Also, around the time Bryan started using KENTA's Busaiku Knee in WWE, KENTA started using Bryan's LeBell/YES Lock in NOAH. The two of them respect each other a lot.
@@levisamom5069 well they both have, just a different one. Both of them borrow from actual real BJJ techniques. The Crippler Crossface traps the arm using a variation of a "crucifix", while the LeBell Lock starts from an omoplata shoulder lock. That's a very real submission, like the Kimura is. From someone who has grappling experience buying into pro-wrestling submission holds is kinda hard, guys like Danielson make it a lot easier.
@@afd19850 The Stroke is done with one hand on the back of the head while holding the other arm outstretched. Then you pull back and slam them face first. Very different. He doesn't put anyone in a full Nelson to do it.
@@heartless_raven He just didn't have the mic skills or charisma like that of his brother Joe Laurinaitis (a.k.a. Road Warrior Animal) to be an active in ring talent, but he was an in ring innovator. I'm actually disappointed he didn't get a chance to bust out an Ace Crusher at least once during his feud with CM Punk
@@owenkorando9595 im pretty sure hayes used more of a cutter version like the twist of fate he taught the hardys. Called it the Just Like That because you could hit it just like that. You can probably find the clip on youtube where the hardys and hayes talk about it. It was when he was their manager.
I was going to say that as well. He wasn't the first person to use it and that it was from the guy he wrestle with in ECW. It's really weird he barely gets noticed when talking about wrestling since he is influential in the industry. The youngest ECW triple crown winner, trained several notable wrestlers that appeared in WWE and beyond, and his size and statue made the impression that you don't have to be muscular to be a wrestling champ.
@@RickC28 he trained a lot of guys like the S.A.T and amazing red. Also trained divine storm and brian xl. Him and tajiris tag team with james mitchell was awesome. He always had good matches with innovative ideas. Like chris kanyon another great innovativer in the ring with great mic skills. I loved mortis when i was a kid lol
My favorite Eddie story was from Jericho when they first met and Eddie asked his name. Jericho said his gimmick name “El Corazon de Lion”. Eddie snapped at him and said “Your real name not your gimmick you fucking mark!” I believe he then stormed off.
Eddie himself, while at Japan, used a sitout pin variant of the crucifix powerbomb (Diamond's Edge, Razor's Edge, Outsider's Edge, et al) when he wrestled as Black Tiger II (the move was called the BT Bomb) and even had it as a finisher on WCW/nWo Revenge. He took it from Mark Rocco (the original Black Tiger), though; with the bomb itself being innovated by Kyoko Inoue.
I mean is it still called a “stolen move” if you started doing a move without knowing that someone has done it before?! Because there are thousands of moves in wrestling and no matter how original your new move looks to you, there is a possibility that someone somewhere has done it before.
You have to keep in mind though, most wrestlers wer e fans as kids. So they probably aways had a favorite move to use when "not trying it at home". I know my finishing move was the Texas Cloverleaf.
Yes there can only be so many moves that you’re bound to have the same move but under a different name and then what is considered stolen ? depending on the wrestler Chris Jericho used double Boston crab as a finisher but everyone calls it the walls of Jericho. So which is it did Jericho steal the move or invented a new move fans can’t make up there minds.
I was following back in those days and I saw him use the GTS from time to time as well. It was literally him doing a big F you to the IWC who was giving him shit at the time for "stealing" Japanese wrestlers moves
I enjoy it more when "basic" moves are elevated to credible finisher status through strong booking etc. rather than unique flashy finishers. For example the powerbomb for Walter & Wardlow or just a brutal lariat for Bradshaw and Stan Hansen
@V0nyx Black Bordeaux Even the DDT is barely a transitional move these days. If someone ever actually got hit with one in a real street fight they would be DEAD! But I think that wrestling REALLY jumped the shark when people started using a Canadian Destroyer as a set up move. Keep it simple I say.
@V0nyx Black Bordeaux The last person I saw use it as a finisher was Maryse, and I honestly think she had the best DDT out of everyone. She would kick her leg back to get some extra stank on it and it was a thing of beauty.
@@stankingzton3564 and was acknowledged as such on WWF TV too. I'm pretty sure that he retired it when Goldberg first came around. Any self-respecting Billy Gunn CAW on the Fire ProWrestling games should have it as a signature move (the one I downloaded for FPW World does).
I’ll argue with the Styles Clash entry. I saw AJ use that at the WWA touring show in 2001. In an interview later he was asked the origin of the move and he said he came up with it watching kids playing on a trampoline. Maybe doesn’t prove he invented it, but he definitely beat Crash Holly to it.
"It's fair to say that Kevin has put his own spin on a classic" It's really not. There's no "spin" on it. He just does it the same. Also weird that you don't mention that Austin stole the move as well.
Glad someone finally admitted that Crash did it first. Crash Holly invented some nice moves and is such an underrated wrestler. One of the unsung heroes of the industry.
I was going to say this too... The weird thing about it being called the Impaler was that Gangrel's finisher was called the Impaler, and it was a completely different move
Helms wasn't actually doing a shining wizard, though; he was doing a glimmering warlock, which was innovated by Arik Cannon. His Vertabreaker is also borrowed from a wrestler from Japan: Meguki Kudo's Kudome Valentine.
I also remember Helms saying at some point that he had asked for Mutoh's blessing and claimed he was the only Western wrestler to have that seal of approval.
Most of these moves, the wrestlers have been able to make the move their own, but I can't say that about the Stunner. Not a slight against Owens. The kick Stunner just doesn't feel like a move that can suit anybody but Austin. Even the Pedigree, with is every bit as much "HHHs move" as the Stunner is "Austin's move", looks good on somebody else, but I can't look at the Stunner without seeing Austin.
For me personnaly, the issue I have with KO using the move is less than it being so associated with Austin that I can't see anyone else doing it...For me personally, it's the fact that it almost never wins KO a match. It's basically become a glorified transitional move, and it's a travesty IMO to see such a legendary move devolve into something like that. Now if KO did it and actually won matches with it on a consistent basis, I'd be perfectly OK with him doing it. And, I know wrestling has changed and it's happened with a lot of moves, like the DDT or the piledriver or, the Canadian destroyer being no more as effective as a simple body slam or a basic suplex, but certain moves should absolutely be protected, and personally I think the Stunner is one of them.
The Spear is a basic tackle, and too generic of a move to be "invented" by any one person. It'd be like someone saying they invented the left hook or the slap to the chest IMO.
@@Aevilbeast Goldberg was the first one both popularized and revolutionized the finisher through numerous Wrestler with different variations including Edge being the first one debut it in WWE on his debut, Rhyno in ECW and became a move from one Wrestler to next from Batista, Bobby Lashley, and Roman Reigns
I’m sure there’s lots of video ideas you guys have rattling around, but I had this idea yesterday: ranking every wrestler that every beat X from worst to best. Ranking them based on how much it did for their career, whether it was really worth it, etc (I was largely thinking about Hogan in the first place, but you could do it on basically any headliner from the attitude era)
07:20 TO BE FAIR; from what I remember reading baout that incident was that it was a rip by some other guys who knew that Gory invented it, telling Hassan that Eddie using it as normal move was undermining the credibility of the Camel Clutch as his Finisher.
Not going to mention how Austin took the stunner from Mikey Whipwreck, aka the whippersnapper? Kinda like how what happened to that wrestler’s theme took from what happened when, via Tony and Conrad? What even the abbreviations are close, poor shit mate.
@@jasonsabbath6996 Not the same move. and its Ace Crusher, as far as I know, Ace never had a move called the "Ace Breaker". He had the Ace Crusher (The Cutter), The Ace Crusher II(a legdrop bulldog), The Ace Cutter (a hangmans facebuster, ironically), and the Johnny Spike. (a DDT)
@@plannein "Joshi puroresu" is Japanese women's wrestling. "Joshi" by itself literally just means "girl". If you're gonna be pedantic, at least make sure you're right.
0:08 there is video evidence that Andre also had the double-arm facebuster (i.e. the Pedigree) as one of his moves, except that he did not jump like HHH.
Video Game Fact about #10: The Sasori is the name of the submission move by the long-haired character from the Ricky Fighters (who was most probably modeled after the creator of the move) in the NES game Tag Team Wrestling.
The Stunner wasn't Stone Cold's either. Jimmy Garvin did the move first in WCW. It was called the 911. Keith Lee's Ground Zero (or BBC) was originally done by Richard Slinger in Japan as the Chattanooga Choo Choo. Dennis Condrey first did the Skull Crushing Finale, which was then used by Brian Christopher, and then by Chris Jericho before Miz did it. Fair play to you about the Tomikaze. I thought Guido had done it first.
Kevin Nash, apparently the power bomb was invented byLou Thesz, but first time I remember it was by the Jumping Bomb AngelsBilly Gunn, the hint should be that the Fame-asser used to be called the Rocker Dropper
when finishers were for 1 wrestler only, no one used a DDT before Jake the snake, ever since, there's been over 100 variations, same as a piledriver, cutters ect. The unprettier was called the Impaler, in wwf attitude (the video game)
Surprised to see no mention of Victoria’s Widow’s Peak or Velvet Sky’s Stunner? Victoria got that finishing move after Molly Holly seen someone do it on the independent scene and showed Victoria how to use it. The stunner had Velvet ask Stone Cold permission could she use it upon her return to Impact Wrestling with her new look.
Saying Crash Holly did the Styles Clash in 2002 as though that means he did it first is false, AJ actually used the move during a match in his WCW tag run in 1999 I believe it was, and then used it as his finisher from then on.
It's a bit surprising to me that wrestlers get upset when someone else uses a move they came up with. I get the idea of wanting to be the one known for inventing a move, but I personally think that coming up with a move creative enough that others want to use it would be far more flattering, considering that could mean that you made a move that could very well stand the test of time.
When it comes to sharpshooter I've been arguing about that with people for years I never really knew who invented it I always thought it was a toss up between sting and Bret Hart
The Fiend took the Mandible Claw from Mick Foley who in turn took it from Dr Sam Sheppard . Sheppard was convicted of killing his wife but on appeal was found not guilty but was struck off from practicing medicine , psychology or psychiatry so he decided to wrestle for a while . When wrestling Sheppard came up with the Mandible Claw as a finisher .
Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't invent the cutter it was given to him by Mikey whipwreck when they were in ECW together and even Mikey whipwreck said he didn't invent it but it was gave to him
Johnny "Ace" invented the Cutter and by extension the Stunner. But it wasn't Whipwreck who gave Austin the move. Austin was first using the Million Dollar Dream (Cobra Clutch), they needed a new move once DiBiase left the WWE. Michael Hayes suggested the Stunner. After a few weeks of him just hitting it out of nowhere, they added the kick to the stomach.
@@daylenorrisakabamaboy1734 You could keep saying that, doesn't make it true. Austin has said many times that Michael Hayes suggested he use the move as Jimmy Garvin had used it way before Whipwreck. Whipwreck would do the move from different transitions, including the kick to the gut. Is it possible Austin got that from Whipwreck? Maybe. But he didn't need permission to use a move Whipwreck didn't even invent.
@@TRivera13 the only reason I say that Mikey whipwreck gave Stone Cold Steve Austin permission to do the cutter is because on one of Stone Cold videos he said that Mikey whipwreck gave him permission because Mikey whipwreck was doing the cutter at the time and nobody else was doing it in wrestling just like when Ric flair gave the Miz permission to do the figure for Ric flair didn't invent the figure for but he was doing it all those years it's like his signature move he gave it to the Miz heck I even say in my statement Mikey didn't invent the cutter and yes you are correct Michael Hayes suggested Stone Cold to change his finisher but he didn't tell him to start doing the cutter he asked him what other finishers does he do and Stone Cold mentioned he did the stunner in ECW that Mikey whipwreck let him do
@@daylenorrisakabamaboy1734 When Flair was wrestling, there was other wrestlers who used the Figure-Four as finishers (Buddy Landell, Greg Valentine). I never heard Austin mention anything about asking Whipwreck. But then Austin did respect him enough to put him over while he was in ECW.
Sure styles is more known for the elbow and the clash but do you also remember the spiral tap out of the inverted ddt or even the air raid crash as air styles as one half of air raid in wcw
I think it's funny every move that's been done before is a "stolen" move. Mind you there have been permissions or even suggested by the ones who trained them and/or mentors.
"My knees are knackered after all those Moonsaults. I need a move that'll be easier on them if I want to continue my career. I KNOW! I'll twat my opponents with one of my knees! GENIUS!"
I might be alone with this but I hate that Kevin Owens is using the Stunner. I never liked it, I can tolerate it with Austin bc of the icon status. The popup powerbomb was one of my favourite finishers too
I agree that KO using the stunner is bad, but even the Pop up Power bomb usually took me out the match when he would do it to people bigger than himself.
I can’t lie, I love the name Coast to Coast much more then the Van-Terminator I wish Rob would call it that but I get he wants to keep his moves HIS moves
should have included Hurricane and the Vertebreaker dude loves to say he invented it. but it was Kudo who did it first and it was known as the Kudo Driver
Didnt he call it "Welcome to the diamond mine"? Kinda a twisting gutwrench variant. DeBeers also invented the pedigree, well him or Andre they started using them around the same time. DeBeers would lift them vertical wheras Andre wouldnt jump
Also, around the time Bryan started using KENTA's Busaiku Knee in WWE, KENTA started using Bryan's LeBell/YES Lock in NOAH. The two of them respect each other a lot.
You mean CHRIS BENOITS Crippler Crossface? Not the yes lock lol
@@PlusUltra97 it's not the same move
@@PlusUltra97 it's not the same move...the lebell lock has an arm trapped element to it
Thank you for this information
@@levisamom5069 well they both have, just a different one. Both of them borrow from actual real BJJ techniques. The Crippler Crossface traps the arm using a variation of a "crucifix", while the LeBell Lock starts from an omoplata shoulder lock. That's a very real submission, like the Kimura is. From someone who has grappling experience buying into pro-wrestling submission holds is kinda hard, guys like Danielson make it a lot easier.
Honorable mention to The Miz.
The Skull Crushing Finale was actually invented by Dennis Condrey of The Midnight Express.
I thought Brian Lawler came up with it.
@@RedHood410 Isn’t it basically Double J’s the Stroke?
@@afd19850 Masters variation was basically just Jerichos Breakdown
@@RedHood410 apparently condrey has been doing it sense the early 80’s.
@@afd19850
The Stroke is done with one hand on the back of the head while holding the other arm outstretched. Then you pull back and slam them face first. Very different. He doesn't put anyone in a full Nelson to do it.
Damn John laurinaitis has had more of a impact than I thought
He was a star no doubt, it’s just that he’s destroyed his legacy being a Vince puppet in the last 20 years.
@@heartless_raven He just didn't have the mic skills or charisma like that of his brother Joe Laurinaitis (a.k.a. Road Warrior Animal) to be an active in ring talent, but he was an in ring innovator. I'm actually disappointed he didn't get a chance to bust out an Ace Crusher at least once during his feud with CM Punk
You forgot that Stone Cold got "The Stunner" from Mikey Whipwreck's "Whippersnapper"
Yeah everyone always forgets that.
And both got it from Michael ps Hayes
@@owenkorando9595 im pretty sure hayes used more of a cutter version like the twist of fate he taught the hardys. Called it the Just Like That because you could hit it just like that. You can probably find the clip on youtube where the hardys and hayes talk about it. It was when he was their manager.
I was going to say that as well. He wasn't the first person to use it and that it was from the guy he wrestle with in ECW.
It's really weird he barely gets noticed when talking about wrestling since he is influential in the industry.
The youngest ECW triple crown winner, trained several notable wrestlers that appeared in WWE and beyond, and his size and statue made the impression that you don't have to be muscular to be a wrestling champ.
@@RickC28 he trained a lot of guys like the S.A.T and amazing red. Also trained divine storm and brian xl. Him and tajiris tag team with james mitchell was awesome. He always had good matches with innovative ideas. Like chris kanyon another great innovativer in the ring with great mic skills. I loved mortis when i was a kid lol
Lol I wonder how Eddie felt seeing someone lying, cheating, and stealing his family’s moves 😂
My favorite Eddie story was from Jericho when they first met and Eddie asked his name. Jericho said his gimmick name “El Corazon de Lion”. Eddie snapped at him and said “Your real name not your gimmick you fucking mark!” I believe he then stormed off.
Eddie himself, while at Japan, used a sitout pin variant of the crucifix powerbomb (Diamond's Edge, Razor's Edge, Outsider's Edge, et al) when he wrestled as Black Tiger II (the move was called the BT Bomb) and even had it as a finisher on WCW/nWo Revenge. He took it from Mark Rocco (the original Black Tiger), though; with the bomb itself being innovated by Kyoko Inoue.
This sentence does not make sense. You can't lie someone's moves. Or cheat someone's move for that matter. 😆
Considering he "stole" the Frog splash from Art Barr, I doubt he cared
@@CLM1987 He used it as a tribute to Art Barr after his passing, so i wouldn't call that stealing.
I mean is it still called a “stolen move” if you started doing a move without knowing that someone has done it before?! Because there are thousands of moves in wrestling and no matter how original your new move looks to you, there is a possibility that someone somewhere has done it before.
You have to keep in mind though, most wrestlers wer e fans as kids. So they probably aways had a favorite move to use when "not trying it at home". I know my finishing move was the Texas Cloverleaf.
Yes there can only be so many moves that you’re bound to have the same move but under a different name and then what is considered stolen ? depending on the wrestler Chris Jericho used double Boston crab as a finisher but everyone calls it the walls of Jericho. So which is it did Jericho steal the move or invented a new move fans can’t make up there minds.
@@aeris...5389 It's called innovation and popularization
You really believe they created moves without knowing they already existed?
@@micahjohnsonboxing6409 I could see it.
I had this old Best of Punk in FIP DVD, and in some of the ROH matches you'll see him use the Anaconda Vice as the finish even back as far as 05
I was following back in those days and I saw him use the GTS from time to time as well. It was literally him doing a big F you to the IWC who was giving him shit at the time for "stealing" Japanese wrestlers moves
Doesn’t matter it’s still tenzan’s move
@@isamontasseri6686 no one tell this guy about the DDT
Actually he was using the Anaconda Vice way before 2005
@@isamontasseri6686 that move is literally a submission from jiu jitsu smh
I remember watching the Fantastics in a tag match and winning with the kill switch! It was amazing the first time I saw it! It looked brutal!
I enjoy it more when "basic" moves are elevated to credible finisher status through strong booking etc. rather than unique flashy finishers.
For example the powerbomb for Walter & Wardlow or just a brutal lariat for Bradshaw and Stan Hansen
Test Big Boot
The powerbomb has always been a finisher.
Okada's Rainmaker is just a basic Lariat but it's such a well-protected move
@V0nyx Black Bordeaux
Even the DDT is barely a transitional move these days. If someone ever actually got hit with one in a real street fight they would be DEAD!
But I think that wrestling REALLY jumped the shark when people started using a Canadian Destroyer as a set up move.
Keep it simple I say.
@V0nyx Black Bordeaux
The last person I saw use it as a finisher was Maryse, and I honestly think she had the best DDT out of everyone. She would kick her leg back to get some extra stank on it and it was a thing of beauty.
Billy Gunn shouldve called his version of the Styles Clash "The Ass Pounder"
Just yes
The truth I don’t think that’s pg
Billy Gunn also used the Jackhammer but it wasn't used as a finisher.
@@stankingzton3564 and was acknowledged as such on WWF TV too. I'm pretty sure that he retired it when Goldberg first came around.
Any self-respecting Billy Gunn CAW on the Fire ProWrestling games should have it as a signature move (the one I downloaded for FPW World does).
Gaaay! 😂😂😂
I’ll argue with the Styles Clash entry. I saw AJ use that at the WWA touring show in 2001. In an interview later he was asked the origin of the move and he said he came up with it watching kids playing on a trampoline. Maybe doesn’t prove he invented it, but he definitely beat Crash Holly to it.
Vicious Vic Grimes popularized the move at APW Hayward throughout the 90s,he called it the "Wild Fandango".
Yup Aj had it first
Colonel DeBeers was using it in the AWA back in the 80s, Styles didn't invent it
@@CLM1987 is there video evidence? I’m curious
Facts
Considering KENTA is using the LeBell Lock, which he calls the Game Over, I think he and Danielson are even.
Well, it's not like Danielson invented the LeBell lock...It existed a long time before time before he started to use it.
I think it's mutual respect.
Invented by Gene Lebell funnily enough
Glad to see Tommy Rogers get some love. Joey Styles mentioned how the Tomikaze was the most stolen move in wrestling at the time.
Interesting that for the Stunner entry Adam didn't mention that Austin wasn't the inventor of the move.
Yes he did. He said that John Laurenitis invented it, when he was in Japan. Then DDP started using it.
@@PrizeJ That's not the Stunner, dude.
Mikey Whipwreck was the first to do the stunner. He called it the whipper snapper
@@ThaJoker840 No he wasn't, it was still Johnny Ace/Laurenitis.
@@PrizeJ that’s a Cutter
The Van Terminator was such a cool move and When RVD Debuted it @ ECW Heatwave 2000 was such a cool moment.
Kevin Owens also used his F-Cinq (his version of the F-5) in RoH, then known as Kevin Steen.
ROH was known as Kevin Steen?
@@GinkgoPete in the independent circuit used his real name, Kevin Steen
But Brock wasnt even the first to do it, It was Brian Adams who invented it
@@ericmonaco4509 i remember seeing Shawn OHaire and Test using the move. When was Bryan Adams using it?
@@andrewmckee6580 About when he debuted with Brian Clark as Kronik
"It's fair to say that Kevin has put his own spin on a classic" It's really not. There's no "spin" on it. He just does it the same. Also weird that you don't mention that Austin stole the move as well.
Exactly. He got it from Mikey Whipwreck in ECW. The move was called the whippersnapper.
Wasn't the "whipper snapper" kind of the genesis of the stunner
I mean, it is a stunner.
It’s not the “Stone Cold Stunner” though
Very minuscule on the difference but the crotch kick makes it the SCS
Glad someone finally admitted that Crash did it first. Crash Holly invented some nice moves and is such an underrated wrestler. One of the unsung heroes of the industry.
They literally said he wasn't the first. What were you hearing?
@@PaxBisonica89
And they literally said it was Vic Grimes who came up with it, not AJ.
@@PrizeJ
Holy shit, was I the only one listening? AJ didn't come up with it either
@@RedHood410 Said it before I watched. Now I see that Vic Grimes did it way before anyone.
@@RedHood410 I was listening
The Killswitch/Unprettier was called the Impaler orginally. Just for a year or so, but it wasn't unnamed.
I was going to say this too... The weird thing about it being called the Impaler was that Gangrel's finisher was called the Impaler, and it was a completely different move
@@plannein That was later too. Gangrel's finisher was the Implant DDT at first.
The Styles Crash!!!
This was pretty cool. Thanks for a awesome video.
Helms wasn't actually doing a shining wizard, though; he was doing a glimmering warlock, which was innovated by Arik Cannon.
His Vertabreaker is also borrowed from a wrestler from Japan: Meguki Kudo's Kudome Valentine.
I also remember Helms saying at some point that he had asked for Mutoh's blessing and claimed he was the only Western wrestler to have that seal of approval.
Homicide does the Vertebreaker too but called "The Gringo K*lla"
@@itsKWhileHe's not from the WWE tho
@@NoahFan114 I know just saying he does it too
I'm glad you mentioned CM Punk and Kenta's GTS
Adam Cole's entire move set and gimmick
Most of these moves, the wrestlers have been able to make the move their own, but I can't say that about the Stunner. Not a slight against Owens. The kick Stunner just doesn't feel like a move that can suit anybody but Austin. Even the Pedigree, with is every bit as much "HHHs move" as the Stunner is "Austin's move", looks good on somebody else, but I can't look at the Stunner without seeing Austin.
Austin didn't invent the Stunner. I got it from Mikey Whipwreck when he was in ECW.
For me personnaly, the issue I have with KO using the move is less than it being so associated with Austin that I can't see anyone else doing it...For me personally, it's the fact that it almost never wins KO a match. It's basically become a glorified transitional move, and it's a travesty IMO to see such a legendary move devolve into something like that.
Now if KO did it and actually won matches with it on a consistent basis, I'd be perfectly OK with him doing it. And, I know wrestling has changed and it's happened with a lot of moves, like the DDT or the piledriver or, the Canadian destroyer being no more as effective as a simple body slam or a basic suplex, but certain moves should absolutely be protected, and personally I think the Stunner is one of them.
Owens does a much safer version of it.. Probably why you don't see it the same way
Poor Kenta got all his finishers stolen by guys that made them more famous.
Hell, even Randy Orton's Punt Kick was stolen from Kenta
"That thing he did with the chair skateboard-"
Van Sarah Connor. OS-DUB! OS-DUB!
Kenta finally getting his respect
Love to see a CM Punk vs Sammy Guevara match since Guevara's Go to Hell is a reverse GTS 🤨
Damn they took Kenta whole moveset
Whipwreck using the Stunner and Justin Credible using The Tombstone way back in Original ECW was always fun to see.
No soda can, mate. Line was too funny. So much so that it doubled me over like taking a low blow………. Poor Hurricane, lol
DDP: Use something else
Triple H: Alright
*A few days later*
DDP: So what’s your new move, how’d it go?
Triple H: 😳
don't forget Christian's finisher was also called the Impaler at one point oo
Thought that was edges move?
@@titoA4794 Yeah, Edge used an Impaler DDT that I think Gangrel used first, Edge called it the Edgecution.
I thought Victoria's Widow's Peak included since she admitted "stealing" it from Roderick Strong 😅
Actually Roderick didn’t use it instead he gave it to Victoria
In an interview at styles said he created the styles clash from seeing his friend botch a power bomb and he modified the botch
How about Goldberg's Spear VS. Numerous Spears? Or Rock Bottom Vs The Book End?
Or Undertaker's Chokeslam when it was used first by Sid
The Spear is a basic tackle, and too generic of a move to be "invented" by any one person. It'd be like someone saying they invented the left hook or the slap to the chest IMO.
@@Aevilbeast Goldberg was the first one both popularized and revolutionized the finisher through numerous Wrestler with different variations including Edge being the first one debut it in WWE on his debut, Rhyno in ECW and became a move from one Wrestler to next from Batista, Bobby Lashley, and Roman Reigns
The Rock Bottom has been used in wrestling since the 70's, mostly called the Ura-nage. It is one of the 40 throws of Judo.
I’m sure there’s lots of video ideas you guys have rattling around, but I had this idea yesterday: ranking every wrestler that every beat X from worst to best. Ranking them based on how much it did for their career, whether it was really worth it, etc (I was largely thinking about Hogan in the first place, but you could do it on basically any headliner from the attitude era)
That’s a good idea
Makes me wonder what the people's elbow is gonna be renamed to once someone actually tries to use the move.
The choke slam allegedly invented by Abraham Lincoln
07:20 TO BE FAIR; from what I remember reading baout that incident was that it was a rip by some other guys who knew that Gory invented it, telling Hassan that Eddie using it as normal move was undermining the credibility of the Camel Clutch as his Finisher.
Not going to mention how Austin took the stunner from Mikey Whipwreck, aka the whippersnapper? Kinda like how what happened to that wrestler’s theme took from what happened when, via Tony and Conrad? What even the abbreviations are close, poor shit mate.
Mickey took it from Johnny Ace, ne John Larenitis, who did it back in the 80s and called it the Ace Breaker.
@@jasonsabbath6996 Not the same move. and its Ace Crusher, as far as I know, Ace never had a move called the "Ace Breaker". He had the Ace Crusher (The Cutter), The Ace Crusher II(a legdrop bulldog), The Ace Cutter (a hangmans facebuster, ironically), and the Johnny Spike. (a DDT)
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Kenta gave Danielson permission to use the knee, and in exchange, Kenta uses yhe Lebell Lock.
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The safe bet on "where did x move come from?" is probably "some joshi in the 80's".
Joshi is Japanese women's wrestling
@@plannein "Joshi puroresu" is Japanese women's wrestling. "Joshi" by itself literally just means "girl". If you're gonna be pedantic, at least make sure you're right.
A great list!
Can you do a list of Wrestlers with a better signature move than their finisher move?
Spike Dudley's acid drop and the Dudley Boy's 3D are also versions of the RKO
Phil brooks really is a punk
0:08 there is video evidence that Andre also had the double-arm facebuster (i.e. the Pedigree) as one of his moves, except that he did not jump like HHH.
Col DeBeers used to do it as well, both without the arms trapped and with.
Video Game Fact about #10: The Sasori is the name of the submission move by the long-haired character from the Ricky Fighters (who was most probably modeled after the creator of the move) in the NES game Tag Team Wrestling.
The Stone Cold Stunner had been used for years simply called the Jaw Breaker. So wasn't a new move when he started using it. Just more popular a move.
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To quote a wise man
" Everyone is a theif the trick is to be a clever thief"
How the fuck you gonna spell thief wrong and right in the same sentence
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@@Mboone1994 I learn from my mistakes
The Stunner wasn't Stone Cold's either. Jimmy Garvin did the move first in WCW. It was called the 911.
Keith Lee's Ground Zero (or BBC) was originally done by Richard Slinger in Japan as the Chattanooga Choo Choo.
Dennis Condrey first did the Skull Crushing Finale, which was then used by Brian Christopher, and then by Chris Jericho before Miz did it.
Fair play to you about the Tomikaze. I thought Guido had done it first.
All reports say Mikey Whipwreck innovated the stunner, he called it the whippersnapper
Did Adam tried to say "la de a caballo"? Cause it was pure gold XD
Kevin Nash, apparently the power bomb was invented byLou Thesz, but first time I remember it was by the Jumping Bomb AngelsBilly Gunn, the hint should be that the Fame-asser used to be called the Rocker Dropper
I came up with a Powerbomb Lift-Chokeslam a couple years ago,Nia Jax stole it and was utilizing it during her Women's Tag Team Title run on Raw.🤣
The "Unprettier"? The "Kill Switch"? Damn. ALL the Attitude Era video games misnamed the move. I would've called it the Inverted Cross myself.
He forgot to mention that Disco Inferno used The Stunner in WCW as The Chart buster
HHH's Pedigree was originally done by and you will not believe this, Andre the Giant.
when finishers were for 1 wrestler only, no one used a DDT before Jake the snake, ever since, there's been over 100 variations, same as a piledriver, cutters ect. The unprettier was called the Impaler, in wwf attitude (the video game)
They even say that the DDT was a move used in Mexico for years before Roberts used it. Roberts just popularized it and gave it the name.
Anyone doing the Air Raid Crash owes thanks to Mariko Yoshida
Surprised to see no mention of Victoria’s Widow’s Peak or Velvet Sky’s Stunner? Victoria got that finishing move after Molly Holly seen someone do it on the independent scene and showed Victoria how to use it. The stunner had Velvet ask Stone Cold permission could she use it upon her return to Impact Wrestling with her new look.
One move I'd like to see today is the Cobra Clutch which Ted Debiase also used
Saying Crash Holly did the Styles Clash in 2002 as though that means he did it first is false, AJ actually used the move during a match in his WCW tag run in 1999 I believe it was, and then used it as his finisher from then on.
It's a bit surprising to me that wrestlers get upset when someone else uses a move they came up with. I get the idea of wanting to be the one known for inventing a move, but I personally think that coming up with a move creative enough that others want to use it would be far more flattering, considering that could mean that you made a move that could very well stand the test of time.
I believe they don't want it overexposed. so that people don't end up devaluing it to the status of an ordinary move.
Its called the Scorpion deathlock in the states. Call in sharpshooter in Canada.
Look, it's the coast-to-coast with a trash-can and the Van Damninator with a steel chair. Totally different.
Unpopular opinion, but I prefer the Unprettier over the Killswitch
When it comes to sharpshooter I've been arguing about that with people for years I never really knew who invented it I always thought it was a toss up between sting and Bret Hart
Weirder still is how the freebirds invented the stunner.
That Bret Hart fella looks a lot like the wrestler Bret the hitman Clark in wcw
Even Gory Guerrero invented "la de a caballo" it was made popular here in Mexico by El Santo
Don't forget Lio Rush's "The Come Up" version of the stunner where he used a jumping rope rebound version when he was the NXT Cruiserweight Champion.
There's a Vid of Lou Thesz doing a Cutter.
The Fiend took the Mandible Claw from Mick Foley who in turn took it from Dr Sam Sheppard . Sheppard was convicted of killing his wife but on appeal was found not guilty but was struck off from practicing medicine , psychology or psychiatry so he decided to wrestle for a while . When wrestling Sheppard came up with the Mandible Claw as a finisher .
Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't invent the cutter it was given to him by Mikey whipwreck when they were in ECW together and even Mikey whipwreck said he didn't invent it but it was gave to him
Johnny "Ace" invented the Cutter and by extension the Stunner. But it wasn't Whipwreck who gave Austin the move. Austin was first using the Million Dollar Dream (Cobra Clutch), they needed a new move once DiBiase left the WWE. Michael Hayes suggested the Stunner. After a few weeks of him just hitting it out of nowhere, they added the kick to the stomach.
@@TRivera13 Stone Cold Steve Austin was in ECW and Mikey whipwreck gave permission to Stone Cold to start using the cutter
@@daylenorrisakabamaboy1734 You could keep saying that, doesn't make it true. Austin has said many times that Michael Hayes suggested he use the move as Jimmy Garvin had used it way before Whipwreck. Whipwreck would do the move from different transitions, including the kick to the gut. Is it possible Austin got that from Whipwreck? Maybe. But he didn't need permission to use a move Whipwreck didn't even invent.
@@TRivera13 the only reason I say that Mikey whipwreck gave Stone Cold Steve Austin permission to do the cutter is because on one of Stone Cold videos he said that Mikey whipwreck gave him permission because Mikey whipwreck was doing the cutter at the time and nobody else was doing it in wrestling just like when Ric flair gave the Miz permission to do the figure for Ric flair didn't invent the figure for but he was doing it all those years it's like his signature move he gave it to the Miz heck I even say in my statement Mikey didn't invent the cutter and yes you are correct Michael Hayes suggested Stone Cold to change his finisher but he didn't tell him to start doing the cutter he asked him what other finishers does he do and Stone Cold mentioned he did the stunner in ECW that Mikey whipwreck let him do
@@daylenorrisakabamaboy1734 When Flair was wrestling, there was other wrestlers who used the Figure-Four as finishers (Buddy Landell, Greg Valentine). I never heard Austin mention anything about asking Whipwreck. But then Austin did respect him enough to put him over while he was in ECW.
Sure styles is more known for the elbow and the clash but do you also remember the spiral tap out of the inverted ddt or even the air raid crash as air styles as one half of air raid in wcw
After Christian broke from Edge, the unprettier was named the “I’m-prettier” for a minute
I think it's funny every move that's been done before is a "stolen" move. Mind you there have been permissions or even suggested by the ones who trained them and/or mentors.
"My knees are knackered after all those Moonsaults. I need a move that'll be easier on them if I want to continue my career. I KNOW! I'll twat my opponents with one of my knees! GENIUS!"
I might be alone with this but I hate that Kevin Owens is using the Stunner. I never liked it, I can tolerate it with Austin bc of the icon status. The popup powerbomb was one of my favourite finishers too
I agree that KO using the stunner is bad, but even the Pop up Power bomb usually took me out the match when he would do it to people bigger than himself.
I can’t lie, I love the name Coast to Coast much more then the Van-Terminator
I wish Rob would call it that but I get he wants to keep his moves HIS moves
They forgot Billy Kidman
Used Theunprettier and called it The Kid crusher
CM Punk is not a WWE star - he is All Elite.
Mikey Wipwreck invented the Stunner. It was the Whippersnapper.
You should do a video on all the different wrestler's finishers that Seth Rollins has turned into transition moves
should have included Hurricane and the Vertebreaker dude loves to say he invented it. but it was Kudo who did it first and it was known as the Kudo Driver
Colonel DeBeers innovated the "Styles Clash" but it was called the Pancake Piledriver and you just ignored DDP calling it the Diamond Clash
Didnt he call it "Welcome to the diamond mine"? Kinda a twisting gutwrench variant.
DeBeers also invented the pedigree, well him or Andre they started using them around the same time. DeBeers would lift them vertical wheras Andre wouldnt jump
They've been stealing finishers for years. Sleeper hold. Figure 4. Powerbomb. Moonsault. Powerslam. Big splash.
Now this is a real list
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The fact he called Tyler breeze a male model makes me think he'll be revealed as a maximus male model
SCSA Got the stunner from Mikey whipwreck called the whippersnapper
Any variation of the Stunner/Cutter comes from the "Ace Crusher". Invented by Johnny "Ace" Laurinaitis.
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You can't steal a wrestling move just like you can't fire an independent contractor