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My 8 year old is super academic and was getting ignored at the public school - she was super bored and becoming disengaged. We sent her to private school and wow - what a massive difference - she comes home super happy with the challenges she's been given and the opportunities for extension. It's brilliant! As for keeping up with the Jones' and turning out a snob - you're the parent! It's your job to make sure you're not raising a snob! If your kid is academic, it's worth sending them private. If your child is more interested in trades/beauty/hair etc send them to a good public school, save up the money and help them set up a business after their training.
For me its the reverse I used to go in a public school in "the hood" and it was kind of fun people were more funny and hype we used to do rap at lunch laugh at the kids sagging their pants and stuff, teachers were chill.But now I go to a prestigious private high school and I dont like it, kids there cant take a simple joke, lunch is kind of boring and there is no basketball court, this might sound racist but like I think the fact that a lot of them are white suburbian kids make them kind of boring, basically they act like the stereotypical white person.
@vonelgamer3071 I get what you mean - my daughter used to dig up clay at her old school to design her own pottery creations. She climbed trees and ran 'shops' during recess and lunchtime. They don't do any of that at the private school and yes the kids are more 'boring' with their games - it's a very 'white' school in a wealthy area so there's definitely a lack of diversity and multicultural flare. Every school has good and not-so-good aspects, but overall, my daughter is loving the new school. We just make sure that we get out on the weekends so she can play in the dirt and climb trees and do what she likes. Luckily we're not too far from the old school so we still catch up with her friends from there.
yep very good points and agree - ultimately I'll have 10x the impact on them than school. Good to hear you've had a good experience with private - we're definitely considering it (pending getting in).
I agree, the transgender agenda creeping in is scary! no kids should be exposed to such ideology at an early age. I don't think snobby comes from school but from home, the values are set at home.
Great video to start discussion. I went through this decision just now for my daughter. I had her accepted into 3 private schools, but she sat the selective exams and got into one of the top 5 schools in NSW (selective school). She decided she wanted to go to the selective school. My son goes to one of the private schools. I think the big advantage of private schools is the quality of the teachers and the more focus on students which you mention. In terms of making money from the network I think it happens but is over-rated. I am a high-earning professional with my own business and while I network with other parents, it doesn't really generate any new business. My biggest concern of private schools is it can be snobby and catty amongst the students but even more amongst the parents. It really comes down to your own insecurity and whether you care about the wealth of the other parents.
Great insights thanks - well done to her for getting into a selective school. Good to know about making money from the network, might not materialise as I expect. See how we go. Yeah I don’t want to be apart of any gossip type groups, life is too short for low level stuff like that. Hopefully we get in and he can make the most of it! He could equally just waste his time there haha
In private school you learn all the unwritten codes that mean that you don't stick out like a sore thumb in upper class circles later in life. You also make contacts that last a lifetime. My opinion.
I attended a public high school that my parents chose for me, even though I didn't want to. Personally, I aspired to attend a more prestigious public high school where many students were described as 'snobs' by my family. I ended up going to the school my parents chose, which led me into a deep depression. I disliked the building, the teachers, and the students. I struggled to make friends and couldn't focus on my studies. Even though it wasn't my preferred school, it was still a good school. Eventually, I went on to a good university, though not in the major I wanted due to my struggles back then, where I now have a successful career. But I reached a point where I decided to stop trying to be the 'perfect daughter' and pursue what truly matters to me in life. After decades, I've managed to overcome my depression. With my career and lifestyle, I've become the 'snob' they always worried about. Even today, they continue to say hurtful things about me for being 'too high.' It seems that I never changed, and they never really liked me for who I am. I hope this serves as a reminder to truly understand your children, their desires, and what they value in life. Don't try to change them, because they won't change unless it's what they genuinely want.
Super interesting thanks for sharing - it sucks they didn’t support the direction you wanted to go in, I’m glad you still made something of your career in spite of that. Happens so often with parents pressuring people to go a certain route or be/stay a certain person. I’d distance myself from the family members making those comments, who needs that in your life? No thanks!
@raycorc Yes, you're right. I'm that classic story of children who stopped talking to their parents because our conversations always ended up in fights. As an adult, I'm still grieving over how our relationship turned out, and sometimes, I find it difficult to overcome this experience. I hope you find my experience helpful, and I wish you all the best! 😊🙏
@@raycorc I should so too Ray. The Public System would be hit and miss. I feel like it just comes to resources. Some public schools are under funded in my view and this leads to higher teacher to child ratios.
Oh nah I was just saying you have plenty of time to save for the school fees if the kid is young-ish My son is still a while off going so that makes it easier
younger years it probably doesn’t matter much. I went to private school for highschool however it was a relatively new school in qld. mostly kids of tradies who had made it good and fifo workers. basically complete upper middle bogan
yep I agree, I’ll send my kids to a decent public/catholic primary school around here. it’s crazy, some people I know locally are spending $15k a year on private primary school, insane Haha, yeah I think I’ll try to send my kids to private high school if I have the means, can’t hurt. I went to a regular school and it was hectic at times but fine too. Probably would have had a better ‘professional’ network if I had gone private
Yor figures are cheap. In South Australia it's $25,000 to high $40,0000s It is the conections that make a kid's job. " Old Bouy's Scool Tie " counts for EVERYTHING. If you want your son/ daughter to be a doctor, there's one here you go to.
It's not about status or the connections.I look at the eastern suburban high schools and the north eastern equivalent(this dates back to the 90s for me).The leadership at say Tyndale,Torrens Valley Christian,Kings Baptist and Pedare and even Hope Christian College(Ok that's Craigmore but still classifies as part of the map of schools between Hope Valley and Evanston/Gawler)from what I know is really good if not better than Your Concordia or Pembroke or other Yuppie Land Privates,Bullying is almost non existent(Really Rife and bad in the East)and the class sizes/groups are small enough(I have seen schools that have five to six classes per year level).
I went to private school for 10 years. A lot of pros and cons but it is definitely prestigious to say you went to private school like you drive a Mercedes over a Toyota although they both may perform exactly the same. One is badged nicer. In terms of networking in my career it’s only worth 1 or 2 “points” to say you went to private school. It’s just something that’s interesting to note. It does not in itself close a deal for eg. It’s more a conversation topic. Overall I would send my kids to private school if I had kids.
Great insights thanks - overall most people who went to a private school seem to speak favourably about it Definitely not a pre-requisite to do well, but I’m sure it can open doors
You are doing it wrong when u tell ppl u went to a private school lol. You will just come off as arrogant. You are supposed to use the connections you make with rich kids and friends who have made their way high up in the business world.
Yeah it can definitely be that much, depends on which private school Also depends on whether you do private for primary and secondary, or just secondary (some private schools in Sydney are $50k a year but secondary only, so often people will do local public for 6-7 years then go there)
Went to sydney grammar school. Waste of money imo. Just there for rich kids to build connections for multimillion business deals in that they'll be doing in the future.
Interesting thread.....You mentioned you went to a Catholic shcool prior to being expelled, 🙂. Well all Catholic Schools are technically private from the mainstream as well as is Christian Schools especially here in the NT....When you mention private schools having come from the UK are you refering to just those that you elect to pay and sent your child to on a daily basis or as in the old days like i was boarding school. I think personally all children can be taught, can be willing to learn, although you say we meet all walks of life in public schools as in working life, in private schools for the most we learn layers and where they fit in a society and based on a school tie and blazer does unfortunately look good on your resume. In the small echelons of jobs etc, if you happen to go to school at the same one as the MD or GM, it wages favourly...rightly or wrongly....paying to educate a child, does not me you can educate that child, but paying for education at a establishment unfortunately carrys weight in all circles.
Yeah the catholic school I went to was from memory like 2000 for a whole year or similar, the ones I mean are the fancy ones where you pay $35000+ a year I know in the uk public and private schools mean slightly different things to how Aussies would use it If a kid really wants to learn and get ahead they’ll do well anywhere Yeah it can be handy in certain corporate situations for sure
I went to a Catholic school in Sydney too and while it is "private" the school fees are similar to public schools. That is $2000 a year vs private schools of $30-40k per year
@@ozbanker yep I went to a catholic school and it sure felt the same as a public school haha, maybe catholic schools in nicer suburbs are more noticeably better
Might be good for early years learning but the teenagers stop giving a rats ass. Get to uni and crumble like a pack of cards coz they’ve had their ass wiped for too long.
Yep that is definitely real, I know a bunch of people who went to private school and they literally had life on easy mode for so long. Many of them had zero drive though, and why would you when you have everything..
@@raycorc the opposite of this is when the not so well to do parents sacrifice heaps to put their kid in a private school and they hound the kid on grades and homework and everything. Absolutely turns them off education. In the long term. I’m fairly successful (35, paid off mortgage, earn 100k plus) and I didn’t even finish high school and no one has ever asked me about high school in job interviews.
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My 8 year old is super academic and was getting ignored at the public school - she was super bored and becoming disengaged. We sent her to private school and wow - what a massive difference - she comes home super happy with the challenges she's been given and the opportunities for extension. It's brilliant! As for keeping up with the Jones' and turning out a snob - you're the parent! It's your job to make sure you're not raising a snob!
If your kid is academic, it's worth sending them private. If your child is more interested in trades/beauty/hair etc send them to a good public school, save up the money and help them set up a business after their training.
For me its the reverse I used to go in a public school in "the hood" and it was kind of fun people were more funny and hype we used to do rap at lunch laugh at the kids sagging their pants and stuff, teachers were chill.But now I go to a prestigious private high school and I dont like it, kids there cant take a simple joke, lunch is kind of boring and there is no basketball court, this might sound racist but like I think the fact that a lot of them are white suburbian kids make them kind of boring, basically they act like the stereotypical white person.
@vonelgamer3071 I get what you mean - my daughter used to dig up clay at her old school to design her own pottery creations. She climbed trees and ran 'shops' during recess and lunchtime. They don't do any of that at the private school and yes the kids are more 'boring' with their games - it's a very 'white' school in a wealthy area so there's definitely a lack of diversity and multicultural flare. Every school has good and not-so-good aspects, but overall, my daughter is loving the new school. We just make sure that we get out on the weekends so she can play in the dirt and climb trees and do what she likes. Luckily we're not too far from the old school so we still catch up with her friends from there.
yep very good points and agree - ultimately I'll have 10x the impact on them than school. Good to hear you've had a good experience with private - we're definitely considering it (pending getting in).
20 years ago, not much difference between schools. Today, absolutely worth private school, considering what's happening in public schools.
some of these curriculums are strange these days! i think I'll do it if money permits, see how we go
I agree, the transgender agenda creeping in is scary! no kids should be exposed to such ideology at an early age. I don't think snobby comes from school but from home, the values are set at home.
Great video to start discussion. I went through this decision just now for my daughter. I had her accepted into 3 private schools, but she sat the selective exams and got into one of the top 5 schools in NSW (selective school). She decided she wanted to go to the selective school. My son goes to one of the private schools. I think the big advantage of private schools is the quality of the teachers and the more focus on students which you mention. In terms of making money from the network I think it happens but is over-rated. I am a high-earning professional with my own business and while I network with other parents, it doesn't really generate any new business. My biggest concern of private schools is it can be snobby and catty amongst the students but even more amongst the parents. It really comes down to your own insecurity and whether you care about the wealth of the other parents.
Great insights thanks - well done to her for getting into a selective school. Good to know about making money from the network, might not materialise as I expect. See how we go. Yeah I don’t want to be apart of any gossip type groups, life is too short for low level stuff like that. Hopefully we get in and he can make the most of it! He could equally just waste his time there haha
In private school you learn all the unwritten codes that mean that you don't stick out like a sore thumb in upper class circles later in life. You also make contacts that last a lifetime. My opinion.
Yep the contacts are invaluable, can be a huge factor later in life
What a load of shit. Contacts might work for basic ass jobs but they ain’t cutting it in professional circles
Old School networks are real. Businessmen wear their school ties. I was stopped in Euston Station in adulthood when I was wearing my old school scarf.
That’s interesting, I’ve heard similar stories as well. A few people I know who went to private schools said the same
I attended a public high school that my parents chose for me, even though I didn't want to. Personally, I aspired to attend a more prestigious public high school where many students were described as 'snobs' by my family. I ended up going to the school my parents chose, which led me into a deep depression. I disliked the building, the teachers, and the students. I struggled to make friends and couldn't focus on my studies. Even though it wasn't my preferred school, it was still a good school. Eventually, I went on to a good university, though not in the major I wanted due to my struggles back then, where I now have a successful career. But I reached a point where I decided to stop trying to be the 'perfect daughter' and pursue what truly matters to me in life. After decades, I've managed to overcome my depression. With my career and lifestyle, I've become the 'snob' they always worried about. Even today, they continue to say hurtful things about me for being 'too high.' It seems that I never changed, and they never really liked me for who I am. I hope this serves as a reminder to truly understand your children, their desires, and what they value in life. Don't try to change them, because they won't change unless it's what they genuinely want.
Super interesting thanks for sharing - it sucks they didn’t support the direction you wanted to go in, I’m glad you still made something of your career in spite of that. Happens so often with parents pressuring people to go a certain route or be/stay a certain person. I’d distance myself from the family members making those comments, who needs that in your life? No thanks!
@raycorc Yes, you're right. I'm that classic story of children who stopped talking to their parents because our conversations always ended up in fights. As an adult, I'm still grieving over how our relationship turned out, and sometimes, I find it difficult to overcome this experience. I hope you find my experience helpful, and I wish you all the best! 😊🙏
Thanks very interesting video! I’m so grateful to be childfree and not have to make this type of decision. It’s hard being a parent!
We are on our way to Townsville and for a good private school it is about $7000K a year. We decided it was worth it in a regional setting.
That's very reasonably priced, sounds like a good call - especially if the public options locally aren't crash hot
@@raycorc I should so too Ray.
The Public System would be hit and miss. I feel like it just comes to resources. Some public schools are under funded in my view and this leads to higher teacher to child ratios.
@@dannyn6762 yep agree, I also think that by the time you actually have to pay for your kids high school you'll have more money for it anyway
@@raycorc how is that Ray? You mean by the time you pay for extra curriculum in terms of academic support?
Oh nah I was just saying you have plenty of time to save for the school fees if the kid is young-ish
My son is still a while off going so that makes it easier
younger years it probably doesn’t matter much. I went to private school for highschool however it was a relatively new school in qld. mostly kids of tradies who had made it good and fifo workers. basically complete upper middle bogan
yep I agree, I’ll send my kids to a decent public/catholic primary school around here. it’s crazy, some people I know locally are spending $15k a year on private primary school, insane
Haha, yeah I think I’ll try to send my kids to private high school if I have the means, can’t hurt. I went to a regular school and it was hectic at times but fine too. Probably would have had a better ‘professional’ network if I had gone private
@@raycorc i mean if you want to consider a good private option for young kids i’ve heard good things about steiner schools.
Yor figures are cheap. In South Australia it's $25,000 to high $40,0000s It is the conections that make a kid's job. " Old Bouy's Scool Tie " counts for EVERYTHING. If you want your son/ daughter to be a doctor, there's one here you go to.
Good to know, the connections would definitely be useful if they leveraged them right!
It's not about status or the connections.I look at the eastern suburban high schools and the north eastern equivalent(this dates back to the 90s for me).The leadership at say Tyndale,Torrens Valley Christian,Kings Baptist and Pedare and even Hope Christian College(Ok that's Craigmore but still classifies as part of the map of schools between Hope Valley and Evanston/Gawler)from what I know is really good if not better than Your Concordia or Pembroke or other Yuppie Land Privates,Bullying is almost non existent(Really Rife and bad in the East)and the class sizes/groups are small enough(I have seen schools that have five to six classes per year level).
I went to private school for 10 years. A lot of pros and cons but it is definitely prestigious to say you went to private school like you drive a Mercedes over a Toyota although they both may perform exactly the same. One is badged nicer. In terms of networking in my career it’s only worth 1 or 2 “points” to say you went to private school. It’s just something that’s interesting to note. It does not in itself close a deal for eg. It’s more a conversation topic. Overall I would send my kids to private school if I had kids.
Great insights thanks - overall most people who went to a private school seem to speak favourably about it
Definitely not a pre-requisite to do well, but I’m sure it can open doors
You are doing it wrong when u tell ppl u went to a private school lol. You will just come off as arrogant. You are supposed to use the connections you make with rich kids and friends who have made their way high up in the business world.
Isn’t private school like a $50,000AUD a year now? That’s over $650,000AUD for 13 years of compulsory schooling.
Yeah it can definitely be that much, depends on which private school
Also depends on whether you do private for primary and secondary, or just secondary (some private schools in Sydney are $50k a year but secondary only, so often people will do local public for 6-7 years then go there)
Went to sydney grammar school. Waste of money imo. Just there for rich kids to build connections for multimillion business deals in that they'll be doing in the future.
Very interesting
Definitely not cheap, you’d hope to get something solid out of it - wasted opportunity otherwise
Interesting thread.....You mentioned you went to a Catholic shcool prior to being expelled, 🙂. Well all Catholic Schools are technically private from the mainstream as well as is Christian Schools especially here in the NT....When you mention private schools having come from the UK are you refering to just those that you elect to pay and sent your child to on a daily basis or as in the old days like i was boarding school. I think personally all children can be taught, can be willing to learn, although you say we meet all walks of life in public schools as in working life, in private schools for the most we learn layers and where they fit in a society and based on a school tie and blazer does unfortunately look good on your resume. In the small echelons of jobs etc, if you happen to go to school at the same one as the MD or GM, it wages favourly...rightly or wrongly....paying to educate a child, does not me you can educate that child, but paying for education at a establishment unfortunately carrys weight in all circles.
Yeah the catholic school I went to was from memory like 2000 for a whole year or similar, the ones I mean are the fancy ones where you pay $35000+ a year
I know in the uk public and private schools mean slightly different things to how Aussies would use it
If a kid really wants to learn and get ahead they’ll do well anywhere
Yeah it can be handy in certain corporate situations for sure
I went to a Catholic school in Sydney too and while it is "private" the school fees are similar to public schools. That is $2000 a year vs private schools of $30-40k per year
@@ozbanker yep I went to a catholic school and it sure felt the same as a public school haha, maybe catholic schools in nicer suburbs are more noticeably better
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Might be good for early years learning but the teenagers stop giving a rats ass. Get to uni and crumble like a pack of cards coz they’ve had their ass wiped for too long.
Yep that is definitely real, I know a bunch of people who went to private school and they literally had life on easy mode for so long. Many of them had zero drive though, and why would you when you have everything..
@@raycorc the opposite of this is when the not so well to do parents sacrifice heaps to put their kid in a private school and they hound the kid on grades and homework and everything. Absolutely turns them off education. In the long term.
I’m fairly successful (35, paid off mortgage, earn 100k plus) and I didn’t even finish high school and no one has ever asked me about high school in job interviews.