What is all of your take on this topic? Do you think that there is genuine value behind these goods? Or do they merely exist to create the illusion of "status?"
I am so frustrated by such videos, which are made on a hype over new and old money distinction. Made by someone who doesn’t understand the topic for someone who doesn’t understand the topic. All luxury brands have stock lines which do have logos all over the place (just because it’s trendy now), as well as some more quiet pieces which don’t yell at you about their price tag, made from better quality materials - for instance leathers which are generally produced only in certain parts of the world or even country, which makes them more expensive (for instance Hermes Togo Leather of LV Taurilion leather). Saying that rich people don’t buy LV, YSL or Gucci is a straight up madness. It’s all up to the person style and preferences.
I am so frustrated by such videos, which are made on a hype over new and old money distinction. Made by someone who doesn’t understand the topic for someone who doesn’t understand the topic. All luxury brands have stock lines which do have logos all over the place (just because it’s trendy now), as well as some more quiet pieces which don’t yell at you about their price tag, made from better quality materials - for instance leathers which are generally produced only in certain parts of the world or even country, which makes them more expensive (for instance Hermes Togo Leather of LV Taurilion leather). Saying that rich people don’t buy LV, YSL or Gucci is a straight up madness. It’s all up to the person style and preferences.
My house and cars are paid off, no credit card debt, and a closet full of clothes from JP Penny, Wal-Mart, etc. I think I’m entitled to my one luxury item (Rolex). It’s for me and I don’t care what other people think about it. Any opinions?
Generalization videos like this by someone who clearly doesn’t underfashion neither the brands exposed to a mass public who mostly doesn’t understand is even worse… people do not just but clothes for status some buy it for the love to fashion design, history references, inspiration, etc. Those brands you mentioned have multiple styles that are very elegant, have wonderful high quality materials and do not have displayed logos as well. This stupid obsession with the old money and new money style is ridiculous- by portraying yourself in one or the other it won’t govern you upbringing, values, education, experience, breed , assets, inheritance etc form the old money, neither the new millions of the other, this topic is very much more complex
I love how only old and new money is mentioned, and there are literal thousands of millionaires in between that just grab the first blue shirt in GAP + the comfy pair of sketchers, hop in their Ford trucks and just have a good time running their businesses and hanging out with their friends, not being bothered by any of the topics in the video.
@@PatrickMcNamara8 agree on this, just saying that most of the videos on YT are skipping on that class of people in general when the topic is stealth wealth.
I have two Gucci bags but I’m embarrassed to wear them because of the logos and because of the very tacky pop celebrities who wears the brand in an over the top manner.
Despite my advice, my 27 yo son has fallen into this trap of trying to look rich. He’s in debt, has zero savings and lives pay check to pay check. He makes ludicrous payments on a car he can’t afford, along with buying Jordans and other items of clothing with the brand logo on full display
I bought myself a Rolex when I got my CPA license. It was less than $10,000. It was the subtle Explorer 2. Getting my license took 6 years of constant discipline and hard work. The watch was a treat to myself after saving for 5 years. What’s crazy to me is that some people go into debt or draw from their retirement accounts to acquire these luxury items. Buy what you love and can AFFORD.
Lots of rich people buy this stuff - but why is that even important? I remember from working in the industry that 1% of very wealthy clients would literally make up about 40%-50% of the turnover - in RTW it would be higher, and in accessories a bit lower. Apart from that there is no “quiet luxury” or “old money” aesthetics. In the history of fashion we move from minimalist periods to maximalist and back - nothing new. Apart from that, it’s funny to jump on the bandwagon of criticizing logos, while trying to mimic what you believe “old money” would wear with sweatshop clothing from fast fashion brands made of plastic.
i have gotten some really nice clothes from the thrift store as well as some decent looking and ok quality watches and jewelry from thrift stores. with these, i can appear richer to to many fake rich while still being within my financial means
I don’t do logos. Never did. I grew up poor af. Still am. My mom would occasionally buy me Hollister but she knew I don’t do logos. I still go to Aeropostale but I just buy Henleys & pants. 😂 some thought I was rich in school bc my cousin’s family is. If I had money money, I’d have some high end name brand luxury goods like Gucci but most would be the more expensive unheard of brands.
I think the concept of clothes is fashion, and *amzclothes* not only makes women more beautiful, but also supports them mentally and makes them more confident.
I really love *gtdupe* bags. The fabric is very good. The golden embellishments add a touch of beauty. When I went to the church, I received some praise.
They don’t buy it to appear rich it’s a good quality bags.all of the high end bags are just hand made stuff that use the same materials as the other brands.
The rich CHOOSE to dress the way they do, the rest of us have no choice. The rich can easily go between generic and luxury brands, the rest of us don’t have that choice.
Hey Patrick are you in anyway connected with the channel "RAISED". Just wondering because I see the same scripted video from that channel. Just out of curiosity and not to mind anyway please. Feel free to avoid responding. A curious question that's all.
It’s simple really… Look back at the history of items before they became luxury items. They were originally tools created for functional purposes. Watch was originally created as a tool to tell the time. A bag was a practical item to carry items. A car was created to replace horse carriage. They were all originally created for functional purposes. But how do you convince people to buy these tools for public and everyday life use? They had it to make it attractive by adding decoration of luxury. Just like you decorate cakes otherwise people wouldn’t buy it. To make the items attractive to the public, the concept of luxury was created. Luxury is a man made concept. People who buys luxury items are generally unaware of the items origin. Like Rolex was originally a tool that people forgot or unaware of. But Rolex’s marketing overshadowed the watch history by making people to focus on the watch’s aesthetics. They added decorations to the watch Ike diamond and gold.
This whole idea is beyond stupid to me. The whole point of having massive wealth is to manipulate the power that comes with it, not buy barely fashionable tacky goods like an idiot.
As a millionaire myself I’d say I don’t care for luxury items that much at all. Luxury items like Gucci or LV don’t seem luxurious to me anymore. When I was younger I saw people wearing Gucci and LV in the bus or subway and I used to think if they’re rich why are there using public transport. I believe more in good fabric and comfort. Therefore I understand what you’re trying to say. I get my clothes tailored by my family tailor so my clothes are custom made for me. The only ‘luxurious’ things I wear are my watches since I’m very into watches and probably the only items I spend lots of money on apart from my technology which aids my work. The only way legitimately people can tell if I’m rich or not is looking at my wrist. Otherwise I’ll look like some accountant.
Its not for poor people because poor people just dream in buying it,people who buy it are rich people,perhaps new rich wh o just want to show they have money ,but old rich also buy all this thing or have since few generation..
i found that honestly clothes, shoes and bags in the range of around 30 40 up to maybe 100 150$ and shoes around 100 to 200$ offer the best quality for the money. Anything above that and its just paying for a logo
The MoMcoco bags are gorgeous in their size, weight and color. Bought pink, cream and blue. I think I might go back and order the light lilac, light blue and red. I own some high priced designer handbags, but I like these even more!
I got authentic polo , Versace, and no name brands that is not expensive yet because they are new on the seen . They should be . Like Barry Wang bomber jackets was less than a hundred when , when you look at the embroidery and the designer style and threading it should have went for at least 200$ . Point is , if I like it I’m going to buy it if in my price range. It’s not about trying to look rich , but look good and that despite being from the minority streets , you’re doing what you got to do , handling your business and alive living to the fullest of your ability
The people who know know. It‘s still the game of impressing others with your belongings. It’s just that some goods are more recognizable to laymen than others. At the end of the day, it‘s the same game….which is just played among different social circles…
A backpack from Louis Vuitton is about $5,000 USD. The gold Rolex datejust in your thumbnail is about 15-23k depending on whether it’s purchased at resale value or brand new. A Louis Vuitton suitcase styled to look like an LV trunk is about 10k usd. Poor people like me don’t have the money to spend on a 20,000 dollar watch even if we really really wanted to. This is copium. Eat the rich.
You’re quite wrong. I have a few rich friends and they buy LV and Gucci. One of my friends got a Croc Birkin and an LV monogram bag on a trip to Paris. Stop generalizing.
Why the goods so expensive. And poor people can’t afford them. And I come from the best of both worlds and in both worlds lower A class/ upper B class to the lower upper C everyone dressed their best and designer brands ! And was raised to . Everyone wants the best life has to offer especially the tyrant rich
The thing is rich people are too out of sink with what’s “hip” ! Alien style ain’t what’s up in these streets to us. What ever I got , I look like a million bucks in . And with a million bucks , I would look like a billion
Why are anti-luxury people just as out of touch with reality with pro-luxury consumers? Poor people are struggling to pay bills, buy food and afford basic necessities. If you’re equating the middle/upper middle class with being poor, you are equally delusional. If you equate luxury with “looking rich”, that’s your own insecurity. People buy things they like, and that’s okay.
I suppose it all depends on everyone’s definitions of luxury. One thing that is undeniable, is that the bags the sell best, are the ones with the largest logos, and there are extensive studies to prove it. Why? Because many people buy these bags because of the attention they draw, not for themselves to get utility out of
@@PatrickMcNamara8 nah the birkin would sell the most if it was available. birkin these days is just as much a "poor person's version of a rich person" thing. your intro would have made sense in 2004, but it's just super uninformed now. everyone and their mother knows what a birkin is. everyone has also heard of brunello cucinelli and especially patek philippe. your whole new money vs old money narrative (which is totally overdone as well as of 2024) also leaves out that there are actual interesting brands that are not flashy, like Rick Owens. Rick is far from old money but not a logomania brand. There is a whole luxury fashion scene like that, which you fail to mention in your no nuance nellie video. it's not black and white old money vs new money, rich vs poor, but many shades in between.
@@5naf6 that is a BOLD statement to say that everyone knows what a Birkin bag is. Ask 100 people who do not live in a Major city what Hermes is and I’m sure most would not be able to tell you. Just because your circle is informed, does not mean that everyone knows what a birkin is…
@@PatrickMcNamara8no my dude, everyone does. because people have been making old money videos for over a year now. that's why your video comes off as so uninformed. this is content that has been made all throughout 2023. you did not bring anything new to the table with this.
@@5naf6 I can literally guarantee you they don’t, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because other people have made content about this topic, does not mean that all 8 billion people on this planet know about the topic. You can’t possibly tell me that you believe that with a straight face
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What is all of your take on this topic? Do you think that there is genuine value behind these goods? Or do they merely exist to create the illusion of "status?"
I am so frustrated by such videos, which are made on a hype over new and old money distinction. Made by someone who doesn’t understand the topic for someone who doesn’t understand the topic.
All luxury brands have stock lines which do have logos all over the place (just because it’s trendy now), as well as some more quiet pieces which don’t yell at you about their price tag, made from better quality materials - for instance leathers which are generally produced only in certain parts of the world or even country, which makes them more expensive (for instance Hermes Togo Leather of LV Taurilion leather).
Saying that rich people don’t buy LV, YSL or Gucci is a straight up madness. It’s all up to the person style and preferences.
I am so frustrated by such videos, which are made on a hype over new and old money distinction. Made by someone who doesn’t understand the topic for someone who doesn’t understand the topic.
All luxury brands have stock lines which do have logos all over the place (just because it’s trendy now), as well as some more quiet pieces which don’t yell at you about their price tag, made from better quality materials - for instance leathers which are generally produced only in certain parts of the world or even country, which makes them more expensive (for instance Hermes Togo Leather of LV Taurilion leather).
Saying that rich people don’t buy LV, YSL or Gucci is a straight up madness. It’s all up to the person style and preferences.
My house and cars are paid off, no credit card debt, and a closet full of clothes from JP Penny, Wal-Mart, etc. I think I’m entitled to my one luxury item (Rolex). It’s for me and I don’t care what other people think about it. Any opinions?
Generalization videos like this by someone who clearly doesn’t underfashion neither the brands exposed to a mass public who mostly doesn’t understand is even worse… people do not just but clothes for status some buy it for the love to fashion design, history references, inspiration, etc. Those brands you mentioned have multiple styles that are very elegant, have wonderful high quality materials and do not have displayed logos as well.
This stupid obsession with the old money and new money style is ridiculous- by portraying yourself in one or the other it won’t govern you upbringing, values, education, experience, breed , assets, inheritance etc form the old money, neither the new millions of the other, this topic is very much more complex
buying BigMac ❎
buying McDonald’s stock ✅
buying Dior Hermès LV shoes ❎
buying LVMH stock ✅
staying at Hyatt❎
buying Hyatt’s stock ✅
Exactly exactly!
Same!!
I love how only old and new money is mentioned, and there are literal thousands of millionaires in between that just grab the first blue shirt in GAP + the comfy pair of sketchers, hop in their Ford trucks and just have a good time running their businesses and hanging out with their friends, not being bothered by any of the topics in the video.
Guess it is just strongly outside the scope of the video, not omitted by accident
@@PatrickMcNamara8 agree on this, just saying that most of the videos on YT are skipping on that class of people in general when the topic is stealth wealth.
@@buzzvuzz fair point
This video was made by someone who doesn't understand wealth
But spend exorbitantly lots of money to go watch a football game. Different wants for different people.
I have two Gucci bags but I’m embarrassed to wear them because of the logos and because of the very tacky pop celebrities who wears the brand in an over the top manner.
3 to 4k+ for a handbag just to carry tissue to blow your boogers. That's insane
And it can get A LOT more than 4K
Add to that your a walking BILLBOARD….no thanks I prefer to have my money in the bank and invested.
Despite my advice, my 27 yo son has fallen into this trap of trying to look rich. He’s in debt, has zero savings and lives pay check to pay check. He makes ludicrous payments on a car he can’t afford, along with buying Jordans and other items of clothing with the brand logo on full display
cries in having spent stimulus checks on rent and diabetic supplies for husband.
I bought myself a Rolex when I got my CPA license. It was less than $10,000. It was the subtle Explorer 2.
Getting my license took 6 years of constant discipline and hard work. The watch was a treat to myself after saving for 5 years.
What’s crazy to me is that some people go into debt or draw from their retirement accounts to acquire these luxury items.
Buy what you love and can AFFORD.
The simplest you go the richer you are 😊
This really is it
Lots of rich people buy this stuff - but why is that even important? I remember from working in the industry that 1% of very wealthy clients would literally make up about 40%-50% of the turnover - in RTW it would be higher, and in accessories a bit lower. Apart from that there is no “quiet luxury” or “old money” aesthetics. In the history of fashion we move from minimalist periods to maximalist and back - nothing new. Apart from that, it’s funny to jump on the bandwagon of criticizing logos, while trying to mimic what you believe “old money” would wear with sweatshop clothing from fast fashion brands made of plastic.
i have gotten some really nice clothes from the thrift store as well as some decent looking and ok quality watches and jewelry from thrift stores. with these, i can appear richer to to many fake rich while still being within my financial means
True wealth does not show on clothes that someone wears, or the bags they carry. Whatever is best for the individual is the path forward, always
I don’t do logos. Never did. I grew up poor af. Still am. My mom would occasionally buy me Hollister but she knew I don’t do logos. I still go to Aeropostale but I just buy Henleys & pants. 😂 some thought I was rich in school bc my cousin’s family is.
If I had money money, I’d have some high end name brand luxury goods like Gucci but most would be the more expensive unheard of brands.
Logos cheapen goods in my opinion, more focus is put on the logo plastered all over than making the item actually high quality, so I totally agree
amazing quality!!! wouldve thought this videos had thousands of views
Many thanks, maybe one day the algorithm will bless it haha
I think the concept of clothes is fashion, and *amzclothes* not only makes women more beautiful, but also supports them mentally and makes them more confident.
I really love *gtdupe* bags. The fabric is very good. The golden embellishments add a touch of beauty. When I went to the church, I received some praise.
Rich people by both loud and quiet fashion
They don’t buy it to appear rich it’s a good quality bags.all of the high end bags are just hand made stuff that use the same materials as the other brands.
It really depends on the person I feel
Don't lie to yourself. They're made in the same sweatshops. And don't even get me started on "quality" 😂
@@zhanna7307 If they're made in Europe then its already different than 99% of brands
The rich CHOOSE to dress the way they do, the rest of us have no choice.
The rich can easily go between generic and luxury brands, the rest of us don’t have that choice.
I think choice is a key part of the whole dilemma of this who situation, whether choice is the driving factor, or some other external force
Hey Patrick are you in anyway connected with the channel "RAISED". Just wondering because I see the same scripted video from that channel. Just out of curiosity and not to mind anyway please.
Feel free to avoid responding. A curious question that's all.
Nope! Did do a lot of research for this video, so good chance there is a good amount of overlap from other channels, but not sure tbh
It’s simple really…
Look back at the history of items before they became luxury items.
They were originally tools created for functional purposes.
Watch was originally created as a tool to tell the time.
A bag was a practical item to carry items.
A car was created to replace horse carriage.
They were all originally created for functional purposes. But how do you convince people to buy these tools for public and everyday life use? They had it to make it attractive by adding decoration of luxury. Just like you decorate cakes otherwise people wouldn’t buy it.
To make the items attractive to the public, the concept of luxury was created.
Luxury is a man made concept.
People who buys luxury items are generally unaware of the items origin. Like Rolex was originally a tool that people forgot or unaware of. But Rolex’s marketing overshadowed the watch history by making people to focus on the watch’s aesthetics. They added decorations to the watch Ike diamond and gold.
Very well said, this really is exactly it.
This whole idea is beyond stupid to me. The whole point of having massive wealth is to manipulate the power that comes with it, not buy barely fashionable tacky goods like an idiot.
This is the key of the issue, it’s really for no one!
The first two brown bags do look cheap asf, like who wouldn’t tell?
Literally 99% of people
99.99%
No one thinks they buy status. 99% of people don’t even notice what others care or wear. Only those of us into this stuff do.😊
As a millionaire myself I’d say I don’t care for luxury items that much at all. Luxury items like Gucci or LV don’t seem luxurious to me anymore. When I was younger I saw people wearing Gucci and LV in the bus or subway and I used to think if they’re rich why are there using public transport. I believe more in good fabric and comfort. Therefore I understand what you’re trying to say. I get my clothes tailored by my family tailor so my clothes are custom made for me. The only ‘luxurious’ things I wear are my watches since I’m very into watches and probably the only items I spend lots of money on apart from my technology which aids my work. The only way legitimately people can tell if I’m rich or not is looking at my wrist. Otherwise I’ll look like some accountant.
the term is "aspirational". wanting to be someone in image only.
Yup that’s it!
Its not for poor people because poor people just dream in buying it,people who buy it are rich people,perhaps new rich wh o just want to show they have money ,but old rich also buy all this thing or have since few generation..
i found that honestly clothes, shoes and bags in the range of around 30 40 up to maybe 100 150$ and shoes around 100 to 200$ offer the best quality for the money. Anything above that and its just paying for a logo
The MoMcoco bags are gorgeous in their size, weight and color. Bought pink, cream and blue. I think I might go back and order the light lilac, light blue and red. I own some high priced designer handbags, but I like these even more!
Whatever I see that is nice to my eyes & don't create a dent in my wallet, I'll buy it. I don't go go for the brand. More to comfort.
I got authentic polo , Versace, and no name brands that is not expensive yet because they are new on the seen . They should be . Like Barry Wang bomber jackets was less than a hundred when , when you look at the embroidery and the designer style and threading it should have went for at least 200$ . Point is , if I like it I’m going to buy it if in my price range. It’s not about trying to look rich , but look good and that despite being from the minority streets , you’re doing what you got to do , handling your business and alive living to the fullest of your ability
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This video is ripped off from TH-cam channel RAISED.
You could say this is a knock-off
Quite the statement there my friend, does anyone own the facts presented in this video? I would say not
The people who know know. It‘s still the game of impressing others with your belongings. It’s just that some goods are more recognizable to laymen than others. At the end of the day, it‘s the same game….which is just played among different social circles…
After watching your video I bought the *amzclothes* - it is amazing!!! Thanks for your video. Hope you have a great week!
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Just because u can buy it doesn't mean u can afford it..
A backpack from Louis Vuitton is about $5,000 USD. The gold Rolex datejust in your thumbnail is about 15-23k depending on whether it’s purchased at resale value or brand new. A Louis Vuitton suitcase styled to look like an LV trunk is about 10k usd.
Poor people like me don’t have the money to spend on a 20,000 dollar watch even if we really really wanted to.
This is copium. Eat the rich.
Buy good, not expensive
Out of the three bags at the beginning. Only the Hermes bag looks like a fashionable item. The other both look like gimmicks
Great video!👏🏼
Glad you liked it!! More like it on the way!
It’s bottega véneta, with the accent on the e not on the a. It is an Italian brand
So it’s not venetAAAAAA
@@PatrickMcNamara8 nooooooo. The brand is located in Vicenza and Vicenza is part of the province Veneto, therefore bottega veneta
Hmm, cr7 posting a bunch of LV bags , wearing gucci , this unknown TH-camr Mr beast on a podcast full Gucci , yeah those are broke as hell
You’re quite wrong. I have a few rich friends and they buy LV and Gucci. One of my friends got a Croc Birkin and an LV monogram bag on a trip to Paris. Stop generalizing.
Great video…
Well, technically the people buying these screaming logos are still rich cause they can still afford buying them.
I love the brand "Her-Mez" whatever that brand is.
Why the goods so expensive. And poor people can’t afford them. And I come from the best of both worlds and in both worlds lower A class/ upper B class to the lower upper C everyone dressed their best and designer brands ! And was raised to . Everyone wants the best life has to offer especially the tyrant rich
T rant
If this ain’t the truth!
The thing is rich people are too out of sink with what’s “hip” ! Alien style ain’t what’s up in these streets to us. What ever I got , I look like a million bucks in . And with a million bucks , I would look like a billion
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Why are anti-luxury people just as out of touch with reality with pro-luxury consumers? Poor people are struggling to pay bills, buy food and afford basic necessities. If you’re equating the middle/upper middle class with being poor, you are equally delusional. If you equate luxury with “looking rich”, that’s your own insecurity. People buy things they like, and that’s okay.
I suppose it all depends on everyone’s definitions of luxury. One thing that is undeniable, is that the bags the sell best, are the ones with the largest logos, and there are extensive studies to prove it. Why? Because many people buy these bags because of the attention they draw, not for themselves to get utility out of
@@PatrickMcNamara8 nah the birkin would sell the most if it was available. birkin these days is just as much a "poor person's version of a rich person" thing. your intro would have made sense in 2004, but it's just super uninformed now. everyone and their mother knows what a birkin is. everyone has also heard of brunello cucinelli and especially patek philippe.
your whole new money vs old money narrative (which is totally overdone as well as of 2024) also leaves out that there are actual interesting brands that are not flashy, like Rick Owens. Rick is far from old money but not a logomania brand. There is a whole luxury fashion scene like that, which you fail to mention in your no nuance nellie video. it's not black and white old money vs new money, rich vs poor, but many shades in between.
@@5naf6 that is a BOLD statement to say that everyone knows what a Birkin bag is. Ask 100 people who do not live in a Major city what Hermes is and I’m sure most would not be able to tell you. Just because your circle is informed, does not mean that everyone knows what a birkin is…
@@PatrickMcNamara8no my dude, everyone does. because people have been making old money videos for over a year now. that's why your video comes off as so uninformed. this is content that has been made all throughout 2023. you did not bring anything new to the table with this.
@@5naf6 I can literally guarantee you they don’t, but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Just because other people have made content about this topic, does not mean that all 8 billion people on this planet know about the topic. You can’t possibly tell me that you believe that with a straight face
Balenciaga is not about new money. It is daring and ironic. It is a statement on society.
The rich enjoys good food and wine that tastes like crap. 😂
Did you know Louie Vuitton sells fakes in their own stores? Fashion brands now have very low QC.
MoMacoco ’s bags are your partner in young people’s fashion journey
I like *amzclothes* 's replica goods very much. I have to admit that their products are really well done. There are many styles and colors to choose from. I've had it for a week now and I'm very happy with it.