@@khaos298Fr! I myself have been listening to audiobooks at work in the last month I’ve listened to all of The game of thrones and Harry Potter books. It’s made work something to actually look forward to
6:00 a notable 4 eyed deity: Satori. Something else is that the number 4 四 is a homophone for 死ぬ(しぬ), shinu which means death. The number is unlucky to the point where the alternative 4 “yon” is used instead. You often can’t buy things in sets of 4 in Japan for the same reason. Very superstitious. What is interesting is when you add one more, the 5 yen (五円) piece is considered lucky on the other hand because it is a homophone with another word 御縁 (go-en) which means causal relationship or a LINK. There were five champion’s tunics, but when only 4 were in battle it resulted in death. They needed the missing Link to save Hyrule. Alright back to sleep. Some weird stuff pops out of my head when I sleep listening to your videos Mox!
No no no, the theory that the secret stones were extracted from the bargainers eyes is a really good theory, it also explains why the eyes suddenly appear on the surface of hyrule when their owner is in the underground, they fell from the sky where they had been kept, that makes a lot of sense. I already forgot what you were saying because the video was so full of things to remember but this last point you made reallt made sense, please make a shorter video on it!!
48:39 these roots are what supplies Ganondorf, notice you find him on a stump of it. When Link loses a heart, this makes Ganondorf that much stronger. All the underground roots point toward the castle. In botw, the calamity also had tentacle-like roots in the sanctum.
It wouldn't surprise me if this root system which now conducts gloom could have conducted light in high quantities before being corrupted. It's possible the depths used be much more well lit.
I'm really ecstatic about this whole theory video, not only because it's the crack-enduced-melatoin I need to be able to sleep, but because of how thorough is. The Japanese lore context made me ecstatic because it brough me back to why I started my interests into The Legend of Zelda Series. Ōkami, the game I was told is almost like TLoZ, has lore that's based off this theory. As Amaterasu's name was mentioned as long as Izanagi and Izanami, who are called Nagi and Nami, I was formally interested and the mentions of Susano, the descendant of Nagi in ōkami, and the sword that sealed the dreaded 8-headed serpent, Orochi, Tsukiyomi, I think it's spelled, had me over the moon. Two of my favorite games possibly having the same playstyle, the same lore, and the same layout, it was all a lot for me as I listened to this video while I was awake and finishing up a project. This was all so amazing to watch, keep up the good work, and never stop failing to make me happy that I have theories to listen to while I'm sleeping, studying, or just interested. ❤️❤️
I fell asleep about 15 minutes in. Going for a repeat tonight. Staying awake or falling asleep its a win cause its interesting to listen to a.d sleeping is the goal
1. You pointed out 2 different kinds of Zonai, one who represents peace and engineering and the other represents war and primitivism. Such a reference was present in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption at the planet Bryyo. A golden age occurred when the “Lords of Science” came together and constructed technological masterpieces that shared knowledge to races beyond the planet. However, this golden age would not last, for the “Primals” mourned their primitive traditions and developed a bitter resentment toward the masters of technology. This led to the all-out war that rendered Bryyo uninhabitable. All that remains are the ruins and the Primals who attack Samus on site while venturing deeper into the planet’s ruins. 2. Metroid Prime 3 features a setting called Skytown, Elysia. A deserted Chozo colony that was left behind. The colony is now inhabited by robots that not only share the knowledge of the planet’s recorded history, but continue to resume their work. Pointless now their masters are gone, but admirable to continue to function for the sole purpose they were built for. Sound familiar? 3. With references of religious history, regardless of any name you call God, divine intervention is no exception for Shinto followers and Buddhists despite the prejudice between each other. Two mighty typhoons occurred on the Mongol invasions of Japan. Mighty warships from Mongolia of the Yuan Dynasty sent by Kublai Khan to invade Japan, only to be thwarted by nature itself. 1274 and 1281 A.D., the Mongols attempted to invade mainland Japan and managed to pillage Tsushima, Iki, and Hakata-ku. Both invasion attempts failed by a divine influence. The Japanese came to know it as “kamikaze” or “divine wind.” It was believed that if a naval invasion is built in the size the likes of which the world has never seen, a divine intervention is plausible. However, when the Second World War raged on, the belief was dismissed when on June 6, 1944, the Allied armada crossed the English Channel to Normandy. The invasion force was larger than the Mongol invasions, and even bigger than Normandy was in Okinawa, and much bigger, the invasion force of mainland Japan later in 1945 just before the war’s end. In Tears of the Kingdom, the Imprisoning War broke out. The tribes banded together, even the Gerudo who claimed responsibility for the birth of the Demon King and vowed to make amends to right their wrongs. The Kingdom of Hyrule believed that no matter whatever form Ganon assumes, he would be defeated and sealed away. Only… the Great Calamity occurred and wiped out the kingdom. Even when sealed, the damage was already done. Even when the Calamity was defeated by Link and Zelda, Ganondorf returned as a mummified corpse and unleashed chaos upon the land. Tears of the Kingdom could also imply Japan’s history of religion, prejudice, prophecies, and misinterpretations as the times, both ancient and modern, have come and gone. Whether the past is not what it seems or the future is not what some would’ve envisioned it. Divine influences can shape history, not just man.
(ToTk spoilers) i'm living for these theories, i've been obsessed with the bargainers statues since i stumbled across them. I'm still learning about the older games, but my personal working theory is they're possibly a more "neutral" or at least "less evil" deity that is a split from Hylia. LoZ loves doing things in threes (makes sense - triforce, three goddesses, three dragons, etc), and if Hylia is "good" and the horned statue is "evil", then the Bargainers could be a bit of both, which ends up kinda balancing it out into an almost "true neutral" entity. The double faces seen on them could be simply reflecting this. It hurts Link when the Horned Statue takes/gives him stamina or hearts, and it seems almost gleeful to have played a trick on him and has absolutely no remorse for anything it's done; there's absolutely no question in my mind that its supposed to be genuinely evil. Hylia glows and verbally blesses Link while giving him whichever upgrade he asks for, and the Bargainer just simply offers it as a reward for doing what was asked. The Bargainers statement of Poes not being good or evil also makes me wonder if its supposed to almost represent a god of death - neither good nor evil, just a part of life that happens that causes the creation of a death god to carry the souls into the afterlife. But I'm pretty sure it'd be called something different in Japanese if it was supposed to be a death god, which is just one of many holes in my theory lol One of the things that *really* puzzles me about them is that they seem to be one of the "new" things that pops up after the Upheaval - I don't remember even seeing a hint of the Bargainer bit above ground in BoTW. If the Bargainer *is* a result of Zelda's change, what about the Draconification changed her essence as a deity to suddenly require a new deity to show up? Specifically a deity who's *whole job* seems to be escorting souls into the afterlife? Was part of Hylia's job to guide souls to the afterlife? Was that part of herself that Zelda had to give up? And if any of this is plausible, then who was the wizard who plucked out its eyes? Were they Zonai or Hylian or the mysterious new race alluded to in the Depths? What if the wizard *was* a part of the mysterious race and what he did contributed to all of them being wiped out? Did the Bargainer Statue under the Mother Goddess statue cause her to fall? Did the Statues somehow coordinate to make the Mother Goddess statue fall so they could be heard again? Also had NEVER thought of the canyon being in the shape of a dragon and now I can't unsee it. These games are incredible
def God of Death. The JP name is Majin Zao (Demon Statue) Hylia's plan was to reincarnate~ 彼を完全に滅するため女神ハイリアは 2つの策を講じました. So the Goddess Hylia prepared two plans to fully eradicate them. 1つは選ばれし者を導く為にあなたが背負った剣に宿る精霊ファイを創造すること. One was to create the spirit Fi, which resides in the blade you’re carrying, to guide her chosen one. そしてもう1つは… ハイリア自身が神の体を捨て去り 自らの魂を人間に転生させること. And the other… Hylia herself would abandon her divine body, and her soul would be reincarnated as a human. そう… 終焉の者を消滅させる為 ハイリアは古代神の遺産を使おうと決意したのです. Yes… Hylia decided to use the inheritance of the ancient gods to annihilate Demise. 神が創りもの でありながら 神の一族が使うこと叶わぬ 万能の力 トライフース… Despite being a creation of the gods, it was impossible for the almighty power of the Triforce to be used by the god’s clan. Zelda, Skyward Sword (before blessing the 'True Master Sword) Lorulean Translation
This is some Elden Ring stuff, but what if the the concept of death was carried within the mortal Hylia and what was allowing her to resurrect after death over and over again. But now that Hylia is an immortal dragon there is no longer room for death within that being and thus it had to find a new host, a new deity, to dwell inside.
not sure if its entirely relevant but the gloom could be related to the medieval concept of melancholia or "dark, black bile", basically what they thought depression used to be but rather characterised it as some sort of black liquid which gave the victim unexplainable fear and weighed heavily on their souls. in that sense the gloom could be a possible physical manifestation of peoples fear? which would also make sense with its connection to ganondorf and demise
Rephrasing one of my last replies from one of the previous videos, it turns out I've made a much bigger and more *shocking* discovery than what I previously realized. Not just the fates of the leviathans, but further beyond and in a much deeper rabbit hole... I'll fill you in on some more when you upload something that brings up the subject matter. It's a rabbit hole so deep that even (Smash Ultimate) Zelda's dress poofs like a parachute slowing her descent within it.
Zelda has always drawn inspiration from religions across history. There’s evidence of Buddhism, And Christianity. People draw from all sorts of real life experiences and cultures to create all forms of art. Like this series! Wonderfully made. (Also, the tree of life symbol looks to be an alchemy symbol. They may have ties?)
came to see if anyone else said this, it’s usually associated with alchemy in a lot of pop culture media. it’s on Ed’s gate of truth in Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood as well, which is kinda funnt because that’s also a story about a young man with an interesting right arm haha
I love falling asleep to your videos though it hard to sleep when they are so amazing. I really love zelda lore. As for bargainer statue kinda makes me wonder if u remember in twilight princess you had that guy turn gold and the only way to save them is to give them poes. Maybe that what the bargainer statue are doing you give them enough poes and they wont be statues anymore.
OKAY. first of all, amazing connection of the bargainer with the sheikah. AMAZING theory. i think that’s entirely plausible but here’s a little something i’d like to add. seeing an image of the bargainer, i hadn’t noticed how much his eyes looked like the sheikah eye symbol, down to the color & everything. i also noticed how it was upside down. what group of people use an eye symbol that is upside down as a way to identify themselves? the yiga
Totally stumbled across your channel completely at random, but I'm very happy I did! Super detailed and insightful yet thought provoking and relaxing. Your voice is calming and although I can totally see people listening to this while drifting off to sleep, I find myself watching at all hours. Liked and subbed!
It is said that the eyes are the window to the soul [Edit]- I feel like the mother goddess statue is a replica, it is too small, doesn't have the offering chamber for the knight cerimony, and it doesn't have the room inside of it Btw, I'm probably going to edit this alot [Edit2]- The paint on the barbarian set is similar to the paint on silver and gold enemies [Edit3]- Maybe the shaking from the upheaval could of toppled the goddess statue, btw the only large goddess statue that doesn't say about the mother goddess statue (still find that an odd name) is the one in the temple(s) of time The odd looking status in the depths could be zonai (we only see two alive and there both directly related) or it could be the mogma [Edit4]- Some plants can produce energy without sunlight, though not much energy. We do know that creatures such as gorons and frox can eat sertain rocks
Something that's been nagging me alot, were the dragons hominoid goddesses before being dragons? Like did the goddesses eat tears too or is dragon form something they can just do? before the goddesses played an active part in the world and now they just passively view it from above as far as I can tell, all but Zelda, who was keeping the sky and depths locked until the right time. So why did they become dragons?
@@MoxieWatts exactly, where are the goddesses when Zelda goes back in time? I can't remember if we see them in any of the cutscenes. If we do see the dragons in the cutscenes where Zelda is back in time that'd mean that they were dragons, turned huminoid, then back to dragons for breath and tears? Because the rest of the series is between Zeldas time travel point and breath/tears. So glad you saw this lol
To me it's very obvious that the dragons were Zonai, Mineru knows of draconification, and their traits ressemble zonai far too much to be a coincidence
The only thing that still bugs me is the great Plateau and it's temple of time would make more sense where the lost woods & vice versa especially in the OoT era which would be closer to the past Zelda ends up in
What I'm curious about concerning the Barbarian armour being found in the Faron Zonai ruins in BotW and the faron Zonai ruins are said to be older than many other zonai ruins, I wonder if perhaps the ancient Hero's Aspect was a zonai who lived within ancient faron and the barbarian armour possibly being his armour before being given zonai armour
Me being the idiot I am I went around and threw all 4 of them into the casms and then realized they re spawn on the surface when your too far from them
Let's have some fun. Consider the possibility that the statues in the depths aren't originally the bargainer. The two faced one looks like a prehistoric Boko when looked from the other side. What if there was a civilization living in the depths, and those statues are their Kamisama. A civilization of blins. This could be an origin story for Dorf's army. What if Zelda's plan to put the islands in the sky required the Zonai to delve deep in the depths to mine the Zonaite. War for resources, enslavement, death. With death the number of poes multiplied, and after them came the bargainer. A deity that has shown the ability to take over other deities' statues. And lastly, what are the motives of the bargainer? A being that considers good and evil irrelevant has a good chance of having nefarious motives, in our worldly reference frame. Is it helping the poes, or does it need them for something else? Oh, and that works nice with the fact bokoblins are mining the Zonaite, but we don't see them using it for anything.
As a jewish myself, I personally find it very flattering and loving a lot when japanese culture takes from my traditions. And I would love to keep pushing people into enjoying it and using it as inspiration in the future. Cultural appropriation is (mainly for me) degrading tradition and using it for personal use as a way to simplify or reinterpret the tradition to fit a narrative of said tradition. Here, and in many other japanese creations I've seen, it's rarely used as a way to evilize jews or the traditions. Most of them are things they found interesting and fit the narrative of their stories, not to fit their own vision of the narrative in jewish story or history. And in some cases, it's mainly out of idiocy because they found it cool and just use it without adding depth to it (it was in a few mangas) and in rare cases, there is actual ill intention behind the use (same, in some mangas, I've seen it) In the case of Nintendo, it's mainly to fit their narrative of the game and not to evilize or transform the representation of jewish people and traditions. So I'd rather let them do it and be happy when I discover they actually added those to the game than ask for them to erase it. This is also part of representation and sharing love of similar topics. people, do try to avoid taking things personally as an attack or with ill intention when it can be ignorance or even more simple than that. Not everyone has control over everything they do and they say. Sometimes, it's just mistakes.
I haven't dug through the comments of these videos, but am I the only one noticing the resemblance of the unknown depths statues to frogs? Does this have any connection to the froggy armor?
1:37:19 i swear i think i recognize that voice from somewhere else. To me it sounds like the guy from another youtube channel that does zelda theories, Jordan aka MaskedNintendoBandit aka BanditPlays. I could be very wrong in my assumption, but just figured id point it out and ask lol i looked in the description and didnt see anything. Great video also, really makes ya think, thank you for that lol.
(i love when majora’s mask is mentioned omg) at the mention of majora’s mask & giants i thought: some bargainer statues are absolutely colossal. are they supposed to be a type of call back to the giants like the ones in majora’s mask? 👀
I hate to be that person, but where did you get the skybox for the Rauru's Blessing shrines used in the intro? Looking for something like that for editing purposes
Nintendo wasn't aware of the Muslim chanting. When they learned about it they took it out. Nintendo has "cultural appropriation" in nearly every game in the series. Taking influence from real life isn't appropriation and is used in tons of games
Something about the eyes all over TotK screams 'Vaati' all over, but as far as I know there's not even a single reference to the sorcerer... ...And the so called 'Bargainer' wears a hood wich is, in my opinion, really similar to the caps created by the Minish (Although you can also guess that the Sheikah Sanctuaries have a similar form for some reason but oh well)🤔
I wish we as a Zelda community could stop spreading the false "fact" that Zelda is the "reincarnation of Hylia". That only applies to Skyward Sword Zelda; every other Zelda only has the *blood* of the goddess.
Tell me you did not really try and apply “cultural appropriation” to a fictional video game. The concept of cultural appropriation is so incredibly stupid; it’s absurd that it’s even taken seriously in today’s society. It is a side effect of teaching everyone that they’re a victim
@@MoxieWatts ohh it didnt say that it was part of your ZLTST series in the title so i thought it was a reupload, i thought maybe nintendo pulled a "copyright claim no jutsu" or something. still watched it though. titty chicken lady never misses
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We sleeping good tonight boys.
Nah, more like lore to work to so we don't have to listen to the annoying co-workers.
Love these
@@khaos298Fr! I myself have been listening to audiobooks at work in the last month I’ve listened to all of The game of thrones and Harry Potter books. It’s made work something to actually look forward to
6:00 a notable 4 eyed deity: Satori. Something else is that the number 4 四 is a homophone for 死ぬ(しぬ), shinu which means death. The number is unlucky to the point where the alternative 4 “yon” is used instead. You often can’t buy things in sets of 4 in Japan for the same reason. Very superstitious. What is interesting is when you add one more, the 5 yen (五円) piece is considered lucky on the other hand because it is a homophone with another word 御縁 (go-en) which means causal relationship or a LINK. There were five champion’s tunics, but when only 4 were in battle it resulted in death. They needed the missing Link to save Hyrule. Alright back to sleep. Some weird stuff pops out of my head when I sleep listening to your videos Mox!
OH MAN oh man this is cool XDDDD
oh shit that's why there are two ways to say 4? They didn't explain that in Japanese class!
Even tho I know your previous vids and therefore heard many points already, I still like this series.
The mood is very nice and tranquil.
Glad you like them!
No no no, the theory that the secret stones were extracted from the bargainers eyes is a really good theory, it also explains why the eyes suddenly appear on the surface of hyrule when their owner is in the underground, they fell from the sky where they had been kept, that makes a lot of sense. I already forgot what you were saying because the video was so full of things to remember but this last point you made reallt made sense, please make a shorter video on it!!
thank you! i put so much thought in and im still looking for more evidence.
48:39 these roots are what supplies Ganondorf, notice you find him on a stump of it. When Link loses a heart, this makes Ganondorf that much stronger. All the underground roots point toward the castle. In botw, the calamity also had tentacle-like roots in the sanctum.
OH THATS SUCH A GOOD IDEA!!!
you should be asleep chris
@@MoxieWatts 🥹 shucks mox
@@razorbackroar 😂 haven’t slept since 5.12.23
It wouldn't surprise me if this root system which now conducts gloom could have conducted light in high quantities before being corrupted. It's possible the depths used be much more well lit.
I'm really ecstatic about this whole theory video, not only because it's the crack-enduced-melatoin I need to be able to sleep, but because of how thorough is.
The Japanese lore context made me ecstatic because it brough me back to why I started my interests into The Legend of Zelda Series.
Ōkami, the game I was told is almost like TLoZ, has lore that's based off this theory. As Amaterasu's name was mentioned as long as Izanagi and Izanami, who are called Nagi and Nami, I was formally interested and the mentions of Susano, the descendant of Nagi in ōkami, and the sword that sealed the dreaded 8-headed serpent, Orochi, Tsukiyomi, I think it's spelled, had me over the moon.
Two of my favorite games possibly having the same playstyle, the same lore, and the same layout, it was all a lot for me as I listened to this video while I was awake and finishing up a project.
This was all so amazing to watch, keep up the good work, and never stop failing to make me happy that I have theories to listen to while I'm sleeping, studying, or just interested. ❤️❤️
you got it ❤
These videos are awesome Moxie! They are great to fall asleep too.
tysm i hope they keep u asleep
I fell asleep about 15 minutes in. Going for a repeat tonight. Staying awake or falling asleep its a win cause its interesting to listen to a.d sleeping is the goal
1. You pointed out 2 different kinds of Zonai, one who represents peace and engineering and the other represents war and primitivism. Such a reference was present in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption at the planet Bryyo. A golden age occurred when the “Lords of Science” came together and constructed technological masterpieces that shared knowledge to races beyond the planet. However, this golden age would not last, for the “Primals” mourned their primitive traditions and developed a bitter resentment toward the masters of technology. This led to the all-out war that rendered Bryyo uninhabitable. All that remains are the ruins and the Primals who attack Samus on site while venturing deeper into the planet’s ruins.
2. Metroid Prime 3 features a setting called Skytown, Elysia. A deserted Chozo colony that was left behind. The colony is now inhabited by robots that not only share the knowledge of the planet’s recorded history, but continue to resume their work. Pointless now their masters are gone, but admirable to continue to function for the sole purpose they were built for. Sound familiar?
3. With references of religious history, regardless of any name you call God, divine intervention is no exception for Shinto followers and Buddhists despite the prejudice between each other. Two mighty typhoons occurred on the Mongol invasions of Japan. Mighty warships from Mongolia of the Yuan Dynasty sent by Kublai Khan to invade Japan, only to be thwarted by nature itself. 1274 and 1281 A.D., the Mongols attempted to invade mainland Japan and managed to pillage Tsushima, Iki, and Hakata-ku. Both invasion attempts failed by a divine influence. The Japanese came to know it as “kamikaze” or “divine wind.” It was believed that if a naval invasion is built in the size the likes of which the world has never seen, a divine intervention is plausible. However, when the Second World War raged on, the belief was dismissed when on June 6, 1944, the Allied armada crossed the English Channel to Normandy. The invasion force was larger than the Mongol invasions, and even bigger than Normandy was in Okinawa, and much bigger, the invasion force of mainland Japan later in 1945 just before the war’s end.
In Tears of the Kingdom, the Imprisoning War broke out. The tribes banded together, even the Gerudo who claimed responsibility for the birth of the Demon King and vowed to make amends to right their wrongs. The Kingdom of Hyrule believed that no matter whatever form Ganon assumes, he would be defeated and sealed away. Only… the Great Calamity occurred and wiped out the kingdom. Even when sealed, the damage was already done. Even when the Calamity was defeated by Link and Zelda, Ganondorf returned as a mummified corpse and unleashed chaos upon the land.
Tears of the Kingdom could also imply Japan’s history of religion, prejudice, prophecies, and misinterpretations as the times, both ancient and modern, have come and gone. Whether the past is not what it seems or the future is not what some would’ve envisioned it. Divine influences can shape history, not just man.
Man i love all these points...i must now ponder the orb
(ToTk spoilers)
i'm living for these theories, i've been obsessed with the bargainers statues since i stumbled across them. I'm still learning about the older games, but my personal working theory is they're possibly a more "neutral" or at least "less evil" deity that is a split from Hylia. LoZ loves doing things in threes (makes sense - triforce, three goddesses, three dragons, etc), and if Hylia is "good" and the horned statue is "evil", then the Bargainers could be a bit of both, which ends up kinda balancing it out into an almost "true neutral" entity.
The double faces seen on them could be simply reflecting this. It hurts Link when the Horned Statue takes/gives him stamina or hearts, and it seems almost gleeful to have played a trick on him and has absolutely no remorse for anything it's done; there's absolutely no question in my mind that its supposed to be genuinely evil. Hylia glows and verbally blesses Link while giving him whichever upgrade he asks for, and the Bargainer just simply offers it as a reward for doing what was asked. The Bargainers statement of Poes not being good or evil also makes me wonder if its supposed to almost represent a god of death - neither good nor evil, just a part of life that happens that causes the creation of a death god to carry the souls into the afterlife. But I'm pretty sure it'd be called something different in Japanese if it was supposed to be a death god, which is just one of many holes in my theory lol
One of the things that *really* puzzles me about them is that they seem to be one of the "new" things that pops up after the Upheaval - I don't remember even seeing a hint of the Bargainer bit above ground in BoTW. If the Bargainer *is* a result of Zelda's change, what about the Draconification changed her essence as a deity to suddenly require a new deity to show up? Specifically a deity who's *whole job* seems to be escorting souls into the afterlife? Was part of Hylia's job to guide souls to the afterlife? Was that part of herself that Zelda had to give up? And if any of this is plausible, then who was the wizard who plucked out its eyes? Were they Zonai or Hylian or the mysterious new race alluded to in the Depths? What if the wizard *was* a part of the mysterious race and what he did contributed to all of them being wiped out? Did the Bargainer Statue under the Mother Goddess statue cause her to fall? Did the Statues somehow coordinate to make the Mother Goddess statue fall so they could be heard again?
Also had NEVER thought of the canyon being in the shape of a dragon and now I can't unsee it. These games are incredible
def God of Death. The JP name is Majin Zao (Demon Statue)
Hylia's plan was to reincarnate~
彼を完全に滅するため女神ハイリアは 2つの策を講じました.
So the Goddess Hylia prepared two plans to fully eradicate them.
1つは選ばれし者を導く為にあなたが背負った剣に宿る精霊ファイを創造すること.
One was to create the spirit Fi, which resides in the blade you’re carrying, to guide her chosen one.
そしてもう1つは… ハイリア自身が神の体を捨て去り 自らの魂を人間に転生させること.
And the other… Hylia herself would abandon her divine body, and her soul would be reincarnated as a human.
そう… 終焉の者を消滅させる為 ハイリアは古代神の遺産を使おうと決意したのです.
Yes… Hylia decided to use the inheritance of the ancient gods to annihilate Demise.
神が創りもの でありながら 神の一族が使うこと叶わぬ 万能の力 トライフース…
Despite being a creation of the gods, it was impossible for the almighty power of the Triforce to be used by the god’s clan.
Zelda, Skyward Sword (before blessing the 'True Master Sword) Lorulean Translation
She can't reincarnate if there's death
This is some Elden Ring stuff, but what if the the concept of death was carried within the mortal Hylia and what was allowing her to resurrect after death over and over again. But now that Hylia is an immortal dragon there is no longer room for death within that being and thus it had to find a new host, a new deity, to dwell inside.
not sure if its entirely relevant but the gloom could be related to the medieval concept of melancholia or "dark, black bile", basically what they thought depression used to be but rather characterised it as some sort of black liquid which gave the victim unexplainable fear and weighed heavily on their souls. in that sense the gloom could be a possible physical manifestation of peoples fear? which would also make sense with its connection to ganondorf and demise
Moxie Zelda videos are elite level content
tysm
42:15 I’m gonna say wibbley wobbliness instead of flexible
i love that part too
Rephrasing one of my last replies from one of the previous videos, it turns out I've made a much bigger and more *shocking* discovery than what I previously realized. Not just the fates of the leviathans, but further beyond and in a much deeper rabbit hole... I'll fill you in on some more when you upload something that brings up the subject matter.
It's a rabbit hole so deep that even (Smash Ultimate) Zelda's dress poofs like a parachute slowing her descent within it.
MANNN Tom just message me on discord MoxieWatts
I don’t have discord… but I can still make my points clear here as always.
ah a new zelda lore video to watch every night for weeks on end
About to dream myself into TOTK goodnight. Thx moxie
Zelda has always drawn inspiration from religions across history. There’s evidence of Buddhism, And Christianity. People draw from all sorts of real life experiences and cultures to create all forms of art. Like this series! Wonderfully made. (Also, the tree of life symbol looks to be an alchemy symbol. They may have ties?)
they do!
came to see if anyone else said this, it’s usually associated with alchemy in a lot of pop culture media. it’s on Ed’s gate of truth in Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood as well, which is kinda funnt because that’s also a story about a young man with an interesting right arm haha
I love falling asleep to your videos though it hard to sleep when they are so amazing. I really love zelda lore. As for bargainer statue kinda makes me wonder if u remember in twilight princess you had that guy turn gold and the only way to save them is to give them poes. Maybe that what the bargainer statue are doing you give them enough poes and they wont be statues anymore.
HMMMMMM.... good point and something to definitely consider. I need to dig into all the poe lore from oot, the 2D's and tp
I was watching something on twilight princess and that hit me. But poe lore video would be amazing
So many good questions, loved listening ❤
Finally finished it lmao i grinded way to hard
Strange to me that there were no silver in ganon's army to me
Right?? Master mode confirmed when??
ALSO CONGRATS!!! now wwe can finally chat!
@@MoxieWatts yeah haha, unfortunately i fell asleep 🥁 🥁 (symbol emoji)
OKAY. first of all, amazing connection of the bargainer with the sheikah. AMAZING theory. i think that’s entirely plausible but here’s a little something i’d like to add. seeing an image of the bargainer, i hadn’t noticed how much his eyes looked like the sheikah eye symbol, down to the color & everything. i also noticed how it was upside down. what group of people use an eye symbol that is upside down as a way to identify themselves? the yiga
Totally stumbled across your channel completely at random, but I'm very happy I did! Super detailed and insightful yet thought provoking and relaxing. Your voice is calming and although I can totally see people listening to this while drifting off to sleep, I find myself watching at all hours. Liked and subbed!
Thanks so much homie! the compliments mean a lot.
Ahh! Going to bed early tonight!
It is said that the eyes are the window to the soul
[Edit]- I feel like the mother goddess statue is a replica, it is too small, doesn't have the offering chamber for the knight cerimony, and it doesn't have the room inside of it
Btw, I'm probably going to edit this alot
[Edit2]- The paint on the barbarian set is similar to the paint on silver and gold enemies
[Edit3]- Maybe the shaking from the upheaval could of toppled the goddess statue, btw the only large goddess statue that doesn't say about the mother goddess statue (still find that an odd name) is the one in the temple(s) of time
The odd looking status in the depths could be zonai (we only see two alive and there both directly related) or it could be the mogma
[Edit4]- Some plants can produce energy without sunlight, though not much energy. We do know that creatures such as gorons and frox can eat sertain rocks
IDK man bc she does give you the goddess sword
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Anyone else thing the horriblins look like mogmas? Like how salt water zoras are monsters but fresh water arent
Oh man I never thought about that until. thats so sad and horrible. big if true.
lowkey you got me BUGGIN OUT RN.
@@MoxieWatts bug out high-key dude I love it
i sleep to your videos every night
and i thank you so much for that support homie
Moxie, you capture my heart and my eyelids with your voice.❤❤😴😴
Something that's been nagging me alot, were the dragons hominoid goddesses before being dragons? Like did the goddesses eat tears too or is dragon form something they can just do? before the goddesses played an active part in the world and now they just passively view it from above as far as I can tell, all but Zelda, who was keeping the sky and depths locked until the right time. So why did they become dragons?
Dude lokey in the cutscene from Ocarina of time of the Goddesses they do be humanoid....during the whole "creation thing"
@@MoxieWatts exactly, where are the goddesses when Zelda goes back in time? I can't remember if we see them in any of the cutscenes. If we do see the dragons in the cutscenes where Zelda is back in time that'd mean that they were dragons, turned huminoid, then back to dragons for breath and tears? Because the rest of the series is between Zeldas time travel point and breath/tears. So glad you saw this lol
To me it's very obvious that the dragons were Zonai, Mineru knows of draconification, and their traits ressemble zonai far too much to be a coincidence
man ive been avoiding these videos because i thought they were like asmr or something
lol no
The only thing that still bugs me is the great Plateau and it's temple of time would make more sense where the lost woods & vice versa especially in the OoT era which would be closer to the past Zelda ends up in
What I'm curious about concerning the Barbarian armour being found in the Faron Zonai ruins in BotW and the faron Zonai ruins are said to be older than many other zonai ruins, I wonder if perhaps the ancient Hero's Aspect was a zonai who lived within ancient faron and the barbarian armour possibly being his armour before being given zonai armour
You’ve earned my sub, im sleepin good tonight for sure
These videos probably have an insane retention rate
Me being the idiot I am I went around and threw all 4 of them into the casms and then realized they re spawn on the surface when your too far from them
I love these so much thank you for making such amazing videos :)
Let's have some fun. Consider the possibility that the statues in the depths aren't originally the bargainer. The two faced one looks like a prehistoric Boko when looked from the other side.
What if there was a civilization living in the depths, and those statues are their Kamisama. A civilization of blins. This could be an origin story for Dorf's army.
What if Zelda's plan to put the islands in the sky required the Zonai to delve deep in the depths to mine the Zonaite.
War for resources, enslavement, death. With death the number of poes multiplied, and after them came the bargainer. A deity that has shown the ability to take over other deities' statues.
And lastly, what are the motives of the bargainer? A being that considers good and evil irrelevant has a good chance of having nefarious motives, in our worldly reference frame. Is it helping the poes, or does it need them for something else?
Oh, and that works nice with the fact bokoblins are mining the Zonaite, but we don't see them using it for anything.
this is good because theres actually evidence of this in the earth temple from skyward sword.
excellent points here
I love these so much
yessss got my partner addicted to your videos too with this one ☺️
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Yay!! Love these!!
Wake up babe, its time to sleep.
As a jewish myself, I personally find it very flattering and loving a lot when japanese culture takes from my traditions. And I would love to keep pushing people into enjoying it and using it as inspiration in the future. Cultural appropriation is (mainly for me) degrading tradition and using it for personal use as a way to simplify or reinterpret the tradition to fit a narrative of said tradition.
Here, and in many other japanese creations I've seen, it's rarely used as a way to evilize jews or the traditions. Most of them are things they found interesting and fit the narrative of their stories, not to fit their own vision of the narrative in jewish story or history.
And in some cases, it's mainly out of idiocy because they found it cool and just use it without adding depth to it (it was in a few mangas) and in rare cases, there is actual ill intention behind the use (same, in some mangas, I've seen it)
In the case of Nintendo, it's mainly to fit their narrative of the game and not to evilize or transform the representation of jewish people and traditions. So I'd rather let them do it and be happy when I discover they actually added those to the game than ask for them to erase it.
This is also part of representation and sharing love of similar topics. people, do try to avoid taking things personally as an attack or with ill intention when it can be ignorance or even more simple than that. Not everyone has control over everything they do and they say. Sometimes, it's just mistakes.
Axlebeans on da train listening to this and I approve
I haven't dug through the comments of these videos, but am I the only one noticing the resemblance of the unknown depths statues to frogs? Does this have any connection to the froggy armor?
I mean perhaps right!? Maybe the gloom be corrupting them.
1:37:19 i swear i think i recognize that voice from somewhere else. To me it sounds like the guy from another youtube channel that does zelda theories, Jordan aka MaskedNintendoBandit aka BanditPlays. I could be very wrong in my assumption, but just figured id point it out and ask lol i looked in the description and didnt see anything. Great video also, really makes ya think, thank you for that lol.
(i love when majora’s mask is mentioned omg) at the mention of majora’s mask & giants i thought: some bargainer statues are absolutely colossal. are they supposed to be a type of call back to the giants like the ones in majora’s mask? 👀
FINALLY it's been three MONTHS since I slept last
congrats on making it to the other side.
Omg, it worked. I was out like a light 😴
Wonderful!
Is that Tiptoe the Tank?!?!❤❤❤
yes its mommy hylia
I hate to be that person, but where did you get the skybox for the Rauru's Blessing shrines used in the intro? Looking for something like that for editing purposes
I climbed on the side of the shrine, turned my camera around, and used pro mode
not everything is a mod
@@MoxieWatts I... can't believe I never thought of that 🫠 Thank you so much!
Nintendo wasn't aware of the Muslim chanting. When they learned about it they took it out. Nintendo has "cultural appropriation" in nearly every game in the series. Taking influence from real life isn't appropriation and is used in tons of games
I sleep to this every night
Wait wait wait! I missed this the first time but rewatching, Moxxie are you a member of the tribe 🥺!?
Awesome!
Thank you! Cheers!
In BotW Majora's Mask can be obtained with the Master Trials DLC, the amibo isn't needed.
put it in an 8-hour loop that doesn't include intros or outros, and I'll pay. lol
I had to pause and finish the game first 😂
Second try at listening the complete video!...
Something about the eyes all over TotK screams 'Vaati' all over, but as far as I know there's not even a single reference to the sorcerer...
...And the so called 'Bargainer' wears a hood wich is, in my opinion, really similar to the caps created by the Minish (Although you can also guess that the Sheikah Sanctuaries have a similar form for some reason but oh well)🤔
And the magic rods talk about a wizard who, "Awoke latent power in gems"
okay whats the song that plays at 19:25 ?
Is this a reupload?
all zelda lore to sleep to is reuploaded compilations of previous theories
Hey, what's with the emphasis on the "you" and "me" at 3:31? Is that intentional or just random?
16:56
Yeah I thought real long and hard about that one 😂
The goddess is possessed by the bargainer
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yasssss
does anyone have a link to the rito analysis?
docs.google.com/document/d/1FYeFT4TGkR2BAfvKno51uxiSwXr7KBU2pPrqKFVmnLg/edit?usp=sharing
These are translations I paid for in Fiverr
Lorulean Historian did a separate translation but sadly I do not have access to this document.
Well I haven't finished the game soooooooo..... insomnia I guess
OH NOOOOES ;-;
Majors spoilers for which game? This is titled Zelda not any specific game 😊
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I wish we as a Zelda community could stop spreading the false "fact" that Zelda is the "reincarnation of Hylia". That only applies to Skyward Sword Zelda; every other Zelda only has the *blood* of the goddess.
Note to self. Left off here 34:59
Tell me you did not really try and apply “cultural appropriation” to a fictional video game. The concept of cultural appropriation is so incredibly stupid; it’s absurd that it’s even taken seriously in today’s society. It is a side effect of teaching everyone that they’re a victim
It was brought to my attention by people who are actually Jewish and did take offense to it.
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Reupload?
i was about to ask the same question
i think this is a compilation of a couple videos
the zelda lore to sleep to is always a compilation of past heavy speculation videos.
@@MoxieWatts ohh it didnt say that it was part of your ZLTST series in the title so i thought it was a reupload, i thought maybe nintendo pulled a "copyright claim no jutsu" or something. still watched it though. titty chicken lady never misses