it.
Actually there is a difference between astronomy the study of the Stars and astrology nursing the stars for horoscopes which is a form of divination and is prohibited by YHWH
The Jewish feast of Pentecost (Shavuot) was primarily a thanksgiving for the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, but it was later associated with a remembrance of the Law given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai. Please Pastor nothing relating to the moon is associated with the basic reason why the Jews celebrate as you are saying( 5:21 mins)?
The Britannica is not the Bible please. We should allow the Bible to speak for itself and not the encyclopedia. This is why many à believer walk under the shadows of ignorance. We don't seek to know the truth in due diligent study if the word but then we make references from the things on the internet and the encyclopedia
This is heretical: Isaiah 47:13-14 "Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them. " 2 Chronicles 33:2-9 - Astrology is grouped with spiritism, wizardy, human sacrifice and idolatry. Under this wicked king, Judah became worse than all of those whom the Lord had destroyed before the children of Israel-the Canaanites, the Hivites, the Hittites. He seduced Judah into brazen idolatry and destroyed all of Hezekiah's good works. He used astrology, spiritism, wizardry, human sacrifice, erection of idol groves-and yet he repented in captivity.
Did you truly think through your comment before posting it. You didn’t even prove why they are heretical. You just gave out biblical passages and the made your own assertions , that’s all. No proof. 🤷🏻♂️
@@christianwood5320 Biblical passages that directly contradict what Pastor Obed claimed: that the Bible does not mention a single verse in opposition to the practice of astrology.
@@christianwood5320 So it's false to say otherwise. He said he read through the entire Bible. It doesn't mean that he is a heretic, but it means he either wasn't diligent while reading or diligent in laying out his teaching. But, I will give anyone that since the term 'astrology' is replaced with 'divination' and 'fortune-telling' in other translations of the Bible, that I still am not 100% sure about the legitimacy of it's use in the Bible. I do, however, think its a little foolish to think that astrology, being an occult subject, should be counted completely out. I mean, all the other occult topics are practically there (In 2 Chronicles). Why should a person count it out simply because different translations don't mention it or I can't prove it's illegitimacy with some sort of documentation? It's pinching pennies. Looking for a reason for it's legitimacy. My only point is that shalalala's post has value regardless of his/her ability to prove it. It's scripture. And scripture is not value-less. You just need to be willing to see it's value. That's all. No more, no less. It has more to do with the heart than the head. Even though we try to and do convince ourselves otherwise.
In Genesis it states that God created the firmament with the sun moon and the stars and they are to be for signs seasons days. Many Bible verses including most of Revelation is actually referring to the Mazzoroth or astronomy as the firmament is a heavenly clock. Just as they knew when Jesus was being born by signs in the Stars so we also know of the sign of the son of man as spoken of in Matthew and Revelation which happened in 2017 (the woman travailing to give birth clothed in the sun with the moon at her feet in a crown of 12 stars on her head that happened in 2017) We are not to use the firmament or the zodiac for astrology for telling futures and applying it to ourselves for horoscopes that would be wrong. We are however supposed to use it for signs and seasons and days and years and it's a lost art it's a lost knowledge and we need to regain it
Astrology is a science though because it is based on mathematics and geometry and the relationship between the physical planets. From those relationships you get certain energies or qualities that then affect how events play out here on earth. So there is an order a natural and predictable movement of planetary bodies and alignments that can be clearly measured to produce certain qualities here on earth. It is a science because you can 'observe' it rationally with your senses and form conclusions. Because of this it makes it part of God's creation and should not be worshipped or treated as an idol meaning you have to realize tha God is still in control just because you can observe planetary movements and relationships and form conclusions doesn't make you a God or greater than God. You still have to bow down to God and depend on Him not astrology al alignments. This was the message God was giving to Job and in the book of Deuteronomy. The message wasn't to abstain from using it, it was to abstain from using it as the end all be all. Astrology is a tool and a language nothing else.
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How do we know more about the silver moon?
I was heavy into it as a teenager until the Holy Spirit started opening my eyes to the falseness of it all. I think for me, I felt a sense of some sort of identity or self-knowledge about myself or others. But when you start to study, many authors will tell you so many conflicting information. And the most important thing, I found it foolishness to prejudge people based off their birth date! God is way bigger than that. When you get off into birth charting and astrology readings, you are leaning on another source or idol for knowledge and the Holy Spirit is not in that! He will give you the understanding that you need, tell you who to have in your circle, which job you should choose, and what He wants to prune or uproot off of you so that your character reflects Jesus Christ more and more. Satan is the ultimate identity thief so anything outside of the Word of God that will try to tell us who we are, should be researched and questioned before we try to attach ourselves to it.
Actually there is a difference between astronomy the study of the Stars and astrology nursing the stars for horoscopes which is a form of divination and is prohibited by YHWH
The Jewish feast of Pentecost (Shavuot) was primarily a thanksgiving for the firstfruits of the wheat harvest, but it was later associated with a remembrance of the Law given by God to Moses on Mount Sinai.
Please Pastor nothing relating to the moon is associated with the basic reason why the Jews celebrate as you are saying( 5:21 mins)?
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@@christianwood5320 please you can see some at Encyclopaedia Britannica
The Britannica is not the Bible please. We should allow the Bible to speak for itself and not the encyclopedia. This is why many à believer walk under the shadows of ignorance. We don't seek to know the truth in due diligent study if the word but then we make references from the things on the internet and the encyclopedia
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This is heretical:
Isaiah 47:13-14
"Let now the astrologers, the stargazers, the monthly prognosticators, stand up, and save thee from these things that shall come upon thee. Behold, they shall be as stubble; the fire shall burn them. "
2 Chronicles 33:2-9 - Astrology is grouped with spiritism, wizardy, human sacrifice and idolatry.
Under this wicked king, Judah became worse than all of those whom the Lord had destroyed before the children of Israel-the Canaanites, the Hivites, the Hittites. He seduced Judah into brazen idolatry and destroyed all of Hezekiah's good works. He used astrology, spiritism, wizardry, human sacrifice, erection of idol groves-and yet he repented in captivity.
Did you truly think through your comment before posting it. You didn’t even prove why they are heretical. You just gave out biblical passages and the made your own assertions , that’s all. No proof. 🤷🏻♂️
Thank you for this.
@@christianwood5320 Biblical passages that directly contradict what Pastor Obed claimed: that the Bible does not mention a single verse in opposition to the practice of astrology.
Manuel's Channel Okay......🙄. I’m waiting
@@christianwood5320 So it's false to say otherwise. He said he read through the entire Bible. It doesn't mean that he is a heretic, but it means he either wasn't diligent while reading or diligent in laying out his teaching.
But, I will give anyone that since the term 'astrology' is replaced with 'divination' and 'fortune-telling' in other translations of the Bible, that I still am not 100% sure about the legitimacy of it's use in the Bible.
I do, however, think its a little foolish to think that astrology, being an occult subject, should be counted completely out. I mean, all the other occult topics are practically there (In 2 Chronicles). Why should a person count it out simply because different translations don't mention it or I can't prove it's illegitimacy with some sort of documentation? It's pinching pennies. Looking for a reason for it's legitimacy.
My only point is that shalalala's post has value regardless of his/her ability to prove it. It's scripture. And scripture is not value-less. You just need to be willing to see it's value. That's all. No more, no less.
It has more to do with the heart than the head. Even though we try to and do convince ourselves otherwise.
So is God the Chief Astrologer ?
Precisely
In Genesis it states that God created the firmament with the sun moon and the stars and they are to be for signs seasons days. Many Bible verses including most of Revelation is actually referring to the Mazzoroth or astronomy as the firmament is a heavenly clock. Just as they knew when Jesus was being born by signs in the Stars so we also know of the sign of the son of man as spoken of in Matthew and Revelation which happened in 2017 (the woman travailing to give birth clothed in the sun with the moon at her feet in a crown of 12 stars on her head that happened in 2017)
We are not to use the firmament or the zodiac for astrology for telling futures and applying it to ourselves for horoscopes that would be wrong. We are however supposed to use it for signs and seasons and days and years and it's a lost art it's a lost knowledge and we need to regain it
1:36 Astrology and Astronomy are not the same, Man of God
Astrology is not a real science
Astronomy is a real science.
They are not the same
Exactly! God forgive me if I am wrong, but this sounds like a seed being planted by the wicked one to confuse baby Christians.
Astrology is a science though because it is based on mathematics and geometry and the relationship between the physical planets. From those relationships you get certain energies or qualities that then affect how events play out here on earth. So there is an order a natural and predictable movement of planetary bodies and alignments that can be clearly measured to produce certain qualities here on earth. It is a science because you can 'observe' it rationally with your senses and form conclusions. Because of this it makes it part of God's creation and should not be worshipped or treated as an idol meaning you have to realize tha God is still in control just because you can observe planetary movements and relationships and form conclusions doesn't make you a God or greater than God. You still have to bow down to God and depend on Him not astrology al alignments. This was the message God was giving to Job and in the book of Deuteronomy. The message wasn't to abstain from using it, it was to abstain from using it as the end all be all. Astrology is a tool and a language nothing else.
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