Crown Graphic 4x5 camera, one hour @ f/16, HP5 film, a real alternative to Digital capture at night
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2023
- I like to challenge myself and love shooting black and white film at night, I think the organic look film gives is still unsurpassed even today, on a very dark October night I load the 4x5 film camera with 1 sheet of Ilford HP5, watch the video and see how I got on, enjoy.
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Martin you never cease to amaze me, the determination along with application of knowledge has given you a very successful print, that I think an awful lot of photographers would have struggled with, even on digital, a credit to your photographic and dark room skills, any longer and I think the restaurant would have started blowing out and would have ruined the scene, it’s a pity it wasn’t a clearer night for the sky. But a real lesson old plate or any film photography.
I will be looking at your other videos and seeing what I can glean from your developing skills.
Great to have you back, Martin. Superb result indeed, and with only one sheet of negative exposed. Great job.
Lovely photograph, Martin! Thank you for bringing us along.
In my small town, trying a shot like this would have at least a couple of police officers asking me what I thought I was doing. :)
And, in my experience, they will stand directly in front of the lens while I explain.
With the added "fun" of being told some variation of "but it's too dark, you can't really be taking photos now." Thankfully, one of the advantages of being as old as I am, they don't see me as threatening just a bit of a fool. Not entirely pleased by that but it does make the encounters slightly less annoying.
Always happy to watch another video from you, thanks again!
Very nice. I've done a lot of analog night-time photography, most of it panoramic (6 x 12 and 6 x 17 cm), until a few ears ago. Almost all of it on C-41 colour neg stock. I've had exposure times up to 2 hours, often in clear winter nights at sub-zero temperatures. Just opened the shutter and spent the next hour or two in the car, listening to the radio. 🙂
Fantasy experience, congratulations on the initiative👏👏👏
Oh my, that is gorgeous! Oh my goodness. Who needs digital when we have this! So beautiful, Martin, you constantly show us how film is so valid, even today. I am so glad I shoot film.
Nice to see the negative and the explanation of the details all very inspirational.
Amazing work as always!
Inspiring
Fantastic work, great job !
Love it! Thank you for bringing us along!
Excellent as ever. Well done!
Beautiful - thank you.
Awesome results! Thank you for sharing your experience!
you are so great! thanks for the content
Great work!
Another amazing and great job Martin, thank you 🙏🏼
Excellent stuff
You got a beautiful shot!
Cracking image well made.
Some banging photos, thanks for your hard work keep them coming please
A magical result
Nice video, and great night shot!
Beautiful rich tonality❤
Brilliant image Martin - Stay safe
Amazing photograph!!! Outstanding work Martin!
Wonderful result Martin.
That was quite fun! Thank you for sharing your craft and art.
Martin you’ve done it again! Brilliant, thank you.
Great image Martin... well done as usual! Thank you!
Martin ; another fine broadcast !! 💪🏻
Wow, Wow, Wow.... is this Amazing 👍👍👍
Excellent as always sir. Fabulous shot and fantastic education!
Outstanding work with your camera 👏👏👏📸👍😊
Marvellous Martin! Another great video my friend, keep them coming.
Thanks for another great video. I agree, that Martin Henson channel is always worth watching!
Great video, Your guesstimate on the the exposure is spot on.
Bravo, thats a good photo. Subscribed. Hope to see more content like this.
Utterly brilliant.....again. Your videos are a real joy to watch, Martin. Thank you.
Hi Martin !!! Great !!! Great !!! Great !!! Interesting video !!!
Just amazing, thank you. Now I'll have to try some pyro
An amazing result Martin, you must be ore than pleased.
Great Video and photograph. Greetings from Germany.
A very fun video and an amazing picture. Large format cameras are terrific. Thank you for this.
Wow, that crown graphic is in beautiful condition and the photo looks great too!!
Wow. I am impressed and not surprised at your success.
Lovelly camera, great video. Left a sub and looking forward to your next video. Happy shooting!
Such a wonderful image! I love the flow of the water, and the smoothed surface above the weir with the reflections, absolutely gorgeous!
thank you, you made me want to start 4x5 pinhole
What a wonderful, educational and entertaining video... I would have never thought such a image could be captured with film. Thank you Martin.
Outstanding! I can't say I've ever seen a better night shot, so your knowledge and determination has paid off. Awesome. Keith
I enjoyed this video - the story - the dedication, the passion, the patience. It's a fun challenge indeed! Thanks for all the effort that went into it.
Beautiful image! I admire the dedication, craft, and commitment involved with shooting large format film.
Martin, you never cease to amaze. Thank you for such a beautiful and instructional video. Can not wait to see your next video. Would like to see a video on the mini Graflex, hope you have one to share. Regards, Jerry...
Thanks Martin.
Your welcome
Dear Martin, Did you know that when you unscrew the top two screws of the partial image viewfinder, you can insert two penlight batteries. When you press the red button on the side of the viewfinder, the light projects two points of light against the object. When you use the focus button to let these points of light fall on top of each other, you are focused. I hope you find this useful; Although it is rather suitable for not being used over too great a distance... For most users this is a hidden thingiedingie.
Thanks , yes I know that, the problem I have is the bulb has gone and finding the correct replacement seems rather difficult
@@martinhensonphotographyi tried a laser pointer instead and it works great. only one problem was to build an adapter that can hold pointer on the rangefinder.
Superb image Martin, I love it. I agree with you on film, I shoot both digital and film but feel that the film gives a warmth that digital can never match.
Wonderful image! 👏
Thank you
Superb work there Martin showing off what can be done with film with night! Great choice of the HP5 film and 510 Pyro developer to ensure the maximum detail was captured!
What you are referring to as the Y frame , we used to call the Sports Finder!
Martin, thank you for sharing the video, it's very interesting!
I did some night shooting in town industrial area vith my baby graflex century graphic on 120 color film and it was really exciting. I read exposure from tables of Light conditions, but i lost it. Exposure times been 8-20 min and i find usful wau not to be boring during exposure: I took second camera in next shooting.
I thank you for this video because it reminded me of my night shoots that I did 15 years ago. And I definitely have to do it again! Thank you for inspiration.
Nice to see you back I thought you’d gone off air all together. And this program is right up my street, I shoot with the Horseman FA 45. Long live large format photography.
Hi Martin, Amazing how passionate you are about film photography. Love to listen to your detailed approach to real photography. You are the best period.Canada
You're my number-one inspiration on TH-cam. Thank you so very much.
Wow, I am impressed with the quality of this image. There are details everywhere, Martin. The tone range is amazing. I like the developer effect.
Nothing like a film. Congratulations. Thanks for sharing! 👏👏👏
Very very incredible , that image , wow I am impressed Martin , I have a 4x5 Press Graphlex Crown Graph the same lens 135mm I am so excited to have my undeveloped film processed.
Great results, Mr. Henson. Bravo! Cheers from Italy, AD
Thank you
That is such an incredible image. Not an easy one. And that plug is the best I have seen so far from any TH-camr 😅
Very nice image. Loved my LF cameras, but can’t imagine I’d describe standing in the dark for an hour as “fun”!
Wonderful work Martin! Showing us how it is done! Agreed, film has a more natural tonal quality. Digital (as it is commonly executed) is too linear and starkly rendered. Analog materials provide a more nuanced portrayal of light. Unfortunately, this aesthetic is admired by the few, in deference to the "killer shot". Thanks for taking the time to reveal your images and your process.
me ha encantado esa fotografia nocturna, es explendida con todo sus prblemas nocturnos un saludo desde BARCELONA ESPAÑA me he suscrito porque me parece que es de lo mejorcito que hay por TH-cam, yo soy un aficionado y me encanta el cuarto oscuro, un saludo.
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This is awesome Martin. I love shooting the night skies on film. Mainly star trail shooting but I have used my film camera on my star tracker & shot Orion and the Milky Way itself (which I've just got back from dev) and I do really love the results. I think I'm up to about 22 images in the Flickr album/Instagram so far!
Just to add in the words of Lock stock and Two smoking barrels film. It’s been emotional!
That was utterly beautiful, thanks Martin.
Your sturdy Crown is definitely a better beast for long exposure work vs the lighter and flimsier modern 4x5’s.
Your “educated guess” comment was as self deprecating as ever; no light meter or app can replace the decades of experience, trial, errors, experiments that you have built up. Thanks so much for sharing your craft.
Just had a look at your videos from the beginning expecting to find some stuff on darkroom developing and half/quarter plate photography, perhaps there’s a winter one there for the dark room hints tips and chemicals etc. 😉
Lovely camera. I have the exact same camera but with a 135mm Xenar. I use it for street stuff.
Mine has the same lens, thanks for commenting
Last summer I exposed a frame on RPX25 at f/2.8 for about an hour and a quarter up at the Bivouac Refuge Igloo des Pantalons Blancs (about 3300m) (it was on 35mm however). I left the cabin and the bed therein twice that night to make the exposure. The negative was somewhat underexposed, but the image came out wonderfully (a silhouette of the peaks of La Sale and Le Plereur (I think) against a backdrop of star trails, and some annoying plane trails that were a pain to retouch).
Now I really want to take my 9x12 up somewhere like that again, with some of my (self-made) dry plates. :)
Bloody heck it was a very dark scene. Well done.
That APP looks to be very handy indeed.
@@thegroove2000 Its a must for long film exposures
Great video Martin and I love the image you made. A question for you - what alkali fixer would you recommend to use with Pyro?
What a stunning picture, I could do with your help, I've just bought a Zeiss Icon Nettar that's in excellent condition and have 2 other analogue cameras. I want to start developing my own negatives but I haven't got lots of money due to being off work on long-term sick. I want to develop both B&W and Colour film what chemicals would you recommend for beginners, please? I don't have the room for a darkroom so will be DSLR scanning my negatives.
Very interesting. Thank you. I wonder if a normal field 4x5 like an Intrepid would work for this? Maybe use the lights of the restaurant to focus. Might be too dark though.
I’m sure the intrepid would do fine
My Crown Graphic is my favorite night film camera as well. They are very solid and square. I suspect you could have focused on the bright lights rather easily on the ground glass. A bright led flashlight works well too, to light up something like the branches over the water. I have focused quite a few times at night on the glass without problem. Thanks for sharing your adventure and image. Chris
I need have ordered a new bulb , it didn’t work
Great night photos, I hope you are able to share more in the future. @@martinhensonphotography
very inspiring, btw. which tripod is that?
Incredible image Mr. Henson! Is the image in the video a scan of the negative or a print? I'm simply amazed at the amount of details and the lack of noise! Does HP5 have an ASA 400 rating? It would sound about right for a night shot at f/16 and an hour long exposure. Just out of curiosity, do you ever shoot any 8X10's in large format? I've watched some of your videos and don't recall ever seeing any. Keep up the great work! Cheers
Why don't you set up the composition and focus while there is still light out and then wait until dark to take the shot? Then all you have to do is come up with an exposure value and you're set.
Love your channel!
love the outcome! would you also put in the standard 4 minutes for a diafine development with such a 1h neg exposure time? cheers
Yes I would
I’m so surprised that there was no wind that night. The trees are so sharp
Yes it was a very still evening,thanks
Very good, nice video and photo!
Beautiful work. I am going to try it!! Would like to hear the exact development method you used. In total 30minutes and 30seconds semistand with 510Pyro?
13 mins 30 sec
A very beautiful result! Have you tried pre-exposing the film by one zone under such conditions? Would the extra effort be worth it?
To be honest I am not sure, but worth trying, thanks
Lovely photo, Martin.
I must've missed this but how did you meter this???
I didn’t, was a guesstimate
Hi Marin
This is great! What fixer did you use and for how long. If you don’t mind. Thanks!
It was Ecozonefix for 2.5 mins 20c, hope that helps
Thanks Martin
That really turned out well. I wonder how the same scene would turn out if you had moonlight for illumination.
Probably a shorter exp
@@martinhensonphotography I at the location looked on Google maps. The Moon would always be on the upstream side of the weir, perhaps not what one would like for illuminating the scene. Perhaps at a time when the Moon is fairly low in the southwest would be best. Around full moon, giving the most light, that would be a time a couple of hours before dawn.
10:55 You shouldn't go with the flashlight near the open shutter. :) Luckily it doesn't show on the final image. Overall nice exposure!
I was curious about that too. It seemed like a huge mistake to shine the light on the camera as he was pushing the shutter release, but maybe I missed something.
Superb, Martin. How much did you hold back on development time against the 'normal' time?
Now the clocks have gone back, seems I'll be shooting more night-time 4x5. I'll see how the TXP320 fares and maybe pick up some Fomapan400 to try given the cost of the 320 per sheet.
As I pointed out in the video I did not reduce dev time using a Pyro based developer, Fomo 400 reciprocity failure is simular to HP5 so worth trying , keep away from Fomopan 200 though its times are really bad in long exposure times
thank you
@@martinhensonphotography Thanks Martin, I'll keep the Foma 200 I have for regular shots.
What I should have asked is 'If you were using a regular developer rather than a Pyro is there a typical amount you would hold back on development?'. I use Ilford DDX mostly though I do have some Ilfosol 3 as well.
@@liveinaweorg well as a starting point say minus 30% and see we’re you go from there
Hi: how did you come up with the 8 min. starting point for the exposure? Thanks
It was based on previous night exposures I have done
Martin can that be done on a 35mm film camera. Thankyou.
Yes it can, thanks
Hi Martin, how did you manage the straight verticals? (I assisted an architectural photog. for a few years). Thanks, Doug.
Just made sure the camera was level on the horizontal and vertical
Was that achieved with some sort of (H/V) level - bubble or digital or i phone? (I have a flip phone, old type, lol).@@martinhensonphotography
At the beginning of the video you can clearly see I have fitted a square bubble level to the Crown Graphic and that is what I used to level the camera on the tripod, hope that answers your question @@vagabondfotos
@@martinhensonphotography 😁🥴🤙 (I skipped to the meaty parts, LOL!) That HP5 Ilford held highlights well. The negative looks blown on them. Nice though. Thanks! ddy.🤙
@ 35 seconds, LOL. 👌@@martinhensonphotography
hello Mr Henson I would like to understand the calculation you made of 8 min becomes 1 hrs I do the calculation of 8 min for the hp5 correction by 1.31 tells me 15 min please enlighten me what is the name of the application you are using thank you
I5 mins would have produced a very thin underexposed negative, the app is called Reciprocity failure app
So base exposure was [8mins} 480 sec to the power of 1.31 = 3254.063 seconds divided by 60 = just over 54 mins, I rounded the exposure to 1 hour, I think you are using the base of 8 when it should be 480
@@martinhensonphotography ok I forgot this step, thank you very much