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  • This video covers the entire The Iconian War chapter as well as the time in the delta quadrant with the Vaadwaur that immediately preceded it. Starfleet prepared for as much time as it could, but in the end, it was not enough and they had to resort to time travel to fix it.
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ความคิดเห็น • 319

  • @noahjohnson1054
    @noahjohnson1054 4 ปีที่แล้ว +225

    Imagine just being an ordinary Federation citizen and watching these events unfold daily on FNN “Federation News Network”

    • @ananousous
      @ananousous ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wolf 359 was an inside job

    • @aiosquadron
      @aiosquadron ปีที่แล้ว +14

      "oh crap, oh crap... Oh nooooo..."

    • @1014p
      @1014p ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Might make one question the whole exploration priority of Starfleet. Like guys pack in weapons for the trip worth having.

    • @Fallout3kicksass1
      @Fallout3kicksass1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Would you like to know more?

    • @nsr-ints
      @nsr-ints 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'd just buy a phaser rifle and a couple power packs and prepare to go down swining lol. Maybe form a militia or something.

  • @johndoe-oo2gq
    @johndoe-oo2gq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The final mission in the Iconian story arc is one of THE BEST Star Trek moments since the end of TNG.

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      EXCEPT for when it bugs out and you do all that ground work, only for the NPC Iconian groups you're meant to rescue, fail to materialise. Gahhhh. One to beam up. One to beam down. And take two.

    • @SomeKindaSpy
      @SomeKindaSpy ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With you there. Nothing since the end of the Iconian war in STO in "Official" Trek content is canon to me. I feel the same way about the Sequels and MOST (yes MOST) Disney Star Wars content. It just doesn't exist to me.

    • @doubt3430
      @doubt3430 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      STO wasn't canon to begin with

  • @ManicPandaz
    @ManicPandaz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +152

    Sela is a enigma, wrapped in a temporal paradox, inside a sassy Romulan. I’ve always loved her lol

    • @karkkosvolfe
      @karkkosvolfe หลายเดือนก่อน

      I frankly hate her! She is a meddling egotistical pain! Though, my viewpoint is probably due to being a Romulan main

  • @overseer5660
    @overseer5660 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    *T'ket teleports behind you*
    "Nothing personal... wait, everything is personal"

  • @dvader518
    @dvader518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    If Sela wasn’t so focused on revenge, then none of the events of the present of Star Trek Online (from the Klingon War to the Temporal War) would have ever happened and the Kelvin timeline and the destruction of Romulus wouldn’t have happened.
    Heck, the Elachi, Bluegill and Solenae episodes of ENT and TNG would also probably never have happened.

    • @SapphireCrusader1988
      @SapphireCrusader1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Time travel. It's a bitch.

    • @tomasr.
      @tomasr. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Or you can erase all Iconians from history. But as we know from Butterfly episode, something worse happens.

    • @mikegallant811
      @mikegallant811 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@tomasr. Better that Romulus is lost,than assimilated by the Borg.

    • @shauntempley9757
      @shauntempley9757 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@mikegallant811 Yeah. Cloaked Borg Cubes are too terrifying.

    • @thefamilydad8635
      @thefamilydad8635 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      At the same time, if T’Ket hadn’t been so focused on revenge, she wouldn’t have engineered the destruction of Romulus, preventing Stela’s quest for vengeance entirely.
      Edit: If either hadn’t pursued vengeance, the reason for said vengeance never would have happened.

  • @blazingbl2gamingop794
    @blazingbl2gamingop794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    The Iconian War is definitely my favourite storyline in STO. The war with the Hur'q is a close second.

    • @reservedsnow3224
      @reservedsnow3224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What about the Klingon civil war it is also pretty good

    • @ryans756
      @ryans756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'd say the Iconian War is far and away the best story arc in STO. This war is hinted at from the earliest moments in the game (more or less) and the Heralds were fearsome enemies! Not to mention first setting foot on the Iconian homeworld, seeing how beautiful it was, how beautiful THEY were, before the fall.
      Can't stand Tom Paris though so I exclude him and that awful Delta Flight mission. Bleh.

    • @Tar-Numendil
      @Tar-Numendil ปีที่แล้ว

      Personally, New Frontiers was my favorite. It was nice to do some actual exploring for once. Instead of battle after battle, war after war.

    • @somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024
      @somestormchaseridjitwithwi2024 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@Tar-Numendil Agreed. STO should have a balance of both.

  • @WilliamJakespeareProps
    @WilliamJakespeareProps 4 ปีที่แล้ว +237

    cbs should make a "clone wars" style animated version of this storyline.

    • @Brockyman
      @Brockyman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      After they get ride of Kurtzman and Secret Door.

    • @gallendugall8913
      @gallendugall8913 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      If it's going to be all about interpersonal BS and full of vulgarity and violence like everything else they did with Trek - I will pass.

    • @GUMMRUCHK
      @GUMMRUCHK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@realnub235 If he's looking for something like the Clone Wars tv series watching Lower Decks is a terrible recommendation.

    • @dvader518
      @dvader518 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Brockyman Why?

    • @TheMock5000
      @TheMock5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@realnub235 oh, you mean the final space clone.... Except it's worse. Yeah, that *definitely* will hold up to Clone Wars.

  • @GUMMRUCHK
    @GUMMRUCHK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +94

    I'm getting annoyed with how often the Empress keeps escaping it's just getting ridiculous. lmao

    • @rightsideup6304
      @rightsideup6304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's more to because she kept getting sent back to the Romulans. She said so in the dialogue that she can very easily escape Romulan prisons.

    • @GUMMRUCHK
      @GUMMRUCHK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@rightsideup6304 Which is why you put her up against a wall and put a phaser threw her instead of being nice.

    • @rightsideup6304
      @rightsideup6304 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@GUMMRUCHK true but she in a UFP prison now. And from some cutscenes she seems to try and be comfy there since even she said their prisons are no joke.

    • @plantguy9
      @plantguy9 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well STO needs some villains to work with.

    • @GUMMRUCHK
      @GUMMRUCHK 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@plantguy9 I get that but having the villain constantly escape like that is something I expect from a Disney cartoon not Star Trek.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +93

    With the Temporal Cold War Arc coming up next. Mark Hale being a 2260s Starfleet Officer will have some exclusive character moments in comparison to the other playable factions. Can't wait to see how Rick adds his own spin to it.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That would really be interesting since he's a temporal agent himself.
      I wonder what his specialization is. My TOS toon is a temporal operative with a Kein Class Temporal Destroyer, since she's a temporal operative herself.

    • @marsar1775
      @marsar1775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I recognise that flag occultatum
      FOR THE GLORY OF THE GTU

  • @RobDEV
    @RobDEV 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    I enjoyed the iconian war arc

    • @Anthyrion
      @Anthyrion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Still one if not THE best arc in the game if you ask me :)

    • @Anthyrion
      @Anthyrion 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @ValorJ Omega I enjoyed mostly every character. Kira was good written but not really one of my favourites. It was great that Worf can finally have some good character moments and the development of his character :)

    • @Jokie155
      @Jokie155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @ValorJ Omega My first character was a Ferengi science officer. And Ferengi characters have a special dialogue for when they first meet Nog, talking about how he was an inspiration for joining Starfleet. One little moment that has always stuck with me to this day.

    • @mayurgianchandani1184
      @mayurgianchandani1184 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It was built up so well.
      Goes from romulan mystery to new Romulus, to solanae Dyson sphere to delta quadrant to finally the war.

    • @frostyvr9805
      @frostyvr9805 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the story but I hated playing through it because of how enemy level scaling works lol

  • @cmdrtianyilin8107
    @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Now, good luck explaining Temporal Cold war next.

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh that is easy. On the order that you do the missions in.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@daviddrake5991 it's not that easy. Temporal cold war from TOS perspective was/is going on due to the incompetence of the Federation-Klingon alliance; denying to restore Na'kuhl star, giving back Noye's family and deliberately trying to prevent time travel by banning the technology in future which will lead Na'kuhls to fight back by time travel and preventing Tholians from nuking their star used which they used Tox Uthat by doing a genocide in the past.
      You see, it's not that easy. It's just a fraction of what happened. On top of that, you'll have sphere builders to consider.
      You might think, you'll have to clean up Janeway's mess in the Delta Quadrant, while Archer had to clean up your/protagonists' mess from the past.

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cmdrtianyilin8107 What are you talking about? I watched the Harry Potter movie, and it was a total mess until 5th viewing. Or was it the 16th viewing I do not recall now L O L.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddrake5991 what this has to do with Harry potter movies?

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cmdrtianyilin8107 One of the movies has a tad of time travel. Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban.

  • @PeoplecallmeLucifer
    @PeoplecallmeLucifer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    It matters not how strait the gate,
    How charged with punishments the scroll,
    I am the master of my fate,
    I am the captain of my soul.
    God I'm glad you introduced me to this poem

    • @DanielBrown-sn9op
      @DanielBrown-sn9op 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Are we the "captains of our souls" after we die?

    • @DanielBrown-sn9op
      @DanielBrown-sn9op 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ST keeps returning characters after they die. What message are they sending to the fans who have never seen a human coe back after death.

    • @PeoplecallmeLucifer
      @PeoplecallmeLucifer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DanielBrown-sn9op IDk I never died yet

  • @PREPFORIT
    @PREPFORIT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The Iconians make great Allies. If you play your diplomatic cards right.

    • @e.m.b.5090
      @e.m.b.5090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Also, L'Miren is Best Girl of STO.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@e.m.b.5090 10/10 would smash.

    • @velnz5475
      @velnz5475 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I really hope they bring the species into Star Trek Disco. I mean, its pretty obvious they have gateway tech and STO is never if at all acknowledged in the shows... it would be nice to see an Iconian maybe who escaped via time travel and lost its memory or a little nod to them being there. I guess it would break the whole burn plot but lets be honest here the burn plot wasnt that strong to begin with anyways.

    • @JDEhlert
      @JDEhlert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@velnz5475 Well, if the Iconians are still around somewhere, the search for an alternate form of travel beyond dilithium powered drive systems will definitely attract their attention. (And yes, at this point they have dilithium...but on one planet...giving them a breather, not a final answer).

  • @timurkotulic3948
    @timurkotulic3948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Why does this interest me so much more than actual History...

  • @squallofthedai
    @squallofthedai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Iconian War arc was one of the most awesome storylines for STO, damned shame that this isn't considered canon.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, it is unclear. Similar event definitely did happen. It was strongly implied that Sphere Builders/Ancient Humanoids/Preservers (they look identical) were Iconians. My personal explanation is that Iconians from STO could be branch what augmented itself to survive subspace. BTW T'Kon and Icon read almost the same.

  • @MisterSixty
    @MisterSixty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My head is spinning!!!
    This was actually MORE entertaining than any of the recent Star Trek movies!!!!

  • @BurningFlamesofDivineDragon
    @BurningFlamesofDivineDragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very detailed explanation making the events of the Iconian War easier to understand. Amazing too how Sela just kept escaping until she was placed in a Federation prison facility.

  • @KleinMeme
    @KleinMeme 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome storyline, in my opinion. SO much better than the stuff that was recently on TV.

  • @briankriens5645
    @briankriens5645 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Some of the best Trek stories of any era. Only the return of the DS9 crew againsrt the Hurq compare. STO is one of the best games ever IMHO.

  • @golgarisoul
    @golgarisoul 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm still suspecting that the next major Star Trek plotline after the Icoions is gonna be the Time Cold War.

    • @Corbomite_Meatballs
      @Corbomite_Meatballs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well, now you have the Year of the Klingon...which is probably going to take a year.

    • @reservedsnow3224
      @reservedsnow3224 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Corbomite_Meatballs jm'pok go brrrrrrrrr!

    • @michaelgreenwood3413
      @michaelgreenwood3413 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@reservedsnow3224 More "Bleeeeehhhh" *thud*

  • @e.m.b.5090
    @e.m.b.5090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Up until he passes through the time portal, Kagran is as Klingon as they come. Due to the nature of the temporal displacement, he enters the time portal only moments before the player, but arrives in ancient Iconia weeks before us. In this time, he becomes a changed man: He is calm, almost pacifistic, and very willing to give the Iconians every benefit of the doubt in regards to their nature. He is, to put it bluntly, chill. And everyone on the internet knows what causes this kind of personality shift in a man. If one also considers the fact that there is only one "warrior woman" to be found in the entirety of Iconian society (and it is implied that her attitude alienates her peers, making her probably somewhat socially isolated), there is only one possible conclusion that can be drawn from the events of "Midnight": Kagran hooked up with T'Ket.

  • @fatmaninparadise
    @fatmaninparadise 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Story actually involves time travel and time line manipulation.
    "I'm a little hazy on the order of the events...."
    (picard_double_facepalm.gif)

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wonder where the Iconian War ranks in comparison to other wars Starfleet has been in, both in terms of importance and total amount of casualties, deaths, and overall devastation.
    For reference the other major wars Starfleet has been in are: The Earth-Romulan War, The 1st Federation-Klingon War, The Kzinti Wars, The Cardassian Border Wars, The 2nd Fed-Klingon War, The Dominion War, and The 3rd Fed-Klingon War.

    • @admiraljetro8783
      @admiraljetro8783 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I'd say the most. The Iconian War involved every faction we know of in Star Trek, more than likely, the casualties were from the millions to perhaps more

    • @samuelcp100
      @samuelcp100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@admiraljetro8783 you can easily make it up to trillions

    • @samuelcp100
      @samuelcp100 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think Starfleet never dealt with that level of danger since the Xindi war.

  • @brianstiles1701
    @brianstiles1701 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I'm still so confused... STO lore has gotten so intricate.

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are you confused? I would like to explain. Well until STO get the shuttle missions unbugged.

    • @starliner2498
      @starliner2498 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ucallit 71 wot?

    • @starliner2498
      @starliner2498 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Ucallit 71 well to be honest I haven't touched STO for a while now so I'm bit out of the loop

  • @AIConstantine
    @AIConstantine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    If the Dyson sphere encompasses the Iconia system, then it jumped to the beta quadrant, not the alpha quadrant.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro ปีที่แล้ว

      I think it is new Iconia. Actual Iconia is Romulan space. Here it is worth to remind that that there is clear connection between T'Kon and Icon (it is most likely same word). Ancient Humanoids (Preservers and Sphere Builders) and Iconians are most likely same specie. But some number of Iconians survived in the subspace (they probably were augmented to do so, what explain different look) and now try reclaim they empire. The reason why they can't time travel (despite that being core of the conflict) is that they Machines cut them from that (in canon both Romulus and T'Kon were destroyed by supernova, caused by Iconian aka they own Machines).

    • @AIConstantine
      @AIConstantine ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheRezro I don’t recall the exact context of my original comment, but if we’re talking about a Dyson sphere em passing the Iconia system, specifically the original Iconia system like it does in the game, then it would be the Beta Quadrant, since that’s where the Iconia system - and most of the Romulan Empire - is. Interesting theory crafting on your part, though.

    • @AIConstantine
      @AIConstantine ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah, yeah. It’s around minute 9:10. The Andromeda sphere jumped to the Iconia system. Rick, incorrectly, says that the Iconia system is in the Alpha Quadrant. It’s not. It’s in the Beta Quadrant.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AIConstantine Theory? It is in TNG episode. Where they discover Iconia in Romulan space. Picard telling legend state that Iconian capital was bombarded by "jealous neighbors" (in slave/machine rebellion), later also reveling that story is told from they point of view. In Beta canon sources Iconian diaspora survived escaping through gates prior to bombardment (possibly on previously terraformed planters). Andromedan iconians are they colony, what survived fall. Not the original iconians. BTW: Guardians of Forever also exist in Andromeda Galaxy. What is confirmed by Devils Heart. Another interesting coincidence.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AIConstantine And yes. Romulan Empire is in Beta Quadrant.

  • @captainspire9094
    @captainspire9094 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What CBS should have been done was make the events progressing in STOL into a TV series. Talk about brining all the story and characters of STNG, DS9, and VOY into another 5 year long run. Depth, complexity, and a solid ending that made sense. But no, we got STD, STP and Lower Decks. Thank you for this overview of a really good story. It's about the only reason I keep playing the game.

    • @virtualpellot933
      @virtualpellot933 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I like ST: Picard but Discovery is slow for me (albeit I heard it gets better by season 2 and especially season 3) and Lower Decks just plains sucks like ya said. The only part I liked from Lower Decks was when Riker appeared with the Titan and kicks some butt.

  • @mbierranger1379
    @mbierranger1379 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very nice way to tell the story while playing, really enjoy watching your STO videos. Please keep going, i am looking forward to the next one :-)

  • @hemaccabe4292
    @hemaccabe4292 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    If you're missing Star Trek, I invite Trekkers to enjoy a completely free novel, just Google Star Trek Lost Destiny.

  • @seanwolslau-holdren6731
    @seanwolslau-holdren6731 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't wait for more of your brilliant episodes.

  • @LordProteus
    @LordProteus 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish the Iconian War lasted longer, like the originally intended. It felt like after all the build-up they just came and went.

    • @dealerofic3cream1
      @dealerofic3cream1 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to write exactly this. The end part felt rushed.

  • @kenminick
    @kenminick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for the great content Rick. I love your stuff.

  • @lizardmilk
    @lizardmilk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well done summering the Iconian war.

  • @cwiggy34
    @cwiggy34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The scariest and my favorite storyline.

  • @kristofbe1
    @kristofbe1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great series, well done, sir.

  • @hunterpdx7061
    @hunterpdx7061 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't really played STO since the DS9 arc ended, just before Discovery I think. I have very fond memories of playing through the Iconian War arc.

    • @patricklenigan4309
      @patricklenigan4309 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. Really wish they didn't remove the big Dominion section of that.

  • @samuelcp100
    @samuelcp100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It will either be the tenporal cold war or another dominion war note: we don't know what kind of deal sela made with the dominion, every power in the alpha quadrant is in shambles and let's point out that Daniel's didn't appear in this arc indicating that this event is what made time manipulation acceptable by the federation.

    • @BlueSatoshi
      @BlueSatoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We have some idea: It likely amounted to "Help us fight off the Iconians because sooner or later they'll come for you too."
      Plus you can just scan through the episode list to get an idea on how things are gonna play out.

  • @occultatumquaestio5226
    @occultatumquaestio5226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:10 ; With the Iconian War lasting between 6 to 8 months. I wonder if the gameplay mechanic that allows for the player-character's ship to travel as cruising speeds of Transwarp 20 and max speeds as fast as near Transwarp 50 to be a canon technological development in the ingame lore?

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can get Transwarp 14 with assimilated subtranswarp engine or temporal initiative Warp engine. They are really good for grinding up EC with tour the galaxy.

    • @BlueSatoshi
      @BlueSatoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Around that point the Quantum Slipstream Drive became standard issue on starships; not as fast as the one on Voyager but much more reliable. That along with the Iconian Gateway Network being reactivated significantly cut down on travel time, but they never really elaborate on it. Presumably this is how everyone's able to zip back and forth across the explored Delta Quadrant in such a short timeframe. The sector map compresses things to an absurd degree. (Side note: The Gamma Quadrant's similarly, but less egregiously not to scale, one "sector" actually being 100 ly instead of 20.)
      The Federation's also set up a rudimentary transwarp gate system, based on the Borg's transwarp hub, but that might've been retconned. There's a transwarp gate over New Romulus though.

    • @occultatumquaestio5226
      @occultatumquaestio5226 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cmdrtianyilin8107 ; One can get, the adaptive M.A.C.O. Impulse Engines as well to acquire Transwarp 14.

    • @cmdrtianyilin8107
      @cmdrtianyilin8107 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Jope Lamp meanwhile, someone from Section 31 was clapping while holding the similar device Taris used to blow up Romulan Star.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I got a ship with more standard cores to go warp 12.

  • @BlueSatoshi
    @BlueSatoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Long story short...
    It's all Sela's fault. All of it.

    • @leviosdraekion6993
      @leviosdraekion6993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      As well as certain parts of the Temporal Cold War that are direct results of the Iconian War which was caused by her.

    • @defies4626
      @defies4626 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      She shouldn't have pressed the time-travel button.

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tell me that they do get to just out right kill her?

    • @leviosdraekion6993
      @leviosdraekion6993 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddrake5991 if I remember correctly no.

    • @BlueSatoshi
      @BlueSatoshi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@daviddrake5991 You'll wish you could.

  • @spsniper1170
    @spsniper1170 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fascinating story

  • @hmshood319
    @hmshood319 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great vid

  • @Peregrine57
    @Peregrine57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm about 2 missions into the Iconian war now, and with the benefit of the summer event kit modules, it's quite the experience. Missions that Ric struggled with a few weeks back have been a breeze. Harold forces appear, and promptly die as lava erupts from the ground below them and ball lightning scatters all around. I used the Risian weather control ship on the Delta Flight mission last night, because it's a bit more maneuverable than my dreadnought.
    I wouldn't say that the Risian kits are OP, necessarily; The new House Mo'Kai missions were not freebees. But I don't think I'm intended to use them for these missions. I've so far been just walking through them.

    • @Peregrine57
      @Peregrine57 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jope Lamp I don't think the AI has a counter kit, no. The summer event kits are new, and the older chapters are somewhat static, and don't seem to get adjusted much. Some of the newer missions that I haven't gotten to yet might be more difficult. Like I said, the new stuff wasn't a cake walk. But once you hit the level cap, the early and mid chapters are fairly static, and the summer event kits make them a breeze. They have a significant cool-down to balance, though, so you can't just spam "The Floor is Lava". It's best to save it for a pinch or a boss fight. There are higher difficulty options, if you're into that sort of thing. Your ship can take critical damage, and you and your bridge officers can sustain serious injuries that you need to play through until you can apply a fix, or get to a starbase. But I'm mostly here for the story, so I play on 'Normal'.

    • @daviddrake5991
      @daviddrake5991 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish I could get there. >< Not able to get a shuttle for 2 of my guys.

  • @deathstrike
    @deathstrike 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Didn't L'Miren tell the Federation to come back in one or two thousand years? After the memory of it has healed and Iconia is back to its former glory? I think they really want contact but after the war, they certainly wouldn't be welcomed. I wished it was different, Iconia seemed like a better choice for a Federation member than an enemy. It was said they had a prime directive too. But it was stricter and had more requirements.

    • @vexile1239
      @vexile1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I always felt bad for the Iconians especially the very aggressive one (I forget her name)

    • @starliner2498
      @starliner2498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@vexile1239 T'ket is the name, consumed by hatred

    • @vexile1239
      @vexile1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@starliner2498 thanks

  • @Lord_Shadowz
    @Lord_Shadowz ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this video!!! I had no idea it was the iconians that destroyed the Hobus star! It makes sense!

  • @maybetoby
    @maybetoby ปีที่แล้ว

    Gotta hand it to Star Trek Online attempting to wrap up all those dangling plot threads.

  • @TastyGamingQc
    @TastyGamingQc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Anyone remember when your ship goes down and shows the Omega logo ?
    As a long time fan of the shows and comics I was freaking out at the idea my ship sensors just picked up an Omega particle and was now making me follow the directive according to the lore.

  • @Corbomite_Meatballs
    @Corbomite_Meatballs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Delta Rising series, along with the Iconian War arc, were mainly your efforts to clean up things after Insaneway's tear through the Delta quad and the fallout from it.

  • @MLPDethDealr32
    @MLPDethDealr32 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It figures out of all the Delta Quadrant races to hold a grudge, the KAZON would be number one on the list XD.

  • @marna_li
    @marna_li 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should have made this arc into a series instead of Picard with the help from the people behind the game.

  • @messengerguardiansparanorm8606
    @messengerguardiansparanorm8606 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very entertaining. I wonder if STP will do anything with some of this. Ultimately, something is going to have to justify the Temporal Cold War and the Great Burn, as is now in cannon from Enterprise and STD.

  • @explorer47422
    @explorer47422 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    STO lore is like fan canon run amok - Hey the Iconians were a cool concept, but let's bring in the Vadwauur, but WAIT! It was the parasitic aliens all along!

  • @benjaminromshak2921
    @benjaminromshak2921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is what Star Trek and CBS should be doing..the lead up, along with the entire Iconian war..you could def get 7 seasons. Jus don’t make it “OMEGA WOKE” and follow jus a basic formula from the game and BAM, we have a good Star Trek show again.

    • @vexile1239
      @vexile1239 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      But that would involve "critical thinking" and "common-sense" something most of those movie producers lack thinking that by pandering to a loud mouth minority (who would never watch the show) they make more money

  • @warwickben
    @warwickben ปีที่แล้ว

    Be cool if they did a show around the war .

  • @Lilmiket1000
    @Lilmiket1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thats some story! would have been nice to see that as a movie or show. wow

  • @ladwigs
    @ladwigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A new animated series, combining TNG DS9 & Voyager, might be interesting

  • @xsailor85
    @xsailor85 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:24 Except the Kazon. They were still mad at Voyager.🤭😆🤣

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One question I have regarding the destruction of the preserver archive. When we (the player) beamed out following the death of the preserver, did we bring the body? Or did we leave it lying there on the floor? Because if I remember correctly, the archive was encoded into their dna, and could be reconstituted from it. Much like the Iconian’s World Heart.

    • @TheRezro
      @TheRezro ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean. Humans technically have similar DNA... what BTW is why Iconian Gates/Machine Federation (look V'Ger) show interest in Humanity (what also could be true reason for Romulan War). So we can assume that Federation has no access to that data and archive itself was only access terminal. BTW Preservers/T'Kon and Icon are most likely the same. My guess is that STO Iconians were augmented to survive in subspace.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No the T'Kon and Iconians are different. Their tech operates completely different.

  • @yazanbaddawi9683
    @yazanbaddawi9683 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Still better than Discovery and Picard 😉

  • @nobodyyouknow1065
    @nobodyyouknow1065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I liked this arc a lot but I prefer smaller scale plots in general in Trek.

    • @Janoha17
      @Janoha17 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lower stakes carry more emotional weight.

  • @keirfarnum6811
    @keirfarnum6811 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Alliance should have just sent in the modified, voracious tribbles. That would stop the Iconians cold. 😁

  • @ThatanOmega
    @ThatanOmega 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Just only realising what an incredible Star Trek series or few series this would make. Would make STD even more flimsy canon wise though.

  • @larfleezeking2829
    @larfleezeking2829 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:10 hey look, its the khan mayker

  • @trekker105
    @trekker105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I wish this game wasn't an MMO so I could actually play it

  • @TheNoiseySpectator
    @TheNoiseySpectator ปีที่แล้ว

    5:30 WHOA, HOLD ON! Time out for a moment!
    Was all this how the online game was set up at the beginning, or did the game evolve through all this, initiated by the players, as the game progressed over several months, or even a few years, real world time?
    😵

    • @thomasjoychild4962
      @thomasjoychild4962 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The story so far took from release to 2015ish in real world time, coming out bit by bit.

  • @procyon6370
    @procyon6370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's insane that they brought back the parasites from Conspiracy

  • @sceneinvegas
    @sceneinvegas 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the whole of Iconia, inside the Sphere....

    • @808INFantry11X
      @808INFantry11X 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a Dyson sphere the theory is that inside the sphere its a self contained world and even solar system at times

    • @sceneinvegas
      @sceneinvegas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@808INFantry11X yah we are aware, thanks

    • @velnz5475
      @velnz5475 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well Iconians dont necessarily need to be anywhere particular, just a few hubs and they're happy. I would be too if you could go anywhere by walking through a portal. As for the world heart... eh... theres probably a strict copying law in Iconia. They didnt bring up the fact it had been chronologically disturbed but hey... the power of the sun in the palm of my hand.

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@velnz5475the World heart doesn't operate like an Iconian mind. It's just data storage.

  • @4eversquidsisters266
    @4eversquidsisters266 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I’m curious
    How will the Terran empire fare against the iconians? How will the war play out?

    • @starleighpersonal
      @starleighpersonal 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They didn’t return the world heart and instead used to to mass produce tech that outclassed iconians

    • @vexile1239
      @vexile1239 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Terran reputation tiers has what occurs during the Terran Iconian war

  • @cristian-ionutapostol8018
    @cristian-ionutapostol8018 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kim made Captain? HERESY!

  • @thatrealba
    @thatrealba 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great overview.

  • @darthdragonborn1076
    @darthdragonborn1076 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish the iconian weapons were stronger than what they are now, however the arc was really fun to play

    • @tomasr.
      @tomasr. 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Play on elite, than herald's transphasics spread in space or defiler's smash on ground can one-shot you.

  • @Cdr2002
    @Cdr2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    CAPTAIN Harry Kim!
    That’s what I’m talking about!

  • @SapphireCrusader1988
    @SapphireCrusader1988 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Only six months? Damn, Iconians don't fuck around.

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also there are mentions of Federation worlds being lost to the Iconians, but there are no details.

  • @Xel963
    @Xel963 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good Video. Very enjoyable.

  • @Ryo-sj8wn
    @Ryo-sj8wn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really hope that the Alliance decide to help the Sphere Builders undo the damage to the timeline that the Alliance did using the time ship & causing the sphere builders to be temporally removed from the time line. Since it was the alliances fault for committing this genocide by erasing millions of people from the universe it is only fair that the help the Sphere Builders fix the timeline & bring back the millions of people from the Sphere Builder race called the Tuterians.

    • @Ryo-sj8wn
      @Ryo-sj8wn 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jope Lamp Huh??? What the frick are you talking about?? Do you even STO bro?

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ryo-sj8wn in canon they don't, and let's consider this, if they were saved the Temporal Wars would have been severely lessened if not completely destroyed, and that's an integral part of the timeline that actually gave the klingons cloaking devices for example.

    • @Ryo-sj8wn
      @Ryo-sj8wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isleapyhunter930 Yeah but we have to treat them as the bad guys even though they aren't the bad guys at all they are just trying to undo what the alliance did to them. They are just lucky they had time travel tech also or they would be wiped from existence all together, if the Temp War is over that then they are the victims not the baddies & what was done to them should be undone. The alliance never even used the Krenim time-ship after their initial failure so it would be simple to fix the time-line by just doing what they did in voyager & cause the ship to erase itself from history. They could temporally shield a Data node/pad with info on what had happened so that the people in the repaired time-line knew not to used the Krenim time-ship & so they would also know what to do to make the Iconian war turn out as it had before. The timeline wouldn't be altered very much as things would play out in the Iconian War the same way only the damage to the Sphere Builders/Tuterians would be undone & they would be part of the universe/time again.

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ryo-sj8wn as I mentioned before, the klingons wouldn't have aquired the cloaking device, and there is other stuff that is very important to the timeline that only happened because of the temporal war...it needed to happen, just like the time travel with Empress Sela.

    • @Ryo-sj8wn
      @Ryo-sj8wn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@isleapyhunter930 So your saying that tech advances are more important than the lives of billions? I'm sure they could work out how to get the other stuff after undoing the damage the did to those people.

  • @brianjohnson5272
    @brianjohnson5272 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your timeline might be a little hazy?! Was that a joke? It's time travel and all missions are relative.

    • @TheNecropolis20
      @TheNecropolis20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      at Brian Johnson -
      also when he said that - " the Iconians cant operate there own time travel technology because they had evolved and become ascended beings "
      so they need Humans to operate there Iconian Time travel technology.
      I thought this was fascinating, i liked learning this little bit right here.

    • @brianjohnson5272
      @brianjohnson5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNecropolis20swing and a miss as the time travel joke is completely missed.

    • @TheNecropolis20
      @TheNecropolis20 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      at Brian Johnson -
      it is hazy in the sense that he simply says that it happened over 6 months in the year 2410 so hes not really sure on the exact start and end date of the Iconian -Federation War of 2410.
      " My timeline of the Iconian war might be a little hazy "
      I think it was a Joke , a very clever joke

    • @brianjohnson5272
      @brianjohnson5272 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheNecropolis20 again you missed the joke. All time travel missions are realitive a.k.a the theory of realitivity.

  • @redshirt0479
    @redshirt0479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ah STO's story. It's fun, but stripping it down to get the explanation into under a half hour really makes it feel like fan fiction, which it admittedly kind of is. Fun self-insert fan fiction.
    Looking forward to more of the story series though, no idea what comes next since most of the stuff I've seen on STO kind of goes silent after the Iconian War arc.

  • @aiosquadron
    @aiosquadron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iconian War Series. Aka.
    2020: The Arc

  • @tcsmagicbox
    @tcsmagicbox 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    'Hectic' was putting it mildly.

  • @INWMI
    @INWMI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    0:12 wtf was that, these are the titans from an rts game known as sins of the empire

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the ships? they are Iconian ships...

  • @TairnKA
    @TairnKA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about the evolution of the Ocampa?

  • @virtualpellot933
    @virtualpellot933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I hope this happens on Star Trek:Picard or another new series that takes place during and after Picard. This would be insane.

  • @deltadom33
    @deltadom33 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Discovery would actually be lethal like the iconians if it wasn’t boring and stupid
    Why can’t they make this into an actual tv series

  • @mittensfastpaw
    @mittensfastpaw 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I miss good Star Trek.

  • @Corvus__
    @Corvus__ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's your end theme called?

    • @sagesheahan6732
      @sagesheahan6732 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr?

    • @Corvus__
      @Corvus__ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sagesheahan6732 Do you know what it's called?

  • @nutzeeer
    @nutzeeer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if the krenim weapon was destroyed again the iconians would have stayed dead with the world heart in some bad guys posession?

  • @0SgtRoadkill0
    @0SgtRoadkill0 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there ever any chance of a TFOs with Rick day?

  • @ladwigs
    @ladwigs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Iconians died before Voyager

  • @bigdaddydons6241
    @bigdaddydons6241 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah let's just move OUR ENTIRE FUCKING SYSTEM into the alpha quadrant

  • @marvinhuth4487
    @marvinhuth4487 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    in another universe i'd might be critical if this, going out of my way to point out that this is "mass halo" and not star trek. problem is....it's way better than what we have seen on "TV" in the last years in terms of star trek.....it respects canon and is aware it subverts tone in favor of narrative structure dictated by the medium....

  • @AG-nh5mi
    @AG-nh5mi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hold up how is Neelix not an official Ambassador?

  • @jamoore2581
    @jamoore2581 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What star trek game is that and is it only for pc

  • @cerickson017
    @cerickson017 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Were the Borg ever consulted in defeating the Iconians? And if not, did the Iconians ever engage the Borg?

    • @isleapyhunter930
      @isleapyhunter930 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as Seven of Nine said "even the borg couldn't defeat the Iconians...

  • @prashank
    @prashank ปีที่แล้ว

    This feels so much like Halo

    • @sagesheahan6732
      @sagesheahan6732 ปีที่แล้ว

      not really

    • @barrybend7189
      @barrybend7189 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the Iconians my be comparable to the Forerunners but nothing else.

  • @Captain_p0wer
    @Captain_p0wer ปีที่แล้ว

    Klingon intelligence 😂

  • @edbrackin
    @edbrackin 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long does this all take ITRW playing on your PC?

  • @smartbox8945
    @smartbox8945 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love it

  • @user-ew5wg8ty8b
    @user-ew5wg8ty8b 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Say it with me, Worf was right!

  • @ajac009
    @ajac009 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish they would smooth out the animations characters act so stiff in the game still.

  • @EZ-D-FIANT
    @EZ-D-FIANT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What game is all this off?

  • @thaq8.2
    @thaq8.2 ปีที่แล้ว

    K Ewald defence