I love this game and play it to this day for the following reasons: 1)beautiful, bright, realistic stages- the beach, airport, rooftop, parking lot,mall,dojo, lab, jungle,Tokyo street, fight club. They are 3-4 huge stages 2)amazingly good music-90% of the soundtrack is excellent with beach, airport,dojo,jungle themes at the top 3)the pace is actually a merit over previous and subsequent Tekkens- it's not as slow as T2 but not ridiculously fast as in T6 and T7. It gives you time to move around, execute different moves and enjoy your fight instead of quickly mushing buttons. You move around, switch places with your opponent, take advantage of the uneven terrain, jump off walls 4)there is maybe 1 overpowered move, which gives you a fair chance of winning with everyone while in T5 there are many overpowered moves that take almost a 3rd of your lifebar and are easy to abuse, which leads to rounds being over in 5 seconds. Examples? Lei's double jump kick, Nina's ->o xo ->o, Law's
Egon Jensen I agree, its not like Tekken was a big game in the Evo tourneys, and it isnt like the previous tekkens werent broken, eg, tekken 1 and 2 had full health combos, usually ending the match in 5 seconds.
Tekken 4 had the best art direction of the series, the costumes are all fashionable, diaper included of course, the levels where nice looking, the even feel connected as if they’re close to each other, music was bomb, Art was lit. I love tekken 4 for that inspire of the gameplay and lower character count.
Oh yeah for sure. I kinda prefer Tekken 2's overall 90s Japan Business Casual aesthetic, but it doesn't actually show up much outside of the FMVs. 4 though, is perfectly stylized all over, and 5 onward feels too gaudy/silly for me.
InvestedGman I’ve heard them and I believe that they just had the announcer record as many old characters and alternate names as possible to have in case they added anyone rather than any of the character being planned, ie eddy was added in the ps2 version
Always thought this game was underrated... What it lacks in speed and all that shit, it makes up for with personality in my opinion. What you think of all the new announcements about the Switch? Looks like its gonna be the console for farting out obscure Japanese games, new Shin Megami Tensai game coming for it tooo... Which is kinda cool I suppose.
Much like the last two Ninty consoles, I dig the potential it has, and the idea of a No More Heroes 3 is pretty cool too. But, considering I can count all the Wii & Wii U games I actually like on two hands, I'm still skeptical as to whether or not it'll live up to that potential. So I don't think I'll be getting it on launch or anything. But if it gets cool games (like more weird shit which should be easier and less costly to develop with it being a bit lower spec) then'll totes pick one up. Love the design in any case. Looks cool!
ThorHighHeels not to mention it's got rid of region lock, the games will be even easy to get hold of as well. I think if they was to market it as a handheld console/tablet and put features like Netflix and Facebook ect with the added bonus of full blown Nintendo games they could be big competition in the iPad market. But advertising as a console that can double up as hand held could be bad for them because it automatically is held up against the ps4 and Xbox one which blow it out of the water power and games wise, not to mention already over 3 years in to there lifespan.
Tekken 4 and 5 are by far my favourite Tekken games of the Franchise. Especially Tekken 4 is sourly the most unique and underrated (mostly because of the choices that hindered the competitive scene) but it is my favorite Tekken to date, because of the very seriousness Vibes of the Story aspects perspective. The seriousness atmosphere of Tekken 4 it's on another level in my opinion. The soundtrack is what gets me the most next to the game's atmosphere. With soundtracks like: Fetus(Prologue), Authentic Sky, Unihabited(Mall Area) Didgerhythm(Jungle Area) Touch and Go(Airport Area) and Kitsch(Beach Area) and The Inner Shrine(Hon-Maru Temple) and others soundtracks, For me Tekken 4 remains even in these days the most Unique Tekken game of the series. ☯️
I knoooooooooooooooow. Not sure if I should play it or not though. I mean, I know it's a prequel, but I have yet to play Y4 & 5. Or do you think it's okay to play 0 before 4?
I'd say keep going as you did with release order for now, might take longer to get to the current ones, but youll be able to appreciate the improvements more
Cool cool. That's what I was wondering about pretty much. Considering Y1 felt like the slowest game ever after 2, I wouldn't want to ruin 4 & 5 by playing 0 first.
I think 5 is probably the best one in the series gameplay wise. I still go back it, or the PSP version, every once and a while, and it still feels REALLY fucking good to play. Though my personal favorite remains Tekken 2 for nostalgic reasons. As for Tag, I still like it, but looking back at it, it feels more like a slightly less interesting version of Tekken 3. Also Tag 2 shits all over it in my opinion. I tried playing it not to long ago, and while I loved the soundtrack and style, it didn't keep my intrest for very long.
Tekken 4 was extremely popular and most of the fanbase enjoyed Tekken 4 and its approach to the darker and more serious approach they took with some character.
Really?? The time the game got released, lots of proplayers and veterans got salty and said the game was bad. And now after 19 years people are suddenly starting to love the game?!?!
In my opinion the game was awesome. The story was good and gameplay was also fun. But most of the tekken community at the time of tekken 4 release just said 'meh!'
(Thicc comment warning) While Tekken 4 has a great atmosphere, an insane attention to detail, and is fun in it's own right, it's fundamentally flawed as a fighting game. Being able to move before the match starts, combined with the bad wallsplat mechanic/uneven terrain of the stages, turns the game into "See who could get to the hill with a wonky hitbox first so I could stunlock my opponent." Characters like Steve and Lee take full advantage of this, with Steve's high damage output and hit-stun, and Lee's fast jabs and godlike Mist Step. Jin is on a whole other level though. His moveset has a lot of low risk pokes with decent damage output, which already makes him great in a poking-centered game. One of said pokes is his Laser Scraper, which turns Jin from an already strong character, to a busted one. It's a 3-hit natural combo thats completely safe on block, and does a good chunk of damage. But the thing that makes it so good is that it becomes unblockable when you hold the button. The gap in power with Jin, Steve, Lee --- compared to the rest of the cast, is massive, making everyone else almost obsolete. Now, that isn't to say that the other characters aren't fun to play, but when it comes to Tekken *especially when your serious about it* it's "know frames or die." That doesn't mean that Tekken 4 is a bad videogame, it's actually my 2nd favorite behind DR. It evolved the series in a ton of aspects, but it's just that the core of the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
I started playing competitively in Tekken Tag, so by T4 I was considered a "veteran". That being said, I loved T4 for what it was. It was an ambitious Tekken with urban flair. I loved how realistic they tried getting with the voice acting, language barriers, actual places people might fight, and the chillest yet hypest music ever. In terms of speed, I thought T4 was faster than T2, T3 or TTT, but like you said, they had to do this for the close-quarter stages. And although they lacked CGI endings, we got more fleshed out endings which most of them took very seriously. I would choose T4's arcade experience and endings over T7 any day. All in all, T5 definitely set the tone for the rest of the series, but without T4 there may have never been walls in Tekken or an emphasis on juggling. And out of all of the Tekkens, T4's atmosphere is the top for me and apparently for a lot of people.
That's one great thing i fucking love in you, dude. You manage to find good things and just enjoy games that most of others would fucking hate due to any other reason they have. Overall, i can really associate myself with you and your opinions, which is a rarity for me. Thanks for everything, dood.
Tekken 4 is the best Tekken game ever! - Amazing character stories, unlike Tekken 7. - Alot of single player modes including Tekken force. - Beautiful looking stages.
What the hell are you talking about? 5 had the most contents of the series to date. 3 arcade ports of TK1-3, character customization, a FULLY functional Tekken Force with unlockables and easy way to farm money (Unlock permanent Devil Jin or Devil mode in Devil within) both Story Mode and Ranking Arcade battle. Also, the Starblade port built inside the game as well. Tekken 5 gameplay went back Tekken 3 but with the engine of Tekken 4 hence made the game 10x better. What I don't like was the throw, throw also part of the character charm and yet it reduced to a FREAKING SIDE CHANGE. 5 had all of 4 content with more stuffs as well.
It's not my favorite in the series, but it's a very close 3rd, sure, it's probably the most unbalanced game in the Tekken series since Tekken 3, but it's the most atmospheric game in the series, with it's darker toned storyline, deep and stylistic design (the best in the series in my opinion) and probably the best composed soundtrack in the series, also it has quite a lot of single player content which is always a plus for me.
Unpopular opinion, but probably my favourite in the series. The game that made me buy a PS2, coming right of the Tekken 3 craze, I'll never forget the awesome feeling of playing the sequel for the first time. I love the story, the atmosphere, the stylish vibe and the awesome music. The roster of characters isn't the most extensive one, but I think it's perfect for what it is. A major complaint I have with the recent entries is that while the rosters are insane, they're mostly bloated with clones and generic characters. Tekken 4 is a more contained, small roster but at least each character is unique. Combot is the only exception, and the few characters with the same moveset are palette swaps that don't even show up in the select screen. Now the gameplay. Yeah, I agree that Tekken 4 is not the fastest in the series, but I have no problems with the pace of it. Slower also means less button mashing. That, combined with the cage type stages and the switch move makes this game the most strategic in the series. And the last one to dare in implementing some meaningful changes to the core gameplay. Tekken 5 is Tekken 3 on steroids and I've never been a fan of rage systems that reward suckage. On a side note, it was the last one to feature a decent Tekken Force into the mix. And what better reward for beating it than the awesome Hon-Maru stage? I know that some people liked the Devil Within thing in Tekken 5, but I found it tedious at best. And you can unlock Devil Jin by playing the Story Mode anyway, so...
It's probably my least favorite Tekken. It's either that or Tekken 6. But judging from the gameplay footage with all of the cutscene triggered super moves, Tekken 7 may be my least favorite. I'm sorry, but I don't think that super moves belong in a Tekken game. Just because every fighter has them, doesn't mean Tekken needs them.
I could never get into 6 either. With 7, I still don't know what to think honestly. It looks good imo, but I can't imagine the roster holding up against Tag 2's.
That’s my favorite tekken it looks great the models are diverse and the stages are the best ever we would spend a lot of time navigating them and doing crazy combos
Wish tekken 4 and 5 had xbox ports... I'm not saying that the PS2 ports suck but in my opinion those 2 games could've been more legandary than they are now.
i still dont get why people hate on tekken 4 and i still never will 😂 the only thing people could make a case for in tekken 4 is that you could get hit on a wall now. well ok than lol guess everyone better start giving the other tekkens afterwards a negative review as well. ALSO, im sure people loved to be juggled more thanks to tekkens 6’s new mechanic where the person bounces on the floor to get juggled more. i actually love all the tekken games but 4 and 5 are by far in my opinion the most balanced and fairest of the tekken games and my personal favorite
it might just be me but Tekken 4 is definitely the fastest feeling Tekken from a gameplay perspective. It's ridiculously quick with it's movements compared to Tekken 3
as for main series Tekken always became better. After playing Tekken 3 it was impossible to return to Tekken 2 because of Z-axis. With TTT because of characters. Tekken 4 - mechanics + graphics\design. 5 - characters + moves. 6 - mechanics + moves + characters. TTT2 - characters + combos T7 - mechanics + moves + combos + characters + customizations + mods
the only slightly strange behaviour I would like Namco to consider is with mobile devices. When Tekken came to mobile it was possible to play Tekken for gba through emulator, which was tremendously better. Same with Soul Calibur for mobiles. And same is for Tekken for iOS/Android with psp emulator. I hope they already know all of this and exactly that is why last two Ridge Racer games had updated/innovative mechanics
Tekken 4 and 5 are my favourite Tekken games of the Franchise. ☯️ By the way Tekken 4 had the best story and atmosphere no doubt. Also my favourite Tekken Intros of the series are 4 and 5. Especially Tekken 4, developers did a lot of things incredibly right, most storylines were incredibly cool and the atmosphere and seriousness was just on a another level. I don't think most would disagree that Tekken 4 had a great"everything-except-the-fighting" to it. Great and Epic soundtracks, unique character designs, good individual stories, and an interesting main Mishima arc revival. The thing is that it's still a fighting game and no matter how great everything else is, if the fighting bit is flawed it'll overshadow the positives. ☯️✌
One small nitpick about your comment on the gameplay differences between Tekken 4 and the older titles. Tekken 4 was hated for the exact opposite of what you stated. The previous Tekken games had a non existent poking game(at a top competitive level). Considering that the top tiers of those games where dominated by characters with great movement, solid whiff punishers, and juggles were basically everything. In Tekken 4, they heavily nerfed movement (you cant side step only sidewalk) and focused on a poke heavy style gameplay and gutted juggles (they increased the pushback of the juggles and gravity, making combos very limited). Characters like Steve,Jin, and Nina basically bullied the entire cast while Kazuya, a character built on movement and strong launchers. Was kneecaped hard. Making him a pretty subpar counter hit style character and his iconic launching electric wind godfist into a counterhit only launcher. basically made it useless. Among countless other things.
(Thicc comment warning) While Tekken 4 has a great atmosphere, an insane attention to detail, and is fun in it's own right, it's fundamentally flawed as a fighting game. Being able to move before the match starts, combined with the bad wallsplat mechanic/uneven terrain of the stages, turns the game into "See who could get to the hill with a wonky hitbox first so I could stunlock him." Characters like Steve and Lee take full advantage of this, with Steve's high damage output and hit-stun, and Lee's fast jabs and godlike Mist Step. Jin is on a whole other level though. His moveset has a lot of low risk pokes with decent damage output, which already makes him great in a poking-centered game. One of said pokes is his Laser Scraper, which turns Jin from an already strong character, to a busted one. It's a 3-hit natural combo thats completely safe on block, and does a good chunk of damage. But the thing that makes it so good is that it becomes unblockable when you hold the button. The gap in power with Jin, Steve, Lee --- compared to the rest of the cast, is massive, making everyone else almost obsolete. Now, that isn't to say that the other characters aren't fun to play, but when it comes to Tekken *especially when your serious about it* it's "know frames or die." That doesn't mean that Tekken 4 is a bad videogame, it's actually my 2nd favorite behind DR. It evolved the series in a ton of aspects, but it's just that the core of the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
@@MegaTroySmith I do know that. And yes they are more realistic arenas than the games after it, they feel like real places that are lived in (Airport, Parking Lot, and Laboratory are my favourites) they're the reason why I still return to T4. But as a gameplay mechanic, they're just broken. I would really like to see Bamco return to uneven terrain, because Tekken needs a breath of fresh air and DOA has shown that those kinds of stages can be done right.
You should totally remake this review Thor - after your liminal Spaces video, Tekken 4 arena locations really are in the same alley (see what I did there).
Oh, I think you've forgot to mention about the position change. I've only played this tekken once at a Dave and Busters (wow), and I tried to do a throw but Julia just goes moves behind the other guy. What?
sorry I took it down. I ended up disagreeing with and disliking a lot of what I did and said in those videos over time. normally I wouldn't take something down over that, but my next video will talk about a ton of similar things And is a huge fighting game extravaganza. and I didn't like the idea of ppl going from that video to the telken retrospective, as youtube is likely to recommend it as such, so I set it to private. at least for the time being.
Tekken 4 was one of my personal favorite do to nostalgia it was the first fighting game i ever played and i fucking loved every bit of it i cant even imagine the amount of time i sunk into it
Favorite Tekken to look at and listen but I'd rather play the games in-between them being Tag 1 and 5/DR. I think it's above average for what it tries to do I suppose. Not bad. But not amazing which is okay.
But I do think the non-flat stage construction in a traditional fighter is interesting. The only other example I can think of is VF3 which I'm not too familiar with how that fanbase rolls since I'm more or less a new fan but the buzz around 3 from comments and a discord seems to be a love it/hate it thing mostly.
I thought 4 was the best of the series, they tried new things, 5 was a step back, "more of the same". They should have polished 4's innovations instead of just removing them and going back to the same ol same old.
I've actually been playing through all the Tekken games back to back this week and I kind of agree. Tekken 5 was just 3 again but a bit better. And since then, all Tekken games have just been 5 only with some things added and some things taken away, never really getting better or worse as a whole. It's stagnated I guess. That said though, while 4 is certainly different, I'm afraid I just don't really enjoy how it plays. Then again, Tekken 1 and 2 aren't exactly amazing either in retrospect, and they did stick with that formula and made it work. So who knows, where it could've gone had they'd built upon 4..
Tekken 4 was my first Tekken game I played then I played Tekken 5 over my friends house honestly I enjoyed 4 over 5 and Tekken 6 could’ve been better Tekken 7 I personally really enjoy
Did they retcon some of the characters ages? If the events of Tekken 4 were 20 years later from Tekken 1 and 3 shouldn't characters like Xiayou be a lot older now in Tekken 7?
Not at all. Tekken 3 takes place 18 years after Tekken 2 and Tekken 4 takes place 2 years after that. The reason the intro says 20 years later is because Tekken 2 was Kazuya's last chronological appearance before 4 reintroduced him. As for Xiaoyu she was 16 in Tekken 3 and 18 from 4 to 7.
Tekken 4 was a solid 3.15 stars and If it wasn't a tekken game. people would have liked it.(Maybe) As a tekken it sucked but as a fighting game it's good. Edit: over powered Chacters sucked though
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I love this game and play it to this day for the following reasons:
1)beautiful, bright, realistic stages- the beach, airport, rooftop, parking lot,mall,dojo, lab, jungle,Tokyo street, fight club. They are 3-4 huge stages
2)amazingly good music-90% of the soundtrack is excellent with beach, airport,dojo,jungle themes at the top
3)the pace is actually a merit over previous and subsequent Tekkens- it's not as slow as T2 but not ridiculously fast as in T6 and T7. It gives you time to move around, execute different moves and enjoy your fight instead of quickly mushing buttons. You move around, switch places with your opponent, take advantage of the uneven terrain, jump off walls
4)there is maybe 1 overpowered move, which gives you a fair chance of winning with everyone while in T5 there are many overpowered moves that take almost a 3rd of your lifebar and are easy to abuse, which leads to rounds being over in 5 seconds. Examples? Lei's double jump kick, Nina's ->o xo ->o, Law's
T4 is the VF3 of the Tekken series....
Budgie Cat damn, budgie. I never thought i'd see you here.
Egon Jensen I agree, its not like Tekken was a big game in the Evo tourneys, and it isnt like the previous tekkens werent broken, eg, tekken 1 and 2 had full health combos, usually ending the match in 5 seconds.
Egon Jensen me too
Tekken 4 had the best art direction of the series, the costumes are all fashionable, diaper included of course, the levels where nice looking, the even feel connected as if they’re close to each other, music was bomb, Art was lit. I love tekken 4 for that inspire of the gameplay and lower character count.
Oh yeah for sure. I kinda prefer Tekken 2's overall 90s Japan Business Casual aesthetic, but it doesn't actually show up much outside of the FMVs. 4 though, is perfectly stylized all over, and 5 onward feels too gaudy/silly for me.
They had more characters planned in the Sound files but I don’t know why they didn’t add them.
InvestedGman I’ve heard them and I believe that they just had the announcer record as many old characters and alternate names as possible to have in case they added anyone rather than any of the character being planned, ie eddy was added in the ps2 version
the diaper makes sense from a characher point of view, obviously to us it looks silly but when you think about it its preeeetyyy sickkkkkk
Always thought this game was underrated... What it lacks in speed and all that shit, it makes up for with personality in my opinion.
What you think of all the new announcements about the Switch?
Looks like its gonna be the console for farting out obscure Japanese games, new Shin Megami Tensai game coming for it tooo... Which is kinda cool I suppose.
Much like the last two Ninty consoles, I dig the potential it has, and the idea of a No More Heroes 3 is pretty cool too. But, considering I can count all the Wii & Wii U games I actually like on two hands, I'm still skeptical as to whether or not it'll live up to that potential. So I don't think I'll be getting it on launch or anything. But if it gets cool games (like more weird shit which should be easier and less costly to develop with it being a bit lower spec) then'll totes pick one up. Love the design in any case. Looks cool!
ThorHighHeels not to mention it's got rid of region lock, the games will be even easy to get hold of as well. I think if they was to market it as a handheld console/tablet and put features like Netflix and Facebook ect with the added bonus of full blown Nintendo games they could be big competition in the iPad market. But advertising as a console that can double up as hand held could be bad for them because it automatically is held up against the ps4 and Xbox one which blow it out of the water power and games wise, not to mention already over 3 years in to there lifespan.
If you live in the PAL region and set it to 60hz it plays pretty well.
Tekken 4 and 5 are by far my favourite Tekken games of the Franchise. Especially Tekken 4 is sourly the most unique and underrated (mostly because of the choices that hindered the competitive scene) but it is my favorite Tekken to date, because of the very seriousness Vibes of the Story aspects perspective. The seriousness atmosphere of Tekken 4 it's on another level in my opinion. The soundtrack is what gets me the most next to the game's atmosphere. With soundtracks like: Fetus(Prologue), Authentic Sky, Unihabited(Mall Area) Didgerhythm(Jungle Area) Touch and Go(Airport Area) and Kitsch(Beach Area) and The Inner Shrine(Hon-Maru Temple) and others soundtracks, For me Tekken 4 remains even in these days the most Unique Tekken game of the series. ☯️
Another great and funny review maiiiine!
Yakuza Zero is out soon! HNNNNNNNNNGGGHH!!!!!!
I knoooooooooooooooow. Not sure if I should play it or not though. I mean, I know it's a prequel, but I have yet to play Y4 & 5. Or do you think it's okay to play 0 before 4?
ThorHighHeels 0 doesn't connect at all with the storyline as a whole except for the original. I say go for it
I've only ever played Yakuza 2 and i loved it. I don't have a PS3 so i never played 3 and 4 but i'm going to pick it up because it looks awesome.
I'd say keep going as you did with release order for now, might take longer to get to the current ones, but youll be able to appreciate the improvements more
Cool cool. That's what I was wondering about pretty much. Considering Y1 felt like the slowest game ever after 2, I wouldn't want to ruin 4 & 5 by playing 0 first.
I thought tekken 4 had the best gameplay in the series
That's debatable.
But that aside, Tekken 4 has everything I wanted in a Tekken game (maybe just add few more characters and balance the mechanics)
Opinions on 5 and Tag Tournament?
I think 5 is probably the best one in the series gameplay wise. I still go back it, or the PSP version, every once and a while, and it still feels REALLY fucking good to play. Though my personal favorite remains Tekken 2 for nostalgic reasons.
As for Tag, I still like it, but looking back at it, it feels more like a slightly less interesting version of Tekken 3. Also Tag 2 shits all over it in my opinion. I tried playing it not to long ago, and while I loved the soundtrack and style, it didn't keep my intrest for very long.
Good old days when tekken games used to have shitload of content before they jumped the guns with tekken 6 and 7
I use too like Tekken 4 as a kid but I figure like they should have added more characters like baek Doo San ganryu Anna Williams in their
Round 🐔 Fight!!!
I only played Tekken 5 and Tag Tournament so this game did not matter to me lol. Story mode looks interesting tho
Tekken 4 was extremely popular and most of the fanbase enjoyed Tekken 4 and its approach to the darker and more serious approach they took with some character.
Really?? The time the game got released, lots of proplayers and veterans got salty and said the game was bad.
And now after 19 years people are suddenly starting to love the game?!?!
In my opinion the game was awesome. The story was good and gameplay was also fun. But most of the tekken community at the time of tekken 4 release just said 'meh!'
(Thicc comment warning)
While Tekken 4 has a great atmosphere, an insane attention to detail, and is fun in it's own right, it's fundamentally flawed as a fighting game.
Being able to move before the match starts, combined with the bad wallsplat mechanic/uneven terrain of the stages, turns the game into "See who could get to the hill with a wonky hitbox first so I could stunlock my opponent."
Characters like Steve and Lee take full advantage of this, with Steve's high damage output and hit-stun, and Lee's fast jabs and godlike Mist Step.
Jin is on a whole other level though. His moveset has a lot of low risk pokes with decent damage output, which already makes him great in a poking-centered game. One of said pokes is his Laser Scraper, which turns Jin from an already strong character, to a busted one. It's a 3-hit natural combo thats completely safe on block, and does a good chunk of damage. But the thing that makes it so good is that it becomes unblockable when you hold the button.
The gap in power with Jin, Steve, Lee --- compared to the rest of the cast, is massive, making everyone else almost obsolete. Now, that isn't to say that the other characters aren't fun to play, but when it comes to Tekken *especially when your serious about it* it's "know frames or die." That doesn't mean that Tekken 4 is a bad videogame, it's actually my 2nd favorite behind DR. It evolved the series in a ton of aspects, but it's just that the core of the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
Long story short without fighting lingo, jin kazama has a really good uppercut. Like why the fuck would use anyone else good.
Windawaker was ICONIC lol
Tekken 5 was better!
indeed it was :)
Hmmmmm Tekken Force Mode. The guilty pleasure of the PS2 era
So much fun. So, so much.
Guilty pleasure the fuck you mean the mode was great I loved playing as king and then I gaint swing and then everyone around me flys it’s awesome
Difficulties in Tekken 4:
Easy
Normal
Hard
Very hard
Ultra hard
TEKKEN FORCE
Tekken force came out with tekken 3 on ps1
It ain't no guilty pleasure
I started playing competitively in Tekken Tag, so by T4 I was considered a "veteran". That being said, I loved T4 for what it was. It was an ambitious Tekken with urban flair. I loved how realistic they tried getting with the voice acting, language barriers, actual places people might fight, and the chillest yet hypest music ever.
In terms of speed, I thought T4 was faster than T2, T3 or TTT, but like you said, they had to do this for the close-quarter stages. And although they lacked CGI endings, we got more fleshed out endings which most of them took very seriously. I would choose T4's arcade experience and endings over T7 any day.
All in all, T5 definitely set the tone for the rest of the series, but without T4 there may have never been walls in Tekken or an emphasis on juggling. And out of all of the Tekkens, T4's atmosphere is the top for me and apparently for a lot of people.
this game and tekken tag 1 are the best hands down the soundtracks man
*Jin:* "All women...are queens."
*Hworang:* "If she breathes...she's A THOOOOOOOOT!!!"
Jin >
I loved tekken 4 😂
That's one great thing i fucking love in you, dude.
You manage to find good things and just enjoy games that most of others would fucking hate due to any other reason they have.
Overall, i can really associate myself with you and your opinions, which is a rarity for me. Thanks for everything, dood.
No problem my dude! Glad you like it so much haha
What I love about the tekken series pre gen 7 is that every entry has it's own unique style in terms of graphics, ui, music and even gameplay.
I think tekken 4 isn't that bad. I know all the problems of this game and i agree with you guys but it's a nice tekken game.
Tekken 4 is the best Tekken game ever!
- Amazing character stories, unlike Tekken 7.
- Alot of single player modes including Tekken force.
- Beautiful looking stages.
What the hell are you talking about? 5 had the most contents of the series to date. 3 arcade ports of TK1-3, character customization, a FULLY functional Tekken Force with unlockables and easy way to farm money (Unlock permanent Devil Jin or Devil mode in Devil within) both Story Mode and Ranking Arcade battle. Also, the Starblade port built inside the game as well. Tekken 5 gameplay went back Tekken 3 but with the engine of Tekken 4 hence made the game 10x better. What I don't like was the throw, throw also part of the character charm and yet it reduced to a FREAKING SIDE CHANGE.
5 had all of 4 content with more stuffs as well.
and the music was so good
You can save replays in Tekken 4, but not 5. With replays, you can kiss that VCR goodbye.
zhaoyun255 but the point is so what tekken 4 had better endings and music and awesome astatic
It's not my favorite in the series, but it's a very close 3rd, sure, it's probably the most unbalanced game in the Tekken series since Tekken 3, but it's the most atmospheric game in the series, with it's darker toned storyline, deep and stylistic design (the best in the series in my opinion) and probably the best composed soundtrack in the series, also it has quite a lot of single player content which is always a plus for me.
There was nothing wrong with this game. Don’t believe the hype!
Unpopular opinion, but probably my favourite in the series. The game that made me buy a PS2, coming right of the Tekken 3 craze, I'll never forget the awesome feeling of playing the sequel for the first time.
I love the story, the atmosphere, the stylish vibe and the awesome music. The roster of characters isn't the most extensive one, but I think it's perfect for what it is. A major complaint I have with the recent entries is that while the rosters are insane, they're mostly bloated with clones and generic characters. Tekken 4 is a more contained, small roster but at least each character is unique. Combot is the only exception, and the few characters with the same moveset are palette swaps that don't even show up in the select screen.
Now the gameplay. Yeah, I agree that Tekken 4 is not the fastest in the series, but I have no problems with the pace of it. Slower also means less button mashing. That, combined with the cage type stages and the switch move makes this game the most strategic in the series. And the last one to dare in implementing some meaningful changes to the core gameplay. Tekken 5 is Tekken 3 on steroids and I've never been a fan of rage systems that reward suckage.
On a side note, it was the last one to feature a decent Tekken Force into the mix. And what better reward for beating it than the awesome Hon-Maru stage?
I know that some people liked the Devil Within thing in Tekken 5, but I found it tedious at best. And you can unlock Devil Jin by playing the Story Mode anyway, so...
It's 2021 and I'm still having a blast playing this game. One of my favorite fighters.
It's probably my least favorite Tekken. It's either that or Tekken 6. But judging from the gameplay footage with all of the cutscene triggered super moves, Tekken 7 may be my least favorite. I'm sorry, but I don't think that super moves belong in a Tekken game. Just because every fighter has them, doesn't mean Tekken needs them.
I could never get into 6 either. With 7, I still don't know what to think honestly. It looks good imo, but I can't imagine the roster holding up against Tag 2's.
Yes I so agree with you. Even though I still use rage arts and stuff, I'm not a big fan of them.
Everyone loves Tekken 4 bro
Not everyone,I see some people saying it sucks
People who say it sucks for little to no reason are stupid.
Tekken 4 sucks
That’s my favorite tekken it looks great the models are diverse and the stages are the best ever we would spend a lot of time navigating them and doing crazy combos
Wish tekken 4 and 5 had xbox ports... I'm not saying that the PS2 ports suck but in my opinion those 2 games could've been more legandary than they are now.
You do know that tekken used be a exclusive series to the playstation 1 and 2 right?
Round! Chicken?! 🐔
i still dont get why people hate on tekken 4 and i still never will 😂
the only thing people could make a case for in tekken 4 is that you could get hit on a wall now.
well ok than lol
guess everyone better start giving the other tekkens afterwards a negative review as well.
ALSO, im sure people loved to be juggled more thanks to tekkens 6’s new mechanic where the person bounces on the floor to get juggled more.
i actually love all the tekken games but 4 and 5 are by far in my opinion the most balanced and fairest of the tekken games and my personal favorite
sick game
it might just be me but Tekken 4 is definitely the fastest feeling Tekken from a gameplay perspective. It's ridiculously quick with it's movements compared to Tekken 3
as for main series Tekken always became better.
After playing Tekken 3 it was impossible to return to Tekken 2 because of Z-axis.
With TTT because of characters.
Tekken 4 - mechanics + graphics\design.
5 - characters + moves.
6 - mechanics + moves + characters.
TTT2 - characters + combos
T7 - mechanics + moves + combos + characters + customizations + mods
the only slightly strange behaviour I would like Namco to consider is with mobile devices. When Tekken came to mobile it was possible to play Tekken for gba through emulator, which was tremendously better. Same with Soul Calibur for mobiles. And same is for Tekken for iOS/Android with psp emulator.
I hope they already know all of this and exactly that is why last two Ridge Racer games had updated/innovative mechanics
Tekken 4 is epic. Fuck the haters.
Still have this games soundtrack burned into my memory.
I highly recommend Bit Crusher, Didgerhythm,A fist for a fist,and Gym. Or just the whole ost.
It's sad that they removed their Tekken Retrospective videos, I wanted to rewatch them.
Bit late to this one but hearing the unlimited saga tune at one point gave me a massive shot of nostalgia wow
Tekken 4 is still my favorite all time Tekken. It was so great
Idfk t4 kinda awesome
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Tekken 4 and 5 are my favourite Tekken games of the Franchise. ☯️ By the way Tekken 4 had the best story and atmosphere no doubt. Also my favourite Tekken Intros of the series are 4 and 5. Especially Tekken 4, developers did a lot of things incredibly right, most storylines were incredibly cool and the atmosphere and seriousness was just on a another level. I don't think most would disagree that Tekken 4 had a great"everything-except-the-fighting" to it. Great and Epic soundtracks, unique character designs, good individual stories, and an interesting main Mishima arc revival. The thing is that it's still a fighting game and no matter how great everything else is, if the fighting bit is flawed it'll overshadow the positives. ☯️✌
One small nitpick about your comment on the gameplay differences between Tekken 4 and the older titles. Tekken 4 was hated for the exact opposite of what you stated. The previous Tekken games had a non existent poking game(at a top competitive level). Considering that the top tiers of those games where dominated by characters with great movement, solid whiff punishers, and juggles were basically everything. In Tekken 4, they heavily nerfed movement (you cant side step only sidewalk) and focused on a poke heavy style gameplay and gutted juggles (they increased the pushback of the juggles and gravity, making combos very limited).
Characters like Steve,Jin, and Nina basically bullied the entire cast while Kazuya, a character built on movement and strong launchers. Was kneecaped hard. Making him a pretty subpar counter hit style character and his iconic launching electric wind godfist into a counterhit only launcher. basically made it useless. Among countless other things.
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While Tekken 4 has a great atmosphere, an insane attention to detail, and is fun in it's own right, it's fundamentally flawed as a fighting game.
Being able to move before the match starts, combined with the bad wallsplat mechanic/uneven terrain of the stages, turns the game into "See who could get to the hill with a wonky hitbox first so I could stunlock him."
Characters like Steve and Lee take full advantage of this, with Steve's high damage output and hit-stun, and Lee's fast jabs and godlike Mist Step.
Jin is on a whole other level though. His moveset has a lot of low risk pokes with decent damage output, which already makes him great in a poking-centered game. One of said pokes is his Laser Scraper, which turns Jin from an already strong character, to a busted one. It's a 3-hit natural combo thats completely safe on block, and does a good chunk of damage. But the thing that makes it so good is that it becomes unblockable when you hold the button.
The gap in power with Jin, Steve, Lee --- compared to the rest of the cast, is massive, making everyone else almost obsolete. Now, that isn't to say that the other characters aren't fun to play, but when it comes to Tekken *especially when your serious about it* it's "know frames or die." That doesn't mean that Tekken 4 is a bad videogame, it's actually my 2nd favorite behind DR. It evolved the series in a ton of aspects, but it's just that the core of the gameplay leaves a lot to be desired.
You do know that the uneven terrain was made as a way to make it more realistic, right?
@@MegaTroySmith I do know that. And yes they are more realistic arenas than the games after it, they feel like real places that are lived in (Airport, Parking Lot, and Laboratory are my favourites) they're the reason why I still return to T4. But as a gameplay mechanic, they're just broken. I would really like to see Bamco return to uneven terrain, because Tekken needs a breath of fresh air and DOA has shown that those kinds of stages can be done right.
You should totally remake this review Thor - after your liminal Spaces video, Tekken 4 arena locations really are in the same alley (see what I did there).
Oh, I think you've forgot to mention about the position change. I've only played this tekken once at a Dave and Busters (wow), and I tried to do a throw but Julia just goes moves behind the other guy. What?
Not that i found Tekken 4 bad, its just that its sandwiched in between my all time favourites in the series with TTT1 and T5
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I really loved this game. And Force mode was fun to me
I completely forgot that King has a long hair in this, lol.
Unpopular opinion: Tekken 1 was the best Tekken lol
Wrong there is not 23 characters try 19 .
The best and most grounded and fair Tekken
What happened to your Tekken retrospective??? It was one of my favourite videos on TH-cam :( where it go?
sorry I took it down. I ended up disagreeing with and disliking a lot of what I did and said in those videos over time. normally I wouldn't take something down over that, but my next video will talk about a ton of similar things And is a huge fighting game extravaganza. and I didn't like the idea of ppl going from that video to the telken retrospective, as youtube is likely to recommend it as such, so I set it to private. at least for the time being.
@@thorhighheels what a shame it’s so quotable I come back to it from time to time. You do whatever you need to for your channel though man.
The Tekken Force mode in 4 was the best one IMO
As usual, nice review. :)
My favorite things about Tekken 4: Kings Mexican outfit, it's actually a pretty nice fit. The arena stage, and Tekken Force mode.
Tekken 4 was one of my personal favorite do to nostalgia it was the first fighting game i ever played and i fucking loved every bit of it i cant even imagine the amount of time i sunk into it
What bothered me the most was that there was no real end boss like Devil, Orgre or Unknown
Favorite Tekken to look at and listen but I'd rather play the games in-between them being Tag 1 and 5/DR. I think it's above average for what it tries to do I suppose. Not bad. But not amazing which is okay.
But I do think the non-flat stage construction in a traditional fighter is interesting. The only other example I can think of is VF3 which I'm not too familiar with how that fanbase rolls since I'm more or less a new fan but the buzz around 3 from comments and a discord seems to be a love it/hate it thing mostly.
@3:33 what type of noise is that 😂😂😂. I'm subscribing just because of that
I thought 4 was the best of the series, they tried new things, 5 was a step back, "more of the same". They should have polished 4's innovations instead of just removing them and going back to the same ol same old.
I've actually been playing through all the Tekken games back to back this week and I kind of agree. Tekken 5 was just 3 again but a bit better. And since then, all Tekken games have just been 5 only with some things added and some things taken away, never really getting better or worse as a whole. It's stagnated I guess. That said though, while 4 is certainly different, I'm afraid I just don't really enjoy how it plays. Then again, Tekken 1 and 2 aren't exactly amazing either in retrospect, and they did stick with that formula and made it work. So who knows, where it could've gone had they'd built upon 4..
Tekken 4 was my first Tekken game I played then I played Tekken 5 over my friends house honestly I enjoyed 4 over 5 and Tekken 6 could’ve been better Tekken 7 I personally really enjoy
Tekken 5 is 1000x better than 4 are you smoking crack
@@mr30witda30 He is indeed.
You can download tekken 4 save data from a bonus disc that came with soul calibur 3
Did they retcon some of the characters ages? If the events of Tekken 4 were 20 years later from Tekken 1 and 3 shouldn't characters like Xiayou be a lot older now in Tekken 7?
Not at all. Tekken 3 takes place 18 years after Tekken 2 and Tekken 4 takes place 2 years after that.
The reason the intro says 20 years later is because Tekken 2 was Kazuya's last chronological appearance before 4 reintroduced him.
As for Xiaoyu she was 16 in Tekken 3 and 18 from 4 to 7.
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And that’s how sidestepping stayed until today
Windwaker destroys Ocarina.
Idk man it played like tekken to me
Tag team was rlly fun
we need more fighting games reviewss
yuh. Working on a Tekken retrospective style video currently.
0:40 Game's name?
Dirge Of Cerberus I believe.
Tekken 4 is the St Anger of the series.
i did not liked Tekken 4 due to the fact many characters were not included and the graphics was to plastic.
Tekken 4 was a solid 3.15 stars and If it wasn't a tekken game. people would have liked it.(Maybe) As a tekken it sucked but as a fighting game it's good.
Edit: over powered Chacters sucked though
I think it's still a good Tekken game it just dared to be different
3.15? How did you calculate that? Steiner math?