UPDATE: “On 25 April 2024, Kidd began her journey to a shipyard in Houma, Louisiana, for her first major preservation project since her arrival in Baton Rouge. The work will be undertaken by maritime construction firm Thoma-Sea, and include measures to preserve her hull and superstructure.”
Hey Nate, I'm a history crank (naval/military in particular) and just came across this short vid of yours. THANK YOU for the update on the Kidd being dry docked for repair and preservation work. When I saw the condition of the hull here in your footage, particularly the bearing housings for the propeller seals... or lack-thereof in this case, cause rust has eaten away entire chunks of the prop-shaft housings and bearing foot etc., I was worried for the ship's future! The hull plating was 'on-the-brink' in areas of having serious problems like our USS Texas did over here. (Im in East Tx). I gather you're no Naval History channel, and you don't claim to be. I will check some of your other vids and see what you do. But you came across as genuine and like one of my bros from work or a friend from town. So, I went ahead and subscribed to you, man cause I got the feeling that you give a shit about what you do, and have an appreciation for history etc.... best wishes buddy. And thanks so much, again, for the update about this historic DD (destroyer) getting some repairs! So glad to hear that it did!
@@ARC_30-06 I appreciate the kind words brother, they really mean a lot! I’ve kept up with the battleship Texas restoration, it’s great to see it being taken care of. Hopefully the Kidd’s stewards will see that she looks her best soon. Thanks for watching and subscribing! Look forward to hearing from you again.
@@nateoutdoors4899 You got it Nate, and it's great you're keeping up with the Texas. She's a special ship for sure. We've been on a couple Gulf cruises (hate them. I only go to spend time with wife/kids/grandkids... lol) since Texas (BB-35) has been in dry dock in Galveston and one of my favorite.. probably top 3 easy, parts of those damned cheesy cruises is getting a great view of our grand, OLD, warrior of a Battleship, and She is getting a great spa-treatment there in Galveston. I am looking forward to going on a tour when they get her set back up. I know they have some dry dock tours, just haven't had the time for it cause of family commitments (those damned cruises lmao!) See you around the joint buddy!
Once again I will say, NOW with the Mississippi River being as low as it is this would be the perfect time and opportunity to do some "drydock work" to the hull without having to pay to tow her and pay for actual drydock time. The entire hull at and below the waterline is there for any needed repairs and painting. Once the River rises and she's floating again that window will close
climate change ? ... what climate change ? ... and you're worried about the cost of dry docking ? ... try living in the real world please ... you might achieve something useful for humanity
@@brucedeane8 Ummm, I re-read what I posted and NO WHERE did I say anything about "climate change" I simply pointed out for ALL those people out in "Inter-Web World" the need for and perfect opportunity for whoever is in charge (the Curators) of the USS Kidd Exhibit. There are other Warships on display and even have visited a couple of them and the entrance fee money could help pay for the work I mentioned, THAT is part of being and living in a "real world". I've been taking care of MY corner of the World for years and am now retired Thank You Oh and LOL
@@brucedeane8 Bruce, Im sure Wooky chew can defend himself but his there something wrong with you? He mentioned nothing about climate change but even if he did..... what's with the abuse? What is wrong with you and your life that your alleviating it through the abuse of others? This is a comment section on a bloody ship and nothing more. With respect Bruce, because it appears no one has ever told you this in your life but.......Grow bloody up!
@@brucedeane8 Haha you're a smart one... What do you mean "what climate change"? Thought people weren't uneducated enough to still not believe in this. Climate change is very real. Or maybe it's just a conspiracy and 99% of all serious scientists in the world are payed to lie about this, right?
The fact that they built a support cradle underneath the ship is a pretty good sign that they understood that the ship could occasionally be left high and dry.
It's not occasional. It does this every year. In the Summer and Fall months the river is low and the Kidd rests on its cradle in dry dock. In the Spring when the snow melts up north and eventually drains into the Mississippi River, the river rises and The Kidd will float off of its cradle.
@@Tigermarshall The propagandists don't want people to know this. Now, lake Mead and Powell are different stories. And they keep kicking that can down the road.There is even talk of a canal/pipeline FROM the Mississippi.🤦♂
@@jakerazmataz852 The solution to that is either: A. process sea water. Yes its expensive, but you don't really have a choice, or B. Don't live in a desert.
The USS Kidd brings back some great memories. The ship is a Just over forty years ago I had the privilege of being one of the Marine Surveyors who represented various entities when the USS Kidd was moved into its current position. We rode on the Kidd as it was very carefully moved over the concrete saddles that prevented it from tipping over in the event of low water on the Mississippi River. There is a sonar dome near the front of the vessel and there was a great deal of concern that the sonar dome might be cracked, and the ship might sink. When all we Marine Surveyors signed off on the USS Kidd being located properly, they needed a surveyor to go into the bilges at different locations along the keel to verify there were no leaks, and the sonar dome was intact. I was thirty-three years old, the youngest and smallest of the surveyors, so guess who was nominated to do the inspection of the internals? Great historical vessel.
@@holdenthompson1235 Yes, definitely. What I mean is that even as a museum ship, I am impressed that they planned for the water level to drop so low. Do they do that for all museum ships, or only the ones on rivers? For example, the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI) has an old diesel submarine moored in the river. I wonder if there are dry-dock supports under it as well?
@@kentslocum I know it shows to have been a year since you posted your comment, Kent. But I hope you get my post here and that it answers some of your curiosity about these museum ships. All museum ships are not treated the same. It all comes down to how much money the museum has to keep and maintain the ship, and where and how often any money they get comes in. At any rate, in places where the water level is apt to change, different museums TRY different methods. I can give you a perfect example of 2 other diesel-electric sub's like the one you're talking about in Oregon but that are preserved FAR differently. The Cavalla in Tx. and the Drum in AL. Galveston, TX. is home to the USS Cavalla, another WW-II sub. But down here (i live in East Texas, a couple hours from coast) the powers that be made one of THE WORSE POSSIBLE choices for preserving the boat: They buried it in the DIRT up to it's regular waterline. This was supposed to keep it from going anywhere during storms, and prevent rust/corrosion....but.. it's plain to see in hind sight, that while that was a good IDEA, in the long term it's proven not to be good IN PRACTICE. When hurricane Harvey hit in 2017, the Cavalla got flooded over by the storm surge, and became a submarine AGAIN, lol, but she actually popped up like a cork, and floated in place, and the hole she was in (thankfully) filled in a great deal with dirt/silt and when she settled back down, she was some 4-feet higher than before, and the museum left her like that, and did some clean-up and painting to fix the then-exposed hull portions. This was all dumb-luck too, as Cavalla had no support pillars or guides. She wasn't meant to rise and fall like the Kidd at all. We're luck she wasn't sucked out into the Gulf of Mexico and damaged or sunk somehow, that would be so un-cool. The USS Drum sits in Mobile, AL. in Mobile Bay, and has been hauled ashore near the USS Alabama, and an excellent aircraft museum; all of which is well worth visiting. Everything is well displayed, including the drum, and it's great to get to see the outer hull, ballast tanks, props and rudder etc, since it's outside the water.... this isn't good for the boat itself, and the hull is under unnatural and intense pressure everywhere it's touching them, hundreds and hundreds of tons of pressure on each support versus it all being spread evenly along the hull like it's designed to be. Over the past 25-30 years, engineers and curators have realized that the best way to store any boat/ship, regardless of age is by keeping it afloat, that has been proven time after time with few exceptions. There are many reasons for that, but the most important is due to the fact that these vessels are designed to have that pressure of the water pressing in on the hull from outside EVENLY to properly support them, and once out of the water, their immense weight shifts unnaturally; UNEVENLY, alllllllll the way down to the keel blocks, or all those boards and stuff you see in dry-dock pictures... which have UNEVEN pressure. The biggest point I wanted to make though, was that NO, they don't support all museum ships this way, I wish they would though. S_B
I can see the Kidd from my office every day and it's easily one of the best parts of my view. Appreciate you taking the time to walk under her and getting this footage, I didn't take the opportunity.
Thanks for the in person up-close! At my age it's doubtful I'll ever get down there to see it myself, always have a deep respect for those who served and especially WWII naval personnel. This vessel has a unique history,, USS Kidd (DD-661), a Fletcher-class destroyer, was the first ship of the United States Navy to be named after Rear Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, who died on the bridge of his flagship USS Arizona during the 1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Admiral Kidd was the first US flag officer to die during World War II.
You can't paint it on the beach can you imagine the insurance you would need to do that especially where that's considered some national area cuz the ships there what alone the pollutant that you would inevitably cause plus the department of environmental protection would be so far up your ass you can't disturb start torch and stuff on the beach and cutting metal up and using gases and all that on the beach
@@outdoorlifemaine6691 unfortunately you are probably right. These woke so called environmentalists are running the world. Now, let us for a moment think of if she develops a hole and fills up with water. What impact would that have on the effort to save the world.
You could put 9 of those on the deck of the ship I built and served on when I was in the US Navy. From Wikipedia: "Kidd's special mooring in the Mississippi River is designed to cope with the annual change in river depth, which can be up to forty feet. Half the year, she floats as the river rises; the other half, she sits on keel blocks, and her entire hull can be visible as the water is so low." I hope the museum commission has the funds to put some locals to work doing maintenance and preservation on the typically underwater portions of her hull during this period. It would be an excellent opportunity.
My Dad served on a couple destroyers in the Radio room. He stayed stateside mothballing them up the Mississippi. He turns 96 this year. His ship was sold to the Netherlands coastguard until the late 70's.
Yep, good video saved me from a return visit to BR to see the river that low. I left BR in 1984 after a job change and go back occasionally to visit but have not been to the river in over 20 years, thanks for the video of the boat,ship,destroyer whatever it it.
I believe the Kidd was used as the primary Fletcher Class Destroyer in the Tom Hanks movie Greyhound. Of course a great deal of CGI was used to simulate operational conditions. A pretty good movie.
She was. She is the only remaining Fletcher class destroyer that is still in her World War II configuration. Most of the Fletcher class were heavily modernized as they continued to serve in the US Navy and other Navies.
William Edward Young served on the Kidd as the Korean War was ending. He died December, 2021. Thank you for posting this. He loved the Navy, his time on the Kidd with Captain Ensy. Looks like a good time for maintenance before the water rises. I don't see when this video was taken. Thank you for this post!!
Looks very rusty under there. I can’t believe they don’t take the opportunity of free dry dock to do some repairs bcs i bet it needs repairs in some places
If one looks at the Texas in drydock, one can see that it's not just a matter of slapping on a few hull plates with a Lincoln Electric in a few hours. One flash flood and that area will be underwater again, possibly with gaping holes in the hull. I wouldn't risk it without building a coffer dam at the very least, which would be expensive by itself.
@@RamblerReb its on concrete anyway so its not like its gonna sink anywhere. And regardless, texas is about undoing the damage control that was done decades ago with foam whovh was crapy. And texas actually sank already because of disrepair so preventing that from happening with this one would be great and just stripping the rust off and painting over it could be enough.
Costs A LOT of money (millions of dollars) to keep a ship in good shape. Museum ships don't make that much money in the first place and since the government isn't paying for their upkeep it all comes out of the few dollars that tourists pay to visit them. Sure some receive money from the states, such as the battleship USS New Jersey and USS Texas, but even then it doesn't cover everything.
All they need is plastic membrane and scaffolding to contain the blast media and wala rust free and ready for coating. Just can’t get where the keel blocks are.
We Air Wing sailors called anything that is not an Aircraft Carrier a BOAT. 😂. Never will forget the look on the faces of those Sailors on the ship (boat) alongside during CONREP (UNREP) gazing at us gliding along steadily through the seas while they were pitching and rolling heavily when delivering ordnance, fuel and groceries to us.
The fact that this is just a small destroyer is mind blowing. I have been onboard the USS Yorktown, USS Alabama, and USS North Carolina and those all tower over this ship.
Was I Baton Rouge about a year ago and toured the Kidd, and to see how low the water levels have dropped is unreal. Very interesting vessel, well worth the time to walk through and learn a little history.
My step father served on the USS GREINER in WWII,she was a destroyer like the KIDD. They didn't see land for 2 years as they escorted other ships. These were brave men!
Always thought the USS Kidd was awesome until I went on the USS Alabama. A battleship is such a massive difference. Cool video. Never seen the ship without water at least touching the bottom.
We did a self tour of the USS North Carolina a few years back, "massive" ship is an understatement, as is the Alabama but it's one of those "you have to see it to believe it" on their size
I’m thinking about going over to the USS Kidd. I was born and raised in New Orleans and live part time in Baton Rouge because of my job. I can’t believe with how much I love history that I’ve never actually been to the USS Kidd before. I’m thinking that since I’m off of work for the next few days that I’ll have to go and change that
As far as ships, this is a tiny ship. It's a destroyer and they're smaller. If you think that is large you should sit beside an aircraft carrier out of the water.
- Global warming alarmists trying say something is changing when it isn't. >>> Half the year, she floats as the river rises; the other half, she sits on keel blocks, and her entire hull can be visible as the water is so low.
Wow. I’m 58 years old living in Baton Rouge all my life been on that boat several times I’ve never seen the water that low. I’m gonna have to mosey down there and check it out. It’s only about 20 or 30 minutes away from where I live. that is a piece of history. If anybody gets a chance to go on it, it will give you an appreciation of what people 😊had to go through to protect this country.
I was in the Marines in the mud 70s and recently I toured the Kidd and was amazed at how tough the living conditions were on the ship! I could not imagine being in rough seas on it! The men who sailed and fought on it were true warriors! Semper Fi my naval brothers Semper Fi!
Thanks for the tour. I live in central LA and have nevwr toured the Kidd. This was a nice look at it during a drought event like this. Thanks for sharing. And as far as banter about Boat vs Ship, I'm with ya. I knew someone who was an officer on the Ticondaroga in WWII. He would get so angry with me when Id ask about "the boat." He would correct me and insist I ask about "the Ship." It was out of respect for his vessel and his service. He said boats are for fisherman, warships are for soldiers.
Cool ship. A destroyer is considered small in the Navy though. I was on a destroyer for a family day cruise when they fired off the 5 inch gun. Shakes you to your bones... real loud. Real awesome. I cant imagine what it would be like on a Battleship.
Not quite! A boat launches from a ship, and a ship launches from a pier. Submarines and Destroyers are traditionally called "Boats" because 100+ years ago when they were new, they were too small to carry a useful amount of fuel and ammunition, so they'd travel around in packs with a central "Mothership" called a "Tender" that theyd resupply from and "Launch" from. So they were boats. When they grew in size and didnt need to travel around with this mothership, the name stuck.
@@nateoutdoors4899I love Fletcher class destroyers thanks to my dad who served aboard the Sproston. I do not mind one bit that you call her a boat. Thanks for the video and do not let the nit pickers get you down.
I worked with a man who was on that ship in WWII his name was Louis Godreau... he died on Sept 11 2017, told me some stories, he was one of the head gunners and told me the captain was French, his son always wanted to take him down there but he never wanted to...Lou was 92 years old...they don`t make guys like that anymore... he taught me a lot he was from Ft Kent Maine picking potatoes since he was 3 years old. Yes it is a destroyer and he also told me he used to sleep on the deck.
I've seen this as I passed by on the river. I myself am a inland waterways worker and saw this ship while the MS river was at its lowest stage. Very cool to go past LSU Tiger Stadium and see this from the waters view.
Pretty heavy corrosion at the water line and propeller stern tubes. If they had the money, now would be the time to fix it with the ship essentially drydocked. Very cool to be able to walk around it.
Great video! The kidd is known as a destroyer escort. It's main mission was to protect the main fleet from submarine attacks by firing torpedoes launched from its deck and dropping depth charges in the water. Thank you for sharing. 😊
It nuts seeing the river that low. The lowest I’ve seen it was on the lowest step of the levy just to the north of there, but also so high that sand bags and barriers were placed along the top of the levy.
Native LoUiSiAnian here… the level of the Mississippi River being so low is actually a common occurrence (it doesn’t happen every year), but the river’s level will go back up with the winter thaw up north. BTW, it’s a ship NOT a boat. Also, you board the ship using a gangway.
@@randycoolbaugh1408 yup, get what you’re saying. I’m imagining it has / had better then most acceleration, depending what the engine torque available is. Thinking acceleration would be a major plus when maneuvering in battle scenarios.
This one is on the designers of that dock. They anticipated there could be low water at some point. They built that outer dock perfectly. The ship is sitting even keel...very cool. It probably cost them a million dollars to design that whole thing.
It is a Fletcher class destroyer featured in the movie “Greyhound”. My father in law served on it’s sister ship the USS Kimberly The Kimberly was hit by kamikazes while in battle. Great ships with great men aboard!!
1/2 year it's in water the other 1/2 on dry land. It's been that way since they put it there in 1982. The sky is not falling. River depths vary depending on time of year.
They should take advantage of the low water and give the hull a paint job. Hell of a lot cheaper than floating it to a marina dry dock. The USS Kidd was named after Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd who was killed while standing on the bridge of the USS Arizona during the Pearl Harbor attack
I saw the U.S.S. Kidd 40 years ago and it was out of the water just like this, so it's apparently happened before. That same cribbing it sits on was there then too. I remember thinking they had it that way permanently to better preserve it against the corrosive effects along the waterline, which several other memorial ships have had problems with over the years. The hull was also in pristine condition back then.
Hi Nate, I know its increible how low is old man river. I live in Walker, Louisiana. Usually the Kidd its usually pretty much floating in water, I've been to the Kidd's tours. Thanks for the video, I haven't been down there in some time but I saw a similar video in Ch. 9 (WAFB). It is pretty crazy because I've always seen it covered in water. 👍
I have visited a sister ship, USS Cassin Young (DD-793). Currently on display at the Boston Navy Yard at Boston National Historical Park across from the USS Constitution.
For a ship that sits she’s actually in great condition. And from the looks of it she’s out of the water quite a bit hence all the cribbing. Still looks great!
I'm always amazed when a ship like this is out of the water how narrow the beam is. The perspective from the bow lengthwise down the keel of the hull is awesome. You would think the ship would capsize as soon as it was launched. Of course ballast and careful engineering keeps that from happening. The idea of drydock work while the river level is low makes sense to me unless there are environmental laws that prevent it being done where the ship is sitting now.
Coolio. New subscriber here. I live within walking distance of the Kidd. I recall in 1986, I believe, the water level of the ole Miss was so low that it was actually blue under the I10 bridge
The beam is pretty narrow compared to larger ships. Makes even a career Navy guy sea sick when in the North Atlantic in winter. I saw one of the Iowa class alongside a pier in Long Beach, CA. Went on to tell a friend that she had battleship hips after her first child was born. Years later that caught up to me. We're still friends but there for a minute I thought I was getting killed next time we meet.
Years ago when my son was in cub scouts, he and his pack were able to spend a night on the Kidd. Enjoyed the video but with a somber feeling trying to imagine just how low the river really is at the moment. Peace
It's a 376ft Fletcher class destroyer originally commissioned in 1943 and decommissioned in 1946 but was re-commissioned again in 1951 and decommissioned for the final time in 1964
UPDATE: “On 25 April 2024, Kidd began her journey to a shipyard in Houma, Louisiana, for her first major preservation project since her arrival in Baton Rouge. The work will be undertaken by maritime construction firm Thoma-Sea, and include measures to preserve her hull and superstructure.”
Hey Nate, I'm a history crank (naval/military in particular) and just came across this short vid of yours. THANK YOU for the update on the Kidd being dry docked for repair and preservation work. When I saw the condition of the hull here in your footage, particularly the bearing housings for the propeller seals... or lack-thereof in this case, cause rust has eaten away entire chunks of the prop-shaft housings and bearing foot etc., I was worried for the ship's future!
The hull plating was 'on-the-brink' in areas of having serious problems like our USS Texas did over here. (Im in East Tx). I gather you're no Naval History channel, and you don't claim to be. I will check some of your other vids and see what you do. But you came across as genuine and like one of my bros from work or a friend from town. So, I went ahead and subscribed to you, man cause I got the feeling that you give a shit about what you do, and have an appreciation for history etc.... best wishes buddy. And thanks so much, again, for the update about this historic DD (destroyer) getting some repairs! So glad to hear that it did!
@@ARC_30-06 I appreciate the kind words brother, they really mean a lot! I’ve kept up with the battleship Texas restoration, it’s great to see it being taken care of. Hopefully the Kidd’s stewards will see that she looks her best soon. Thanks for watching and subscribing! Look forward to hearing from you again.
@@nateoutdoors4899 You got it Nate, and it's great you're keeping up with the Texas. She's a special ship for sure. We've been on a couple Gulf cruises (hate them. I only go to spend time with wife/kids/grandkids... lol) since Texas (BB-35) has been in dry dock in Galveston and one of my favorite.. probably top 3 easy, parts of those damned cheesy cruises is getting a great view of our grand, OLD, warrior of a Battleship, and She is getting a great spa-treatment there in Galveston. I am looking forward to going on a tour when they get her set back up. I know they have some dry dock tours, just haven't had the time for it cause of family commitments (those damned cruises lmao!) See you around the joint buddy!
Once again I will say, NOW with the Mississippi River being as low as it is this would be the perfect time and opportunity to do some "drydock work" to the hull without having to pay to tow her and pay for actual drydock time. The entire hull at and below the waterline is there for any needed repairs and painting. Once the River rises and she's floating again that window will close
climate change ? ... what climate change ? ... and you're worried about the cost of dry docking ? ... try living in the real world please ... you might achieve something useful for humanity
@@brucedeane8 gfy
@@brucedeane8 Ummm, I re-read what I posted and NO WHERE did I say anything about "climate change" I simply pointed out for ALL those people out in "Inter-Web World" the need for and perfect opportunity for whoever is in charge (the Curators) of the USS Kidd Exhibit. There are other Warships on display and even have visited a couple of them and the entrance fee money could help pay for the work I mentioned, THAT is part of being and living in a "real world". I've been taking care of MY corner of the World for years and am now retired Thank You
Oh and LOL
@@brucedeane8 Bruce, Im sure Wooky chew can defend himself but his there something wrong with you? He mentioned nothing about climate change but even if he did..... what's with the abuse? What is wrong with you and your life that your alleviating it through the abuse of others? This is a comment section on a bloody ship and nothing more. With respect Bruce, because it appears no one has ever told you this in your life but.......Grow bloody up!
@@brucedeane8 Haha you're a smart one... What do you mean "what climate change"? Thought people weren't uneducated enough to still not believe in this. Climate change is very real. Or maybe it's just a conspiracy and 99% of all serious scientists in the world are payed to lie about this, right?
The fact that they built a support cradle underneath the ship is a pretty good sign that they understood that the ship could occasionally be left high and dry.
yeah the river does get low enough that without the cradle she would sit on the bottom.
It's not occasional. It does this every year. In the Summer and Fall months the river is low and the Kidd rests on its cradle in dry dock. In the Spring when the snow melts up north and eventually drains into the Mississippi River, the river rises and The Kidd will float off of its cradle.
Not to mention all the grass that looks like it been there for years.👍🏼
@@Tigermarshall The propagandists don't want people to know this. Now, lake Mead and Powell are different stories. And they keep kicking that can down the road.There is even talk of a canal/pipeline FROM the Mississippi.🤦♂
@@jakerazmataz852 The solution to that is either: A. process sea water. Yes its expensive, but you don't really have a choice, or B. Don't live in a desert.
The USS Kidd brings back some great memories. The ship is a Just over forty years ago I had the privilege of being one of the Marine Surveyors who represented various entities when the USS Kidd was moved into its current position. We rode on the Kidd as it was very carefully moved over the concrete saddles that prevented it from tipping over in the event of low water on the Mississippi River. There is a sonar dome near the front of the vessel and there was a great deal of concern that the sonar dome might be cracked, and the ship might sink. When all we Marine Surveyors signed off on the USS Kidd being located properly, they needed a surveyor to go into the bilges at different locations along the keel to verify there were no leaks, and the sonar dome was intact. I was thirty-three years old, the youngest and smallest of the surveyors, so guess who was nominated to do the inspection of the internals? Great historical vessel.
So cool! Sir, the story of your personal experience is really something! Thanks you for sharing God Bless🙏🏼
Very impressed that they built dry-dock supports under it, for just such a time as this.
Working as designed
Its permanent. Doesn't move from there. Retired WWII vessels I'm picking up on here
@@holdenthompson1235 Yes, definitely. What I mean is that even as a museum ship, I am impressed that they planned for the water level to drop so low. Do they do that for all museum ships, or only the ones on rivers? For example, the Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI) has an old diesel submarine moored in the river. I wonder if there are dry-dock supports under it as well?
@@kentslocum I know it shows to have been a year since you posted your comment, Kent. But I hope you get my post here and that it answers some of your curiosity about these museum ships. All museum ships are not treated the same. It all comes down to how much money the museum has to keep and maintain the ship, and where and how often any money they get comes in. At any rate, in places where the water level is apt to change, different museums TRY different methods. I can give you a perfect example of 2 other diesel-electric sub's like the one you're talking about in Oregon but that are preserved FAR differently. The Cavalla in Tx. and the Drum in AL.
Galveston, TX. is home to the USS Cavalla, another WW-II sub. But down here (i live in East Texas, a couple hours from coast) the powers that be made one of THE WORSE POSSIBLE choices for preserving the boat: They buried it in the DIRT up to it's regular waterline. This was supposed to keep it from going anywhere during storms, and prevent rust/corrosion....but.. it's plain to see in hind sight, that while that was a good IDEA, in the long term it's proven not to be good IN PRACTICE. When hurricane Harvey hit in 2017, the Cavalla got flooded over by the storm surge, and became a submarine AGAIN, lol, but she actually popped up like a cork, and floated in place, and the hole she was in (thankfully) filled in a great deal with dirt/silt and when she settled back down, she was some 4-feet higher than before, and the museum left her like that, and did some clean-up and painting to fix the then-exposed hull portions. This was all dumb-luck too, as Cavalla had no support pillars or guides. She wasn't meant to rise and fall like the Kidd at all. We're luck she wasn't sucked out into the Gulf of Mexico and damaged or sunk somehow, that would be so un-cool.
The USS Drum sits in Mobile, AL. in Mobile Bay, and has been hauled ashore near the USS Alabama, and an excellent aircraft museum; all of which is well worth visiting. Everything is well displayed, including the drum, and it's great to get to see the outer hull, ballast tanks, props and rudder etc, since it's outside the water.... this isn't good for the boat itself, and the hull is under unnatural and intense pressure everywhere it's touching them, hundreds and hundreds of tons of pressure on each support versus it all being spread evenly along the hull like it's designed to be.
Over the past 25-30 years, engineers and curators have realized that the best way to store any boat/ship, regardless of age is by keeping it afloat, that has been proven time after time with few exceptions.
There are many reasons for that, but the most important is due to the fact that these vessels are designed to have that pressure of the water pressing in on the hull from outside EVENLY to properly support them, and once out of the water, their immense weight shifts unnaturally; UNEVENLY, alllllllll the way down to the keel blocks, or all those boards and stuff you see in dry-dock pictures... which have UNEVEN pressure.
The biggest point I wanted to make though, was that NO, they don't support all museum ships this way, I wish they would though.
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I can see the Kidd from my office every day and it's easily one of the best parts of my view. Appreciate you taking the time to walk under her and getting this footage, I didn't take the opportunity.
LNB building?
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the in person up-close! At my age it's doubtful I'll ever get down there to see it myself, always have a deep respect for those who served and especially WWII naval personnel. This vessel has a unique history,,
USS Kidd (DD-661), a Fletcher-class destroyer, was the first ship of the United States Navy to be named after Rear Admiral Isaac C. Kidd, who died on the bridge of his flagship USS Arizona during the 1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor. Admiral Kidd was the first US flag officer to die during World War II.
Thanks for the info!
Tom Browkaw called them the greatest generation, those that served in world war 2. They loved God and their country.
I live two mins away if you ever want a facetime call to see it, i got ya !
Thanks for the video! This would be a good time to sandblast and paint the bottom to extend its life!!!
They do, just not every year, she's kept it pretty good shape.
I was about to say the same thing, good time to get out there and get ahead of the maintenance.
My thoughts exactly.
You can't paint it on the beach can you imagine the insurance you would need to do that especially where that's considered some national area cuz the ships there what alone the pollutant that you would inevitably cause plus the department of environmental protection would be so far up your ass you can't disturb start torch and stuff on the beach and cutting metal up and using gases and all that on the beach
@@outdoorlifemaine6691 unfortunately you are probably right. These woke so called environmentalists are running the world. Now, let us for a moment think of if she develops a hole and fills up with water. What impact would that have on the effort to save the world.
You could put 9 of those on the deck of the ship I built and served on when I was in the US Navy. From Wikipedia: "Kidd's special mooring in the Mississippi River is designed to cope with the annual change in river depth, which can be up to forty feet. Half the year, she floats as the river rises; the other half, she sits on keel blocks, and her entire hull can be visible as the water is so low."
I hope the museum commission has the funds to put some locals to work doing maintenance and preservation on the typically underwater portions of her hull during this period. It would be an excellent opportunity.
My Dad served on a couple destroyers in the Radio room. He stayed stateside mothballing them up the Mississippi. He turns 96 this year. His ship was sold to the Netherlands coastguard until the late 70's.
Yep, good video saved me from a return visit to BR to see the river that low. I left BR in 1984 after a job change and go back occasionally to visit but have not been to the river in over 20 years, thanks for the video of the boat,ship,destroyer whatever it it.
I left in ‘84. Everywhere I used to hunt & fish is houses for miles now!
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Thanks for postng. I served about her for just a short time , many years ago!
I believe the Kidd was used as the primary Fletcher Class Destroyer in the Tom Hanks movie Greyhound. Of course a great deal of CGI was used to simulate operational conditions. A pretty good movie.
She was. She is the only remaining Fletcher class destroyer that is still in her World War II configuration. Most of the Fletcher class were heavily modernized as they continued to serve in the US Navy and other Navies.
And pieces from the USS Orleck were donated to her for filming.😊
In the movie, they mentioned the USS Kidd once. I had a friend on the USS Kidd that ran into something simpler.
Many years ago I served in the engine rooms of a destroyer exactly like the Kidd. I know it from inside & out but never from this angle!
Snipe! (DDG-23)
William Edward Young served on the Kidd as the Korean War was ending. He died December, 2021. Thank you for posting this. He loved the Navy, his time on the Kidd with Captain Ensy. Looks like a good time for maintenance before the water rises. I don't see when this video was taken. Thank you for this post!!
Thanks for watching! This was taken in November.
Thank you for sharing this my Father served on that ship, He has been gone since 2015 I never saw the ship until now!
That’s TOO cool!
Take the trip down there in your father's memory, you will not regret it. I took my boy onboard one of the subs I served on, it is now a museum.
God bless your father.
@@salty_flightdeck_cpo thank you so much!
@@norseman5041 bubblehead🍻
Looks very rusty under there. I can’t believe they don’t take the opportunity of free dry dock to do some repairs bcs i bet it needs repairs in some places
If one looks at the Texas in drydock, one can see that it's not just a matter of slapping on a few hull plates with a Lincoln Electric in a few hours. One flash flood and that area will be underwater again, possibly with gaping holes in the hull. I wouldn't risk it without building a coffer dam at the very least, which would be expensive by itself.
@@RamblerReb its on concrete anyway so its not like its gonna sink anywhere. And regardless, texas is about undoing the damage control that was done decades ago with foam whovh was crapy. And texas actually sank already because of disrepair so preventing that from happening with this one would be great and just stripping the rust off and painting over it could be enough.
Costs A LOT of money (millions of dollars) to keep a ship in good shape. Museum ships don't make that much money in the first place and since the government isn't paying for their upkeep it all comes out of the few dollars that tourists pay to visit them. Sure some receive money from the states, such as the battleship USS New Jersey and USS Texas, but even then it doesn't cover everything.
@@dundonrl which is why they should grab the opportunity to donit the cheap way which is not in dry dock.
All they need is plastic membrane and scaffolding to contain the blast media and wala rust free and ready for coating. Just can’t get where the keel blocks are.
THANKS NATE❗☺️
Seeing the vessel this way is far more illustrative then seeing actual footage of it during construction ❗👍🏼
That's my dad and his brother's old Navy ship. They served on it at the same time.
I toured the USS Kidd twice. Great museum ship.
I served in the Navy, we call every ship a boat
We Air Wing sailors called anything that is not an Aircraft Carrier a BOAT. 😂. Never will forget the look on the faces of those Sailors on the ship (boat) alongside during CONREP (UNREP) gazing at us gliding along steadily through the seas while they were pitching and rolling heavily when delivering ordnance, fuel and groceries to us.
The fact that this is just a small destroyer is mind blowing. I have been onboard the USS Yorktown, USS Alabama, and USS North Carolina and those all tower over this ship.
Was I Baton Rouge about a year ago and toured the Kidd, and to see how low the water levels have dropped is unreal. Very interesting vessel, well worth the time to walk through and learn a little history.
My step father served on the USS GREINER in WWII,she was a destroyer like the KIDD. They didn't see land for 2 years as they escorted other ships. These were brave men!
The Greatest Generation.....
Perfect time for sand blasting and painting.
She’s a hell of a ship. Thank you for letting me look. Means a lot.
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Yep. She’s a Fletcher class destroyer. 👍🏻
Is there any other kind...lol...love those Fletcher class.
My dad was aboard the Sproston in WW2.
Well, there were the Forrest Shermans and the Gearings... but the first ones were commisioned close to the end of the war.
Thanks for the view, but next time, move the camera slowly. We missed a lot of detail with such a fast sweep.
the name was familiar. the USS Kidd DDG- 993, was with us back in the early 80's. i was on the USS America CV66 back in the day.
Did a med cruise with the America in 85-86 on DDG-23. Think I remember the Kidd In Norfolk
Always thought the USS Kidd was awesome until I went on the USS Alabama. A battleship is such a massive difference. Cool video. Never seen the ship without water at least touching the bottom.
We did a self tour of the USS North Carolina a few years back, "massive" ship is an understatement, as is the Alabama but it's one of those "you have to see it to believe it" on their size
When I was little I remember taking a tour of a Battleship. I could crawl down the barrel if allowed.
I went to Norfolk to see the Wisconsin battleship, an amazing ship but like the Fletcher class destroyer like the Kidd
If you ever travel to Honolulu, go to Pearl Harbor and tour the USS Missouri. It’s rich in history and well worth the price of admission.
I’m thinking about going over to the USS Kidd. I was born and raised in New Orleans and live part time in Baton Rouge because of my job. I can’t believe with how much I love history that I’ve never actually been to the USS Kidd before. I’m thinking that since I’m off of work for the next few days that I’ll have to go and change that
As far as ships, this is a tiny ship. It's a destroyer and they're smaller. If you think that is large you should sit beside an aircraft carrier out of the water.
It's mostly always sitting high and dry on it's drydock platform. There are some pictures of it from 2008 and 2015 sitting high and dry on Wiki.
- Global warming alarmists trying say something is changing when it isn't. >>> Half the year, she floats as the river rises; the other half, she sits on keel blocks, and her entire hull can be visible as the water is so low.
I visited in Nov 2017 and it was on dry land then.
Awesome HD video!! Thanks for the historic view of the ship.
I visited this ship just b4 New years day. Such a wonderful display.
Wow. I’m 58 years old living in Baton Rouge all my life been on that boat several times I’ve never seen the water that low. I’m gonna have to mosey down there and check it out. It’s only about 20 or 30 minutes away from where I live. that is a piece of history. If anybody gets a chance to go on it, it will give you an appreciation of what people 😊had to go through to protect this country.
I was in the Marines in the mud 70s and recently I toured the Kidd and was amazed at how tough the living conditions were on the ship! I could not imagine being in rough seas on it! The men who sailed and fought on it were true warriors! Semper Fi my naval brothers Semper Fi!
Thanks for the tour. I live in central LA and have nevwr toured the Kidd. This was a nice look at it during a drought event like this. Thanks for sharing.
And as far as banter about Boat vs Ship, I'm with ya. I knew someone who was an officer on the Ticondaroga in WWII. He would get so angry with me when Id ask about "the boat." He would correct me and insist I ask about "the Ship." It was out of respect for his vessel and his service. He said boats are for fisherman, warships are for soldiers.
Warships are for Sailors.🇺🇸
Cool ship. A destroyer is considered small in the Navy though. I was on a destroyer for a family day cruise when they fired off the 5 inch gun. Shakes you to your bones... real loud. Real awesome. I cant imagine what it would be like on a Battleship.
Everyone, I am using the term “boat” loosely in this video as slang. I am well aware the Kidd is a ship.
Not quite! A boat launches from a ship, and a ship launches from a pier. Submarines and Destroyers are traditionally called "Boats" because 100+ years ago when they were new, they were too small to carry a useful amount of fuel and ammunition, so they'd travel around in packs with a central "Mothership" called a "Tender" that theyd resupply from and "Launch" from. So they were boats. When they grew in size and didnt need to travel around with this mothership, the name stuck.
@@thevictoryoverhimself7298 I didn’t know that! Thanks for the explanation👍
@@nateoutdoors4899I love Fletcher class destroyers thanks to my dad who served aboard the Sproston. I do not mind one bit that you call her a boat. Thanks for the video and do not let the nit pickers get you down.
@@notapplicable430 I appreciate the kind words!
Dude, keep doing what ya doing. Everybody has the right answers.
Thanks for sharing, very interesting and something you don't see everyday. All the best 🇺🇸
That's a Fletcher Class Destroyer like the type my Dad served onboard. during World War II
I worked with a man who was on that ship in WWII his name was Louis Godreau... he died on Sept 11 2017, told me some stories, he was one of the head gunners and told me the captain was French, his son always wanted to take him down there but he never wanted to...Lou was 92 years old...they don`t make guys like that anymore... he taught me a lot he was from Ft Kent Maine picking potatoes since he was 3 years old. Yes it is a destroyer and he also told me he used to sleep on the deck.
French name : in Quebec it's Gaudreau
@@danielcote4888 His was spelled like I wrote it... Godreau
I had no idea that the river had dropped that low, thanks for the awesome video.
It needs some tlc and some paint below with some bottom paint and check the seals on the prop
I don't think anyone else would call the USS Kidd a "boat". The only ships that are actually classified as a "boats" are submarines.
If you want to see a really "big boat" go to Galveston where the battleship USS Texas is in drydock till later this year.
I've seen this as I passed by on the river. I myself am a inland waterways worker and saw this ship while the MS river was at its lowest stage. Very cool to go past LSU Tiger Stadium and see this from the waters view.
Pretty heavy corrosion at the water line and propeller stern tubes. If they had the money, now would be the time to fix it with the ship essentially drydocked. Very cool to be able to walk around it.
The water is already back up covering the props.
Appreciate your footage and narration information. I Felt like I was there. Thanks brother.
Thanks for watching!
Yeah that's fascinating. Nice work Sir.
They should take advantage of this to sandblast and barrier coat the underside.
Great video! The kidd is known as a destroyer escort. It's main mission was to protect the main fleet from submarine attacks by firing torpedoes launched from its deck and dropping depth charges in the water. Thank you for sharing. 😊
@@bradlavassaur8265 thanks for watching!
I was in the Navy on that ship.
Awesome, thanks for sharing 🤙🏾🍒
Thanks for sharing its awesome to see this dd kid I’m in aus so vids like these are awesome cheers
It nuts seeing the river that low. The lowest I’ve seen it was on the lowest step of the levy just to the north of there, but also so high that sand bags and barriers were placed along the top of the levy.
Native LoUiSiAnian here… the level of the Mississippi River being so low is actually a common occurrence (it doesn’t happen every year), but the river’s level will go back up with the winter thaw up north.
BTW, it’s a ship NOT a boat. Also, you board the ship using a gangway.
Wow! Proportionately, those screws / propellers look huge!
Along narrow hull with big thrust = speed!
@@randycoolbaugh1408 yup, get what you’re saying. I’m imagining it has / had better then most acceleration, depending what the engine torque available is. Thinking acceleration would be a major plus when maneuvering in battle scenarios.
Yeah, oversized twin screws on a tin can. Quick, maneuverable and sleek. Not only good for offense, but also it’s biggest defensive weapon as well.
I live in Australia and have never been on it. Thank you very much for the video.
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This one is on the designers of that dock. They anticipated there could be low water at some point. They built that outer dock perfectly. The ship is sitting even keel...very cool. It probably cost them a million dollars to design that whole thing.
Cool video. Thanks for posting
It is a Fletcher class destroyer featured in the movie “Greyhound”. My father in law served on it’s sister ship the USS Kimberly The Kimberly was hit by kamikazes while in battle. Great ships with great men aboard!!
Should take this opportunity to put the antifouling paint below the waterline.
1/2 year it's in water the other 1/2 on dry land. It's been that way since they put it there in 1982. The sky is not falling. River depths vary depending on time of year.
The USS Kidd is a Fletcher Class Destroyer! My uncle was KIA on the USS Hopewell DD681 on Feb 14, 1945 in the Philippines!
Your cardio is off the hook. Well done brother
That's pretty cool. Thanks for showing us
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They should take advantage of the low water and give the hull a paint job. Hell of a lot cheaper than floating it to a marina dry dock. The USS Kidd was named after Rear Admiral Isaac Kidd who was killed while standing on the bridge of the USS Arizona during the Pearl Harbor attack
4 years ago the paint job was nice,,,,,very cool exhibit. 👍
I saw the U.S.S. Kidd 40 years ago and it was out of the water just like this, so it's apparently happened before. That same cribbing it sits on was there then too. I remember thinking they had it that way permanently to better preserve it against the corrosive effects along the waterline, which several other memorial ships have had problems with over the years. The hull was also in pristine condition back then.
Hi Nate, I know its increible how low is old man river. I live in Walker, Louisiana. Usually the Kidd its usually pretty much floating in water, I've been to the Kidd's tours. Thanks for the video, I haven't been down there in some time but I saw a similar video in Ch. 9 (WAFB). It is pretty crazy because I've always seen it covered in water. 👍
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I have visited a sister ship, USS Cassin Young (DD-793).
Currently on display at the Boston Navy Yard at Boston National Historical Park across from the USS Constitution.
When i was younger they offered overnight stays on the USS Kidd. Ive def experienced it and gotten the tour!
For a ship that sits she’s actually in great condition. And from the looks of it she’s out of the water quite a bit hence all the cribbing. Still looks great!
Crazy! A great time to work on the hull......
My thoughts exactly
Absolutely frickin Awesome, what a ship and what great workmanship , Wow, 👍
I was under the impression all museum ships had to have their props removed....
Be a good time to rub down and paint the hull....
This ship is a Fletcher class destroyer, I served for five years in the Spanish navy ship Lepanto (D-21) ex USS Capps DD-550.
there are two more in the US The Cassin Young in Boston and the USS The Sullivans in Buffalo the only other is in Greece the former USS Charrette
I'm always amazed when a ship like this is out of the water how narrow the beam is. The perspective from the bow lengthwise down the keel of the hull is awesome. You would think the ship would capsize as soon as it was launched. Of course ballast and careful engineering keeps that from happening. The idea of drydock work while the river level is low makes sense to me unless there are environmental laws that prevent it being done where the ship is sitting now.
Coolio. New subscriber here. I live within walking distance of the Kidd. I recall in 1986, I believe, the water level of the ole Miss was so low that it was actually blue under the I10 bridge
The upside to a drought for old warship museums is you in theory can maintain the underside. And yes it’s a destroyer, Fletcher-class I believe
Now would be a good time to do maintenance on the lower portion of the hull.
Been to the Kidd, crazy to see it on dry land! Wow. I live half an hour away. I should go see if it's still down that low.
The beam is pretty narrow compared to larger ships. Makes even a career Navy guy sea sick when in the North Atlantic in winter. I saw one of the Iowa class alongside a pier in Long Beach, CA. Went on to tell a friend that she had battleship hips after her first child was born. Years later that caught up to me. We're still friends but there for a minute I thought I was getting killed next time we meet.
I grew up very near there. If the river is low at all it’s only by a couple of feet. The Kid looks like it’s been dry for years.
Super cool perspective!
GREAT VIDEO, Thank You
That's really awsome. Southwest Germany waving a Hand into the Pelican State of Louisiana 💯🔔🔔🔔👍🙋♂
It's floating now. Love that boat. I took my grandson when COVID first started
Years ago when my son was in cub scouts, he and his pack were able to spend a night on the Kidd. Enjoyed the video but with a somber feeling trying to imagine just how low the river really is at the moment. Peace
It's a 376ft Fletcher class destroyer originally commissioned in 1943 and decommissioned in 1946 but was re-commissioned again in 1951 and decommissioned for the final time in 1964
WOW thanks for the video
Run over to see the drydock tour of the USS Texas.....very impressive
thanks for sharing.
While the water level is low they should inspect and repair the hull of any holes.
Very cool video, thank you.
Would a good opportunity for some TLC on the ship's hull!
No drought in Oregon. Great ski season. Water levels slightly above normal. I hope you get more rain.
I like the Indian on the funnel.