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    The Raven Guard were the XIX Legion of the original Space Marine Legions. Their Primarch is Corvus Corax . Their homeworld is Deliverance (originally named Lycaeus), a moon which orbits the Hive World Kiavahr. The Legion was devastated at the outbreak of the Horus Heresy and survived only by the most desperate of measures.
    The Raven Guard specialize in guerrilla warfare, moving behind enemy lines with unrivaled stealth and striking with precise application of force.

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  • @harryellis910
    @harryellis910 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1385

    Fun coincidence, in the wild Raven’s and Wolves have learned to be natural friends. Ravens find prey for Wolves and then get to share. There’s even documented accounts of Ravens playing fetch with wolf pups.

    • @eg0zb
      @eg0zb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

      This is always one of my favourite nature facts. The idea that two extremly different species make bonds and manage to find a way to help each other in nature is so cool

    • @Deathhawkdown
      @Deathhawkdown 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Didn’t you both leave the exact same comments before on the last video?

    • @harryellis910
      @harryellis910 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

      @@Deathhawkdown I hope not or I’ve got worse memory problems than I thought hahaha

    • @eg0zb
      @eg0zb 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@Deathhawkdown I swear I didn't

    • @ryantannar5301
      @ryantannar5301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      I'm both very surprised because that's fascinating and also not surprised at all given that those are two of the most intelligent animals.

  • @Ceiling_Gato
    @Ceiling_Gato 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +645

    Basically the thing about the Raven Guard "depression" is that they care about the lives of ordinary humans, but unlike Salamanders they fully realize that galaxy is incredibly fucked place and sometimes they have to sacrifice those they want to protect

    • @Rapture-nv5vj
      @Rapture-nv5vj 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      So... Salamanders are stupidly optimistic and Raven Guard are stupidly pesymistic?

    • @izthistle6196
      @izthistle6196 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

      @@Rapture-nv5vjthey’re realistic and they know everything is fucked up

    • @phoenix_03e
      @phoenix_03e 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +74

      @@Rapture-nv5vjthe salamanders and raven guards are different sides to the same coin, one will protect everyone at the cost of their own life, the other wants to do the same but understands that is not possible
      Basically optimism vs realism

    • @Channel-23s
      @Channel-23s 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@Rapture-nv5vjwhen you gotta face Orks Tyrnids and Chaos Gods 4-5 of them then you’d be pretty messed up too especially with you’re genefather gone too they are more realistic and pragmatic tbf on a nicer end rather then act like Iron hands or others who are more brutal and uncaring

    • @saucevc8353
      @saucevc8353 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@Rapture-nv5vj When you live in 40k, I don’t think it’s possible to be STUPIDLY pessimistic. Every conceivable level of pessimism in 40k is just realism.

  • @JohnDoe-zl6qw
    @JohnDoe-zl6qw 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +221

    *Raven Guard = You won't see them, you won't know they've been there.*
    *Night Lords = You won't see them, you will know they've been there.*
    *Alpha Legion = You will see them, you won't know they've been there.*
    *World Eaters = You will see them, you will know they've been there.*

    • @xanmontes8715
      @xanmontes8715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Grey Knights:

    • @dedman1096
      @dedman1096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@xanmontes8715that one is gonna be you’ll see em, but no one else is gonna know they were there.

    • @xanmontes8715
      @xanmontes8715 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dedman1096 what did you see? Mysterious silver space marines that moved so fast they were practically a blur in the battlefield and fought off an entire planet's worth of xenos that gave you a migraine just by looking in their general direction?
      ...
      Guardsman, I think you need to drink less amasec.

    • @dedman1096
      @dedman1096 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@xanmontes8715yeah, but I was thinking more that they were gonna kill you and all other witnesses for seeing them

    • @CrustyBread____
      @CrustyBread____ หลายเดือนก่อน

      Raven Guard: My Chemical Romance
      Night Lords: Slipknot
      Alpha Legion: 10 hour loop of the Benny Hill theme
      World Eaters: Cannibal Corpse

  • @bradleyread2539
    @bradleyread2539 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +109

    Surprised Bricky didnt quote corvus talking about that time when he was a young boy and his father took him into the city to see the marching band.

    • @BaconGold790
      @BaconGold790 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Yea I literally cried when he asked Corvus to be the saviour of the broken, the beaten and the damned. And the foreshadowing of “Will you defeat them? Your demons, and the plans they have made?” Such a good moment.

    • @AVspectre
      @AVspectre 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This is a Black Parade reference, right? (Only know the song I’m passing) 😅

  • @TheGallantDrake
    @TheGallantDrake 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Sky burial is very specific: the body is placed on a special scaffold so that ground scavengers can’t tear the body apart and break the bones. The body should be eaten by birds and the bones are left intact.

    • @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat
      @UCannotDefeatMyShmeat 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I always thought that had to do with cremation

    • @AgoristDryad
      @AgoristDryad 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Some sky scavengers eat bones too. There’s one kind of eagle who’s entire diet consists of bone marrow.

  • @emobarney1921
    @emobarney1921 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Let's not forget, when Corvus confronted Curze and there was a passage from Sevatar's perspective where he describes them moving in the shadows as a trick on the eyes and their sensors were only somewhat making out their shape until they stepped out of the shadows. The Raven Guard put fear into the Night Lords lmao

  • @Fyrijou
    @Fyrijou 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Also, just to show how casual Space Marines can be:
    In „Son of the Forest“, Zabriel, a Fallen, goes to search for more Fallen to meet up with The Lion and he found them by basically looking up the local Bar of a town. From there followed the trails and found 3 Fallen in like a bunker hiding where they acted like the 3 stooges, played cards and acted like the veteran uncles you have in your Family

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +279

    Corvus Corax upon leaving the Warp: “I’m sad. It’s too bright. I wanna go back in the warp. Wanting to go outside was a terrible idea, the warp does not judge, it just hates.
    Corax when finds Lorgar: “Hey bro, wanna be a dead body?!”
    Corax when he sees what the imperium has become: “The pain and depression I feel is so transparent that I’m pretty it has become its own Chaos god by now.”
    Local Ogryn: “Aaagh, what’s a chaos goud?”

    • @Khornecussion
      @Khornecussion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      Ogryn gets shot " WHO IS TEACHING OGRYN ABOUT THE INSIDIOUS SCHEMES OF THE GREAT FOE?! "

    • @noxion4143
      @noxion4143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Man, I love tts corvus so much

    • @noxion4143
      @noxion4143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Man, I love tts corvus so much

    • @galomir833
      @galomir833 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@noxion4143 you duplicated yourself

    • @22readbetweent22
      @22readbetweent22 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Alternative Ogryn line: "I miss Bob."

  • @educatedlaziness3268
    @educatedlaziness3268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +141

    Its not specific to the Raven Guard themselves, but i was hoping Bricky would bring up the story of the Raven Guard captured by the Tau who withstood psychic interrogation until dozens of Tau were in his mind, then forced his hearts to stop and send a psychic feedback into the interrogators killing them with him

    • @dapperultron1784
      @dapperultron1784 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Sounds rad, what's the source?

    • @educatedlaziness3268
      @educatedlaziness3268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      @@dapperultron1784 I can't remember exactly, it's supposedly an early encounter between the Tau and Space Marines

    • @HideyoshiKinoshita84
      @HideyoshiKinoshita84 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Problem. Tau don't have psykers (absolutely zero psyker potential, their souls are dim to the point they're somewhat invisible to daemons) so there's an incredibly large hole there

    • @educatedlaziness3268
      @educatedlaziness3268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@HideyoshiKinoshita84 yeah it wasn't through Warp powers but some other means I can't remember to access his mind, maybe something the Ethereals do

    • @dil09ful
      @dil09ful 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I think it's called Broken Sword
      I think he's name was Brother-Sergeant Herek Cornix of the Raven Guard.

  • @thewerdna
    @thewerdna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +173

    What also helps with the stealth is they tend to use Mk6 armor (the one with the beaky helmets), which is lighter weight and quieter. During the crusade most of the other primarchs hated it, while the Raven Guard loved that mk of armor, so much so it is also known as Corvus Pattern Powerarmor

    • @magiciansforce
      @magiciansforce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Primarchs: A lighter armor for speed? Cringe.
      Corax: I'LL TAKE YOUR ENTIRE STOCK-

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      The beak also houses a lot more sensors etc than any other armour patterns, increasing situational awareness and battle analysis

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      In fairness they initially offered it to the Iron Warriors and the Salamanders. Neither is really the target audience for such a product.

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      ​@consolescrub4031 In fairness, Perturabo pulled strings to get most of the stock sent to the Raven Guard because he was certain that such an atrophied legion (this was after Gate 42) was going to have problems, and then he could blame their failure partially on the Mk6 armour to get the whole project shelved.
      That did not turn out quite how he wanted it to.

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @christopherclayton5500 yep, they performed better than usual with the armor, thus ensuring the mk6 saw full production.
      Good ol' Peter Turbo. Once again his pettiness activity blows up in his face

  • @hammer1349
    @hammer1349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    The acquisition of the korvia is the final test for an aspirant, its not for meditation. Fun fact, Shrike caught 2 of them. The korvia skulls are brought back to Kiavar and buried among the trees, returning the spirits to where they came.
    The sable brand somewhat has two stages. The first is the more present voices and whispers of the fallen. The second is when they become belligerent, uncaring for their own safety and actively refusing to follow orders, drawing further and further inside themselves. Eventually they do become practically suicidal and there is rarely recovery from this point. Another fun fact: supposedly this is the reason for the creation of the first Moritat during the great crusade, corax himself authorising it and maximising what marines he has. All legions created moritats following the efficacy of those of the raven.
    Wraithslip is very much a rare thing among the raven guard and their successors, like in 40k they are a hanful across all sons of corax. It seems to have some form psychic component to it, willing the enemy to not register their presence in their minds but it is only made better through discipline and training. Muffling their armour etc is stuff they learn as scouts but likely improved upon when in armour.
    Stealth isn't their only thing though. A tank doesnt have to be stealthy. Hell, I believe it is the Black Guard successor chapter that makes extensive use of vindicators in sudden and devastating ambushes
    As far as i know, the iron hands basically only showed up with a bucket load of terminators backing up Ferrus. The backlash from that mess is what caused the whole cybernetic obsession.

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In fairness wraithslipping is one of the strongest powers to have, as shown by Sharrowkyn using it to kill Lucius in a duel. I'd be curious to see what's the prevalence of wraithslipping is compared to other traits like foresight in the Night Lords. The guys who could wraithslip were known as the Mors Deythan I believe and although they have been reinstated after the fall of Cadia, the Lexicanum lists the current number of members as 4.

  • @TheVegeta67
    @TheVegeta67 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    My boys. My main army is Raven Guard 6th company because I find the idea of space marines who fight for local populaces who are inacting a rebellion fascinating. Though I am buildin my first company and I plan on buying those new scouts for my tenth.

    • @phoenix_radio
      @phoenix_radio 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Ravenguard are badass! Definitely unique and underrated and overlooked but I guess that's canonical lol.

  • @thewerdna
    @thewerdna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +716

    So fun fact. Remember those first 500 members of the Raptor project who weren't messed up? Who as Bricky put it, turned out really good. They formed the Raptors successor chapter, and as a result have more stable geneseed than their parent chapter.
    They are also canon "reasonable marines" as they wear drab green armor (often with camo), specialize in snipers and marksmen, and overall act more like actual modern-day special forces in terms of their tactics

    • @convoy034
      @convoy034 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +81

      Honestly, the raptors successor chapter are underrated

    • @midnightecho8228
      @midnightecho8228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

      No, the raptors chapters are not from the successful raptors of the raptor project, at least it's never truly confirmed. If they were truly from the raptors of the raptor project, it'd be weirdly stupid decision as the successful raptors of the raptor projects are essentially what you call a "space marine premium upgrade".
      If the primaris marine are side grades of the firstborn space marine, raptors from the project are essentially in between primarch and space marine level, just below custodians. The initiates that went under the surgery were able to spar against veterans in a 9:1 ratio, almost completely dominating the veterans in hand to hand combat, even the mutated ones were able to fight a space wolf wulfen(?) in melee fairly easily.
      If anything these guys would most likely have either stayed in the main chapter and the raptor chapters were just named in memory of those that died in the project, or the chapter just have a few of the remaining raptor as overseer. Since why would you have one of your best elite squad all be removed from your main legion?

    • @thewerdna
      @thewerdna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@midnightecho8228 the reason they aren't as good as the full raptor marines is because there wouldn't have been enough of those to make a full chapter. Thus their superior geneseed got mixed with standard Ravenguard geneseed.
      Thus they only really got the benefits of more stable geneseed, but lost all the other improvements
      Essentially having the superior raptor geneseed has long since been diluted within the chapter, but still had helped them be more stable and less prone to geneseed flaws. Like the only flaw they still have is the super pale skin: none of the other Ravenguard issues are present in the chapter

    • @midnightecho8228
      @midnightecho8228 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@thewerdna Again, still never confirmed raptor chapter are formed by raptors other than it's just a memorial namesake. If there's an excerpt that actually confirms this please do let us know, otherwise it really is just a fan theory; much like how some people now theorized raptors are night lord descendants after them being "wiped out" in 35th millenium instead of just hiding.

    • @Apophis40K
      @Apophis40K 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      But there genseed is not stable as they alos miss the sams organd as the raven guard but they also got depression (not kidding) as a flaw in there geneseed

  • @tjl4688
    @tjl4688 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Remember that Marneus gave the Raven Guard a load of Primaris reinforcements (including Shrike who crossed the Rubicon Primaris). The Chapter is now back to full strength.

  • @TheInvaderDax
    @TheInvaderDax 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    I figured the Ravenguard stealth was like Evisor assassins. Can't be seen if there are no witnesses

    • @BLOODKINGbro
      @BLOODKINGbro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Snap, crackle, ba-cawk!
      From the shadows.

    • @AGrumpyPanda
      @AGrumpyPanda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Prettymuch, just quieter. They're still Space Marines, their job is still to stack bodies like split firewood, they just like to do it without raising the alarm until the job's already done. The Raven Guard are one of the chapters that has a vague presence in the Spinward Front, so one of the times I employed Space Marines in Only War, it was a squad of Raven Guard clearing out a gun fortress on the down-low while the Imperial Guard was trying to break through. All the Guard knew was that occasionally one of the big scary Punisher Cannons on the gun fortress would just... stop shooting. When they finally got into the fortress, there were just bodies *everywhere*.

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I think it's very much a case of picking their fights. They approach silently to limit their target's ability to call reinforcements then hit them as fast as possible using fighters and jump packs, kill everyone present then get out before any help can arrive. It's like Night Lords in that they pick the critical targets with the greatest vulnerability with the slight difference they prefer to go for military commanders rather than infants.

    • @christopherclayton5500
      @christopherclayton5500 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's Night Lords stealth.

    • @drafty9580
      @drafty9580 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@consolescrub4031 "rather than infants." bit slayed me lol

  • @FabryLON
    @FabryLON 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    If you guys want to do an episode on a Raven Guard character, Nykona Sharrowkyn is your guy. The chaddiest chad of the entire Heresy!
    Very happy to see my favorite legion getting some spotlight! The Raven Guard really needs some more lore and love from both GW and the 40K community at large. Yeah, Space Wolves and Raven Guard have a nice relationship; Corvus, after all, saved Leman Russ' life during the Heresy at Yarant.
    I wouldn't say that they have never recovered from the Dropsite Massacre...that was 10,000 years ago. The real issue with the Raven Guard and their lower numbers (compared to other legions/chapters) is the corruption of their gene-seed (thanks Alpha Legion). Overall, though, the RG has never been a large legion, even before the Heresy, as they really don't need to be, considering their role, tactics, and specialty.

  • @whatever3917
    @whatever3917 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    when Bricky talked about the "trifold path of shadows", I legit thought Corvus teaching was gonna be: "bashing a power claw through the skull." 😅

    • @cappinjocj9316
      @cappinjocj9316 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      But it’s more; sneak up and bash a lightning claw through the BACK of the skull.

    • @scooterdescooter4018
      @scooterdescooter4018 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@cappinjocj9316 ::gork OR mork:: "OI! WRITE DAT DOWN! WRITE DAT DOWN YA GIT!"

  • @loltwest9423
    @loltwest9423 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    So, something that’s easily forgotten is that 40K is a Sci-Fi taking place 38,000 years into the future. What seems impossible to us in the present may very well be easily achieved because someone figured it out how to achieve it, and the Imperium is simply replicating it without fully understanding it.
    So, the Corvus Pattern armor, whose name sake comes from Corvus Corax and is a mainstay of the Raven Guard since the Heresy, may very well be utilizing all sorts of instruments and equipment that we don’t know of to run completely silently.
    Think of the Tesla cars. Their engines are completely silent despite being cars. It’s not hard to imagine that at some point in the far future someone could have figured out how to get a suit of power armor to do the same, especially a chapter as dedicated to Special Forces tactics as the Raven Guard.
    Also, that’s another thing. The Raven Guard aren’t just stealth. They’re Special Forces. They perform surgical and decapitating strikes on an unsuspecting enemy. If a Thunderhawk full of Dark Furies (the Horus Heresy models DK was fawning over) flies by, sure the approach will be completely silent but the slaughter that’ll ensue will not.
    This is also why I love the Raven Guard (and Alpha Legion) so much. They use their super soldiers like they’re supposed to be. Not sitting behind walls, but as javilen driven clean through the heart of the enemy, one with the raw bulk to make sure nothing can stop it.

    • @KillerOrca
      @KillerOrca 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The Raven Guard deploy their Marines like the UNSC deploys Spartans and they get similarly successful results

    • @gallusdomesticus5478
      @gallusdomesticus5478 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I’d argue the white scars do the same thing without stealth. They don’t sit behind walls, they’re storm troopers that charge the most important target at ridiculous speeds before you can even figure out what’s happening.

  • @Meatus4514
    @Meatus4514 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm so glad my bois finally got their episode.
    I was convinced they recorded this years ago. Bjt kept it hidden for the bit

  • @BTM8109
    @BTM8109 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Shadow Warden Toretto: we dont have serfs, we have family

  • @edim108
    @edim108 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of my favorite things about Raven Guard that y'all didn't mention is all the references to the Native American cultures.
    Their way of battle is very "native american" with hiding from the enemy and picking them off from as far away as possible or getting as close to the enemy as they can and forcing them to fight in mele. One of their initiation trials is sending an aspirant onto the surface of Kiavahr where they're tasked with catching a raven whose bones they then use to craft an amulet they carry with them at all times which also doubles as a sachet where they keep small bits and bobs that are important to them. And something which makes them really cool in my eyes is that they give a damn about civilians, they care arguably just as much as the Salamanders. They have a different way of showing that and they're more pragmatic about helping out mortal humans than the Salamanders, but they do care and not being able to help bothers them, makes them angry and sad.

  • @MegaGullas
    @MegaGullas 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    "The Raven Guard are like the Alpha Legion, if they were loyalist..."
    What do you mean *if* they were loyalist?

    • @danitron4096
      @danitron4096 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Alpha legion is very confusing

  • @verdantvagrant7353
    @verdantvagrant7353 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Victorus aut Mortis is honestly my favorite 40k motto, it’s just simple Victory or Death

  • @SneakyMuffin
    @SneakyMuffin 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That damn camera push in on DK talking about the Night Lords. Shy, you've done it again.

  • @sheakennedy-ordway1156
    @sheakennedy-ordway1156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    35:55 Ninjutsu itself is 'being a ninja' it's not a martial art, it's a survival methodology. Ninjutsu can incorporate martial arts as a means, but a ninja that stays to fight is a dead ninja. However, there is a school called 'Bushin Kahn' Ninjutsu (probably not accurate spelling) that is alot like what you described.

    • @sheakennedy-ordway1156
      @sheakennedy-ordway1156 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      37:35 Real Ninja wear blue. Black only works on hiveworlds who never see starlight because of smog.

    • @Jfk2Mr
      @Jfk2Mr 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@sheakennedy-ordway1156real ninja do not wear clothes used by Japanese theatre crew outside cases when their task is to infiltrate such theatre

  • @MuD-MQ1-0
    @MuD-MQ1-0 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ll be painting Raven Guard soon as my first faction. I’m itching to get started!
    (Update: Painting of my first mini done! Raven Guard Infernus Marine)

  • @HighLordCrypto8951
    @HighLordCrypto8951 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was really excited for this one for some reason, never thought I'd be excited for raven Guard, guess I didn't know enough before! haha, well done!

  • @MrShoe321
    @MrShoe321 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In one of the novels, it's mentioned how all the Raven Guard are bros because of how few there were after Istvaan V. The remaining ones have a tight bond that can't be broken, they're probably the chapter that are the most loyal to each other

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Raven Guard are a favorite legion of mine and I absolutely love their lore and characters. Sharrowkyn is amazing and I love him!
    Victorus Aut Mortis!

  • @ЯАга-я4л
    @ЯАга-я4л 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Here's a thing about this truth trial. Every chapter gives physically and mentally challenging btasks to weed out the weak, but the gene seed and upgrades and extensive training make it possible to overcome inhuman tasks. But here, there is basically nothing that can prepare you. All you can do is be honest with yourself and have the guts to speak your true mind.

  • @Word0fBird
    @Word0fBird 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Definitely hoping for a short RG character episode. Sharrowkyn and Shrike are some of my favorite characters in the lore and I do wish they had gotten their time in the spotlight this episode.

  • @Ihasanart
    @Ihasanart 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That "tank silencer" is an actual thing, the Bundeswehr use it at an artillery range that's relatively close to civilisation so they came up with that to stop getting constant complaints, its basically a giant structure that the SPG (self propelled artillery, not a tank) drive up to it and attach, its design to contain and slow down the gasses from the muzzle blast of firing, its still dangerously loud but doesn't carry for miles and miles.

  • @tomtricity
    @tomtricity 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ravenguard were originally recruited from the Asiatic Dustfields. Asiatic. They're stealthy. Space Ninja.

  • @sentient_trash
    @sentient_trash 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    35:08 the correct answer is “The Emperor protects” (because a video game needs to happen)

  • @treymeadows6904
    @treymeadows6904 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The hard part of meditation is more along the line of silencing your mind and not thinking

  • @derpyboi8591
    @derpyboi8591 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    So glad to see my favorite chapter getting a video finally :D

  • @עומרשרייבר-ל4ר
    @עומרשרייבר-ל4ר 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Man I really misjudged Corvus and the Raven Guard. Always assumed they are just edgy boys (and they still are), but honestly they are kinda cool and its always nice when there is a space marine chapter that actually gives a shit about people.

    • @mk_gamíng0609
      @mk_gamíng0609 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The issue with the RG is that GW does nothing with them , so the community perception is the only factor many people have
      and well the Community likes making memes and often that overtakes the truth

    • @MrUzzynator
      @MrUzzynator 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@mk_gamíng0609cannot agree more

  • @Azrael178
    @Azrael178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I like to think ravenguard aren't eadgy at all. They are genuinely a bunch of regular dudes that chose black because it is the best colour for stealth and only seem that way because all other space marines are a bunch of attention seeking glory chasing ADHD teenagers who race to have the most bombastic personality possible

  • @tristancosta6790
    @tristancosta6790 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My raven successor chapter drinking mead and wine before i knew it was canon is crazy

  • @BLOODKINGbro
    @BLOODKINGbro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oi those SM sized silencers are huge my guy. If thier "knives" are the the size of short swords.

  • @huntergallatin6758
    @huntergallatin6758 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine having to explain to Lorgar a dreadnought came out of no where and destroyed your forces.

  • @burnin8able
    @burnin8able 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    gotta love the idea of the raven guard using sound dampening foam into their power armor to quiet it when the IG has access to Stummer fields that just dampen all sound almost completely lmao

  • @Sir.Disconcerting
    @Sir.Disconcerting 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please do a Soul Drinkers episode and book club for their omnibus, it would be badass.

  • @orcvsivstitia7608
    @orcvsivstitia7608 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As for the Ravens Guard being stealthy. They explain in the same White Wolf explained Obfuscation. They don't disappear. Their "warp" ability reaches into other people's minds and forces them to overlook the Son of Corax.

    • @gamechanger8908
      @gamechanger8908 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Those are mostly their specialized unit, the Mor Deythan. Raven Guard who have inherited Corax' ability.
      Other than that, the Raven Guard practice a martial art that is akin to ninjutsu where they remain undetected, which isn't exactly described how other than it being stated.
      Other instances of Raven Guard actually using wraith slipping is when Sharrowkyn vanished into thin air when Lucius was about to give him the killing blow. To the point Lucius describes him as being too fast moving like a "wraith"

  • @krankarvolund7771
    @krankarvolund7771 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My favourite Dark Age of Technology prowess is that they've reached a non agression pact with the Orks by using swarms of killing nanobots that instantly destroyed any Waaagh they encountered, removing all fun from the fight XD
    How do you force Orks to make peace? You obliterate them with something they can't fight ˆˆ

  • @AndyTF141
    @AndyTF141 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The raven guard got sneakers on, that's why they are quiet.

  • @Kennyselman
    @Kennyselman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait...so is that a real Tank Silencer?
    Not really stealthy, but it would be weird for a position to get hit by a tank shell and be like "WHERE DID THAT COME FROM?!?!?!"

    • @chrisdufresne9359
      @chrisdufresne9359 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The tank was colored purple, obviously

  • @jerbear3915
    @jerbear3915 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Vulkan, stop unintentionally killing my son.”

  • @clementcate4730
    @clementcate4730 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also, Ravens and Crows fly in muders. So you know. Smart.

  • @mastertreescout
    @mastertreescout 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! I'm really into the Raven Guard now. Thanks guys!

  • @BigSwede7403
    @BigSwede7403 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another explanation to gear that are one-off's are the Jokaero, Orangutan looking Xenos that excell at building weird tech.

  • @jolt06
    @jolt06 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Raven guard seems more metal then emo.

  • @frankiethe16
    @frankiethe16 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The idea that a silencer would do anything for a bolter is hilarious given that you are firing a projectile which has not only a build in rocket to propel it, but also explodes when it hits the target.

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I suppose people are still going to know someone just got half their body removed by an explosion but they might not know where the explosion came from. It could just be something to launch it a short distance away before the rocket ignites. For targets that aren't incredibly armoured they can always take a leaf out of Corvus's book who killed several Iron Warriors by throwing rocks.

    • @DefaultProphet
      @DefaultProphet 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@consolescrub4031Yeah most guns that have a suppressor in military service use supersonic rounds. It’s still beneficial for the reasons you mention

    • @MrUzzynator
      @MrUzzynator 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stalker Silenced Bolt rounds, used in the Stalker Rifle and other silenced Bolters. Replaces the explosive warhead with a slug

  • @jmagowan12
    @jmagowan12 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was once, ach this podcast isn't just a little podcast anymore! xD Great stuff as ever!

  • @zenmindgamer
    @zenmindgamer 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So disappointed that when being sassy over the quote nobody thought to go for Edgar Allen Poe or even a Nevermore.

    • @Mujangga
      @Mujangga 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Being sassy for sass' sake.

  • @andarchy1386
    @andarchy1386 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the theory that tyberos lightning claws are actually Corvus's seige claws

  • @YEE465
    @YEE465 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Finally after one whole month of watching nothing but adaptors ridiculous I have watched every single episode from the first to this one I'm finally up to date

  • @stephenpearson1786
    @stephenpearson1786 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    An episode on malice the chaos god would be fun as he has been popping up a ton recently

  • @juniusluriuscatalus6606
    @juniusluriuscatalus6606 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a little change? Just a little plague, just a little bloodbath, just a little... yeah, the last one would be a bit more problematic, but it would sell, I'd guess!

  • @grandadmiral8173
    @grandadmiral8173 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another notable relic of the raven guard were a pair of seige lightning claws that is theorized to be the primary weapons of Tyberos of the space shark's chapter

  • @respectfulevil9022
    @respectfulevil9022 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    is bricky's forehead so big because hes a psyker or is he a psyker because his forehead is so big

  • @LuckySecond
    @LuckySecond 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BIG WINGED GOTH JETPACKS.
    LETS GO!!

  • @KageRyuu6
    @KageRyuu6 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nah that is indeed a tank silencer, but it's used solely for training purposes due to the proximity of the training grounds to the city of Meppen, Germany.

  • @jonsoucy5510
    @jonsoucy5510 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Swift Strike and Murder should just be renamed to Double Homicide

  • @feralprocessor9853
    @feralprocessor9853 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lol Bricky's roasts

  • @cornygrunt9617
    @cornygrunt9617 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The best part about the Space Wolf bit with DK is the famous quote I heard, “There are no wolves on Fenris”

  • @arthurhsu9111
    @arthurhsu9111 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh these cults.
    Cults in Faith game: Raining Spiders!
    Cults in 40k: Raining Snakes!

  • @8unlucky8
    @8unlucky8 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The raven guard are very reminiscent of American green berets even do to the motto “de oppresso libre” to free the oppressed special forces bread and butter is unconventional warfare I just think that’s kinda cool that there’s like a real world comparison

  • @tjm11015
    @tjm11015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I...WANT...CORAX BACK!!!!

  • @klaytondaniel
    @klaytondaniel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    DK - So they are human afteral.
    Nightlords - I'm only human afteral. Im only Human afteral. Don't put your blame on ME!!

  • @raistlinmajere5550
    @raistlinmajere5550 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Raven Guard like Salamanders are pretty cool guys

  • @slumpbumpkin4675
    @slumpbumpkin4675 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i wanna see world eaters with "just a lil rage"

  • @frederickflores8152
    @frederickflores8152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Unless they've changed the lore lately they've always had the solid black eyes

  • @JedrzuGaming
    @JedrzuGaming 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a lil change, a termo mug with changeling or... Alpha legionere that changes from diffrent loyal chapters

  • @eduardodiaz9942
    @eduardodiaz9942 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whenever I see a Raven Guard mini with the emo hair and all, I always picture Robert Smith from The Cure in Power Armor. You can thank me for that mental image.

  • @MrThademon
    @MrThademon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wouldn't the advent of the Mark X Phobos armor negate the need to use stuff to silence the sounds their power armor makes?

  • @smokinyou4312
    @smokinyou4312 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More Ravenguard stuff please thanks. They’re becoming my favorite

  • @Timasion
    @Timasion 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How in the world can you have a Raven Guard discussion without mentioning Nykona Sharrowkyn?

  • @ArcaneMaiden
    @ArcaneMaiden 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    BELLIGERENT BIRD BOUNCERS!
    YOU'LL NOT TWO-TIME DK; _HE GOT IT RIGHT!_
    (≤ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ⁠)>

  • @Saltymeatman
    @Saltymeatman 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Put a bird on it!

  • @rodneydaliege8909
    @rodneydaliege8909 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When and will we get a thousand sons episode?

  • @brycemcewen6146
    @brycemcewen6146 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So there never doing thousand sons are they at this point

  • @AngyApe
    @AngyApe 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    War of the Beast episode, when?

  • @dektoide6138
    @dektoide6138 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remember boys, always leave on the benis

  • @bluefalconssuck5881
    @bluefalconssuck5881 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    D.K. isn't a Furry... He's a "Feathery"... a Dark Feathery.

  • @8leggedhorse
    @8leggedhorse 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, Raven Wine and Sky Burial... any fans of the band Avatar here?

  • @32pixels8
    @32pixels8 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’ve snuck up on a crow does that make me as stealthy as a raven guard?

  • @cooldudeninja0219
    @cooldudeninja0219 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does anyone else feel reminds of megamind when they look at Bricky forehead? I mean it just feels to damn big and I don't mean that to be rude, the art is actually amazing but I just can't get megamind out of my head.

  • @jonathanrichardson9935
    @jonathanrichardson9935 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nykona Sharrowkyn

  • @cage6145
    @cage6145 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Feels like ravenguard have some native American influence in the culture aspect

  • @6TypoS9
    @6TypoS9 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really think you guys could go slightly deeper into the lore to gameplay correlation.
    I understand your thing is Lore, and that DK has the attention spam of a mighty potato, but it would be cool to see from you guys, for example: "hey guys at the end of this episode we're going to go through a bit of the gameplay features of the faction, for 5 minutes."
    I mean with TTS you could super easily make it happen.
    Just a suggestion from someone who seen all of your videos and is sensing some recycling going on.

  • @YoBen100
    @YoBen100 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +421

    Raven Guard Space Marines infiltrating traitor Astartes' base using latest stealth technology.
    Traitor Space Marines: "Oh, its just a cardboard box and nothing more."

    • @BLOODKINGbro
      @BLOODKINGbro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Snap, crackle, ba-cawk!
      From the shadows.

    • @Tokumastu1
      @Tokumastu1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      While Solid Raven infiltrated an Alpha Legion base he discovers a conspiracy born from within the Imperium's branch of the Inquisition, while also receiving clues from a Hydra agent claiming to be his biggest fan.

    • @ElStinkador
      @ElStinkador 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      «I heard it softly tapping, like a rapping, of ceramite on my warp covered floor»

    • @magiciansforce
      @magiciansforce 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      For in the end, a cardboard box...is only made of paper.

    • @ryantannar5301
      @ryantannar5301 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ElStinkador we NEED a 40k version of the Raven starring Lorgar and Corax

  • @thewerdna
    @thewerdna 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +115

    A notable Ravenguard that needs to be talked about in some future episode is Nykona Sharrowkyn. He was a Heresy era marine and considered in the top 5 greatest Astartes fighters in history.
    His most notable feat is he is the only known person to kill Lucius without turning into him. Since he felt zero pride doing so, since as he told Lucius himself "It gives me no pleasure to do this. You are nothing to me, simply a rabid dog that needs to be put down."
    He also successfully snipes Fulgrim in the head (Fulgrim lives because he's a primarch, and he had the fastest regeneration of any of his brothers second only to Vulcan)

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Don't forget that he killed Lucius the second time they fought, he'd already faced him once and was winning. He's basically *the* 30k Raven Guard even more so than Corvus.

  • @americanman3745
    @americanman3745 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +344

    Sharrowkyn needs an episode. The man who bodies Luscious twice and snipe Fulgrim in the face. He deserves the respect of an episode

    • @chucklytell
      @chucklytell 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      isnt he still alive in stasis or something too?

    • @americanman3745
      @americanman3745 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @chucklytell allegedly. He delivered the gene seed to Cawl for the Primaris project, protected by Mangus for a little bit. Then his ship get attacked and gets into a stasis pod or something. His story stops there. So his story is left unfinished

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      The last member of a pretty cool warband. He also sucker punched Fabius Bile when he was tormenting the Salamander apothecary. I do love the interaction with that apothecary though since Salamanders have basically thermal vision so he just randomly looks up and sees Sharrowkyn hanging from the ceiling.

    • @AQS521
      @AQS521 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@americanman3745 which I believe if he was found alive, that would make him the only living loyalist space marine from the Horus heresy. He would also make a great replacement for Shrike, since Shrike wants someone else to take his place. Although idk if Games Workshop will do that since it would mean completely changing their chapter master model

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@AQS521 Technically there's always Bjorn the Fell-handed. I feel like if he woke up he would probably take a leaf from his dad's book/Cypher's where he works as an independent operative putting down CSM. I think I can guess who would be at the top of the list if he finds Lucius is still alive...

  • @khylerbane4523
    @khylerbane4523 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +243

    “Children, Deliverence has come. You need not follow my shadow anymore. Rather, it is *I* who shall fallow in yours. For I swear to leave the ravens of Kadvar never more.”
    -Corvus Corax.

    • @thewitch7342
      @thewitch7342 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      "HELLOOO i'm here too" -Vulkan

    • @12SickOne34
      @12SickOne34 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      @@thewitch7342 "Vulkan lives" *stomp stomp*

  • @baddragonite
    @baddragonite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

    Fun fact: darker greens, greys, and especially blues are often better for stealth than pitch black because a black silhouette shows up more easily visually against backgrounds, because pitch black shows up very little in nature
    That said, the black paint we use on stuff like stealth bombers helps to counteract radar by absorbing it and converting it into heat, so I like to imagine that's one reason the Ravenguard use black armor

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      In 40k there is also black armour colouring that completely absorbs light, like completely void. Admittedly it is predominantly used by the deathwatch

    • @baddragonite
      @baddragonite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      @@hammer1349 funny thing is we have something extremely similar IRL with the some of the blackest paints such as Vanta Black, Blk 2. 0, and Blk 3 .0
      As that's just how black as a color works, it absorbs visible light rather than bouncing it back like normal colors, iirc Vantablack absorbs around 99.6% of all light and Blk 2. 0 is supposed to be darker than that, so it would still just kinda make them look like a very black smudge in reality.
      There's always some form of background lighting or radiation that gives a slight "glow" to things (even human beings "glow" a little bit) so funnily at a certain point except for a few circumstances you would actually be counterintuitively making yourself stick out more by being "too dark" for a dark environment

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @baddragonite I have actually experienced that glow, it was very weird with some very strange natural lighting that made my hands glow orange ish

    • @ACRaptor17
      @ACRaptor17 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes. That and you also stand out like a lemon when viewed through nightvision.

    • @jagnestormskull3178
      @jagnestormskull3178 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      That's why the Raven Guard successor the most obsessed with stealth (who happen to be called Raptors, but not the Raptors of the Heresy-era) wear basically camo-green armor, repaint it when necessary, and go into battle completely silent.

  • @42meep13
    @42meep13 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    The Tank silencer at the end is real. It was designed specifically for use on training ranges in Germany so the sound of gun blasts wouldn't be as intrusive in nearby towns

    • @AGrumpyPanda
      @AGrumpyPanda 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      That is such a more sensible reason than anything I came up with, and I'm both glad and sad to know.

    • @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062
      @phylippezimmermannpaquin2062 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Of course the germans would be so considerate

    • @Werrf1
      @Werrf1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It's also for heavy artillery, not tanks.

  • @thefloridaman41
    @thefloridaman41 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    I know everyone calls the RG emo kids; but I see Corvus and hear Nathan Explosion. Like he’s black metal but he’s a nice guy and has a surprisingly good relationship with his dad. Couple things left out; RG are known for their heavy usage of their neophytes (scouts), they actually do wear less armor and Horus and Perty tried to trick them into it thinking less armor would be a handicap but it just made them more efficient, and it should be pointed out that Shrike actually also loves the RG successor chapter the Knights of the Raven to the point he calls them family and won’t accept infighting between the RG and Knights.

    • @Mujangga
      @Mujangga 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Only old farts still use the term "emo". What decade is this?

  • @GambeTama
    @GambeTama 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    So something that was explained to me is that the skulls each Ravenguard adorns themselves with is from the bird the marine aspirant successfully hunted, and that same skull is recovered whenever possible in the event of the marine's passing on the battlefield. It is a small thing, but does demonstrate fairly empathetic and sentimental side to them, despite what their brooding demeanor might suggest.

    • @hammer1349
      @hammer1349 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      The korvia, the bird skull, is pretty much the true mark of becoming a successful aspirant. It is the final test, the catch and kill and small, fast, paranoid bird with nothing but their bare hands. And Shrike caught two of them, though he believes that atleast the second one chose him given that it flew straight at him

    • @consolescrub4031
      @consolescrub4031 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@hammer1349 It's a very cool story as they basically serve as slightly morbid dog tags. Often veteran marines would have a string of them recovered from their fallen brothers until they can return them home. It's interesting that the test there (which you probably know as it's referenced in Shrike's book but for the sake of the wider audience) is not to prove you can catch the bird. That's part of the test but they already know your stealth skills are good. It's a teamwork test.

    • @GambeTama
      @GambeTama 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@hammer1349 That last part is actually kind of adorable.

  • @djsaunter
    @djsaunter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Here for some Sharrowkyn! Baddest son of Corvus to ever Ka-kaw!

    • @BLOODKINGbro
      @BLOODKINGbro 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Snap, crackle, ba-cawk!
      From the shadows.

    • @noxion4143
      @noxion4143 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      They have to read angel exterminadus now