How the 3dfx Voodoo 2 changed my life - Retro GPU on a Modern PC
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This is one of the coolest things I've done in a long time. A 3dfx Voodoo 2 with a 12th Gen Intel i5 with NO ADAPTERS!
For everyone wondering about Windows 98/KVM - kvm98-3dfx is up: github.com/gearseekers/kvm98-...
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Chapters
00:00 - Down the rabbit hole we go
02:01 - A Brief History of 3dfx
04:08 - How does this even work now?
05:26 - The setup
05:51 - A few problems at the start & repairs
07:09 - The Voodoo 2 is not what you think it is
08:04 - Plugging in 10000 cables
09:17 - Powering it up
10:37 - Making Windows detect the card
11:28 - Lock and Load!
12:14 - Unreal Tournament
16:34 - Quake II
19:00 - Return To Castle Wolfenstein
20:17 - Should you bother?
21:57 - Other plans with this setup
22:27 - This is different to other attempts at this
24:11 - Why not Windows 11?
24:34 - What was your first Graphics Card? - วิทยาศาสตร์และเทคโนโลยี
For everyone wondering about Windows 98/KVM: kvm98-3dfx is up on Github.
PART 2 IS NOW LIVE: th-cam.com/video/MfnZRTz5rJ4/w-d-xo.html
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This is like one of those scenes in a movie where the hero(s) find random old scrap and somehow builds a device to save them
Awesome project 😊🎉
Huh, what a coincidence to run into Phil's comment here!
On second thought... it's not ;)
Dear phil, for me no modern project using a 3dfx card is complete unless its capable to run, Ubisoft/Playmobil Interactive "Hype the time Quest".
Also thanks TH-cam for actively trying to kill our channel by burying all of our videos. We appreciate you
welp, the algorithm might have blessed you then. i just found this in my recommended, so here take a like. i see some interesting videos on your channel, i think i'll stick around
I appreciate you!
I already love your channel but I'm a 3dfx collector and this was the video I never knew I needed.
@@Artemis_WR This made my day. Thank you for clicking on us 🥰🥰
@@KlaireGearSeekers 🙂
Unreal Tournament - this game brings back so many fond memories!
I still remember when I finally got a Voodoo2, and put it behind my Riva TNT, I thought I was almost king of the world. Huge step up from my original Matrox M3D.
I remember how my 2 MB Matrox Mystique (couldn't afford the 4 MB version) was SAVED by the Orchid Righteous 3Dfx Voodoo accelerator card, the original one that still went click-clickety-click whenever it switched between the pure pass-through video and the 3Dfx accelerated video for games. I had the choice back then to get that Voodoo card or a streamer. You know, basically a drive that writes computer data onto VHS tapes. Remember VHS tapes? What an awesome time to have been alive.
That’s awesome, I still own mine since the day it came out. I found it like 5 days ago in my storage bin. It’s in mint condition
Wow! That's so cool it's still fresh!
Voodoo 2 12mb from creative
Believe it or not, I've still got a pair of Voodoo2s new in the box and sealed. Legendary card.
Get out :O That's AMAZING
You are a real one for letting Foregone Destruction rock. Thank you!
The Voodoo 2 was my first 3D accelerator, love seeing one getting some love in the modern age.
I use to run a UT server back in the day. This made me have tons of nostalgic flashbacks. Thank you so much.
Love this kinda content, proper flashback to my early days of building PC's...all your typical games spring to mind, Quake, Unreal Touranment, Wolfenstein...but for me it just brings back memories of playing Kingpin, loved that game.
More of this stuff please Nick and Klaire 🙏
We will try!
Star wars jedi outcast 1 and 2, the star trek force games, rainbow six and rogue spear....man so many games
Banger of a video fams, keep up the hard work. Was a great watch
❤
Love this - I started to build PCs in the era of ATi Rage MAXX, 3dfx Voodoo, Matrox and Power VR. I opted for a PowerVR card back in the day, coupled with an iiyama trinitron flat fronted CRT monitor - it was awesome.
Every card took some configuration to get it working well in the games of the day too - thanks for the trip back along memory lane 😊
Voodoo 2 was an absolute beast at the time
Love this channel, polished *and* intelligent content. Absolutely deserves more love. Will always remember this channel for the PowerMac G5 video that dispelled the misinformation on FX 4500 revisions.
Appreciate the kind words mate!
I was running two of these in SLI back in 2000! My PC died. Friends dad invited me over and gave me an old server they used to use for CAD rendering. I was able to get Win98SE running on the server hardware and enjoyed several years of UT, Quake, and many more games. I miss Voodoo.
this video is going to help someone with a really specific project in the future
The CEO/COO of 3dfx would be proud of you
I love this. I still have my voodoo 2. It was my first 3D card ever. I also had a Pentium 200mmx, 32mb ram and a S3 Virge with the Creative labs Voodoo 2 12mb. 800x600 was max resolution for 1 card. If you had SLI you could get 1024x768, I upgraded to a voodoo 3 2000 AGP card after that. Interesting thing to note about this is at this stage of gaming graphics you could get a card every 6 months that would double the performance of the previous card. There was no nonsense of running a modern game on a 10 year old GPU. You have to take into account that the voodoo 2 came out in mid 1998. In end of 1999 the geforce 256 launch. That card was 4 times more powerful. It was insane.
Looking back I remember every 6 months to a year I had to buy a completely new computer. People still rocking Geforce Gtx 1070 today and being able to play games is crazy to me. If you bought a voodoo 2 in 1998 there was no way you'd be playing any games released in 2006. You had 12mb VRAM max compared to card launching that year that came with 256 - 512mb. That was the year the Geforce 7000 series and Radeon x1000 series Launched.
I remember those days fondly and building a new once to twice a year was amazing to me.
Still spewing I sold off my voodoo 5500. Wing commander on it was glorious. I had a monster 3D, a voodoo 3- 2000 then the 5500.
Same here mate, had one in the late 2000's as a 3d card for a pci-only system and sold it for a pittance when I no longer needed it. I need it now though 😢
had a voodoo 4 4500 PCI. i was blowna way at the time. loved it and my amd k6-II
I still have my Banshee, 2 voodoo1, a voodoo2, voodoo3-2000, Voodoo4 4500 and my Voodoo5 5500. The 2 and one of the 1s need repair, but it's the collection I'll never let go of.
This kind of content is the reason I watch youtube more than anything else and pay for premium. Great video!
Thanks so much
oh man... the memories are flooding back... "HEADSHOT!" hahahaha. thank you so much for the trip down memory lane Nick.
they say everyone remembers their "first"... I remember my first was an 8mb Voodoo .
My first PC had a GeForce 6800 (no suffix, PCIe & 256MB). I'm from '93 and my first experience with 3D gaming was allegedly A2 Racer (1997) on what was at the time my family's sole computer. In 2005 my mom got her own computer and in 2006 my parents got me one as well, a Dell Dimension 5000 with a hyper-threaded Pentium 4 3GHz and the aforementioned GF 6800. Loved that system, but after I moved out and asked my parents to hold onto it for me, it had vanished by the time I went to pick it up from them :( I have acquired an identical replacement of it since though :)
yea the only revolution that ever happend in 3d graphics
I keep my media cases in storage and use sleeve case books for the media itself. Makes it easier to access, without all the bulk of the cases
This was dope, definitely continue making more vids like this!
To be pedantic, the only thing in common between 3dfx SLI and Nvidia SLI are the idea of combining the power of multiple cards and the acronym... 3dfx SLI was scan line interleave with each card responsible for alternating lines of the render, while Nvidia SLI stands for scalable link interface and each card renders either a separate frame or a contiguous part of a frame.
BTW, nice video 😀
I never had 3dfx myself - with the first PC I purchased for myself I chose the Nvidia Riva 128 (a Diamond Viper V330 to be precise), and upgraded it to a Riva TNT when that was released soon after, largely thanks to the store that built the PC giving me an unintentionally great trade in price on the V330.
Awesome video fams. Nothing like a trip down memory lane to start the day.
Awesome video Nick!!! Full of memories😁
Nice! ... I wish I had a Voodoo back in the day ... My first 3D card was a PowerVR Kyro II (Hercules), It was a weird card, but fast enough for the games I was playing at that time.
The Kyro II was such a weird card back then. It was really good at some things and horrible at others.
Wow, thanks for reminding me how much fun I had playing these games.
I remember having an Nvidia TNT2 Riva with like 32mb of RAM. I had about 384mb or system RAM too. Mannnnnnn
I spent no time clicking the bell icon to make Gear Seekers play on my modern PC.
Looking at this all set up is incredible.
I loved the video. First tine on your channel. Looking forward to other obscure hardware.
I never realised that the Voodoo 2 could be connected to any Video Card. My original gaming PC was a Voodoo Banshee + 2 x Voodoo 2 in SLI.
It did me right through in my main PC until the release of the Geforce2 MX400 which I needed to play Black & White
Awesome vid. I used to play the original UT on a Powermac G3. Had the ATI Rage 128 Pro - 16mb GPU. I eventually upgraded to the Radeon 7000 Pro - 32mb GPU. Good work on getting this working with more modern hardware. Silly part is that the onboard graphics on the CPU would probably do a better job. But definitely a fun experiment.
Oh the integrated graphics blows the Voodoo out of the water 🤣
Unreal Tournament, those sounds took me 25Y in the past and instantly refreshed memories 😂 thx for that Nick 😊 we are geting old
Awesome video, can't beat the vibe of someone just being super excited about what they are doing. Like I know you love building PC's for all your regular vids but this was just such a passion project it really shone through.
My first experience of 3d gaming I reckon would have been Stunts in the early 90's and in my memory I was great at it but I was also like 4 years old so chances are that I was actually rubbish haha
It was probably another decade after that before I would have taken any interest in the hardware side of things so no idea what was even in the rig that powered my introduction to gaming but it ruined my life quite effectively 😅
The Voodoo2 12mb version was my first 3D GPU. Before that it was 2D card gaming only, and that was fine, until I finally got one back in 98.
It was a leap. A giant leap in performance.
Playing Tombraider 3, Unreal 1 at the time it was insane.
You cannot really compare the level of the leap with current hardware.
Now you get a better GPU, but it's still somewhat the same as the previous one.
Going from a 2D card to 3D card was just... something else. Something many people who missed it will never experience.
I'm glad the algorithm recommended this to me. Discovering an intersting channel from this video.
I remember getting one of these around the time Quake3Arena released, fun times!!!
My first 3dfx card was a first generation Voodoo, Canopus Pure 3D and then went on to a Canopus Pure 3D II. I still remember getting excited every time I would see in game menus, extra options enabled, for particle effects, trail effects, etc that no other card would render. Such great times. Shame how things ended for 3dfx but mistakes were made.
Love it, nice video!
I have a Voodoo 3 2000 I picked up recently and its been a joy to play with on my Pentium III rig.
I had Voodoo1, voodoo3 3000 and 3500tv, I loved 3dfx.
90s were absolutely amazing.
now i will have the ut music in my ear for the rest of the day. face was always fun. nice project. i love it
This is amazing! I bought a Voodoo 2 new for my Celeron 400mhz system back in the day.
I had a pentium 2 with 2 voodoo 2 banshee cards in sli with a tnt nvidia card and well to play quake 2 and half life in 1998 with an 8 gb hard drive! The cards cost a total of £450 at the time! Had to upgrade the cards to an invidia 280 gt and operating system to play home world.
This brings back memories. My system was 1gb p-3, Creative Labs dvd decoder card. SB awe, ati all in wonder pro, 2 voodoo 2 in sli. I had more pass through cables sticking out of my system. But worlds biggest pain. When it worked it was amazing. But it was a nightmare setup everything. lol
Absolute beast!!
Still have somewhere my 3dfx Voodoo 5 6000. Was epic!
V5 6000 was never released to the public
My first graphic card was a Voodoo 3 2000 16MB PCI, it was a true GPU (no VGA pass through) and worked perfectly as a way to get video out on any PC once I didn't use it for gaming.
I had it nearby as a backup testing card up until 2013, I think. It was insane to have a single GPU that could work on PCI, AGP, and PCI-E era systems. It's also a great reason I don't buy CPU that don't have iGPU nowadays.
I wish I had the PCI version!
The fact that you let the full UT 99 intro play... a true man of culture!
Awesome video, I had to show it to my son what I was playing on :)
Hell yeah! That's so lovely you can share the memories with him!
Awesome video .. I think my first 3d accelerator was the 3dfx Voodoo Banshee..
Never did i think i would see Windows 10 interacting with a real Voodoo 2 card, much less see the Voodoo 2 render something with the card running on Windows 10!
Insane to see that Windows 10 still somehow has support for the card as long as you disable driver enforcement.
I found an 8MB voodoo 2 (diamond) in a box recently in my stash of PC parts. Still works. Although I got it going in XP, not 98.
This is why I'm not selling my LCD monitors with VGA :)
Note that pluggin the VGA-in isn't mandatory on 3DFx (it's not genlocking like some MPEG-2 accelerator boards). It was merely a convenience back in the days because very few people used multi-monitor setups - this helped people getting both the 2D image from their main graphics card and the 3D on their (unique) monitors.
Nowadays with cheap LCDs everywhere it's possible to leave each card to its own display output (like done when capturing the output in this video).
Yeah, easy enough to run HDMI from the iGPU and VGA from the Voodoo into 2 inputs on a monitor and let that switch between them.
@@tOSdude Autoswitch from Voodoo to desktop GPU will work (once the game shuts down, the Voodoo stops emitting a signal, and display will look for something else, finding the desktop GPU).
Desktop GPU to Voodoo will _not_ be automatic (unless you tweak some priority list on the display) as the desktop continues to work normally while the Voodoo displays the game (it's possible to run a debugger on the desktop if you need), and thus the display has no reasons to switch away because it doesn't reach a "no signal" situation that would trigger jumping to the Voodoo.
My first Voodoo was a Voodoo 2 12 Mb and then a Voodoo 5500 AGP.
Looks like Gigabyte released a B760 version, the B760M D3H, and it even has DDR5 support. There's also the Asus Pro B550M-C/CSM, though it has no VGA.
My first 3D attempt was with a S3 ViRGE, which was more of a decelerator. I remember trying out Mechwarior with it, at around 3 frames/sec.
My first real attempt was Voodoo 2 in SLI. I still have the Voodoo 2 cards, but I have no idea if they work. I also have a V5-5500 AGP and two V5-5500 PCI cards. I'm now tempted to try the V5-5500 PCI cards in some older hardware (Core 2 era) just to see if they work.
Nice to see new motherboards that still have PCI slots !
Awesome idea/video! Please also try the VM-variant you talked about. It sounds really interesting, since I would imagine there are a lot of problems with this configuration and Windows 98. That said there might be also a couple of really cool upsides. For example if one would use an older motherboard with more than one PCI-Slot, this could be used for a Multiplayer-Game over the virtual switch and everything runs on one machine.
I had this card also. I also eventually got the next model with SLI either before or after Nvidia bought them out.
Great. Now i need to buy that motherboard to tet out my voodoos!
Anyone over a certain age remembers spending every cent they had at the time for a Voodoo 2....sweet memories :)
I love shit like this, man. Vintage computing is my jam. I'd love to see the Win98 VM video. My first ever GPU was technically whatever was in my mom's Digital HiNote laptop from 1997-98 (very hard to find info on that thing). The first desktop GPU I ever had was the Riva TNT2, 16MB model, in our family Compaq Presario around 2000. Still have that card!
The Windows 98 VM video is already up!
3dfx is the father of gpus.. Very interesting and Gold content right here.
I used this to play everquest on launch! Good shit
I remember using the voodoo graphics in my family’s Gateway Select
Edit: I looked and it’s a Voodoo 3 Velocity
this was my first 3d card and wow it blew me away in quake 2 when i enabled 3dfx option in game,good times😊
Quick tip, to access the recovery menu quicker you can hold shift and click restart in the start menu.
I also had a 200mmx and voodoo cards back in the day, last version was the voodoo 3500 i think
12 m 21 s
UT99 ! Still play it this day!! From release on the 1st 3 years I put easily 1k hours into it !
More of this, please !
This was my first card as well. I remember playing Goldeneye for N64 with an emulator and using Glide. There was some sort of fog effect that was present that I've never seen since with the other graphics APIs.
I think it was their 16bit Z-Buffer that did that from memory
@@GearSeekers It seemed to be an atmospheric effect not even reproducible with Glide wrappers.
Awesome 👍 I think my first Voodoo card was the 3DFX Voodoo 3 2000 which did both the 2D & 3D in a single card (I think), and Unreal Tournament was one of the games I spent most time playing along with StarCraft & C&C 😁
I remember that NFS Porsche Unleashed worked well with Voodo cars. I played it on Pentium 2 233, that was amazing.
My first experience was Voodoo 1 native dos glide EF2000 - Blew me away especially after visiting an Air Show with something similar! They were probably running Quantum3D AAlchemy setup for their EF2000 Simulator. Essentially the same VSA-100 chips, just more of them. Very Scalable.
There are a few new motherboards that have PCI slots. I got 2 AM4 boards with PCI slots. Even finding boards with ISA slots can be found.
A new glide wrapper, nope, a glide unwrapper.
I still have a pair of Voodoo2s in a drawer waiting for the right rig, and some minor repair (some "pins" along the edge of the chips are bent together)
I last used them in a socket 775 rig along with a 9600gt and an ati rage 128 aiw card in an agp slot. It was the ASRock 4coredual-vsta motherboard
I ran my Voodoo2 fed by my Matrox Millennium (G200 8MB I think it was) at 1024x768, which was the highest resolution my 14" monitor supported, using the OpenGL driver. It was an awesome card to run up until I got a new 19" monitor and my GeForce 256 DDR a couple years later. Played a boatload of UT and Quake 2. Woooo, nostalgia.
Cool, I still have a voodoo 1.
Would this work with a PCI sound blaster and game port to use old controllers?
I don't suppose you have a Logitech Cyberman?
Jazz Multimedia Adrenaline Rush was my first, from Sunnyvale Computer super store that fizzled out in early 2000.
Yup, still have my Voodoo 2, still works, brings back memories, had to use Scumm Qemm to manage memory, what was it, 584k, 640k, limits, had to be manipulated in DOS to get some of the old non windows titles to run! Was a good part of the fun just getting some of the old stuff to run! Was so cool when I upgraded from 300 baud to my Hayes 1200 ultramodem! then came good old USRobotics modems! LOL, now I'm on multigig fiber....
Yeah, I remember playing unreal tournament a lot right out of college. Good times. My young wife was almost a widow right out the gate. 🙂
Back then there was also Matrox.
As the Voodoo2 was a 3D accelerator, you still needed a 2D card.
I actually had 2 12MB Voodoo2's, great days. Today I couldn't afford any of this.
PS: the days when you could overclock a Celeron 300MHz to 450MHz - no problem ...
Matrox didn't really do 3D properly until the Parhelia and that was after the downfall of 3dfx ;)
@@GearSeekers I think I had a Matrox G250 (or something like that) and it came bundled with Ultimate Race Pro and Incoming, but yeah basically just used it as 2D accelerator and the Voodoos did the 3D work ...
I still have a Voodoo 5 5500 AGP I purchased new back in June of 2000. Sadly no one seems to make a reliable AGP to PCI-E adapter for it, and pretty much most of my old gear is gone.
I may still have a old voodoo card in storage maybe even that one
👀
I got a 6600GT that I have in storage that I'm probably going to use with a VM passthrough setup for Windows 98 and XP games. It's neat seeing people try this. I had some luck passing through a 6900XT and getting basic video (no GPU acceleration, low color accuracy) with a Windows 98 and XP VM on Linux. I should probably also get a period accurate Sound Blaster card to accompany it.
Windows 98 virtualization with GPU passthrough would be really cool to see!
I had a TNT2 PCI running on a AMDK6. Sometimes at 800x600 it'd get to 20fps playing Half Life. I wish I'd hung on to it for posterity sake.
I still have a Voodoo 2 and one or two of Voodoo 3 somewhere ... 😃
I remember my dad taking me to CompUSA to pick up a Voodoo3 2000 AGP like it was yesterday lol
Finally, the CPU is no longer the limiting factor.😀
Have you thought about trying a VGA to displayport adaptor?
Thanks for yet another reminder that I’m old as shit.
It's okay. I'm old too
Old is good 🥰
You should do the Linux experiment. I would love to see the driver signing video.
There are actually a lot modern boards that will technically work with old cards. They're normally designed for industrial applications. Your issue will be finding drivers.
Yeah I mentioned that too. They are usually geared towards Linux also.
it was a passthrough system, 3d accelerator. we thought it was so badass back then.