Thanks a lot Jexnpierre! Luckily I didn't have to do it 8 times lol, the trick is to alt-f4 as soon as the music fades out so the server doesn't register you having beaten the fight.
@@SolitariusLimbus what??? For me when i was about to the end of phase 3, the stagger before the cutscene i closed the game and it still registered as winning the fight when i resumed the dungeon
I see a lot of people talking about how this fight is hard, followed by a bunch people saying “yeah, healing egos help but it’s brutal” Fun fact: don is immortal until she’s the last one left - she fell to 1 hp several times where she should have died in my run Therefore, meat lantern don eating 6 one sided attacks to bodyguard a second strong unit makes this fight very doable
@@GameBooAdvancePlus I am not resistant to chain battles, I like this system. What people aren't fond of, is aoe unbreakable coins which inflict 6/6 bleeds, even if you break the coin. This is artificial difficulty, which also fails to work, due to heal egos being so good, especially fluid sac. Tell me this, your option 1 is doing fight "properly" and wasting plenty of extra turns taking chip dmg from aoe normal attacks, or option 2 you go with 1 unit and use the best defensive skill type in the game to completely shit on the boss and then do 2 rip spaces, thanks to multicrack cliff passive?
@@KyKiske97 I would do the fight properly because its more fun. If you bring backup sinners then its super easy to brute force the fight anyway. It starts out difficult but gets easier as it progresses because Sancho gets more buffs and Don gets less aggressive. People who lose a sinner and immediately restart don't know this, but if you had backup sinners you can just keep going and eventually win. Speedrunner logic is not an acceptable argument, unless you find speedrunning fun (I don't).
@@GameBooAdvancePlus this fight doesn't even start hard, coming after the sancho fight its pretty damn easy to succeed, the only thing that you gotta worry about the entire fight is not bleeding out from chip dmg aoes, which as I stated is not fun, nor interactive. If you think otherwise, feel free to stand on that hill till the end. Managing to clear the fight as a solo is less of a speedrun thing and more of a general flex, if you did it day 1 when people didn't realise how much easier it is this way. Due to avoiding the only threat of the fight.
@@KyKiske97 I will die on that "hill" then. HP is a resource like everything else in the game, just like every RPG in existence. People should not get upset over that resource being used as intended.
@@flamemano yeah they spammed the absolute living hell out of unbreakable coins and bleed, oh wait a minute i think they probably intended for you to solo it 💀
@@x3dwany371possible to do with a full team I basically had to keep using healing egos and made sure to check everyone's bleed count and make sinners with a ton of bleed clash less and use attacks with lesser coins and of course you can always evade unbreakable coins
Didn't Don Quixote himself said it reminded him of the Bloodfiend vs Humans war because the Bloodfiends were on the size of giants? If you're asking why its like that I think it's just their own version of the iconic scene from the source material where Don Quixote charges at the windmills thinking they were giants.
Yeah that's right, the team selection right before the final boss just greys out the save team button if you have LCB Don selected which forces you to use one of her other IDs.
@@BOSSKINGofficialyoutubechannel ...I personally have never soloed with base don, so I have no idea. But Base Don hasn't seen much changes after this canto, only two differences appear in her base EGO tho. Red eyes and a new line, go figure.
yall we are fighting a FIRST KINDRED, this fight is intended to go through ALL of our sinners so no wonder you're gonna need to use ALL of your sinners
This is a common argument for Chain Battle, but the way it was done was a bit mid, only empowering what was already strong (Damage > Clashing, Evade > Other Defensives).
I had actually ended up doing the BL Don one because I couldn't be bothered to try and either shard WDON or struggle with the unbreakable coin spam. It had taken me a bit but it was really fun! Surprisingly if you simply dodge the boss and use electric screaming + envy res you can essentially heal to the maximum and refund your sp. Plus it's just funny to realize that BL Don gains poise count like a generator
@@ruu4972 Wish I had heard about that before passing the last save point, and I really don’t want to have to redo the entire dungeon and those awful Dulcinea fights. And evades don’t work against triggered unbreakables? She evades them at 51:00.
@@KnakuanaRka With W Don solo, you beak the unbreakables with your first 5 skills, then use your last skill slot as a dodge on the first skill of the enemy, but make sure to still clash it first, since the coin power lowers to 1 on unbreakables when shattered
Sancho took me a while to beat with my bleed team, but soloing Don with W Corp was almost braindead easy (I'm glad I sharded her just in case). I have Meat Lantern, but I don't usually use her so I'm not used to the rhythm. With W Corp, you just clash the bloodfiend fodder for sanity, make sure to have an evade up, multiple just in case, ensure charge is good before Ripping Space, and you're golden.
I wonder why you can't use Base ID Don for this. Is it because at that time she doesn't have Rocinante(?) that's why she have to use IDs that still have them. Then I do wonder, what if you don't have any Don's ID during this.
@@Nelland iirc, game gives you in Support tab all Don 000s at IV Uptie and IV EGOs (so you can try out new WAW before finishing the Battlepass) instead of actual support IDs from friends
Could you rate from easiest to hardest Don to solo with in this bossfight? I am curious, for example, if Middle Don is easier to solo with thanks to the bleed healing or the evades are more powerful.
If you want an actual don solo, not "The New WaW EGO solo", W-Corp is probably the strongest. Lots of coins to make use of Don's unique buff, and has an evade. But if you abuse ego, I think it's not really an issue for any ID. Base Don still, probably, the hardest.
@@Clain_1337, you can't use LCB Don Quixote. This can only be done with an external Identity. So technically, you are correct. Base Don is the hardest id to solo this because it's impossible.
I would say that Cinq and Meat Lantern were the easiest since I was able to do so much damage I could just ignore the mechanics of the fight. W-Corp is next, then Shi / Blade Lineage, mainly because they all have evades which lets you avoid the unbreakable coins and the forced stagger. Then T-Corp, Middle, and N-Corp in that order, the only challenge with them is doing enough damage to skip the forced stagger since they can't evade, but saving up S3s for a high damage turn was usually enough to get through (plus the EGO if damage wasn't good enough).
W Yi-Sang, Seven Faust, Seven Ryoshu, W Meursault, TT Hong Lu, R Heathcliff, Zwei West Ishmael, LCB Rodya, Talisman Sinclair, G Outis, Zwei Gregor. In the end though, the only passive that really mattered was talisman Sinclair, everything else is optional.
@@luxi5875 u can still solo with lantern don and skip Horse phase without bench talisclair like me,u just need to maintain the rupture count (around 20+ potency and 4-6 count i every turn was enough ig,if the count was lower than that,try to use s2 more and s3 if avaible).plus with bench passive that increase dmg like base rodya and tt hong (u can try bench base ryo or shi heath if u dont have tt hong but its more risky since it also increase ur dmg taken)
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The 8 Don Quixote Souls has been claimed. Good job Solitarius. I can't imagine myself doing this dungeon 8 times lmao
Thanks a lot Jexnpierre! Luckily I didn't have to do it 8 times lol, the trick is to alt-f4 as soon as the music fades out so the server doesn't register you having beaten the fight.
@@SolitariusLimbus The classic Alt-F4. I didn't know that to be honest. Hey, at least you didn't suffer the entire dungeon 8 times.
@@Jexnpierrethe thought of doing lasso man 8 times is enough to make a man distort
@@SolitariusLimbus what??? For me when i was about to the end of phase 3, the stagger before the cutscene i closed the game and it still registered as winning the fight when i resumed the dungeon
@@QterENS Not sure why that would be the case, might be the difference between closing the game normally vs a forced shutdown.
the music sync at 3:13 made me unreasonably happy
I'd say the most fitting Don has to be Shi Quixote, as her character most resembles what our Don seems to have become going forward.
I see a lot of people talking about how this fight is hard, followed by a bunch people saying “yeah, healing egos help but it’s brutal”
Fun fact: don is immortal until she’s the last one left - she fell to 1 hp several times where she should have died in my run
Therefore, meat lantern don eating 6 one sided attacks to bodyguard a second strong unit makes this fight very doable
A bunch of unbreakable are aoe
"Sancho, I have conceived an idea most ingenious"
"How about we have 8 duels using your Time Piece?"
i find it funny how soloing the boss feels easier than fighting him with a full team
You're supposed to use a full sinner squad but people still are resistant to using the chain battle system for some reason.
@@GameBooAdvancePlus I am not resistant to chain battles, I like this system. What people aren't fond of, is aoe unbreakable coins which inflict 6/6 bleeds, even if you break the coin. This is artificial difficulty, which also fails to work, due to heal egos being so good, especially fluid sac. Tell me this, your option 1 is doing fight "properly" and wasting plenty of extra turns taking chip dmg from aoe normal attacks, or option 2 you go with 1 unit and use the best defensive skill type in the game to completely shit on the boss and then do 2 rip spaces, thanks to multicrack cliff passive?
@@KyKiske97 I would do the fight properly because its more fun. If you bring backup sinners then its super easy to brute force the fight anyway. It starts out difficult but gets easier as it progresses because Sancho gets more buffs and Don gets less aggressive. People who lose a sinner and immediately restart don't know this, but if you had backup sinners you can just keep going and eventually win. Speedrunner logic is not an acceptable argument, unless you find speedrunning fun (I don't).
@@GameBooAdvancePlus this fight doesn't even start hard, coming after the sancho fight its pretty damn easy to succeed, the only thing that you gotta worry about the entire fight is not bleeding out from chip dmg aoes, which as I stated is not fun, nor interactive. If you think otherwise, feel free to stand on that hill till the end. Managing to clear the fight as a solo is less of a speedrun thing and more of a general flex, if you did it day 1 when people didn't realise how much easier it is this way. Due to avoiding the only threat of the fight.
@@KyKiske97 I will die on that "hill" then. HP is a resource like everything else in the game, just like every RPG in existence. People should not get upset over that resource being used as intended.
Good job solitaire dude.
This boss is hilariously difficult to the point i thought it was a scripted loss 😭😭😭😭
its unironically easier to don solo the entire canto than it is to play it properly. Awful boss deign this canto tbf
@@flamemano yeah they spammed the absolute living hell out of unbreakable coins and bleed, oh wait a minute i think they probably intended for you to solo it 💀
@@flamemano funny thing with this entire canto too, its easier to solo with don
@@x3dwany371possible to do with a full team I basically had to keep using healing egos and made sure to check everyone's bleed count and make sinners with a ton of bleed clash less and use attacks with lesser coins and of course you can always evade unbreakable coins
@@mao38 i do not own a single healing ego 💀
I think by the last fight "Does this wheel not remind you of the old war, Sancho?" was actually Don talking about their duel timeloop.
Didn't Don Quixote himself said it reminded him of the Bloodfiend vs Humans war because the Bloodfiends were on the size of giants?
If you're asking why its like that I think it's just their own version of the iconic scene from the source material where Don Quixote charges at the windmills thinking they were giants.
@@vority2860dude his talking about how don is fighting don multiple times here
@@wolflightning2331 yeah you're right, my bad
Weird enough he mentions that those giants bloodfiends had a lot of arma... Like certain greek giants @@vority2860
nice
playing this in the background while i grind atleast 5 mirror dungeons (then probably more)
So you mean we can't use LCB Don Quixote in the Battle...only the ID of Don Quixotes can do it to Defeat The La Machaland's Don Quixote, right?
Yeah that's right, the team selection right before the final boss just greys out the save team button if you have LCB Don selected which forces you to use one of her other IDs.
@@SolitariusLimbus It's kinda made sense because her base ID became Sancho. not ours Don that is.
They fixed the usability of Base Don
...they disabled support units though, but... it caused a ton of issues.
@@NathanDreiNicor is it true if...the New ID of Don Quixote could be Real?
@@BOSSKINGofficialyoutubechannel ...I personally have never soloed with base don, so I have no idea.
But Base Don hasn't seen much changes after this canto, only two differences appear in her base EGO tho.
Red eyes and a new line, go figure.
yall we are fighting a FIRST KINDRED, this fight is intended to go through ALL of our sinners so no wonder you're gonna need to use ALL of your sinners
Weaken frist kindred
ok, solos are still peak and fuck intended way
This is a common argument for Chain Battle, but the way it was done was a bit mid, only empowering what was already strong (Damage > Clashing, Evade > Other Defensives).
Yes, but having 200000 unbreakable coins on 90 percent of attacks is a bit ridiculous
I had actually ended up doing the BL Don one because I couldn't be bothered to try and either shard WDON or struggle with the unbreakable coin spam.
It had taken me a bit but it was really fun! Surprisingly if you simply dodge the boss and use electric screaming + envy res you can essentially heal to the maximum and refund your sp. Plus it's just funny to realize that BL Don gains poise count like a generator
Thank god, this is going to help so much; that boss absolutely slaughtered me first time, but a solo with W looks like it should work.
It will work, just dont clash unbreakables so you wont bleed to death. Also try to fit bench passives to W don
@@ruu4972 Wish I had heard about that before passing the last save point, and I really don’t want to have to redo the entire dungeon and those awful Dulcinea fights. And evades don’t work against triggered unbreakables? She evades them at 51:00.
@@KnakuanaRka With W Don solo, you beak the unbreakables with your first 5 skills, then use your last skill slot as a dodge on the first skill of the enemy, but make sure to still clash it first, since the coin power lowers to 1 on unbreakables when shattered
@@KnakuanaRka You can reload to the last checkpoint if you need to change your team
@@CheeseMan-9219 Didn’t know that; will pick the passives I need. Thanks.
You are crazy, dude.
One day we will have a mod that allow us to play with a team of ids of a same sinner
There is, just not public
public ones get murdered by kjh
Sancho took me a while to beat with my bleed team, but soloing Don with W Corp was almost braindead easy (I'm glad I sharded her just in case). I have Meat Lantern, but I don't usually use her so I'm not used to the rhythm. With W Corp, you just clash the bloodfiend fodder for sanity, make sure to have an evade up, multiple just in case, ensure charge is good before Ripping Space, and you're golden.
i am scared
At least you get to listen to peak while grinding this out.
he didn't grind it he just alt+f4 to not lose progress on boss
@@bullet3417 I know, but for every Identity?
@@limbuscompanywarden not that hard tbh, animations of Don quixote skills take the most time here xd
Tbh it's easier to solo with don, than any other way.
I wonder why you can't use Base ID Don for this. Is it because at that time she doesn't have Rocinante(?) that's why she have to use IDs that still have them. Then I do wonder, what if you don't have any Don's ID during this.
Iirc the game let's you use the support feature to choose a Don ID (and all of them are uptie 4 cuz of the dungeon mechanics)
@@Qobp What if you don't have a friend in your friend list? Do the game still provides you with 'support' id?
@@Nelland iirc, game gives you in Support tab all Don 000s at IV Uptie and IV EGOs (so you can try out new WAW before finishing the Battlepass) instead of actual support IDs from friends
I keep trying to do this with shi don but she always forgets how to breathe and she just explodes
You were waiting for this canto’s boss huh.
Ok, question hypothetically. If you made it to Dons chapter and never got a don ID, what would happen?
You get access to a special support list so you can use any of her 3-stars.
@@melon4735 very cool
Can't base IDs this 😢
Waiting for Don Quixote vs Don Quixote Id
Solo kino
Could you rate from easiest to hardest Don to solo with in this bossfight? I am curious, for example, if Middle Don is easier to solo with thanks to the bleed healing or the evades are more powerful.
If you want an actual don solo, not "The New WaW EGO solo", W-Corp is probably the strongest. Lots of coins to make use of Don's unique buff, and has an evade.
But if you abuse ego, I think it's not really an issue for any ID. Base Don still, probably, the hardest.
@@Clain_1337, you can't use LCB Don Quixote. This can only be done with an external Identity. So technically, you are correct. Base Don is the hardest id to solo this because it's impossible.
@@Clain_1337Meatlantern. Straight up skips phases with talismans active.
I would say that Cinq and Meat Lantern were the easiest since I was able to do so much damage I could just ignore the mechanics of the fight.
W-Corp is next, then Shi / Blade Lineage, mainly because they all have evades which lets you avoid the unbreakable coins and the forced stagger.
Then T-Corp, Middle, and N-Corp in that order, the only challenge with them is doing enough damage to skip the forced stagger since they can't evade, but saving up S3s for a high damage turn was usually enough to get through (plus the EGO if damage wasn't good enough).
@ulises2084 you got that right :^)
14:54 ouch my ears
1 2 3 4
With meat lantern is just too easy
That poor spacebar.
At 51:41 boss just killed me with unopposed attacks? I did the same exact thing as on video.
Unfortunately no LCB / Base Don run...
what happens if you dont have any don ids?
Can you show the support sinners you have?
What supports did u use for meat lantern?
Ty
W Yi-Sang, Seven Faust, Seven Ryoshu, W Meursault, TT Hong Lu, R Heathcliff, Zwei West Ishmael, LCB Rodya, Talisman Sinclair, G Outis, Zwei Gregor.
In the end though, the only passive that really mattered was talisman Sinclair, everything else is optional.
@@SolitariusLimbushow are you putting so much rupture without talisman?
@@luxi5875what?
Girl... He said he used Talisman Sinclair@@luxi5875
@@luxi5875 u can still solo with lantern don and skip Horse phase without bench talisclair like me,u just need to maintain the rupture count (around 20+ potency and 4-6 count i every turn was enough ig,if the count was lower than that,try to use s2 more and s3 if avaible).plus with bench passive that increase dmg like base rodya and tt hong (u can try bench base ryo or shi heath if u dont have tt hong but its more risky since it also increase ur dmg taken)
How do you refight the boss without doing the boss
how do you start with 40 sp?
I just dont out put as much damage as your T-corp Don.