I own two of these, a full size and a compact. In stock form they are nice, but with a few Langdon Tactical goodies they are excellent. The compact is one of my favorite carry guns as well.
@@Deep.Purple Anything from LTT on a Beretta is world class. I have the Full Monty on the 92 Elite (trigger, NP3, RDO, slim grips…the works) and it is beyond amazing.
Try it with other ammo, HR. You might be shocked. Long-time pistol shooter and .40cal afficianado here. Recently got a Px4 in .40s&w for myself. I love it. HOWEVER, I almost blew a gasket at the range trying to print some slowfire groups standing at 10yds. After one hundred rounds of Winchester White Box 180gr FMJ, redoubling my focus on the fundamentals, and a lot of cursing, I was getting groups that would not shrink under ~5". It was miserable and I was starting to hate the gun. Then, for no particular reason, I went into the gunshop adjoining my range and bought a box of Norma 180gr FMJ. All three ten shot groups I fired standing and slow with it at the same distance were less than 3". I double checked my targets (thick tagboard). The winchesters were not stabilizing. Some were just barely showing signs of keyholing. I'm not sure if its the gun, current manufacturing standards of ammo, or both, but the Px4 .40 can shoot when you find the right ammo. Semper Fi
@@hrfunk UPDATE After some range testing, I think I've gotten to the bottom of the issue and wanted to post here. Bottom Line Up Front: It's the diameter of the bullets. My .40cal Px4 Storm does not like relatively undersized bullets. My Winchester White Box 180gr FMJ (which shoots well from my S&W 4006TSW but very poorly from my Px4) mic'd to 0.3959". My Blazer Brass and Fed. American Eagle 180 gr FMJ (which shot very well in both pistols) mic'd to 0.3990" and 0.3991", respectively. So it would appear the Px4 prefers ammo that is closer to 0.399" rather than 0.396".Might be worth getting out the calipers and trying it for yourself; your experience here could be that the Hop Munitions .40cal offering is toleranced just a bit too narrow for this pistol. Hope you give this Beretta another shot. S.F.
@@jonesclantd Thanks for the update, Paul. That is good information. I'll keep iot in mind if I give the PX4 another try. Aftyer this video, I returned the pistol to HOP munition. I don't know if they still have it or if it has been sold.
It's under rated, true BUT in 2023 the point is moot. Few PDs or military units supported PX4s. In 9x19mm or .40 calibers. Few holster or gear makers ran out to add PX4s. For the record: I got a NIB C model 9mm PX4 in 2009. This was the limited Constant Action system.
I agree. I have a Type D and I absolutely love it. I bought it used to be my sidearm back when I worked security and it served me very well at the time and still does now that I carry it only for EDC.
Yes indeed, underrated for sure. Purchased one in 2005, still going strong, roughly around 8,000 rounds and still shoots like brand new and after the first year or so, runs a lot smoother, soft shooting. My personal opinion, it feels very solid, accuracy is as good as any other Beretta and surpases many other one at almost twice the price and the feeling that I can trust it is immense. My dad use to tell me, "the best gun is the one you shoot the best with" and the PX4 is it! Beretta fan here, also have a 92A1 and the APX RDO. AN extra comment, I don't see myself picking a Glock before I pick the APX, another gem. Came out in 2010 I think, a year ago purhcased the PX4 Storm sub compact 9 mm, I call it my little pitbull, shoots and feel like the full size, excellent for a carry gun. Sorry for the long response, but the PX4 line deserve it, big time.
I've had PX4s in 9, 40, and 45 and by far the 9mm is the most pleasant and is the one I kept, I noticed you having some really weird keyholing issues on the shots the were way off from point of aim. You should try it with a different type of ammo to see if it still has that issue.
Love my PX4! I've had it 10 years , thousands of rounds. No issues. Eats any ammo I feed it. Steel , brass, aluminum, . Second most accurate pistol I own to a .357 SW police carry. I shoot the PX4 better then my Kimber 1911, my Taurus, or other Beretta's. It destroys bulls eyes at 21 ft. THis is my bug out bag gun.
Love the PX4, hope it gets the Beretta "A1" treatment. Not that I have anything wrong with the current gun, but I believe it's flown under the radar for most people, and the look is a common complaint.
You and me both brother but its dead in the water, Beretta said they have to plans to upgrade the storm, very sad. A nice stipple texturing like what they put on the echelon, stock tritium sights, factory D spring and an optic cut would really make this pistol one of the best appendix carry options out there. Best groups ive ever shot in my life were with a DA/SA was my 9mm Px4 compact. I actually have it on film. I was getting frustrated because i couldn’t see where my shots were going at 10yds. They were going through the same hole.
If that PX4 was brand new, it needs to be cleaned and lubed. If you did that then the stall in going into battery is odd. I have 3 PX4's and all have fantastic accuracy. Right up there with all my 92's. Maybe try different ammo.
The .40 cal is also available with a 14 round mag. There is a 17 round mag made for the CX4 storm as well that will fit the PX4. 14 rounds of .40 cal is excellent. 17 rounds for home defense is superb.
It’s neat how Beretta makes three different lines of service pistols with three completely different locking mechanisms. The 92 uses a Walther P38 style locking block. The PX4 uses a rotating barrel. And the APX uses a Browning style tilting barrel.
In 2023 no one really cares about PX4s. A few county & city LE units had them. 2000s 2010s. Most moved away from them. I owned a C or constant 9mm PX4 in 2009. Nice Beretta 9mm but nothing like a M&P, Glock 17-19-34.
I carry the 9m compact carry (trigger and internal springs\parts tricked up by LTT to be butter smooth). Absolutely the softest\most accurate 9mm semi I've ever encountered. Daily carry (and imo DA\SA is the best trigger solution for carry in civilian world.
I liked my PX4 Compact 9mm the first time I fired it. I noticed the slick grip, weird double action trigger position and long trigger reach too. Grip tape and using the small backstrap really helped me get a more comfortable grip. It is one of the most accurate pistols I have ever fired and for me it is a total, never sell, keeper. I have never fired a 40 or 45 version so I can't comment on recoil mitigation. The 9mm version I have has next to no recoil impulse. I also have never fired mine from a bench. Usually I go to the range to work on my skills with my handguns that are more difficult to master. I take the PX4 Compact 9mm to the range when I just want too have some fun.
I have the PX4 storm full size 9mm and it is spot on. Absolutely love this gun. I do believe the recoil is less with the rotating barrel. I can be on target much faster round after round. I also have the Beretta Nano 9mm and I am not really thrilled with it.
I like that one, I have a few 92s and other Italian shotguns , the Italians have pride and quality is paramount, I have Supersport that goes through thousands of rounds I use for depredation control and it has never failed to cycle even cheap dove loads.
Oh Mr HR. This was a tough one for me. I own 2 Storms, a full size and compact. Both of mine are from Langdon Tactical. I have no experience with a factory Storm, but the 2 I have came with the stealth leavers for the decocker and are G model. Mine have Ameriglo night sights and Langdon trigger job, and I put Talon grips on them. I wish I could hand you one of mine, because I would bet the farm that your experience would be completely different. Obviously Langdon saw the dated shortcomings of the Storm, but also it's potential. My compact is my EDC. I've handed it to countless people at the range who shot it for the first time and were very impressed. Your review was honest. I wish the Storm would have represented itself better for you.
I've had one for years and like it a lot. I consider the PX4 a late bloomer as people are still "discovering" it. I agree with HR on the slide serrations and rely on the bat wing safety levers for meat grab to rack the gun.
Agree on the decock lever: Highly recommend the Langdon Tactical "Carry Lever" that is a Goldilocks solution: easy to manipulate without thinking about it; does not take off any parts of the fingers working the lever or incidentally while manipulating the slide. The other end of the spectrum is the "Stealth Lever", which is flat and recessed into the lever arc: can be very difficult to manipulate, especially with hands oily or sweaty. Moreover, the factory hammer spring is criminally excessive: may contribute to poorer results. It reliably ignites primers with substantially lighter hammer springs. In my hands, the full and compact have the very unique behavior of reduced flip and recoil compared to heavier and larger DA/SA browning tilt-lock pistols. Initially I was very skeptical of what I thought to be an obscure creature, but these pistols (LTT versions) have earned permanent places in my safe/holster. That's a high bar. Sorry the experience here was unexpectedly poor.
Thank you for the review. As others have stated, it is a very underrated handgun. I have one in full size in 40 S&W and I love it. Its a bit heavy and bulky for IWB CCW, but fine for OWB with some kind of leather pancake type holster. To keep weight down, I prefer a 135-150 gr load. I like the Supervel 125 gr for CCW/home defense or Barnes 140g TAC-XPD. Stay away from 180 gr loads unless you have specific need for it. Shop around for 125-155 gr loads. I reload, so I can load lighter loads than the common 180s. I pack it in a Winthrop leather pancake type holster. Keep practicing and get a feel for how it functions with the rotating barrel. Yea, the trigger needs a different design altogether. Its not a competitive pistol tack driver, but quite accurate for service/range/home protection or CCW if you can handle the weight and size. I'd like to buy the compact version for CCW someday. And the PX4 is very reliable!!! Great video!
I brought my CX4 Storm carbine down from the mountain slung over my shoulder, riding my snowmobile today. Talk about a "different Beretta". It's got a heavy, creepy, plastic trigger but is otherwise a spectacular firearm.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Langdon has brought them back, and they sell a lot of them. I have Langdon's PX4 CC, and I have Langdon's P30SK with the optics cut, and the GG flat trigger. They are very close in terms of accuracy. Ernest Langdon claims that his personal PX4 CC has 60,000 rounds through it with no malfunctions/parts issues.
One of the easiest slides to rack on any hammer fired gun. Got my wife the compact 9mm model a while back. She's 4'10 with little baby hands and had no issue pulling the slide back while the hammer was down. Even my mom who has issues racking the slide on striker fired guns was able to chamber a round. No experience with the sub compact so don't know how it compares since it doesn't have the rotating barrel like the larger models do.
That is an amazing tool. With the LTT trigger kit it is amazing imo. I would really like the compact version from LTT. It is waaaaaay past time for Beretta to offer a v. 2.0. Please bring to market Beretta.
I have had one in .40 since 2008 like the gun but it's not you pulling your shots mine is not pin-point accuate at distance but don't think that's what it was made for. As far as the decocker I am pretty sure you can get smaller one's. I just ground mine down myself you don't use them much only when holstring or laying at the house. I didn't see you show the half-cocked position witch is one of the things I like about the gun that is how I keep it. Too big & heavy to cc thats what my M&P9+ with c/t laser is for good out to about 50'. Btw my PX4 has 14rd magazine's. Great video review👍
i have the full size 9mm, and love it. Beretta does offer low profile decocker/slide stop kit, worth it! You can also exchange the hammer spring with one of another Beretta pistol for a softer trigger pull. I believe its a cougar model hammer spring, but don't quote me.
Picked up a PX-4 Compact Carry a few months which is the brain child of Langdon Tactical and Beretta and I love it. The compact carry has a number of different parts (most of which are Beretta factory parts) over the standard PX-4 which in my opinion are essential to bring out the true potential of this firearm. The safety decocker levers are of the G type (decock only) and are nearly flush with the slide making over hand slide manipulations much easier. The ambidextrous slide stop levers are exchanged for a low profile single lever on the left side of the frame and a plug installed on the opposite side. They sights are Langdon Tactical night sights with a blacked out rear and a Tridium front with a high vis orange circle around the tridium insert. The trigger is the Beretta competition trigger which smooths out the double action pull by a noticeable amount, and reduces the single action to around 4 lbs. Beretta also includes a set of Talon grips if you prefer a better grip as the factory grip is quite slick. I'm wondering if the ammo you're using just doesn't seem to like that particular firearm. I've fired a few different factory loads through my PX-4 Compact Carry including Sellier and Bellot, Blazer Brass, and some Federal with outstanding accuracy at distances all the way out to 25 yards.
I just bought one about a week ago. A very good friend of mine that's been into firearms and gunsmithing for about 45 years says it's one of his two favorite automatics. And considering how many guns he has, that's saying something. Went out and shot it stock. (After a good cleaning of course). It's a beautiful gun that shoots very well and comfortable for a 9mm. Action is glass slick even before being broke in. After I got home, I started replacing and adding a few new components. Swapped out the medium backstrap for the large one, put a Hogue Handall rubber grip on it, and most importantly, dropped in a Langdon Tactical "Trigger job in a bag" (That was highly recommended by my friend and just about everybody else I talked to, including Beretta themselves) Took it back out to the range. Holy Moly. What a difference. The grip felt much better and solid in my hand, but the new trigger is worth every penny. A easier and smoother double action pull, but the single action is about the best I've ever experienced in a gun of that type. Light, crisp clean, with a very short reset. I couldn't believe how fast I was able to get shots on target. It is now my new favorite companion. 😃
@@hrfunk Thank you. I'm sure it will. But I'm not quite done with the modifications and I've got a nice tac light and a custom holster coming in the next week or two. Have a great day!
I truly enjoyed this video. Great job with it. I use 155 grain new brass full metal jackets. And then I would carry the 165gr critical defense for protection. I have found that this handgun is very accurate. I put bullet holes inside of bullet holes with this thing. It’s crazy how accurate it is that’s why I’m surprised that you were having issues at 15 yards with that gun. But who knows ,it wasn’t anything you were doing wrong. I really enjoy caring this gun and it works well. I shoot at least over 2000 rounds a year out of it plus at least three or 4000 dry fires a year out of it. I want to mention something very important to happen to me with this gun in case anybody else has this trouble. After I first got it after about 100 -150 rounds or so I would have failure to feed issues. I went to the gunsmith several times about it, and they polished the chamber and the chamber Ramp feeding ramp which did help. He also altered the ejector rod that kicks out the old brass. But that was not the problem either . if you ever have a failure to feed issue, I highly recommend that you polish the breach face with a Dremel not by hand. I use Fritz metal polish, and I polish the breach plate. Then, I cleaned up by hand ,then I took milspec gun grease and applied it to the breach plate and I worked it in again using the Dremel tool. And that fix the problem. I have had no problems with the gun since I did that and I have shot it thousands of times .I scoured the Internet trying to find the answer. I found very little on this problem. I called Barretta. They were very polite but they were not helpful. The man said he was going to get back to me with some ideas ,he never did. Basically they said you could send the gun in and we’ll send another one .I did not want to go through all that because I went through the trouble of putting the Langdon competition trigger assembly and transfer bar in this gun which I highly recommend. This gun if you’re going to buy it, I recommend that you get the earnest Langdon competition trigger assembly group because of the very long hard trigger pole on this gun because it was meant for the military.
I remember these pistols coming out but never have owned one. I was always a Ruger P series (89, 95, etc.) kind of guy. They weren't super refined but were cheaper and reliable.
Coincidentally, I saw a used Ruger P89 for sale in a used gun case yesterday. The price was $275. I thought about picking it up (mostly out of nostalgia), but I decided to pass.
I have had several 89's 95's over the years and never had one that didn't function properly and shoot well. Great option for the money. Sorry they discontinued that model.
Thanks for the video. I have had my PX4 Storm in 9mm for about 4 years now. I bought it with the intentions that if the Poo ever did hit the fan that it would be my primary. Let's hope that never happens. I shoot it every couple of months to keep in tune. I do think it would make an excellent officers firearm due to the DA/SA. I personally think they are safer in green to red situations. But that is my opinion. However, as a civilian, I find myself carrying my Mossberg MC1sc or MC2c more than anything else. I do carry various others including revolvers. Sometimes us older guys like to carry a wheel gun. But the Beretta PX4 is a very nice option. For me it is in the do not sell or trade list. Very nice show and tell.
@@hrfunk I really like mine. 1. They are dependable, no jams or feed issues. Not once out of both pistols the entire time of ownership 2. Accurate 3. big dot sights for my old eyes 4. very nice flat face trigger, I like the way it breaks 5. The palm swell fits in my hand well, and textured enough to be grippy, but not rough 6. thin enough for conceal carry 7. smooth enough that it does not dig into me when inside the waist band 8. last but not least is the take down. Now this one sold me because of a Ruger I had. I bought an EC9s and shot it for a while, I carried it for a couple of weeks and found out I had been carrying a firearm with a broken striker. Ruger fixed it, so no problems there, but the way the Mossberg takes down I can inspect it very easily. Since the Ruger it makes me feel better.
It’s on my list of pistols to get. I personally like the carry size that’s slightly smaller than full-size. I think it would make a great carry. Definitely overlooked gem, but I need to shoot it before I commit to buying one.
I would encourage you to do so. It seems as though my own experience with this handgun as well as those expressed by many here in the comment section have been quite mixed.
I was at a range, and I saw someone that had both the full size and the compact model of PX4 Storm. He let me shoot them. At first the compact shot low, but once I got accustomed to the sights it shot well. I have to say that I did not notice any significant recoil reduction with the rotating barrel. What was really interesting is that the person that owned the Beretta pistols shot my CZ P10C pistol, and he shredded the bulls eye. Sometimes a pistol just matches the shooter. That's why I keep trying out different firearms. So far the Staccato P pistol and the CZ Shadow 2 are the best pistols that I have fired, but the search continues for a more reasonably priced pistol. Thanks for all of your reviews of the various firearms that you are show casing.
I’ve got the full-size in 9mm which is butter-smooth and 2 subcompacts which kick like donkeys because they don’t have the mass nor the rotating barrel. Agreed that the grip texturing should be more aggressive-if you get oily and sweaty hands then that polymer grip is slippery as a dildo. Wait, I meant 😂
All PX4 F models can be converted to a G model by removing a detent. A G conversion and lower profile levers (easily available) really improve the pistol. The gray cerekote on an LTT PX4 is also much less slick. The Compact has a fully ambidextrous slide stop. A stipple job or Talon grips are a must.
I have had this pistol for the past 5 years and have never experienced any malfunctions. I had a 92fs before that. But PX4 Storm is better and more smooth than that.
This is one pistol I'd always wished I'd had a chance to try. DA format (which I like) and available in large calibres than 9mm. Looking forward to your thoughts on this one.
I own two (a full size and a sub compact) in 9mm. They are my absolute favorites and the sub compact is my carry. For some reason, these guns check all the boxes for me.
Hey HR, thanks for another great video. I happen to like the PX4; I actually bought 2, one in 9mm and one in 40 S&W. The first time I picked one up it felt like a part of my hand and that is perhaps why I am more comfortable with the pistol. I do like the safety/decocker lever the way it is. As my hands become more arthritic it helps me to have an "ear" to hook my finger over as I rack the slide. M-9's and Walther P-38's also are easier for me to rack for this reason. I am no great shot, but the good fit of this gun seems to help my accuracy. These are incredibly durable guns, too. There are videos of the thing being pulled out of muddy water and fired, and one sample supposedly has had over 150,000 rounds put through it with little or no apparent wear. Who knows? Anyway, thanks again! --Old Guy
Excellent review HR. Showed enough detail for me to think it is not a pistol I would be particularly interested in. Saw one in 9mm a friend had couple of years ago, thought that then and your great review has confirmed.
I guess I'll have to add to the fanboy crowd! I have 2 full size PX4s, 9mm with many thousands of reliable rounds through them. I have used them in many IDPA, USPSA matches and several training classes all with complete reliability. I found the accuracy issues you were having as odd. I'm no super accurate shooter but mine seem to do fine in the accuracy department, as well as I can anyway. I agree with you that the grip texture is too slick. I have Traction Grips on mine and it helps a lot. I have larger than average hands but short fingers and use the small back strap. I also changed mine from a F model to G model. Another upgrade in my opinion. I also changed out the bat wing decocker for the Beretta decocker G safety levers. They have just a little bit of a curved, textured lip that works great but is slim and not in the way. Thanks for another great review! PS: the slide serrations could be more positive too.
Great video. I considered buying a PX4 9mm DAO once. It reminded me a lot of the Ruger P95 that I had traded off years before. But I just didn't like the smoothness of the grip and the chunkiness of the design. It made the P95 look svelte. It's still a good gun. But I prefer the Beretta 92-style and the Ruger P-series guns more....
I do private security & Im a US Army veteran. 4yr. 🪖 I owned a new 9mm Beretta PX4 C or constant. This was a special DA only type format Beretta offered for around 2yr. The gun was robust, well made but not really on the level of VP9s, PPQs, SIGs, M&Ps.
I bought one in .40 years ago when they first hit the market. The point of aim/impact was 8" low and 6" left out of the box. I sold it and never looked at this thing again.
Thanks a lot for this complete review! I've tested one chambered in 9 mm. This is the new short weapon of Romanian Police and I was curious about how it shoots. It seemed to be a little bit more accurate to me but I absolutely agree with what you said about this pistol's ergonomy. Those safeties are really sharp.
As always excellent review. With items noted will look to purchase and send to Langdon for their special treatments. Thanks so much and keep reviews coming.
When I first got my first PX4 I had the same accuracy problems. It takes some familiarization to get really good with. It's too slick and moves a bit in the hand. Some grip tape or a Talon grip will help immensely.
I suspect that is true. I have a feeling that this is one of those handguns that, if someone dedicate themselves to, it can be a pretty good performer.
The right back strap for your hand makes a big difference in consistency, and mine took some break-in and familiarization time on the range. It's a very good EDC. The safety feels like it was made for gloved hands. Only sharp edge on the thing.
After my initial rounds through my compact I'm thinking it needs Talon grip tape. I'm a little disappointed in the accuracy so far, especially when shooting fast.
I revisited this video tonight because I just bought a used PX4 Storm in 40 S&W. My range had both the 40 S&W and 9mm used for sale, so I took the opportunity to try them both. To me, the 40 S&W felt much better than the 9mm so I made a trade on a 22 LR pistol, added some cash and walked away happy. My experience with accuracy was very different from yours. At five yards I blew out a 1-1/2 bullseye with one flyer about 3/4-in away. Accuracy seemed spot on out to 15 yards and I'll do some more testing at 25 the next time I get to the range. That said, I think my hands are considerably bigger (I wear XXL gloves) and I suspect that has something to do with accuracy with this handgun.
Love em, want an LTT one :) However I'll admit I'm a huge Beretta fanboy as I trusted my M9 in the Navy every day and shoot them well (because of all the practice I have with them is all really; maybe the non-moving barrel helps but it's probably just all the training) :)
Shooting cold - no prior experience - is fair since a friend or family member might need to pick up your pistol in haste. But I think you should also retest after a couple hundred rounds.
@@hrfunkwe all have our individual preferences.that’s for sure. Thx for sharing a look at this gun. There aren’t many handguns that have rotating barrels but they are intriguing. I’d like to try the 2 handguns ,that I know about,that have them & see how both feel. The Grand Powers now have the 2 different designs .At least on the competition model... The way the earlier version is designed and built with the bull barrel , (going solely by what I’ve seen online, is the one I’d most likely choose if I was actively searching for one too buy.Which I am not,at this particular time ).But I’ve never seen any of the GP models in a store & I’m not holding my breath .The Storms are interesting too.As far as possibly carrying one,there shape is interesting. More curves and rounded edges than a lot of other simi auto pistols.. Not many people pay attention to much of anything for the most part.Rounder ,curved guns ,in the right spot and right holster (Think round butt revolvers) seem to blend in better in some cases)Then there’s the Stoegars(sp?) .Think they have some rotating barrel options too.& possibly others.?.again ,not actively shopping ,but when I get back in the market, I’ll do some more homework.Saving my shillings for a rainy day for right now. Have more than enough good guns for right now. Do have a short list (approximately 4-6 that I’ll most likely get .when I come across them & the time is right .)some handguns, 1 PCC & 1-2 rifles..Have had my eye on them for a while now. There’s no shortage of guns available. In no big hurry .Don’t compete & more of a accumulator of guns than a collector..Doesn’t hurt to check out the pre owned gun section now& then to see what you might find. Take care and enjoy this beautiful weather. It’s going to be a warm one this summer i have a feeling.
I own a Px4 and I can tell you this....there is a learning curve with this gun. I couldn't hit anything with it for the first couple of times I took it to the range. I was hooking them to the left and high. I worked on it and figured it out. Now I can handle it very well. You might spend a bit on ammo before you get good though.
I will say, I got a used PX4 and with a 12lb Wilson hammer spring, the trigger is amazing. Added the LTT trigger bar which shortens reset. Smooth light DA, crisp light short SA. Didn't see the need for the LTT trigger group.
The answer is in front of you. The accuracy I'm betting would be better with 155gr or 165 gr. Thats what I've experienced with 40 S&W. 180 gr is the low ranker when it comes to 40 S&W. None of the PD''s around here use 180 gr.
Good review, and thanks to HOP for sponsoring this episode. I agree with HR that as he was shooting from the table that it seemed that he was "rushing" the shots, as the pistol seemed to be recoiling slower than his shooting tempo. At first I thought he was just experiencing break-in problems and that by the end of his shooing that maybe he'd re-shoot the accuracy test from the table. Never mind, I was being overly optimistic. His shooting at the clean area of the target answered that question.
I’ll offer a not-too-relevant comment, but one based on experiences with a semiautomatic that doubtless shoots a LOT better, for many individuals, than it does for me. To begin, I have never fired a PX4 Storm, so the following remark is potentially more for general autoloader interest, than it is specific to the Storm. As Howard was concluding this video and discussing his overall impressions of the Storm, a large bell sounded in my mind, followed with the thought that HR was evaluating MY (not anyone else’s) experiences with the Glock 36. I purchased a G36 (single stack, 6+1 capacity, 3.8 inch barrel, chambered in .45 ACP) many years ago, with high hopes that it would be my EDC forever. After all, I reasoned (fundamentally, as a “revolver guy”) that 6+1 was plenty for my probable defensive circumstances, that 200 grain .45 ACP loads would work well from a short barrel, that it was modestly concealable, and that Glock had a deserved reputation for reliability and durability. Unfortunately, it was an accuracy and a reliability disaster . . . but, like HR’s experiences with the Storm, more so when deliberately firing for precision than when just shooting rapidly for defensive-level accuracy. I ascribed this to poor ergonomics, leading to limp-wristing, and then to occasional failures to return to battery (especially when I was slowly concentrating for bullseye accuracy). My son and daughter-in-law love their G36 and they fire it with excellent accuracy and reliability . . . so these issues clearly were (and are) mine alone. However, they again demonstrates that a “firearm’s systems” includes many components . . . the shooter is doubtless the most critical one, and this there are no universal “one size fits all” solutions.
Well stated Roy. I have experienced this phenomenon a few times over the years. Most recently with the Lionheart Regulus, and now the PX4 Storm. I have no doubt that if I dedicated my efforts to one or the other of those handguns, I could master it. However, I am more of a generalist. I fire most conventional handguns (at least) adequately, but sometimes the less conventional models don't work, particularly well in my hands. That's why I didn't want to completely condemn the PX4. In someone else's hands, it might be a stellar performer.
I agree, Howard; the fact that X may not easily meet our standards (and hopes) doesn’t mean it won’t be ideal for many others. Still, imho, so many competitive offerings do meet our criteria that I’m not going to squander my time and money trying to make X acceptable.
I owned one of these in 9mm a few years back. The trigger to me felt "weird", at least in comparison to Beretta 92s, hammer fired SIGs, CZs, etc. I could never get into a good rhythm doing shooting drills with the Storm. As you point out, I think the shape and reach of the trigger has something to do with it, at least if you are used to shooting other guns. Not a bad gun, and I can believe they are pretty durable, but I would always take an M9 or 92FS over one of these if I had the chance.
i have owned a LTT PX4 compact in 9mm for a couple years now. Never 1 problem with the PX4. Excellent carry firearm. Fits my hands perfectly. Good capacity, accurate and fast shooting with the smooth Langdon trigger and super short reset on the trigger. Maybe the rotating trigger does lessen recoil because it doesn't seem to recoil much at all. Added some Talon grips for a better hand purchase.
I looked at the .45 PX4 as a possible duty pistol several years ago. I’ve carried both a S&W 645 and a Ruger P90 on duty but wished for higher capacity than either offered. Just couldn’t get over my aversion to polymer frames and I much prefer the 90 series Berettas, either in .40 or 9mm.
I bought a used Glock 41 .45acp gen 4. I added new Tru Glo Pro orange sights, new KKM match barrel, new Glock Store stainless steel recoil guide rod. The Glock 41s are big but cycle, work well.
Been wanting one since 2016 and finally took the plunge. Found one with new tritium sights, original box with manual and 2 mags for $450! I've been carrying the 92fs Compact for 5 years now. Cant wait to feel the difference in weight between the two! Great video.
Apparently this is Beretta's second foray into rotating barrel lockup pistols. A hunting buddy of mine bought the first model Beretta Cougar 8040 with the same action in shorty 40. From what I remember of it, the accuracy was good at least in my hands. The recoil was "different". I don't recall the muzzle rise as being much different than any other locked breech pistol but seemed to be about as controllable as any other dropping barrel or locking block design such as the Walther P-38 or Beretta M9/92 design. The grips on the Cougar were almost Beretta 92 in texture and felt okay. I like that the PX series decocker is reshaped a bit from the 92-I had a Beretta Vertec and while I liked the pistol generally, the 92 style decocking lever didn't much like me as it seemed to activate when I didn't mean to. I know-training issue lol. If Beretta would look at the Ruger P89 decocking lever for example, it actually becomes a benefit in fast racking the slide without engaging the decocking feature. We tried handloading ammo for the Cougar but it would not feed what I would consider softball loads-failures to feed were common until we went well above starting charges, somewhere between mid point and max before it fed and ejected correctly. I suspect the PX4 could benefit with a decent grease on the slide channels cut to rotate the bolt as my friend's Cougar did and maybe cut down on the felt "extra time" it takes for the PX to cycle. Great review sir!
The PX4 Storm Compact is what my daughter researched and bought for her first handgun. Ergonomics are different, but it introduced me to Beretta. I since bought a 92FS, 85 Cheetah, and the 950 Jetfire. Love them all, but the PX4 still feels weird.
I have the PX4 CC from Langdon Tactical, and I love it. Very flat-shooting, and a pleasure to take to the range. The PX4 didn't do well in Military Arms Channel torture/gauntlet test, due to sand/mud getting into the rotating barrel, but the pistol shoots great if you don't drop it in the river. My PX4 CC is in my carry rotation. Love it.
I like your vid, but I think as you use it more you will like it. The compact 40 is my chosen gun for carry, for it is always on target after the 1st shot, it maintains on target every time after that. Put a laser on it and you will be surprised on what it will do. Old Master Gunnery SGT USMC.
I had one in 9mm, and got rid of it quick. It was a one-shot wonder. 1sr shot, if in DA, was always spot on, but the rest were horrible. It actually shot as bad as my Steyr m95 carbine, which only has a memory of rifling inside. Felt great in the hand, and was good for quick draw drills, but show's over just as quick.
Works best as a starter Pistol for new Shooters. Can get modifications done to improve things overall speaking but mostly the Slide Disconnect is good for new Shooters wanting a Manual Safety and in 9mm reasonably cheap to shoot as it gets these days.
I own the compact in 9mm and it is the best gun I ever owned. Accuracy is great and recoil is extremely manageable. I have done several improvements to it as described in several videos making it even better.
I did a first shots vid renting a .45 a few years back. I want to try one in .40. It's just a tad too big too heavy not sure if I would carry it, and boy do they need a 2.0 version (like the p2000) w better updated grip modules with texture so you don't need grip tape. I think you would like the Rossi .357 I have been doing vids on. Getting it worked on and some upgrades I liked it so much.
Love my PX4’s in 9mm full size and sub compact. Also enjoy shooting the CX4 with them. Biggest wish for the 12-14 years that I’ve had, threaded barrels for suppressed shooting. Hate the goofy curved trigger.
9:50 The problem with the equipment rail is that you can not attach a standard weapon light because the trigger guard is too wide on the upper front side (big corner radius). I own the Beretta Px4 Storm SD (.45 ACP), but I can not get used to it. Unlike my other pistols like Glock 40, HK P30L or HK 45 the Beretta Px4 doesn't fit well/comfortable in my hand. As you already mention it, the grip is also quite slippery and the slide handling are very uncomfortable because of the sharp-edged safety lever. I prefer a lot more my old Beretta 92 FS from the 90s (straight dust cover). By the way, if you think you're a bad shooter with the Beretta PX4. My shooting accuracy is way better with my Glock 30 than with the Beretta PX4. And the Glock 30 is a very compact gun for closest distance!
I bought a PX4 in 9mm when it first came out. I carried & shot it quite a bit for a couple of years. It was a really nice pistol. Comfortable & soft recoiling. I traded it up for something else that I can’t recall? Wish I still had it.
This is the best, most thorough review of this gun that I have seen. I will still consider the PX4. Perhaps I can find one to try before I make a decision to purchase. Thanks for all that you do.
It is one of the best yet most unappreciated Berettas. But for the people who know, know. I love these. Some don't like them because they don't behave like a Browning action. But once you adjust, you're cutting paper at 20-30yds. Easily.
PX4 has the distinction, of being the pistol I needed to defend myself, once upon a time, great gun but being mostly poly. Recoil somewhat aggressive recoil even for big dude. Swapped for the REM R1 1911 with a crap trigger and was happier.
Great review! I appreciate your forthrightness regarding the unusual characteristics of the PX4 Storm. I was thinking that it would be interesting to test it with other brands of factory ammunition for comparison. I became a fan of Beretta when I bought a model 90-Two, which I like to say is more accurate than I am, in regard to how my accuracy improves when I shoot it vs. my Glock.
I had a love, hate with the one I had. At the time, I wasn't into guns life I am now. It was all I needed for range, carry, and nightstand usage. But I had nightmares that I'd be in a situation where I needed it and I'd forget the safety, or the double action trigger was so heavy that I'd pull and pull and pull without it going off. Those nightmares were what led me to sell it.
Instead of putting out a dozen new 92f variants in the last couple years I wish they would give us a updated PX4.
Yea with some color variations and motives grip stippling would be nice. Flared magwell extended mags
Lol guess what
@@gongusdeedeetow1510No guesses…what?
Berrera just released a new updated model. Px4 G-SD "Super Duty" with LTT upgrades
They did it's called the PX4 G-Super Duty and the PX4 Compact Carry 2.
I own two of these, a full size and a compact. In stock form they are nice, but with a few Langdon Tactical goodies they are excellent. The compact is one of my favorite carry guns as well.
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Which goodies did you get from Langdon?
How concealable is the compact?
@@Deep.Purple Anything from LTT on a Beretta is world class. I have the Full Monty on the 92 Elite (trigger, NP3, RDO, slim grips…the works) and it is beyond amazing.
Did your accuracy improve with the Langdon tactical guns over the stock PX4
Try it with other ammo, HR. You might be shocked.
Long-time pistol shooter and .40cal afficianado here. Recently got a Px4 in .40s&w for myself. I love it.
HOWEVER, I almost blew a gasket at the range trying to print some slowfire groups standing at 10yds. After one hundred rounds of Winchester White Box 180gr FMJ, redoubling my focus on the fundamentals, and a lot of cursing, I was getting groups that would not shrink under ~5". It was miserable and I was starting to hate the gun.
Then, for no particular reason, I went into the gunshop adjoining my range and bought a box of Norma 180gr FMJ. All three ten shot groups I fired standing and slow with it at the same distance were less than 3".
I double checked my targets (thick tagboard). The winchesters were not stabilizing. Some were just barely showing signs of keyholing.
I'm not sure if its the gun, current manufacturing standards of ammo, or both, but the Px4 .40 can shoot when you find the right ammo.
Semper Fi
Thanks Paul. Semper Fi!
@@hrfunk UPDATE
After some range testing, I think I've gotten to the bottom of the issue and wanted to post here.
Bottom Line Up Front: It's the diameter of the bullets. My .40cal Px4 Storm does not like relatively undersized bullets.
My Winchester White Box 180gr FMJ (which shoots well from my S&W 4006TSW but very poorly from my Px4) mic'd to 0.3959". My Blazer Brass and Fed. American Eagle 180 gr FMJ (which shot very well in both pistols) mic'd to 0.3990" and 0.3991", respectively. So it would appear the Px4 prefers ammo that is closer to 0.399" rather than 0.396".Might be worth getting out the calipers and trying it for yourself; your experience here could be that the Hop Munitions .40cal offering is toleranced just a bit too narrow for this pistol. Hope you give this Beretta another shot.
S.F.
@@jonesclantd Thanks for the update, Paul. That is good information. I'll keep iot in mind if I give the PX4 another try. Aftyer this video, I returned the pistol to HOP munition. I don't know if they still have it or if it has been sold.
@@jonesclantd Have you ever shot a HK USP 40 S&W or a SIG P226 40 S&W? I want to buy a 40 S&W but am not sure which one to get. Thanks.
@@jonesclantd Or do you think the PX4 is better than the HK or SIG?
Px4 storm is a very underrated firearm in my opinion.
I agree. I had one in 40SW, very nice gun.
It's under rated, true BUT in 2023 the point is moot. Few PDs or military units supported PX4s. In 9x19mm or .40 calibers. Few holster or gear makers ran out to add PX4s. For the record: I got a NIB C model 9mm PX4 in 2009. This was the limited Constant Action system.
I agree. I have a Type D and I absolutely love it. I bought it used to be my sidearm back when I worked security and it served me very well at the time and still does now that I carry it only for EDC.
It sure is.
Yes indeed, underrated for sure. Purchased one in 2005, still going strong, roughly around 8,000 rounds and still shoots like brand new and after the first year or so, runs a lot smoother, soft shooting. My personal opinion, it feels very solid, accuracy is as good as any other Beretta and surpases many other one at almost twice the price and the feeling that I can trust it is immense. My dad use to tell me, "the best gun is the one you shoot the best with" and the PX4 is it! Beretta fan here, also have a 92A1 and the APX RDO. AN extra comment, I don't see myself picking a Glock before I pick the APX, another gem. Came out in 2010 I think, a year ago purhcased the PX4 Storm sub compact 9 mm, I call it my little pitbull, shoots and feel like the full size, excellent for a carry gun. Sorry for the long response, but the PX4 line deserve it, big time.
I've had PX4s in 9, 40, and 45 and by far the 9mm is the most pleasant and is the one I kept, I noticed you having some really weird keyholing issues on the shots the were way off from point of aim. You should try it with a different type of ammo to see if it still has that issue.
It’s just an optical illusion caused by the plywood target board. There was no evidence of keyholing.
Love my PX4! I've had it 10 years , thousands of rounds. No issues. Eats any ammo I feed it. Steel , brass, aluminum, . Second most accurate pistol I own to a .357 SW police carry. I shoot the PX4 better then my Kimber 1911, my Taurus, or other Beretta's. It destroys bulls eyes at 21 ft. THis is my bug out bag gun.
I got one today. Found 3 used @ my Cabelas. People don't know what these ugly ducklings are.😀👍
Love the PX4, hope it gets the Beretta "A1" treatment. Not that I have anything wrong with the current gun, but I believe it's flown under the radar for most people, and the look is a common complaint.
You and me both brother but its dead in the water, Beretta said they have to plans to upgrade the storm, very sad. A nice stipple texturing like what they put on the echelon, stock tritium sights, factory D spring and an optic cut would really make this pistol one of the best appendix carry options out there. Best groups ive ever shot in my life were with a DA/SA was my 9mm Px4 compact. I actually have it on film. I was getting frustrated because i couldn’t see where my shots were going at 10yds. They were going through the same hole.
If that PX4 was brand new, it needs to be cleaned and lubed. If you did that then the stall in going into battery is odd. I have 3 PX4's and all have fantastic accuracy. Right up there with all my 92's. Maybe try different ammo.
The .40 cal is also available with a 14 round mag. There is a 17 round mag made for the CX4 storm as well that will fit the PX4.
14 rounds of .40 cal is excellent. 17 rounds for home defense is superb.
It’s neat how Beretta makes three different lines of service pistols with three completely different locking mechanisms. The 92 uses a Walther P38 style locking block. The PX4 uses a rotating barrel. And the APX uses a Browning style tilting barrel.
It almost seems like they’ve been building firearms for a while.
@@hrfunk
“Johnny come lately” in the industry . . . didn’t Christopher Columbus have one in his belt when he crossed the Atlantic?
@@roykiefer7713 No, but the pistol did have a barrel from Beretta, I forget who made the lock.
I thought that was Leif Erikson.
In 2023 no one really cares about PX4s. A few county & city LE units had them. 2000s 2010s. Most moved away from them. I owned a C or constant 9mm PX4 in 2009. Nice Beretta 9mm but nothing like a M&P, Glock 17-19-34.
I carry the 9m compact carry (trigger and internal springs\parts tricked up by LTT to be butter smooth). Absolutely the softest\most accurate 9mm semi I've ever encountered. Daily carry (and imo DA\SA is the best trigger solution for carry in civilian world.
Good for you, Larry. I'm glad that works so well for you.
it's not 100% perfect, but it's close. And the peace of mind and relaxed confidence carrying this gun is invaluable to me.
I liked my PX4 Compact 9mm the first time I fired it. I noticed the slick grip, weird double action trigger position and long trigger reach too. Grip tape and using the small backstrap really helped me get a more comfortable grip. It is one of the most accurate pistols I have ever fired and for me it is a total, never sell, keeper.
I have never fired a 40 or 45 version so I can't comment on recoil mitigation. The 9mm version I have has next to no recoil impulse. I also have never fired mine from a bench.
Usually I go to the range to work on my skills with my handguns that are more difficult to master. I take the PX4 Compact 9mm to the range when I just want too have some fun.
I have the PX4 storm full size 9mm and it is spot on. Absolutely love this gun. I do believe the recoil is less with the rotating barrel. I can be on target much faster round after round. I also have the Beretta Nano 9mm and I am not really thrilled with it.
I like that one, I have a few 92s and other Italian shotguns , the Italians have pride and quality is paramount, I have Supersport that goes through thousands of rounds I use for depredation control and it has never failed to cycle even cheap dove loads.
That reset is audible from the planet Mars!
Oh Mr HR. This was a tough one for me. I own 2 Storms, a full size and compact. Both of mine are from Langdon Tactical. I have no experience with a factory Storm, but the 2 I have came with the stealth leavers for the decocker and are G model. Mine have Ameriglo night sights and Langdon trigger job, and I put Talon grips on them. I wish I could hand you one of mine, because I would bet the farm that your experience would be completely different. Obviously Langdon saw the dated shortcomings of the Storm, but also it's potential. My compact is my EDC. I've handed it to countless people at the range who shot it for the first time and were very impressed. Your review was honest. I wish the Storm would have represented itself better for you.
As I mentioned at the end of the video, I think this pistol might work better for some shooters than it does for others. I’m glad it works for you!
I've had one for years and like it a lot. I consider the PX4 a late bloomer as people are still "discovering" it. I agree with HR on the slide serrations and rely on the bat wing safety levers for meat grab to rack the gun.
Agree on the decock lever: Highly recommend the Langdon Tactical "Carry Lever" that is a Goldilocks solution: easy to manipulate without thinking about it; does not take off any parts of the fingers working the lever or incidentally while manipulating the slide. The other end of the spectrum is the "Stealth Lever", which is flat and recessed into the lever arc: can be very difficult to manipulate, especially with hands oily or sweaty. Moreover, the factory hammer spring is criminally excessive: may contribute to poorer results. It reliably ignites primers with substantially lighter hammer springs. In my hands, the full and compact have the very unique behavior of reduced flip and recoil compared to heavier and larger DA/SA browning tilt-lock pistols. Initially I was very skeptical of what I thought to be an obscure creature, but these pistols (LTT versions) have earned permanent places in my safe/holster. That's a high bar. Sorry the experience here was unexpectedly poor.
Me too. I always hope the firearms I review will be stellar performers.
Thank you for the review. As others have stated, it is a very underrated handgun. I have one in full size in 40 S&W and I love it. Its a bit heavy and bulky for IWB CCW, but fine for OWB with some kind of leather pancake type holster. To keep weight down, I prefer a 135-150 gr load. I like the Supervel 125 gr for CCW/home defense or Barnes 140g TAC-XPD. Stay away from 180 gr loads unless you have specific need for it. Shop around for 125-155 gr loads. I reload, so I can load lighter loads than the common 180s. I pack it in a Winthrop leather pancake type holster. Keep practicing and get a feel for how it functions with the rotating barrel. Yea, the trigger needs a different design altogether. Its not a competitive pistol tack driver, but quite accurate for service/range/home protection or CCW if you can handle the weight and size. I'd like to buy the compact version for CCW someday. And the PX4 is very reliable!!! Great video!
Thank you!
I brought my CX4 Storm carbine down from the mountain slung over my shoulder, riding my snowmobile today.
Talk about a "different Beretta".
It's got a heavy, creepy, plastic trigger but is otherwise a spectacular firearm.
I have a compact with the Langdon treatment. Outstanding pistol. Underrated.
He does work now on new HK P30s P2000s. PX4s seem cool but they were out of the scene, 2000s.
@@DavidLLambertmobile Langdon has brought them back, and they sell a lot of them. I have Langdon's PX4 CC, and I have Langdon's P30SK with the optics cut, and the GG flat trigger. They are very close in terms of accuracy. Ernest Langdon claims that his personal PX4 CC has 60,000 rounds through it with no malfunctions/parts issues.
Could it be the ammo? Try different ammo.
Possibly, but that stuff has shot well out of everything else I've put it through.
Great review. I have had one for a couple years and it punches center for me consistently. I really love it, but it is a different animal to shoot.
One of the easiest slides to rack on any hammer fired gun. Got my wife the compact 9mm model a while back. She's 4'10 with little baby hands and had no issue pulling the slide back while the hammer was down. Even my mom who has issues racking the slide on striker fired guns was able to chamber a round. No experience with the sub compact so don't know how it compares since it doesn't have the rotating barrel like the larger models do.
I’m glad that pistol works well for them.
That is an amazing tool. With the LTT trigger kit it is amazing imo. I would really like the compact version from LTT. It is waaaaaay past time for Beretta to offer a v. 2.0. Please bring to market Beretta.
Love your professional take on all your videos, you have an extensive collection and it's good to hear your valuable input on all your guns
Thanks! I’m glad you like the videos!
I have had one in .40 since 2008 like the gun but it's not you pulling your shots mine is not pin-point accuate at distance but don't think that's what it was made for. As far as the decocker I am pretty sure you can get smaller one's. I just ground mine down myself you don't use them much only when holstring or laying at the house. I didn't see you show the half-cocked position witch is one of the things I like about the gun that is how I keep it. Too big & heavy to cc thats what my M&P9+ with c/t laser is for good out to about 50'. Btw my PX4 has 14rd magazine's. Great video review👍
Thank you!
i have the full size 9mm, and love it. Beretta does offer low profile decocker/slide stop kit, worth it! You can also exchange the hammer spring with one of another Beretta pistol for a softer trigger pull. I believe its a cougar model hammer spring, but don't quote me.
Saw one of these Beretta PX-4 Storm pistols used at an IDPA last year. No misfires, no problems. Every stage was a walk in the park.
Picked up a PX-4 Compact Carry a few months which is the brain child of Langdon Tactical and Beretta and I love it. The compact carry has a number of different parts (most of which are Beretta factory parts) over the standard PX-4 which in my opinion are essential to bring out the true potential of this firearm. The safety decocker levers are of the G type (decock only) and are nearly flush with the slide making over hand slide manipulations much easier. The ambidextrous slide stop levers are exchanged for a low profile single lever on the left side of the frame and a plug installed on the opposite side. They sights are Langdon Tactical night sights with a blacked out rear and a Tridium front with a high vis orange circle around the tridium insert. The trigger is the Beretta competition trigger which smooths out the double action pull by a noticeable amount, and reduces the single action to around 4 lbs. Beretta also includes a set of Talon grips if you prefer a better grip as the factory grip is quite slick.
I'm wondering if the ammo you're using just doesn't seem to like that particular firearm. I've fired a few different factory loads through my PX-4 Compact Carry including Sellier and Bellot, Blazer Brass, and some Federal with outstanding accuracy at distances all the way out to 25 yards.
Maybe. There could also have just been an issue with that particular pistol.
I just bought one about a week ago. A very good friend of mine that's been into firearms and gunsmithing for about 45 years says it's one of his two favorite automatics. And considering how many guns he has, that's saying something.
Went out and shot it stock. (After a good cleaning of course). It's a beautiful gun that shoots very well and comfortable for a 9mm. Action is glass slick even before being broke in.
After I got home, I started replacing and adding a few new components.
Swapped out the medium backstrap for the large one, put a Hogue Handall rubber grip on it, and most importantly, dropped in a Langdon Tactical "Trigger job in a bag" (That was highly recommended by my friend and just about everybody else I talked to, including Beretta themselves)
Took it back out to the range.
Holy Moly. What a difference. The grip felt much better and solid in my hand, but the new trigger is worth every penny.
A easier and smoother double action pull, but the single action is about the best I've ever experienced in a gun of that type.
Light, crisp clean, with a very short reset.
I couldn't believe how fast I was able to get shots on target.
It is now my new favorite companion. 😃
Good for you. I hope it serves you well for a long time to come.
@@hrfunk Thank you. I'm sure it will.
But I'm not quite done with the modifications and I've got a nice tac light and a custom holster coming in the next week or two.
Have a great day!
I had the Beretta cougar 45 with the rotating barrel. Really nice gun.
I truly enjoyed this video. Great job with it. I use 155 grain new brass full metal jackets. And then I would carry the 165gr critical defense for protection. I have found that this handgun is very accurate. I put bullet holes inside of bullet holes with this thing. It’s crazy how accurate it is that’s why I’m surprised that you were having issues at 15 yards with that gun. But who knows ,it wasn’t anything you were doing wrong. I really enjoy caring this gun and it works well. I shoot at least over 2000 rounds a year out of it plus at least three or 4000 dry fires a year out of it.
I want to mention something very important to happen to me with this gun in case anybody else has this trouble. After I first got it after about 100 -150 rounds or so I would have failure to feed issues. I went to the gunsmith several times about it, and they polished the chamber and the chamber Ramp feeding ramp which did help. He also altered the ejector rod that kicks out the old brass. But that was not the problem either . if you ever have a failure to feed issue, I highly recommend that you polish the breach face with a Dremel not by hand. I use Fritz metal polish, and I polish the breach plate. Then, I cleaned up by hand ,then I took milspec gun grease and applied it to the breach plate and I worked it in again using the Dremel tool. And that fix the problem. I have had no problems with the gun since I did that and I have shot it thousands of times .I scoured the Internet trying to find the answer. I found very little on this problem. I called Barretta. They were very polite but they were not helpful. The man said he was going to get back to me with some ideas ,he never did. Basically they said you could send the gun in and we’ll send another one .I did not want to go through all that because I went through the trouble of putting the Langdon competition trigger assembly and transfer bar in this gun which I highly recommend. This gun if you’re going to buy it, I recommend that you get the earnest Langdon competition trigger assembly group because of the very long hard trigger pole on this gun because it was meant for the military.
I remember these pistols coming out but never have owned one. I was always a Ruger P series (89, 95, etc.) kind of guy. They weren't super refined but were cheaper and reliable.
Coincidentally, I saw a used Ruger P89 for sale in a used gun case yesterday. The price was $275. I thought about picking it up (mostly out of nostalgia), but I decided to pass.
I have a P-95 and in my hands, it’s the most accurate pistol I own
I have had several 89's 95's over the years and never had one that didn't function properly and shoot well. Great option for the money. Sorry they discontinued that model.
Great video as always. The PX4 is definitely on my short list! Thank you for the great content.
You’re welcome Wesley. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. I have had my PX4 Storm in 9mm for about 4 years now. I bought it with the intentions that if the Poo ever did hit the fan that it would be my primary. Let's hope that never happens. I shoot it every couple of months to keep in tune. I do think it would make an excellent officers firearm due to the DA/SA. I personally think they are safer in green to red situations. But that is my opinion. However, as a civilian, I find myself carrying my Mossberg MC1sc or MC2c more than anything else. I do carry various others including revolvers. Sometimes us older guys like to carry a wheel gun. But the Beretta PX4 is a very nice option. For me it is in the do not sell or trade list. Very nice show and tell.
I’ve got to try one of those Mossberg pistols someday.
@@hrfunk I really like mine.
1. They are dependable, no jams or feed issues. Not once out of both pistols the entire time of ownership
2. Accurate
3. big dot sights for my old eyes
4. very nice flat face trigger, I like the way it breaks
5. The palm swell fits in my hand well, and textured enough to be grippy, but not rough
6. thin enough for conceal carry
7. smooth enough that it does not dig into me when inside the waist band
8. last but not least is the take down. Now this one sold me because of a Ruger I had. I bought an EC9s and shot it for a while, I carried it for a couple of weeks and found out I had been carrying a firearm with a broken striker. Ruger fixed it, so no problems there, but the way the Mossberg takes down I can inspect it very easily. Since the Ruger it makes me feel better.
It’s on my list of pistols to get. I personally like the carry size that’s slightly smaller than full-size. I think it would make a great carry. Definitely overlooked gem, but I need to shoot it before I commit to buying one.
I would encourage you to do so. It seems as though my own experience with this handgun as well as those expressed by many here in the comment section have been quite mixed.
Honest review.
I appreciate it.
Now I will say this. Try the 9mm.
It is a lot better than 40cal.
I was at a range, and I saw someone that had both the full size and the compact model of PX4 Storm. He let me shoot them. At first the compact shot low, but once I got accustomed to the sights it shot well. I have to say that I did not notice any significant recoil reduction with the rotating barrel. What was really interesting is that the person that owned the Beretta pistols shot my CZ P10C pistol, and he shredded the bulls eye. Sometimes a pistol just matches the shooter. That's why I keep trying out different firearms. So far the Staccato P pistol and the CZ Shadow 2 are the best pistols that I have fired, but the search continues for a more reasonably priced pistol. Thanks for all of your reviews of the various firearms that you are show casing.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
I’ve got the full-size in 9mm which is butter-smooth and 2 subcompacts which kick like donkeys because they don’t have the mass nor the rotating barrel. Agreed that the grip texturing should be more aggressive-if you get oily and sweaty hands then that polymer grip is slippery as a dildo. Wait, I meant 😂
The PX 4 reminds me of a pistol I bought in 1992, a Ruger P 89 DC. It shoots great but it's a brick on my hip. 33 ounces.
All PX4 F models can be converted to a G model by removing a detent. A G conversion and lower profile levers (easily available) really improve the pistol. The gray cerekote on an LTT PX4 is also much less slick. The Compact has a fully ambidextrous slide stop. A stipple job or Talon grips are a must.
I have had this pistol for the past 5 years and have never experienced any malfunctions. I had a 92fs before that. But PX4 Storm is better and more smooth than that.
Good. I hope it continues to serve you well.
Thanks
This is one pistol I'd always wished I'd had a chance to try. DA format (which I like) and available in large calibres than 9mm. Looking forward to your thoughts on this one.
I own two (a full size and a sub compact) in 9mm. They are my absolute favorites and the sub compact is my carry. For some reason, these guns check all the boxes for me.
Good! I’m glad they work for you.
Hey HR, thanks for another great video. I happen to like the PX4; I actually bought 2, one in 9mm and one in 40 S&W. The first time I picked one up it felt like a part of my hand and that is perhaps why I am more comfortable with the pistol. I do like the safety/decocker lever the way it is. As my hands become more arthritic it helps me to have an "ear" to hook my finger over as I rack the slide. M-9's and Walther P-38's also are easier for me to rack for this reason. I am no great shot, but the good fit of this gun seems to help my accuracy. These are incredibly durable guns, too. There are videos of the thing being pulled out of muddy water and fired, and one sample supposedly has had over 150,000 rounds put through it with little or no apparent wear. Who knows? Anyway, thanks again! --Old Guy
You’re welcome Ed. Thanks for watching!
Excellent review HR. Showed enough detail for me to think it is not a pistol I would be particularly interested in. Saw one in 9mm a friend had couple of years ago, thought that then and your great review has confirmed.
I guess I'll have to add to the fanboy crowd! I have 2 full size PX4s, 9mm with many thousands of reliable rounds through them. I have used them in many IDPA, USPSA matches and several training classes all with complete reliability.
I found the accuracy issues you were having as odd. I'm no super accurate shooter but mine seem to do fine in the accuracy department, as well as I can anyway.
I agree with you that the grip texture is too slick. I have Traction Grips on mine and it helps a lot. I have larger than average hands but short fingers and use the small back strap. I also changed mine from a F model to G model. Another upgrade in my opinion. I also changed out the bat wing decocker for the Beretta decocker G safety levers. They have just a little bit of a curved, textured lip that works great but is slim and not in the way.
Thanks for another great review!
PS: the slide serrations could be more positive too.
Thank you! I’m glad the PX4 works well for you!
Great video. I considered buying a PX4 9mm DAO once. It reminded me a lot of the Ruger P95 that I had traded off years before. But I just didn't like the smoothness of the grip and the chunkiness of the design. It made the P95 look svelte. It's still a good gun. But I prefer the Beretta 92-style and the Ruger P-series guns more....
I do private security & Im a US Army veteran. 4yr. 🪖 I owned a new 9mm Beretta PX4 C or constant. This was a special DA only type format Beretta offered for around 2yr. The gun was robust, well made but not really on the level of VP9s, PPQs, SIGs, M&Ps.
@@DavidLLambertmobile I looked at the PX4D....the DAO version similar to the 92D.
I bought one in .40 years ago when they first hit the market. The point of aim/impact was 8" low and 6" left out of the box. I sold it and never looked at this thing again.
It seems like this design is a little more "hit or miss" than some others.
@@hrfunk The original cougar was exquisitely made, I still have one in 45acp to this day and it's really nice. Maybe I just got a bad one.
I have one in .45. I like it.
Thanks for the review H.R.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching!
Thanks a lot for this complete review! I've tested one chambered in 9 mm. This is the new short weapon of Romanian Police and I was curious about how it shoots. It seemed to be a little bit more accurate to me but I absolutely agree with what you said about this pistol's ergonomy. Those safeties are really sharp.
As always excellent review. With items noted will look to purchase and send to Langdon for their special treatments. Thanks so much and keep reviews coming.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
When I first got my first PX4 I had the same accuracy problems. It takes some familiarization to get really good with. It's too slick and moves a bit in the hand. Some grip tape or a Talon grip will help immensely.
I suspect that is true. I have a feeling that this is one of those handguns that, if someone dedicate themselves to, it can be a pretty good performer.
The right back strap for your hand makes a big difference in consistency, and mine took some break-in and familiarization time on the range. It's a very good EDC. The safety feels like it was made for gloved hands. Only sharp edge on the thing.
@@eljuano28 I put the stealth G-mod levers on mine. Huge difference.
An easy mod to do as well.
After my initial rounds through my compact I'm thinking it needs Talon grip tape. I'm a little disappointed in the accuracy so far, especially when shooting fast.
I revisited this video tonight because I just bought a used PX4 Storm in 40 S&W. My range had both the 40 S&W and 9mm used for sale, so I took the opportunity to try them both. To me, the 40 S&W felt much better than the 9mm so I made a trade on a 22 LR pistol, added some cash and walked away happy. My experience with accuracy was very different from yours. At five yards I blew out a 1-1/2 bullseye with one flyer about 3/4-in away. Accuracy seemed spot on out to 15 yards and I'll do some more testing at 25 the next time I get to the range. That said, I think my hands are considerably bigger (I wear XXL gloves) and I suspect that has something to do with accuracy with this handgun.
Whatever the reason, I hope that pistol keeps working well for you. Thanks for watching!
The 40 cal version is my EDC.
I have the Compact Carry version. It came with the flat decocker. I got the 92FS ones that are made specifically for the PX4
Love em, want an LTT one :) However I'll admit I'm a huge Beretta fanboy as I trusted my M9 in the Navy every day and shoot them well (because of all the practice I have with them is all really; maybe the non-moving barrel helps but it's probably just all the training) :)
The M9 is a great pistol and your training certainly helps you take advantage of its attributes. Thanks for watching!
Shooting cold - no prior experience - is fair since a friend or family member might need to pick up your pistol in haste. But I think you should also retest after a couple hundred rounds.
I no longer have this pistol. I returned it shortly after producing this video because I just didn't care for it.
@@hrfunkwe all have our individual preferences.that’s for sure. Thx for sharing a look at this gun. There aren’t many handguns that have rotating barrels but they are intriguing. I’d like to try the 2 handguns ,that I know about,that have them & see how both feel. The Grand Powers now have the 2 different designs .At least on the competition model... The way the earlier version is designed and built with the bull barrel , (going solely by what I’ve seen online, is the one I’d most likely choose if I was actively searching for one too buy.Which I am not,at this particular time ).But I’ve never seen any of the GP models in a store & I’m not holding my breath .The Storms are interesting too.As far as possibly carrying one,there shape is interesting. More curves and rounded edges than a lot of other simi auto pistols.. Not many people pay attention to much of anything for the most part.Rounder ,curved guns ,in the right spot and right holster (Think round butt revolvers) seem to blend in better in some cases)Then there’s the Stoegars(sp?) .Think they have some rotating barrel options too.& possibly others.?.again ,not actively shopping ,but when I get back in the market, I’ll do some more homework.Saving my shillings for a rainy day for right now. Have more than enough good guns for right now. Do have a short list (approximately 4-6 that I’ll most likely get .when I come across them & the time is right .)some handguns, 1 PCC & 1-2 rifles..Have had my eye on them for a while now. There’s no shortage of guns available. In no big hurry .Don’t compete & more of a accumulator of guns than a collector..Doesn’t hurt to check out the pre owned gun section now& then to see what you might find. Take care and enjoy this beautiful weather. It’s going to be a warm one this summer i have a feeling.
Appreciate your honesty
The PX4 is the best handgun i have ever shot with. I bought 2. It's amazing solid, accurate and reliable.
I own a Px4 and I can tell you this....there is a learning curve with this gun. I couldn't hit anything with it for the first couple of times I took it to the range. I was hooking them to the left and high. I worked on it and figured it out. Now I can handle it very well. You might spend a bit on ammo before you get good though.
I love the PS4 compact I carried 14 years. Can't believe the accuracy.
I will say, I got a used PX4 and with a 12lb Wilson hammer spring, the trigger is amazing. Added the LTT trigger bar which shortens reset. Smooth light DA, crisp light short SA. Didn't see the need for the LTT trigger group.
The answer is in front of you. The accuracy I'm betting would be better with 155gr or 165 gr. Thats what I've experienced with 40 S&W. 180 gr is the low ranker when it comes to 40 S&W. None of the PD''s around here use 180 gr.
The 45 favors the lighter bullets , I own the Storm 45, it does handle 230 grain as well, just the lighter is tighter group
Good review, and thanks to HOP for sponsoring this episode. I agree with HR that as he was shooting from the table that it seemed that he was "rushing" the shots, as the pistol seemed to be recoiling slower than his shooting tempo. At first I thought he was just experiencing break-in problems and that by the end of his shooing that maybe he'd re-shoot the accuracy test from the table. Never mind, I was being overly optimistic. His shooting at the clean area of the target answered that question.
I’ll offer a not-too-relevant comment, but one based on experiences with a semiautomatic that doubtless shoots a LOT better, for many individuals, than it does for me. To begin, I have never fired a PX4 Storm, so the following remark is potentially more for general autoloader interest, than it is specific to the Storm.
As Howard was concluding this video and discussing his overall impressions of the Storm, a large bell sounded in my mind, followed with the thought that HR was evaluating MY (not anyone else’s) experiences with the Glock 36.
I purchased a G36 (single stack, 6+1 capacity, 3.8 inch barrel, chambered in .45 ACP) many years ago, with high hopes that it would be my EDC forever. After all, I reasoned (fundamentally, as a “revolver guy”) that 6+1 was plenty for my probable defensive circumstances, that 200 grain .45 ACP loads would work well from a short barrel, that it was modestly concealable, and that Glock had a deserved reputation for reliability and durability. Unfortunately, it was an accuracy and a reliability disaster . . . but, like HR’s experiences with the Storm, more so when deliberately firing for precision than when just shooting rapidly for defensive-level accuracy. I ascribed this to poor ergonomics, leading to limp-wristing, and then to occasional failures to return to battery (especially when I was slowly concentrating for bullseye accuracy).
My son and daughter-in-law love their G36 and they fire it with excellent accuracy and reliability . . . so these issues clearly were (and are) mine alone. However, they again demonstrates that a “firearm’s systems” includes many components . . . the shooter is doubtless the most critical one, and this there are no universal “one size fits all” solutions.
Well stated Roy. I have experienced this phenomenon a few times over the years. Most recently with the Lionheart Regulus, and now the PX4 Storm. I have no doubt that if I dedicated my efforts to one or the other of those handguns, I could master it. However, I am more of a generalist. I fire most conventional handguns (at least) adequately, but sometimes the less conventional models don't work, particularly well in my hands. That's why I didn't want to completely condemn the PX4. In someone else's hands, it might be a stellar performer.
I agree, Howard; the fact that X may not easily meet our standards (and hopes) doesn’t mean it won’t be ideal for many others. Still, imho, so many competitive offerings do meet our criteria that I’m not going to squander my time and money trying to make X acceptable.
I owned one of these in 9mm a few years back. The trigger to me felt "weird", at least in comparison to Beretta 92s, hammer fired SIGs, CZs, etc. I could never get into a good rhythm doing shooting drills with the Storm. As you point out, I think the shape and reach of the trigger has something to do with it, at least if you are used to shooting other guns.
Not a bad gun, and I can believe they are pretty durable, but I would always take an M9 or 92FS over one of these if I had the chance.
So would I. Thanks for the comment.
i have owned a LTT PX4 compact in 9mm for a couple years now. Never 1 problem with the PX4. Excellent carry firearm. Fits my hands perfectly. Good capacity, accurate and fast shooting with the smooth Langdon trigger and super short reset on the trigger. Maybe the rotating trigger does lessen recoil because it doesn't seem to recoil much at all. Added some Talon grips for a better hand purchase.
Good. I’m glad it works well for you.
I looked at the .45 PX4 as a possible duty pistol several years ago. I’ve carried both a S&W 645 and a Ruger P90 on duty but wished for higher capacity than either offered. Just couldn’t get over my aversion to polymer frames and I much prefer the 90 series Berettas, either in .40 or 9mm.
I bought a used Glock 41 .45acp gen 4. I added new Tru Glo Pro orange sights, new KKM match barrel, new Glock Store stainless steel recoil guide rod. The Glock 41s are big but cycle, work well.
Been wanting one since 2016 and finally took the plunge. Found one with new tritium sights, original box with manual and 2 mags for $450! I've been carrying the 92fs Compact for 5 years now. Cant wait to feel the difference in weight between the two! Great video.
Thank you!
Thank you for another outstanding period of instruction. I was a Corporal also. 😃
Apparently this is Beretta's second foray into rotating barrel lockup pistols. A hunting buddy of mine bought the first model Beretta Cougar 8040 with the same action in shorty 40. From what I remember of it, the accuracy was good at least in my hands. The recoil was "different". I don't recall the muzzle rise as being much different than any other locked breech pistol but seemed to be about as controllable as any other dropping barrel or locking block design such as the Walther P-38 or Beretta M9/92 design. The grips on the Cougar were almost Beretta 92 in texture and felt okay. I like that the PX series decocker is reshaped a bit from the 92-I had a Beretta Vertec and while I liked the pistol generally, the 92 style decocking lever didn't much like me as it seemed to activate when I didn't mean to. I know-training issue lol. If Beretta would look at the Ruger P89 decocking lever for example, it actually becomes a benefit in fast racking the slide without engaging the decocking feature. We tried handloading ammo for the Cougar but it would not feed what I would consider softball loads-failures to feed were common until we went well above starting charges, somewhere between mid point and max before it fed and ejected correctly. I suspect the PX4 could benefit with a decent grease on the slide channels cut to rotate the bolt as my friend's Cougar did and maybe cut down on the felt "extra time" it takes for the PX to cycle. Great review sir!
Thanks David!
The PX4 Storm Compact is what my daughter researched and bought for her first handgun. Ergonomics are different, but it introduced me to Beretta. I since bought a 92FS, 85 Cheetah, and the 950 Jetfire. Love them all, but the PX4 still feels weird.
I have the PX4 CC from Langdon Tactical, and I love it. Very flat-shooting, and a pleasure to take to the range. The PX4 didn't do well in Military Arms Channel torture/gauntlet test, due to sand/mud getting into the rotating barrel, but the pistol shoots great if you don't drop it in the river. My PX4 CC is in my carry rotation. Love it.
Good for you, Ken. I'm glad you like it, and I'm happy it works well for you. Thanks for watching!
I like your vid, but I think as you use it more you will like it. The compact 40 is my chosen gun for carry, for it is always on target after the 1st shot, it maintains on target every time after that. Put a laser on it and you will be surprised on what it will do. Old Master Gunnery SGT USMC.
Semper Fi!
Only 10 rounds? Is this a California model? I was looking online and for the 40s&w it was saying 14 rounds.
The SKU on the model I had indicated the 10 round mags. Maybe it was the CA model.
Wondering if you do any reloading? I would love a video on that subject.
I do, but I no longer have this pistol.
I had one in 9mm, and got rid of it quick. It was a one-shot wonder. 1sr shot, if in DA, was always spot on, but the rest were horrible. It actually shot as bad as my Steyr m95 carbine, which only has a memory of rifling inside. Felt great in the hand, and was good for quick draw drills, but show's over just as quick.
Works best as a starter Pistol for new Shooters. Can get modifications done to improve things overall speaking but mostly the Slide Disconnect is good for new Shooters wanting a Manual Safety and in 9mm reasonably cheap to shoot as it gets these days.
I give it credit for having Anything different in this market - being the rotating barrel
I own the compact in 9mm and it is the best gun I ever owned. Accuracy is great and recoil is extremely manageable. I have done several improvements to it as described in several videos making it even better.
Good. I hope it serves you well for a long time.
Remember, ammunition quality plays a big part in accuracy!!! Wish you would of compared several different types of ammunition!!😊🤔
Maybe that would have made a difference, but I just wan't inclined to continue working with this pistal.
Px4 rocks. Accurate as any. Great video as always. Own 40cal and 9mm compacts. Thank you.
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching!
My Beretta 96 Centurion was a handgun that took a while to break in. Possibly the Storm needs a couple boxes put through it to get accurate.
Could be.
I did a first shots vid renting a .45 a few years back. I want to try one in .40. It's just a tad too big too heavy not sure if I would carry it, and boy do they need a 2.0 version (like the p2000) w better updated grip modules with texture so you don't need grip tape. I think you would like the Rossi .357 I have been doing vids on. Getting it worked on and some upgrades I liked it so much.
Thanks Dan. If I get a chance to try one out, I’ll let you know what I think of it.
Love my PX4’s in 9mm full size and sub compact. Also enjoy shooting the CX4 with them. Biggest wish for the 12-14 years that I’ve had, threaded barrels for suppressed shooting. Hate the goofy curved trigger.
I took my carry shooting test with the same .40 and I'd never fired the pistol before I racked the first round into the firearm. I love this pistol.
Good! Do you still have it?
Have that in .45 and really enjoy it. Cannot claim any "wild" benefits, but seems smooth and accurate to me.
St Paddy’s day last night made me miss this live but I’m watching it now 👍
9:50 The problem with the equipment rail is that you can not attach a standard weapon light because the trigger guard is too wide on the upper front side (big corner radius).
I own the Beretta Px4 Storm SD (.45 ACP), but I can not get used to it.
Unlike my other pistols like Glock 40, HK P30L or HK 45 the Beretta Px4 doesn't fit well/comfortable in my hand.
As you already mention it, the grip is also quite slippery and the slide handling are very uncomfortable because of the sharp-edged safety lever.
I prefer a lot more my old Beretta 92 FS from the 90s (straight dust cover).
By the way, if you think you're a bad shooter with the Beretta PX4.
My shooting accuracy is way better with my Glock 30 than with the Beretta PX4.
And the Glock 30 is a very compact gun for closest distance!
Great review! You certainly gave it a chance to perform.Take care!
I bought a PX4 in 9mm when it first came out. I carried & shot it quite a bit for a couple of years. It was a really nice pistol. Comfortable & soft recoiling. I traded it up for something else that I can’t recall? Wish I still had it.
This is the best, most thorough review of this gun that I have seen. I will still consider the PX4. Perhaps I can find one to try before I make a decision to purchase. Thanks for all that you do.
You are most welcome. Thanks for watching!
It is one of the best yet most unappreciated Berettas. But for the people who know, know. I love these. Some don't like them because they don't behave like a Browning action. But once you adjust, you're cutting paper at 20-30yds. Easily.
PX4 has the distinction, of being the pistol I needed to defend myself, once upon a time, great gun but being mostly poly. Recoil somewhat aggressive recoil even for big dude. Swapped for the REM R1 1911 with a crap trigger and was happier.
Great review! I appreciate your forthrightness regarding the unusual characteristics of the PX4 Storm. I was thinking that it would be interesting to test it with other brands of factory ammunition for comparison. I became a fan of Beretta when I bought a model 90-Two, which I like to say is more accurate than I am, in regard to how my accuracy improves when I shoot it vs. my Glock.
I ran across a used 90-Two a while back. I wish I’d bought it. It was cool and kind of different.
I've always shot mine very well as long as I dont rush my trigger pull. I have a full size and carry model.
I had a love, hate with the one I had. At the time, I wasn't into guns life I am now. It was all I needed for range, carry, and nightstand usage. But I had nightmares that I'd be in a situation where I needed it and I'd forget the safety, or the double action trigger was so heavy that I'd pull and pull and pull without it going off.
Those nightmares were what led me to sell it.
The PX4 Storm is a wild beast. You have to tame it first to appreciate it's full majesty.