Quick Question for everyone: If I was to do a season in NR2003, would folks want a full race unedited, or maybe cut out chunks under caution/lapping by myself?
I’m probably alone in this but I vote leaving the entire race in minus maybe the cautions if you did cut stuff out. A more viewer friendly approach would probably be to cut out the laps by yourself. I’ll watch either way!
I was thinking that and Ontario myself...Would've been sick to have had Indycar race there, Indy, Michigan, and Pocono, as a Quadruple Crown sort of deal...
Riverside was awesome to watch, completely open terrain. After the last race a mall was built where the southern portion of the track was located and houses on the north side. Apparently some admin. buildings still remain too.
@@douglasdixon524 I stayed in the Ayres hotel there back in 2018, it’s located where turn 3 used to be. There’s a Winco across the street from it and a ton of fast food joints all over, the area is super sketch at night. Sad to know that’s it hallowed racing ground and so many greats raced there at one time and a few lost there lives.
14 years between Riverside closing and Nascar 2003 being released, 17 years between Nascar 2003 being released and this mod being released. That is crazy.
I went to my first F1 race at Long Beach in 1978. Don't know why we didn't go sooner, but I saw my first CART race at Riverside in 1980. For the next few years my dad and I would say that we'd want to go to Long Beach to see the cars, but then we'd see CART and IMSA at Riverside for the circuit. I've still never been to any track that had better general admission sightlines and access to them. You were so close. I'll never forget the first time I saw those Indycars come through turn 5 for the first time. Insane. Little I've seen has felt that fast since.
The track creator(s) did an amazing job on this circuit. Though two racing line issues stood out to me: on corner exit for the slow first gear right hander after the esses, the AI loses a lot of speed by not using the full width of the track; same issue on the left hander onto the back straight. Would love to see em go a bit wider to make passing through those areas a bit tougher. Great vid as always, GPLaps! Your passion for realistic racing, and appreciation of older eras is infectious.
I grew up going to this track as a kid. Thank you for this it brought back a lot of memories. Granted it is digital but I remember these races vividly.
12:20 I always figured I only thought the older cars were more memorable & stood out more cuz "I was being nostalgic" but I'm glad to hear others think the same thing. I think the sleekness & smoothness of newer cars may contribute but also the newer schemes seem to have too many paint lines going in too many different directions. To me the new schemes look messy & disorganized with lines going every which way. nascar is dead to me in the past 7-8yrs. The 80s,90s, & early 2000s were the golden age but those days are long gone. To think that designers from 80s look way better than anything made today is very weird & many factors must be in play for that to be the case but these schemes are & always have been ICONIC & beautiful.
While I was familiar with Foyt's crash in the 60's, that Dick Simon crash was crazy. Thanks for mentioning it. Another scary moment happened in the final Winston Cup race in 1988 when the car of Ruben Garcia lost control after exiting turn 9, broke down the corner of the Armco barrier that was protected by tires, crashed through the flimsy catch fence, and then smashed through a concrete wall (not much more than a cinder block wall). Nearly ended up in the laps of the spectators in the grandstand.
Again another “wow”!! Thanks so much for the amazing content! Your videos have made me race Dundrod in Rfactor2, download and enjoy NASCAR 03 again with new cars and tracks including the GN 63 mod, and GTR2 with the Power and Glory mod. Great older games with newer content. I remember these games from back in the day but so much better now! Just one other bit of praise. It’s nice to see someone who loves sim racing but yet doesn’t have or need the latest and greatest in equipment like wheels/rigs etc. to fully enjoy the hobby. No $100,000 sim set up. Please keep up the great work! More nascar 03 and GTR2 please!!
I'd definitely be up for watching a 50% distance NR2003 season. You're fun to watch (and no idea how you can talk and navigate a road course in 03 like this)
Used to go to Riverside as a kid.. That track was awesome! They also used to host the SCORE offroad races there. I just posted a vid of me having fun in AC on this track.. Can't say enough about one of your 'home tracks' I guess. I appreciate you posting this NR race.. I was racing 60's and 70's muscle.. DMAX
Up through 1968, there was no Dogleg, and Turn 9 was a standard, semicircular, banked corner. Foyt realized he was having brake issues, and to avoid hitting the guy in front of him, he threw the car to the inside. There was a deep depression there, and then a big hump, and his car launched. Foyt survived, but it took months for him to recover. While Riverside (1957) may have hosted the widest range of major series, there were a number of good circuits in the West. You have/had Willow Springs (1953), Laguna Seca (1957), Westwood (1959), Seattle Int'l Raceway (1960), Stardust (1965), Sears Point (1968), and Portland (1971, for the layout we recognize now). And though not out by the Pacific, another classic that was relatively far west was Continental Divide Raceway (1959). Admittedly, NASCAR isn't so much my cup of tea. And yes, it's hard to say how interesting a lot of the oval races would be. If I'm looking at a preferred period, I probably liked the look of the cars most from 1982 and before. Of course, there's something special about the muscle cars, fastbacks, and high-winged beasts.
Total aside - Herbie Films - They shot some at Riverside, Some at the older Laguna Seca and Willow Springs (Jack Rabbits Raceway?) - did they shoot any scenes at Sears Point/Sonoma/Infineon - Guess they were more 60's sports car events the film crew could just rock up to and enter a spoof VW in close to Hollywood
Hoping some day someone picks up this era of Stock Car racing again to mod with modern standards. A early-mid-late 80s mod with variations of the Pontiac/Ford/Oldsmobile/Chevy chassis would really make NR2003 complete! Aero88 is still great for how old it is however, and this track is by far THE best track to illustrate that golden era of Stock Car racing.
With how well you describe everything while driving, and how much knowledge you have in all forms of motorsport, I'm surprised you don't get a job as a race announcer. You would be pretty damn good at it.
Damn GP!!!............I learn so much from you on this sim racing stuff , it's incredible! I got into it more seriously about 7 - 8 years ago , but did start back in 2002 / 2003 with the Papyrus Nascar games ( Still have both versions here on CD ).........I had no freakin' clue there were mods for this game!! I guess I just never looked!!??
If you tell me "Riverside", the first thing that comes to my mind, is a red Folgers Chevy #25, the first thing that comes to my mind is Mr. Tim Richmond.
Still can’t believe they didn’t use Riverside a bit more for F1, I know it was one of the last times a Maserati 250F was used in Grand Prix circumstances and it being the early 60s must of looked like a monster with the tiny Lotus-Climax and Cooper-Climax coming to the fore.
The one and only USGP held there (the 1960 race) was a bust because the L.A. Herald Examiner was associated with it, and the much bigger L.A. Times, not wanting to undermine their own Times Grand Prix for sports cars at Riverside, did zero promotion/coverage. As a result pretty much the only people who knew about it outside of hardcore race fans were Herald Examiner readers. Riverside did, however, see use as an F1 testing venue in the late '70s and early '80s when the circus was in town to race at Long Beach. Rick Mears did one of his two tests for Brabham there, setting a faster time than Nelson Piquet.
Love the GPL videos. Want to suggest/request a new video on install and setup of GPL in 2021 ? I got the 2020 demo to work fine, but nothing else; other installers don't work well.
Awesome driving skill. I suck at roud courses, when I used to play nr2003, most of the time, I lock the tires at brake zones and have to pit early...I miss this game, can't wait to buy a new PC and starting playing again.
There was a bug where the AI would pit relatively earlier than you if you doubled (or tripled) the fuel usage (which you noted). Looks like that was the case here, with many pitting twice when they didn't have to. You would typically have to go into the track's config and alter the fuel use parameter to compensate. The max/min AI lines on the backstretch looked to be much narrower than the track given how many would lift if you were side-by-side with them.
Just saw this...awesome video, thanks! Prompted me back to nr2003 after a long hiatus of 20 years. It's fun seeing what older sims can do on modern hardware and with some high res updates. I would really like to get hold of that dash/cockpit you are running but I can't find it anywhere - any suggestions? Anybody? cheers :)
You should do one on Riverside International Speedway as well. The best circuit in the “couple hundred feet west” of the Mississippi River. The only caveat would be that it would be traditional NASCAR racing. Dirt, short track, high banked, and fun and enjoyable when you see it live and in person.
Awesome video.. Loved watching it.. I have this and the Can Am circuit released. Soon I will be releasing the 3rd layout at Riverside called "Riverside Club WKC" Watch for it..
I think NASCAR might use the smaller layouts simply to maintain a similar track size. They want to keep it super speedway length or there about. Also the appeal is close racing and shorter track size make the action feel more consistent to the ticket holders
Great stuff, I always enjoy your "talk 'n' race" videos quite a lot. It's nice to know more about the history of motorsports and old circuits like Riverside as well. Can I ask you what set of mods-carset etc. have you been using for this? Doesn't look like stock aero88 to me.
Man what an amazing custom track. Was this made by the same person that did Spa67, cause it sure is at that level (textured shadows, quality textures, etc.)?
Another great video and now that I’ve learned how to download mods for my AC, I’m gonna do some of this old nascar. I see where the track is located, which mod pack of cars includes the old nascar vehicles if you don’t mind? I’m assuming they are in RaceDepartment somewhere?Thanks.
Okay.. I would love to know how to solve the CTD problem with Win10 that I've never been able to resolve. I miss NR2003 and all the character if its mods. I've tried all I can think of, but gave up over a year ago. After seeing this though, I'd love to hear suggestions I might have missed!
When I try and load the track it says, “could not load track” I tried downloading the shared file on the website and it still didn’t work. How did you get this track to load?
Did you unzip it correctly? When unzipped there should only be one folder called "Riverside Cup WKC" that contains the files for the track. If you have a folder inside of the unzipped folder that is named "Riverside Cup WKC" copy that folder into your tracks folder and go race..
Could you get the Daytona cars pack for AC, and Recreate some real race with it, like you do best. They Look and sound awesome from what I’ve seen, cant tell from videos what the Physics are like, but seem good
Quick Question for everyone: If I was to do a season in NR2003, would folks want a full race unedited, or maybe cut out chunks under caution/lapping by myself?
Cut out the cautions and stuff if nothing happens. A 1988 season would be so cool, loved this mod way back when.
I’m probably alone in this but I vote leaving the entire race in minus maybe the cautions if you did cut stuff out. A more viewer friendly approach would probably be to cut out the laps by yourself. I’ll watch either way!
Stream it live
I'd rather see the entire video unedited. Sure there may be some running alone, but that's racing. Also, it makes for less work on your end.
If I want to skip ahead, I can do so on my own.
The demise of Riverside is still the greatest tragedy in West Coast American Motorsports history.
I was thinking that and Ontario myself...Would've been sick to have had Indycar race there, Indy, Michigan, and Pocono, as a Quadruple Crown sort of deal...
Texas world speedway was pretty dope too
Riverside was awesome to watch, completely open terrain. After the last race a mall was built where the southern portion of the track was located and houses on the north side. Apparently some admin. buildings still remain too.
You guys can add California Speedway (1997-2023) to that too, just torn down this year. You can blame the urban sprawl and all the greedy developers.
@@douglasdixon524 I stayed in the Ayres hotel there back in 2018, it’s located where turn 3 used to be. There’s a Winco across the street from it and a ton of fast food joints all over, the area is super sketch at night. Sad to know that’s it hallowed racing ground and so many greats raced there at one time and a few lost there lives.
14 years between Riverside closing and Nascar 2003 being released, 17 years between Nascar 2003 being released and this mod being released. That is crazy.
I went to my first F1 race at Long Beach in 1978. Don't know why we didn't go sooner, but I saw my first CART race at Riverside in 1980. For the next few years my dad and I would say that we'd want to go to Long Beach to see the cars, but then we'd see CART and IMSA at Riverside for the circuit. I've still never been to any track that had better general admission sightlines and access to them. You were so close. I'll never forget the first time I saw those Indycars come through turn 5 for the first time. Insane. Little I've seen has felt that fast since.
Rick Hendrick actually made a cup start here in a spare car in the final race but only ran a few laps
The track creator(s) did an amazing job on this circuit. Though two racing line issues stood out to me: on corner exit for the slow first gear right hander after the esses, the AI loses a lot of speed by not using the full width of the track; same issue on the left hander onto the back straight. Would love to see em go a bit wider to make passing through those areas a bit tougher.
Great vid as always, GPLaps! Your passion for realistic racing, and appreciation of older eras is infectious.
I grew up going to this track as a kid. Thank you for this it brought back a lot of memories. Granted it is digital but I remember these races vividly.
12:20 I always figured I only thought the older cars were more memorable & stood out more cuz "I was being nostalgic" but I'm glad to hear others think the same thing. I think the sleekness & smoothness of newer cars may contribute but also the newer schemes seem to have too many paint lines going in too many different directions. To me the new schemes look messy & disorganized with lines going every which way. nascar is dead to me in the past 7-8yrs. The 80s,90s, & early 2000s were the golden age but those days are long gone. To think that designers from 80s look way better than anything made today is very weird & many factors must be in play for that to be the case but these schemes are & always have been ICONIC & beautiful.
You should ABSOLUTELY do a series for TH-cam, with this mod for the cars. Loved this video.
While I was familiar with Foyt's crash in the 60's, that Dick Simon crash was crazy. Thanks for mentioning it. Another scary moment happened in the final Winston Cup race in 1988 when the car of Ruben Garcia lost control after exiting turn 9, broke down the corner of the Armco barrier that was protected by tires, crashed through the flimsy catch fence, and then smashed through a concrete wall (not much more than a cinder block wall). Nearly ended up in the laps of the spectators in the grandstand.
Saw some great racing at Riverside in the 70s and 80s
Again another “wow”!!
Thanks so much for the amazing content!
Your videos have made me race Dundrod in Rfactor2, download and enjoy NASCAR 03 again with new cars and tracks including the GN 63 mod, and GTR2 with the Power and Glory mod.
Great older games with newer content.
I remember these games from back in the day but so much better now!
Just one other bit of praise. It’s nice to see someone who loves sim racing but yet doesn’t have or need the latest and greatest in equipment like wheels/rigs etc. to fully enjoy the hobby. No $100,000 sim set up.
Please keep up the great work!
More nascar 03 and GTR2 please!!
I'm loving your stuff. Really like your commentary. Very descriptive, and makes it fun to watch you race. Thanks for all you do.
I'd definitely be up for watching a 50% distance NR2003 season. You're fun to watch (and no idea how you can talk and navigate a road course in 03 like this)
Nicely done! My dad used to come out to Riverside to watch Can Am races, I wish the track was still around, looks like it would be a lot of fun.
Used to go to Riverside as a kid.. That track was awesome! They also used to host the SCORE offroad races there. I just posted a vid of me having fun in AC on this track.. Can't say enough about one of your 'home tracks' I guess. I appreciate you posting this NR race.. I was racing 60's and 70's muscle.. DMAX
Grew up watchin the races at RIVERSIDE,great job recreating the ole gal;sure do miss it🍻🍻🍻
Up through 1968, there was no Dogleg, and Turn 9 was a standard, semicircular, banked corner. Foyt realized he was having brake issues, and to avoid hitting the guy in front of him, he threw the car to the inside. There was a deep depression there, and then a big hump, and his car launched. Foyt survived, but it took months for him to recover.
While Riverside (1957) may have hosted the widest range of major series, there were a number of good circuits in the West. You have/had Willow Springs (1953), Laguna Seca (1957), Westwood (1959), Seattle Int'l Raceway (1960), Stardust (1965), Sears Point (1968), and Portland (1971, for the layout we recognize now). And though not out by the Pacific, another classic that was relatively far west was Continental Divide Raceway (1959).
Admittedly, NASCAR isn't so much my cup of tea. And yes, it's hard to say how interesting a lot of the oval races would be. If I'm looking at a preferred period, I probably liked the look of the cars most from 1982 and before. Of course, there's something special about the muscle cars, fastbacks, and high-winged beasts.
Total aside - Herbie Films - They shot some at Riverside, Some at the older Laguna Seca and Willow Springs (Jack Rabbits Raceway?) - did they shoot any scenes at Sears Point/Sonoma/Infineon - Guess they were more 60's sports car events the film crew could just rock up to and enter a spoof VW in close to Hollywood
Never too much NR2003 content! Love that you are back and would love to see a full season!
Hoping some day someone picks up this era of Stock Car racing again to mod with modern standards. A early-mid-late 80s mod with variations of the Pontiac/Ford/Oldsmobile/Chevy chassis would really make NR2003 complete! Aero88 is still great for how old it is however, and this track is by far THE best track to illustrate that golden era of Stock Car racing.
Gotta love this track. Wish it never was torn down
"7000 rpm were everything fades"
This was great to watch. I love these kinda Nascars.
What sound pack is this? Has a good deep sound.
With how well you describe everything while driving, and how much knowledge you have in all forms of motorsport, I'm surprised you don't get a job as a race announcer. You would be pretty damn good at it.
NASCAR Racing 2003, what a jump in graphics and sound from GPL! Great video!
The Aero88 is such a nice mod, we could really use a new version of it!
Damn GP!!!............I learn so much from you on this sim racing stuff , it's incredible! I got into it more seriously about 7 - 8 years ago , but did start back in 2002 / 2003 with the Papyrus Nascar games ( Still have both versions here on CD ).........I had no freakin' clue there were mods for this game!! I guess I just never looked!!??
26:25 you intimidated the damn intimidator
I love this track, am I wrong saying that this is the track Dale Earnhardt Sr. Cut the grass tk get by?
Riverside International Raceway From The 70s 80s And Early 90s NASCAR Winston Cup Series Iconic Road Course
If you tell me "Riverside", the first thing that comes to my mind, is a red Folgers Chevy #25, the first thing that comes to my mind is Mr. Tim Richmond.
Still can’t believe they didn’t use Riverside a bit more for F1, I know it was one of the last times a Maserati 250F was used in Grand Prix circumstances and it being the early 60s must of looked like a monster with the tiny Lotus-Climax and Cooper-Climax coming to the fore.
The one and only USGP held there (the 1960 race) was a bust because the L.A. Herald Examiner was associated with it, and the much bigger L.A. Times, not wanting to undermine their own Times Grand Prix for sports cars at Riverside, did zero promotion/coverage. As a result pretty much the only people who knew about it outside of hardcore race fans were Herald Examiner readers.
Riverside did, however, see use as an F1 testing venue in the late '70s and early '80s when the circus was in town to race at Long Beach. Rick Mears did one of his two tests for Brabham there, setting a faster time than Nelson Piquet.
A full season would be awesome!
I love learning history about auto sports, and i would love to drive that for sure
Love the GPL videos. Want to suggest/request a new video on install and setup of GPL in 2021 ? I got the 2020 demo to work fine, but nothing else; other installers don't work well.
Wow very nice 👍
Awesome driving skill. I suck at roud courses, when I used to play nr2003, most of the time, I lock the tires at brake zones and have to pit early...I miss this game, can't wait to buy a new PC and starting playing again.
There was a bug where the AI would pit relatively earlier than you if you doubled (or tripled) the fuel usage (which you noted). Looks like that was the case here, with many pitting twice when they didn't have to. You would typically have to go into the track's config and alter the fuel use parameter to compensate.
The max/min AI lines on the backstretch looked to be much narrower than the track given how many would lift if you were side-by-side with them.
I've always wanted to see you post more content on nr2003, so a season would be awesome
As a kid I always thought that this was another name for Sonoma
They do have similar layouts. I think it was on purpose because it was made as a replacement
Fair enough, they can't seem to come up with enough names for that place!
Such a great track, and really well made. I used the AC mod to replace mexico for my 67 season
dale earnhardt passed through the dirt going into the esses passed two cars pretty incredible there is footage of it.
Just saw this...awesome video, thanks! Prompted me back to nr2003 after a long hiatus of 20 years. It's fun seeing what older sims can do on modern hardware and with some high res updates. I would really like to get hold of that dash/cockpit you are running but I can't find it anywhere - any suggestions? Anybody? cheers :)
Please please please do a series on this, starring Richie Axelson Jr. Fantastic video as always!
Love this track. This looks like a great rendition of it, guess I need to get NR2003 working again!
I would be interested in watching any season from the 80s but in particular 1986 or 1988 would be my preference.
What reshade do you use in the replays
You should do one on Riverside International Speedway as well. The best circuit in the “couple hundred feet west” of the Mississippi River. The only caveat would be that it would be traditional NASCAR racing. Dirt, short track, high banked, and fun and enjoyable when you see it live and in person.
H.B. BAILEY!!! You know your obscure NASCAR stuff...How 'bout a little J.D. McDuffie ,Jimmy Means, Buddy Arrington, and, Bobby Wawak action!!!
Phil Barkdoll!
Simply stunning 👍🏁🍾
What spotter pack is this? I've heard it before but can't recall the name
That intro is SICK!
Awesome video.. Loved watching it.. I have this and the Can Am circuit released. Soon I will be releasing the 3rd layout at Riverside called "Riverside Club WKC" Watch for it..
It’s been a few years but please do a historical season
Wow I need to reinstall NR2003...this looks awesome
What a great circuit
road courses are so damn fun with this sim, the cars feel so light and agile for being american stock cars
Is there a new download link for riverside international cause idk where to find this version
I cant seem to find this version of Riverside anymore, do you have a link?
it is a pity that there are so few road courses from GPL to NR2003, because I have a taste for interlagos or Hethel aka lotus test track
hey gp laps how did you get nascar 03 running in wide screen i cant find any patches for it
Great track
Plus you can run the 1961 us Grange prix there
This track remembers me of Sonoma quite a lot...
I would love some more nascar 2003. I hope you finish the dos nascar game you have been streaming.
Can someone tell me where I can safely buy or download this game?
Is there a current site hosting this track? Looks like the original link is bad. Thanks!
I think NASCAR might use the smaller layouts simply to maintain a similar track size. They want to keep it super speedway length or there about. Also the appeal is close racing and shorter track size make the action feel more consistent to the ticket holders
Great stuff, I always enjoy your "talk 'n' race" videos quite a lot. It's nice to know more about the history of motorsports and old circuits like Riverside as well.
Can I ask you what set of mods-carset etc. have you been using for this? Doesn't look like stock aero88 to me.
Thanks for the kind words. I believe its the full 1988 carser. If you google for it it comes up on the weebly
I love racing this track in Assetto Corsa.
Me too! Its really good in any sim and I'm very excited we finally have a good version of it for Nascar!
Many years ago I tried Riverside in NASCAR Legends, driving a Mercury Cyclone. Great track but I wallowed all over the place.
What mod do you use to get the clear UI?
Man what an amazing custom track. Was this made by the same person that did Spa67, cause it sure is at that level (textured shadows, quality textures, etc.)?
I feel like i'm the only one who's gonna suggest this, but I feel like you should do a season of 1955 cars.
Know this is a old upload and old post I just found it. Did you get the iroc mod or the old trans am mod for nr2003.
Another great video and now that I’ve learned how to download mods for my AC, I’m gonna do some of this old nascar.
I see where the track is located, which mod pack of cars includes the old nascar vehicles if you don’t mind? I’m assuming they are in RaceDepartment somewhere?Thanks.
Great track!
Okay.. I would love to know how to solve the CTD problem with Win10 that I've never been able to resolve. I miss NR2003 and all the character if its mods.
I've tried all I can think of, but gave up over a year ago. After seeing this though, I'd love to hear suggestions I might have missed!
Could you please share which soundpack you use?
It is the Petty V8 sound pack
@@GPLaps thank you so much Sir!
I no longer have the NR2003 CD, or can it be downloaded?
Where can I find track mods for nascar racing 4?
When I try and load the track it says, “could not load track” I tried downloading the shared file on the website and it still didn’t work. How did you get this track to load?
I would ask on the developers page: facebook.com/groups/wildkustomcars/
@@GPLaps Thx
Did you unzip it correctly? When unzipped there should only be one folder called "Riverside Cup WKC" that contains the files for the track. If you have a folder inside of the unzipped folder that is named "Riverside Cup WKC" copy that folder into your tracks folder and go race..
Boot up AC and try AC riverside track with Nascar 71, AC legends, TransAm mod at THR site
Such a shame this track was so dangerous. Fantastic circuit
The 1992 season would be fantastic racing against Alan kulwicki Chase Elliott and Bobby Allison
What engine soundpack is that?
You wanna know what coming back to this video a. Year later wants me to replicate this track in Forza horizon 5
I'd love to see this converted to rFactor.
Cool!
Could you get the Daytona cars pack for AC, and Recreate some real race with it, like you do best. They Look and sound awesome from what I’ve seen, cant tell from videos what the Physics are like, but seem good
love if you did an 88 seasion and a 66 seasion
It's insane that this simulator came out in 2003.
Love the circuit. Have it on Assetto Corsa.
this track was in Nascar Legends, wasn't it?
This track ran 2 Cups races ea yr during it's existence
great video!
PLS HELP ME!!!!!!!!!!!! in my game "says could not load this track"
1982!
Billy Elliot is that Nascar film people ignore and they think of Ricky Bobby or Days of Thunder-
Sonoma ( sears Point ) have a identical track layout from Riverside...
R.I.P.
R.I.R.