This WOULD Have SUNK Our BOAT!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ต.ค. 2022
- We are SO glad we went through the struggles of replacing the exhaust hose because seeing the condition it was in there is know doubt that it could have caused catastrophic problems if we didn't change it!!
and two much easier and way less frustrating projects were also completed! Mountain Myst officially has her name back on and Starlink is up and working!
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I just ordered my first Tula shirt!, actually my first item ever off a TH-cam channel.
Your site was very user friendly thank you for that courtesy.
I just think after this episode the shirt should read “ I love watching Billy and Ciera do boat work” 😂
Well, that was... exhausting 😂
Mwahahahahaha!
1.1K+ LIKE of view 6,899... here we go... (hmmm... do you really mean 'know doubt'...? nah, just a typo.) Making it seaworthy is definitely PRIORITY ONE.
Good job, you two.
Definitely change the hole hose. It’s only as good as the weakest part. Definitely remove the wrapper on the hose also. Changes in temperature will keep humidity under the wrapper causing the hose to get compromised.
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Glad you replaced to whole exhaust tube. When you were saying that you guys were only changing one part, I was thinking “ Oh nooooo”. Good job.
Those exhaust hoses would have given me nightmares. It is such a flustrating job. Everyone's happy to see that one crossed off the list. Way to go.
Good choice changing the whole tube. When someone is ready to purchase you $100 boat this new exhaust will help seal the deal.
I like dry exhausts for powered vessels. That means using cooling water and radiators, but NOT having water exiting through the exhaust t system. I use truck silencers, which vent into pipes within deck mounted Samson posts. It is the system used by most commercial vessels, and sometimes the exhaust pipes are water-cooled or air-cooled EXTERNALLY. The LAST thing I want is sea water connected in any way to my engines. Fresh water only, via separate heat exchangers with additional thermostat controlled electric pumps independent from the engine driven seawater pumps. Engine driven pump or impeller fails, temperature of engine reaches 85 degrees, electric pumps turn on and pump failure/engine overheat LOUD alarm sounds.
If you wanted to inspect the inside you could use a borescope. You can get them for under $100 . Would be great for looking in those places that are hard to fit in.
100$ - I have one with 5m (15ft) cable and Bluetooth for some 20$
I got fed up with 1.3 meg speed and ordered Starlink. I had to wait for about a year and finally got it. It hooked up really easily and my speed test showed in the 300megs. The modem took a dump in about a month but they replaced it with no charge. What a difference.
If you are worried about waves at rear entering exhaust fit rubber flaps to outside of exhaust pipe. You may need to cut square to fit but they will allow exhaust and water out and stop water from entering. They are common on speed boats and can be purchased from most marine shops. I fitted one to my trawler.
Just make sure to retighten the clamps after a few heat cycles!!!
Thank you for sharing with us the realities of rehabbing an older boat. Keep up the good work...
Could you guys put together a video that talks about what you spent in overhauling this boat?
Lesson learned, exhaust hose needs to be replaced all at once. Kind of like cars, if you have to replace some of the exhaust you will probably be replacing the rest of it in 6 months. Do the whole thing at once, it's easier. Keep the good stuff coming guys.
An equally dangerous aspect of that old hose is that a crack will let exhaust into the aft cabin. If smeone was sleeping in there while the engine was running a small crack could put enough exhaust gases into the aft cabin to kill them. I was thinking - Just replace the entire hose - and was really glad when you went ahead and did it. Not a fun project, but definitely needed.
I was watching in horror when you said you were going to use the old hose, thank god you changed it 😯. Never mess with boat exhaust systems on boats always replace old hoses ! If you have not come up the west coast to my area NW, its some of the roughest water there is so be careful.
I’d have replaced the whole thing just to know it’s new . I’m glad you did !
Great to meet you today on your rainy walk with Jetty on C dock. Hope your survey goes well.
you guys should replace some of those broken acoustic tiles with PVC versions. they won't be damaged as quickly in that environment.
So glad you ended up replacing the entire exhaust system. So much safer for so many reasons.
I guess you can add exhaust cuppers if you are in doubt of water back flush. I have plugs for nine for mine, just in case of a failure. keep up the good work.
I just went back over some of your older videos. I know your an expert kite boarder and surfer, I would really like to see more videos of your athletics. I know your not just walk around scenery types, but I think you should show more of your athletic stuff. Your still the very best sailing channel and now boat repair, whatever your doing your doing it to the max.
Billy, even with a new pipe, just add a little dishwashing detergent, it will slide right in. BTW, proud of both of you, waiting for the auction to start.
Edit: I realize you replace all of it, that was smart. However... If one part looks bad on it, it's all bad. lucky you are a smart young man.
You two work very well together. That was indeed an important issue. 👏💪
The pure absolute joy of doing boat refit work.
We had to replace the port side exhaust hose on Midnight Sun this year, and it was a bear to do… I’ll admit, I looked at it pretty hard, and then paid the boatyard to do it. 😂
Good to see you used two clamps.
Too much work can make life dull .... Have you guys been able to go Kite surfing lately or even on a decent hike? Look after yourselves because without your videos my life is dull!! Stay Safe & Fair Winds!!
If I may share some education. The chemical compound of rubber in the exhaust lines breaks down over time. Nothing you can do about it, that's just the way the chemical makeup of it is. Look at RV's. If your not a full timer, you'll never wear out the tread on your tires. Unfortunately most people think if they have good tread, then not to worry. Then when they hit the road, blowout!....Eight years would be the max on that type of rubber being very much the same as tire rubber. The chemical bond of the rubber weakens and seperates.
One very important lesson I've learned in life is when it counts don't cheap out.
Great work! I felt your pain, but I would have been swearing and shouting. Calm and patient is inspiring. And, not just a water hazard... leaking exhaust into the cabin would create a carbon monoxide problem.
That clear plastic wrapping on the hose probably protected it all these years from ozone exposure. Ozone and UV light are the major causes of dry rot on rubber.
I can't help but wonder what the reaction the previous owners have if watching these. I know I'd be very excited to see my previous boat coming back to life.
I suppose it goes without saying(saying it anyways) that a rust converter on the rust is a must-do as well!
Tldr: you can trick cellular carriers into not throttling hotspotd by increasing the default ttl on your laptop to 65. Easy on linux, idk about osx or windows.
Hotspots throttle connected devices by checking the ttl parameter on the packets coming from the phone's modem. Ttl is decremented every time a packet passes through a router. By default packets originating on your laptop (most devices) will have a ttl of 64. After passing through your phone (hotspot means it's acting as a router) it will gave a ttl of 63. The cellular carrier can see this and throttles packets received from the phone with a ttl less than 64. So all you need to do is increase the defauly ttl on your laptop to 65 and the carriers think your laptop's traffic is coming from your phone. Throttling gone instantly.
It's usually more practical in the long term to get a cheap wifi router to connect to your phone (ideally over USB or ethernet with android 12) and install openwrt on it. Then the router can rewrite the ttl on outgoing packets (a 3 step change with openwrt) and you don't have to change your devices. It's more seamless but requires a bit more up front effort.
Can also integrate starlink and cellular to have failiver or load balancing, but that's more complicated.
The exhaust hose. Right from the start I was figuring....replace the 60 year old hose!!! lol
While watching and you first talking about not just replacing the whole exhaust system. I was thinking oh no that's a terrible idea just should replace the whole thing and then 2 minutes later you said you were replacing the whole thing.
Not sure if anyone has suggested it yet, Pick up a carbon monoxide detector about $20 bucks and mount it near the old hose
Very good video. I replaced one side of exhaust hose on my DeFever44 5 years ago. Did the whole piece without cutting it into pieces. Takes two people to do it though. I had to remove some shelving in order to have room to snake it through. I used the same high quality clamps as you did. The hose fit the exhaust exit fitting with a little soap, but very little room to get two hands on hose to push it on. Still have one more to do.
Even with RV Tires we have discovered Rubber has a Life-Span, like you said, It's better to be safe that sorry!
Just watched a few minutes of a Brady bunch episode.
Ciarra is A clone of Jan Brady😁
On next episode ya gotta say
Marsha , Marsha , Marsha !!
You guys are the best.
Love Jetty😁
Good job, y'all. I replaced the exhaust hoses on our boat two years ago, one of the worst jobs I have ever done. Glad it only has to be done every 15 years or so.
We're glad you replaced them before heading into the PNW waters. Looked like a tough job. Great work!
That must be hell doing the exhaust on that boat. I feel your pain. I am looking forward to seeing you guys set sail in the next couple of videos.
😂 @Billy, persistence paid off! Jesus that was a BIAOCH
Glad to see you are replacing the entire exhaust hose. Very important safety item. Keep going, you are doing a great job.
If you will drive the boat for a while think about an addition to the engines:
I got an idea from an old guy who told me to get a temperature sensor at the exhaust elbow (perhaps inside). There if normal the temperature gets never over 40deg C (some 100 F). If that temperature raises significant you lost your cooling. BUT - when you see that, you might have some minutes to operate before the head temperature gets too hot - so sometimes the little time to a disaster. Also: If you see that temperature raise and switch off, a damage to the engine head should be avoided.
Carbon Monoxide detectors are cheap and even battery powered. A must.
In my part of the world, what you call T-Bolt clamps we just refer to as Stainless Hose Clamps!
I knew there was something about yall I liked. I grew uo where your from. Jupiter FL was a neat little town
Great job guys a little frustrating but at least Sierra’s gonna step up and work on her birthday ! 😂❤ cuddles to Jetty!
My shirt came in!!!
Spot on. Nice shirt and delivered in a reasonable time frame. I love your videos and your ambition.
They even make exhaust tip check valves that can be installed to prevent things from entering your exhaust pipes as well.
The worst enemy of rubber is ozone. When rubber is covered with silicone spray it keeps the ozone away and it stays like new. They told us Starlink was not in our area yet but I bought it anyway. You are coming in loud and clear so I switched off two landlines and the internet. Now my monthly bill went down $50.00 per month. In 14 months the savings will pay for buying the system.
With ALL rubber products the SUN or HEAT is your friend when fitting it. I watched a video on hose clamps on YT "Test Farm" and I think all boat owners should see it a real eye opener and it WILL save you $$. Take care you two.
Great work on your boat. After having a DeFever for 18 years a bit of advice. Make sure that the injector tubes from the pump to the injectors do not get bent and are touching anything on the motor. They can and will wear thru due to motor vibration. cost about $100.00 each. Easy to bend back to proper shape. Also be careful using the T bolt hose clamps You can tighten them so much that the fiberglass inside the hose can be crushed. Leaking water from the outside is bad but exhaust gases and water is worse! Good luck
Whew!!! Another nasty patience testing job done!!! You both rock!!! Oh and Jetty rocks too!!! :):)
It's always something when doing boat repairs! Good job despite the challenges.
Now I know what a T bolt clamp is. I learn something new everyday.
for starlink splice a poe cable and dump the router. saves a ton of power.
I just finished a 40 footer that had set for years in the marina. Well never finished but very usable now.
We are at John Wayne Marina Sequim, WA. drop us a note if you are in the area. We can do the San Juans!
So glad you guys changed out that nasty exhaust hose. A total PITA but like you said, it puts the boat at risk of finding the bottom in a heavy sea. I hate working with that stuff but when raw water mixes with corrosive exhaust gases it rots the hose from the inside out over time. At some point it just has to go. On the home stretch now, just keep checking off that list. Your determination and work ethic is quite rare these days.
Cheers!
You can check the inside of your pipes with a bore scope...
Amazing what a team, you guys are so cool the way you work together, I am sure it is not always smooth, but you are such good teachers
Good teamwork ! I wouldn't worry about those splices.....probably a good idea in 2 sections for when its time to replace again. I would add exhaust flapper valves to the exhaust outlets at the transom to prevent backflow getting into exhaust pipe.
Yes, this, the danger is seawater could backfill the exhaust pipe all the way to the motor, causing possible hydrolock and other damage.
Replace all the hose and use the first bit you bought as spare for later.
Love it...what a great pair you all make.!!
Hope you like your Star Link, I have had mine for about 8 months now. I wouldn’t give it up for anything. The speeds are much faster, and I feel it is worth the monthly fee we pay. Let everyone know how y’all like it.
How much is it monthly?
Just a small bit of advice . When you have to cut a bit of wire like in the exhaust hose . Get a vise grip typeof tool , and at the bottom of the jaw there is a cutting edge that works wonders .
When I saw you working in the cabinets in the aft cabin my thought was: Put some insulation around. Could isolate the noise.
Love this new boat series been watching it 😀
Good info, solid episode
Brave moves. Great perseverance 🎉
I could feel the pain and frustration of a job that takes way longer than expected. Thanks for sharing, love the videos!
Love Billy's final comment for boaters to check the inside and out of their exhaust hoses..."don't know how you're gonna check the inside!" My 1976 CHB trawler could have original hoses, so I guess I'll find a way, fortunately it's a single engine boat. Thanks, Billy, for the advice and fun of watching you do the "twist" above the fuel tank and inside the cabinets. I guess I'll get to do the same dance myself :( See ya in Friday Harbor! Jim Morrison
Usually a gooseneck is fitted at stern to stop inflow
That's the most pain in the butt, grunts and groans I have heard from you on the boat projects. That one had to be pretty tough. Good job Billy.
Hi, in 35 yrs of being a marine engineer, I've never seen a wet exhaust run so high . Rule of thumb . It shouldn't be any higher than a 1/3rd of engine height . Your engine is doing so much work to lift it that high.
I'm not a marine engineer, so here's my question. Why is that line all flex line? Would it not be better if it was hard line most of the way? Is it cost? Wouldn't fiberglass or ABS tubing work better here?
Are the engines quite a bit lower than the waterline?
@@DiverKnight (Quite a bit)=? In this case I'm a guessing 4' lower, maybe?
Did you have any problem with insurance broker seeing that you did all the work by yourselves?
Ive used dry erase for daily finances about a year. I tend to take a picture of it now and then, because one brush up against it and a lot can get accidentally erased.
Great team work
That's good you found that it was all bad know and get it all replaced before you had problems of water getting in the boat it will give you a piece of mid
Damn, I love you guys! Billy and Sierra, you are awesome and amazing. Look forward to seeing all your videos.
Awesome work, folks. You've done an outstanding job of rescuing that boat using your amazing boat yoga skills......love your channel.
OMG! What a nightmare! I bet you're glad it's finally done!
Good thing you discovered the bad hose, Billy! It sure did look deteriorated. Think it's getting cold out there by now? When are you going back to Florida? Could a boat that large by shipped on a trailer? On a semi?
Keep in mind these videos are delayed by months. They've been cruising the NW for quite a while already and may be back in FL for all I know. As for shipping, yes, you can. Largest I've shipped overland was 72' pilothouse. But it's very expensive and you will have to break the boat down. I haven't shipped that specific model boat but I expect you'd need to remove the flybridge to get her low enough. Doing so will result in damage you'll need to repair when putting her back together. Very loosely, I'd say $50K to get it coast to coast.
@@donhappel9566 Thanks for that info!
Well done you two glad you renewed everything in the end and are now safe from flooding the same happens with a car exhaust they rot from the inside through condensation and exhaust fumes so what you did in the end was right I'm so glad the connection would no slide otherwise you may have thought that it was okay and left as okay with the potential of possible sinking so well for sorting it out
It is amazing all the two of you accomplish
Very important, valuable lesson learned. Good Job!
I’m glad you got that done before I buy this boat. 😃😎👍
One thing I learned long ago is to fit all your pieces together at the store when you are buying them. I would have even brought a scrap piece of the old hose with me. Saves a lot of time and trips to the store.
Y'all are learning so many good lessons as a young couple has a lot older than you before I realize that inner walls would collapse like that most of the time the outer one looks good the other side is just gross saltwater love it or hate it
Like the name of the boat! Awesome! 👍👍
Awesome shares grateful
You're probably fine hugging the coast but just be aware that Starlink on the ocean is $5,000/month and $10,000 upfront.
Don’t cheap out on exhaust hose- the 34 Hatteras I bought for $150 sank because exhaust hose leaking in the slip
Great video. Maybe consider a flapper on the exhaust outlet.
Good Call!
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great job finding the failed exhaust tubing, definate swamp condition