I appreciate the great content and info you share. This helps in seeing some real world usage, and ideas for my 23 Black Diamond (Non-SAS) build. Did you have to use spacers for the BD wheel swap due to off-set?
I purchased a set of these tires for my 2015 4runner in a 285/70/17 mounted on a set of Method 703 wheels. First real test was a road trip to Vermillion Cliffs area of northern AZ last March. Encountered quite a bit of peanut butter like mud on House Rock Rd and lots of snow on the road into White Pocket. Tires handled great in all of those conditions. There is a noticeable hum white driving but it's not as bad as the Toyo MTs I had on a FJ Cruise I previously owned. I also just finished a long road trip to the PNW from SoCal and I'm very happy with the road manners of these tires. Thanks again for producing these tire review videos. I feel a series of reviews over a long period of time adds a ton of value instead of the typical "I just bought these tires and I think they're great".
Thanks for the review on these tires. I am all over the place with all these tire options lol, I also very much like the Yokohama Geolandar G003 MTs which are also D rated and very light at 76lbs for a Mud Terrain 37X12.50R17 tire size. Their true measurement is 36.8X13.1 which if you like the wide look is awesome for the 76lb weight.
You don't hear much about the Yokohama tire, there's a fella on TH-cam who runs Yokohama tires when traveling around the world. Not sure if he's sponsored by them or chooses them. Either way, he has good things to say.
I ran 37x12.50r17 GOO3 in moab for a week. They are AMAZING for traction. But they chunked out really bad. I only had 3k miles on them. Dt warranted them out and I went with Wildpeak at4w's
Got a set on 17 x 9- 37" on a Jeep Wrangler rubicon. Just did the Rubicon trail and got rain on the ride out, so Cadillac Hill and it was wet and sloppy as we were at the rear of the pack. Aired down to 17 psi. and have to say I was throughly impressed. Slippage was almost nonexistent. There were places that I figured they would let me down, but they clawed up them and over snotty slick boulders and never let me down. They had about 5k on them as the jeep is also a daily driver. I'm curious about snow and ice handling, so as the winter approaches, I'll update. I'm up in the Tahoe area, so it'll be fun to find out. That being said, I'll say they are, in my opinion, much better than the old KO2s that were on before. The Toyos are a teenie bit louder on the highway, but it matters not at all to me. So as of now I'd buy them again. Thumbs up so far.
I know you’ve mentioned buying another pair of these tires, but any thoughts on a different tire and a new video series???… It would be fun to see you put another new tire or perhaps a less common set through its paces!
@@mkgnlgt thought about it and certainly would be more interesting. I’ve had great success with these and only have to buy four new tires. I’d have to give it some thought. Hmmm
I know you mentioned how you wish they made a 11.50, they do it's a 285/75R17. However it's a 34"x11.50" load E tire, just bought a set for my Tacoma and love smooth they are compared to the Toyo MT I had prior.
So I don’t know if they just don’t make them where you are but I’ve been price shopping and they make a 35x11.50r20 here where i am. Idk if they have sense then but may look around and see if you can find some.
@@NorthwestBronco over all you recommend them? I’m mainly highway and some off road. It’s always scary to go with a newer tire not knowing the cons to them.
I think would be good to try it in high elevation, twisty and icy condition if you haven't and send the feedback to Toyo. This is the only worry I have with this tire. Toyo ATIII which I run today is relatively good in this condition but lacking grip in the trails, puncture resistance (I punctured at least 2 tires in 10K miles) and desert running.
During the winter, I drive over a summit to get to the desert. I thought they did just fine. But I drive super slow in sketchy conditions. They are ALMOST a rated snow tire. I read that they almost got it, but fell just short. I used to run the A/T's back in the day. Never got a flat, but didn't push them that hard. Thank you for the comment and info!
I have a 23 Bronco Black Diamond with the 2.7 and went with the 285/75r17 with is actually the same height as the factory Sasquatch “35s” but they are 11.5 wide. Absolutely love them! However be mindful that not all RT trails are D rated. Mine are E as well as the 35x12.5r17. The 315/70r17 is as you know D rated, I actually like that they made this tire in 2 different ratings for the guys with trucks that are going to tow and etc 👍🏻
Have you noticed any dry rot? I have a little over 10k on my RTs, and am noticing the start of dry rot on all 4 corners on my Tacoma (285 75 r16 E Load)
I think the biggest misconception everyone has with Hybrid style AT tires is their expectations with wet roads. You’re getting that harder MT rubber compound with a AT style tread. Just my opinion. I’ve had two set of Ridge Grapplers and I knew before purchasing that the tires were a harder rubber.
This is very true. They aren't really good at anything and not really bad at anything. Just all around decent tire. The heaviness of the sidewall is a nice feature. No flats yet. Thank you for the comment!
Off road pressures of 28 psi?.....honestly, try dropping them down to no more than 18 psi for the type of terrain you're showing in the video. Your tires will thank you as you will actually protect the tire's carcass and sidewall plus you'll have even better off road performance. The bigger the tire, the less air pressure you need to hold up the load and you've got a lot of surface area with those fat 35's.
Great comment indeed! The only reason I don't is because I made the mistake of installing a single air compressor under the hood. Takes FOREVER to fill them back up :) Maybe it's time for a dual compressor!
@NorthwestBronco there is another good one Thor's Lightning they even have a bracket to install it in the rearnof the Bronco but they didn't have it for soft top version. I also realized I want mine portable if anyone else needs help on the trail. It goes same for a tent, I want to be able to set one up where I want because sometimes vehicles cant go to best locations.
@@NorthwestBronco Go to your local welding shop and pick up a 10lb or 20lb bottle. Poly Performance sales a 150psi max regulator for 50 bucks. Get ya a 3ft hose for the tank and your set. Cost around 26 bucks to get the tank filled, but will do a lot of tires and faster.
I appreciate the great content and info you share. This helps in seeing some real world usage, and ideas for my 23 Black Diamond (Non-SAS) build. Did you have to use spacers for the BD wheel swap due to off-set?
@@derek7844 thank you! No spacers needed. These are on a SAS Badlands. Hope this helps!
I purchased a set of these tires for my 2015 4runner in a 285/70/17 mounted on a set of Method 703 wheels. First real test was a road trip to Vermillion Cliffs area of northern AZ last March. Encountered quite a bit of peanut butter like mud on House Rock Rd and lots of snow on the road into White Pocket. Tires handled great in all of those conditions. There is a noticeable hum white driving but it's not as bad as the Toyo MTs I had on a FJ Cruise I previously owned. I also just finished a long road trip to the PNW from SoCal and I'm very happy with the road manners of these tires. Thanks again for producing these tire review videos. I feel a series of reviews over a long period of time adds a ton of value instead of the typical "I just bought these tires and I think they're great".
Great info there. Can you tell me your thoughts on the muds vs these? Would you buy the muds again? Thank you for the kind words!
Perfect video. To the point, and it hit on everything important. Thanks.
Very welcome!
Thanks for the review on these tires. I am all over the place with all these tire options lol, I also very much like the Yokohama Geolandar G003 MTs which are also D rated and very light at 76lbs for a Mud Terrain 37X12.50R17 tire size. Their true measurement is 36.8X13.1 which if you like the wide look is awesome for the 76lb weight.
You don't hear much about the Yokohama tire, there's a fella on TH-cam who runs Yokohama tires when traveling around the world. Not sure if he's sponsored by them or chooses them. Either way, he has good things to say.
I ran 37x12.50r17 GOO3 in moab for a week. They are AMAZING for traction. But they chunked out really bad. I only had 3k miles on them. Dt warranted them out and I went with Wildpeak at4w's
Got a set on 17 x 9- 37" on a Jeep Wrangler rubicon. Just did the Rubicon trail and got rain on the ride out, so Cadillac Hill and it was wet and sloppy as we were at the rear of the pack. Aired down to 17 psi. and have to say I was throughly impressed. Slippage was almost nonexistent. There were places that I figured they would let me down, but they clawed up them and over snotty slick boulders and never let me down. They had about 5k on them as the jeep is also a daily driver. I'm curious about snow and ice handling, so as the winter approaches, I'll update. I'm up in the Tahoe area, so it'll be fun to find out. That being said, I'll say they are, in my opinion, much better than the old KO2s that were on before. The Toyos are a teenie bit louder on the highway, but it matters not at all to me. So as of now I'd buy them again. Thumbs up so far.
Thank you for the great info!
I know you’ve mentioned buying another pair of these tires, but any thoughts on a different tire and a new video series???…
It would be fun to see you put another new tire or perhaps a less common set through its paces!
@@mkgnlgt thought about it and certainly would be more interesting. I’ve had great success with these and only have to buy four new tires. I’d have to give it some thought. Hmmm
I know you mentioned how you wish they made a 11.50, they do it's a 285/75R17. However it's a 34"x11.50" load E tire, just bought a set for my Tacoma and love smooth they are compared to the Toyo MT I had prior.
That's certainly an option. Glad to hear the E rated tires are a nice ride. Thank you for the information!
So I don’t know if they just don’t make them where you are but I’ve been price shopping and they make a 35x11.50r20 here where i am. Idk if they have sense then but may look around and see if you can find some.
Do you see a r17? Thank you for the info!
@@NorthwestBronco over all you recommend them? I’m mainly highway and some off road. It’s always scary to go with a newer tire not knowing the cons to them.
I think would be good to try it in high elevation, twisty and icy condition if you haven't and send the feedback to Toyo. This is the only worry I have with this tire. Toyo ATIII which I run today is relatively good in this condition but lacking grip in the trails, puncture resistance (I punctured at least 2 tires in 10K miles) and desert running.
During the winter, I drive over a summit to get to the desert. I thought they did just fine. But I drive super slow in sketchy conditions. They are ALMOST a rated snow tire. I read that they almost got it, but fell just short. I used to run the A/T's back in the day. Never got a flat, but didn't push them that hard. Thank you for the comment and info!
I have a 23 Bronco Black Diamond with the 2.7 and went with the 285/75r17 with is actually the same height as the factory Sasquatch “35s” but they are 11.5 wide. Absolutely love them! However be mindful that not all RT trails are D rated. Mine are E as well as the 35x12.5r17. The 315/70r17 is as you know D rated, I actually like that they made this tire in 2 different ratings for the guys with trucks that are going to tow and etc 👍🏻
@@ShirtlessMike great info there!
Have you noticed any dry rot? I have a little over 10k on my RTs, and am noticing the start of dry rot on all 4 corners on my Tacoma (285 75 r16 E Load)
@@antoniovaldes1908 interesting question. No, I haven’t had that issue. Where do you live?
I think the biggest misconception everyone has with Hybrid style AT tires is their expectations with wet roads. You’re getting that harder MT rubber compound with a AT style tread. Just my opinion. I’ve had two set of Ridge Grapplers and I knew before purchasing that the tires were a harder rubber.
This is very true. They aren't really good at anything and not really bad at anything. Just all around decent tire. The heaviness of the sidewall is a nice feature. No flats yet. Thank you for the comment!
Off road pressures of 28 psi?.....honestly, try dropping them down to no more than 18 psi for the type of terrain you're showing in the video. Your tires will thank you as you will actually protect the tire's carcass and sidewall plus you'll have even better off road performance. The bigger the tire, the less air pressure you need to hold up the load and you've got a lot of surface area with those fat 35's.
Great comment indeed! The only reason I don't is because I made the mistake of installing a single air compressor under the hood. Takes FOREVER to fill them back up :) Maybe it's time for a dual compressor!
@@NorthwestBronco I bought the Morflate dual Compressor with 4 hoses, best money spent on offroad equipment, I dont regret it one bit 😊.
@@ndm8447 I'll check that out. Thank you for the advice!
@NorthwestBronco there is another good one Thor's Lightning they even have a bracket to install it in the rearnof the Bronco but they didn't have it for soft top version. I also realized I want mine portable if anyone else needs help on the trail. It goes same for a tent, I want to be able to set one up where I want because sometimes vehicles cant go to best locations.
@@NorthwestBronco Go to your local welding shop and pick up a 10lb or 20lb bottle. Poly Performance sales a 150psi max regulator for 50 bucks. Get ya a 3ft hose for the tank and your set. Cost around 26 bucks to get the tank filled, but will do a lot of tires and faster.