Your comment about grabbing a non switched hotline is spot on. A dealer installed both mine and my neighbors on lines which were on the pump switches. Rather than rewire it, we both have a check list to look at the active indicator light on the AGS unit itself.
Solder on small conductors that vibrate will break the conductors off is why most auto makers do not use it. Another great video, thank you for making the video. Stay safe. It is only a mistake if someone else sees it, if you find it before anyone else seeing it then it was OJT. (on the job training)
ok you just won my business, when I'm in the area I will look you up for a project I want done. It has nothing to do with electric, lol, I just appreciate your honesty.
@@AZExpert Thanks for the reply, I have a 2019 Flagstaff microlite 22FBRS with an enclosed underbelly & I'd like the water tank supports to be beefed up, not something I feel up to, but needs to be done.
Great tip with the needle nose and shorts. Looks like a good system. Nice to watch and learn from somebody who knows what he is doing, thank you. Great troubleshooting the wiring, you did that on purpose for my benefit. Happy trails!
Great video James! Very interesting following your setup process and problem solving logic. Also how you used the needle nose pliers to close a circuit to start/stop the generator intrigued me. I’ve never seen this before. Thanks so much.
Absolutely love your channel! It helps me DIY my 2008 40-ft diesel pusher. When I make it to Arizona I'll try to get your shop to service some of the things I can't do myself. Thanks a million for your videos.
Great job very honest, "I like crimp connections better than solder, as long as you have a good pair of crimpers you're fine", ends it with these crimpers are from Harbor Freight🙃🤣
Funny you say this about even manufacturers changing up harnesses. The local winnebago dealer was fixing my volta system, and another customer had winnebago travato there for awning extending while driving recall which my 59gl had already done. Well I offered tech to check my coach cause the winnebago change paperwork wasn't matching up with that coach. Well just like you said the markings on wires were wrong on that travato someone made a mistake building harness at factory it was wired correctly just using identifications where wrong so they used mine and counted the pin/wire numbers out on mine and matched them to their travato. You know normal winnebago issues. 😂
Thanks bro, always wondered if tech exists for this... Awesome video... Cant wait to get our 2007 Tiffin Phaeton 40 qsh to see if this is already installed or not... Peace, love and cheer!
Another great video Thanks! I have a generater that has never started for me from inside, they may have disconnected wireing to switch, I'll check that out in the Spring. It has always started outside so it wasn't to much of a worry, but I'll check it. Thanks
@@AZExpert lol....I only remember doing it once, but with my memory.....I could have done it more times. Actually I was filling it with oil and accidentally hit the start switch. I got a good oil bath that day.
Actually a slightly crooked decal will catch your eye quickly and be more likely to be seen and not overlooked. It stands out like the a sore thumb. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Lol
Excellent video. I wonder what would be the result if the generator failed to start. Or if it runs out of fuel. I suppose it has a timeout and / or retry sequence?
I didn't cover it but, it will try 4-5 times with a 2-4 minute break inbetween starts. After the last time, it will lock out with a red flashing LED. Good question
This is interesting. The auto start board in the Wanderlodge is unsupported and the company is out of business. I had a wire brake down in the loom that kept mine from starting last year. That's when I figured out what was going on with the board. Took me a while to find the brake. I almost bought a used board off someone. The model (on the instructions) where it senses a 12 volt wall wart is about the same as the board in my coach now. Only thing I have to think on it the coach has about 4 start, stop panels. Looks like I could parallel them?
can you set start range to 12.9-13Volts? Or is max 12 volts? Looking for lifepo4 batteries; really want to keep them above 20% capacity for lifespan reasons; which typically means 13 Volts with their sharper drop-off's on voltage.
James you brought up a good question never thought about shutting off the auto gen start before changing oil I have the exact same Auto gen start and I think if connected to the Magnum remote how do you shut it off thank you
I have a WEN dual fuel 4750W generator, I want to connect it to my Xantrex AGS to it. The generator has a key start, so what do I need to it so the xantrex can tell it to start and stop? Relay? IDK
Great Video, My generator start button is on the dash. Would it be easier to mount it near the start button and then run the battery monitor wire to the house battery? The nearest house battery monitor in the coach is above the entry door. Thanks !!
Can you please help us connect our ME AGS-S directly to our Westinghouse 9500DF generator? It is for our off-grid solar system where our RV is parked. It would monitor a 24v battery bank with a SunGold 4000w inverter.
Just what I was looking for! I have a Winnebago Travato Class B with a QG 2800 Onan. I can pretty much exactly duplicate what you have done in the video (except for the mistake wiring of course!) and I should be good to go, correct? It is probably a 3 wire momentary switch I am assuming.
I have a question about air conditioner soft starters I want to have one installed on my trailer but the local dealer says they are bad for the condenser in the air conditioner got any input on this my good sir 😁
Hello Mr. Expert. I have been having problems with my LP Onan 3600 gen. I crank it and it almost never starts. I got it started today and ran for about 10 minutes and then it turned off. I have not been able to get it started again. I am considering putting a portable Dual Fuel Champion Gen in its place. IS it safe to run one of those if I secure it in the same place? Thanks.
@@AZExpert I am in Los Angeles and would like to know where would be a good place to take it so it can get fixed. Can you please advise. I would even be willing to drive it to your neck of the woods because you may know someone there or even have you fix it. Please let me know.
James, What are the chances that the owner told you they set the dip switches(didn’t do that) but took out the jumper? So this is how the gens auto start and stop for need for AC. Thanks for the video. Kevin
my understanding is the remote is a temp sensor and if you set the temp settings on the module it would start the generator, but of course the tstat would have to be on too
Mistake! What's that? "Oh I never make a mistake", well then you're not doing anything, we all make them glad you showed how easy it is to get a couple wires in the wrong places. At least Magnum has a pretty good install manual. I love the ones that state "some assembly required"
Another great video. Trying to learn how to do things myself on my RV. Have a few items out of my wheelhouse I'd like you to take a look at when I'm in the area in a month or two. Of course, if youre interested. Anyway to contact you?
I can’t seem to get mine to sense the gen? I noticed you had the start/stop wired wrong and that seemed to do the trick. I have tried every configuration very frustrating.
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Showing your mistake instead of hiding it from us shows your honesty and integrity!
one of the few mistakes
Yes .. thanks for letting us know your human..honestly is a virtue!!
Your comment about grabbing a non switched hotline is spot on. A dealer installed both mine and my neighbors on lines which were on the pump switches. Rather than rewire it, we both have a check list to look at the active indicator light on the AGS unit itself.
I'm sorry to hear that. I have made so many mistakes so I understand
Before watching your video I thought I needed to wire this to the generator itself. Your video made it look much easier and I will attempt it myself.
Good Luck!
Solder on small conductors that vibrate will break the conductors off is why most auto makers do not use it. Another great video, thank you for making the video. Stay safe. It is only a mistake if someone else sees it, if you find it before anyone else seeing it then it was OJT. (on the job training)
that's been my experience too.
ok you just won my business, when I'm in the area I will look you up for a project I want done. It has nothing to do with electric, lol, I just appreciate your honesty.
Sounds great!
@@AZExpert Thanks for the reply, I have a 2019 Flagstaff microlite 22FBRS with an enclosed underbelly & I'd like the water tank supports to be beefed up, not something I feel up to, but needs to be done.
Thank you, another great video. Lots of help for the rest of us who are not techs.....
Thanks for watching!
Great tip with the needle nose and shorts. Looks like a good system. Nice to watch and learn from somebody who knows what he is doing, thank you. Great troubleshooting the wiring, you did that on purpose for my benefit. Happy trails!
Thanks for watching!
Great video, really like seeing these projects as you complete them and talk us through.
Glad you like them!
Great video James! Very interesting following your setup process and problem solving logic. Also how you used the needle nose pliers to close a circuit to start/stop the generator intrigued me. I’ve never seen this before. Thanks so much.
Thanks, thats really all the switch contacts are doing in the housing and easier to see.
Another great video - teaches us to Not throw in the towel, but to check, re-check & check again. Thank you!!
Always!
Good job, Onan on the human interface factors in wiring color choice...of course everyone would assume that green is stop!
green is obiviously stop it's universal :)
That was cool. No jumper 🤦🏼 don’t forget to replace the one in the thermostat. Good video, I learned something 😊
Good call!
Glad nothing was damaged! No worries, we all make mistakes. Thanks for bringing us along.
Thanks 👍
Good on ya for showing your mistake, that's what makes me want to come back to you for additional work, as Rick said HONESTY AND INTEGRITY!!!!!
thank you
@@AZExpert Hope to hear from you soon . . .
Absolutely love your channel! It helps me DIY my 2008 40-ft diesel pusher. When I make it to Arizona I'll try to get your shop to service some of the things I can't do myself. Thanks a million for your videos.
thank you very much
Check and recheck, a sign of great work ethic and experienced technician.
thank you!
I really enjoy watching your videos I think you are extremely knowledgeable and greatly appreciate you sharing your info
I appreciate that!
Great video! Electronic components rarely leave any wiggle room for error.
Very true!
I like it when very smart people make a mistake😏 , funny, and to admit it, you did a great job,👍😉
Thanks! 😃
Great job very honest, "I like crimp connections better than solder, as long as you have a good pair of crimpers you're fine", ends it with these crimpers are from Harbor Freight🙃🤣
They work great! No need to spend a lot to get decent tools
Funny you say this about even manufacturers changing up harnesses.
The local winnebago dealer was fixing my volta system, and another customer had winnebago travato there for awning extending while driving recall which my 59gl had already done. Well I offered tech to check my coach cause the winnebago change paperwork wasn't matching up with that coach. Well just like you said the markings on wires were wrong on that travato someone made a mistake building harness at factory it was wired correctly just using identifications where wrong so they used mine and counted the pin/wire numbers out on mine and matched them to their travato.
You know normal winnebago issues. 😂
Great video. Thanks for showing this install.
Thank you!
Nice job! Gave me the confidence to install one on our coach.
Glad I could help!
Thanks bro, always wondered if tech exists for this... Awesome video... Cant wait to get our 2007 Tiffin Phaeton 40 qsh to see if this is already installed or not... Peace, love and cheer!
Glad to help
excellent video... I can relate more to the problem solving (mistake) than stupid videos which always show everything being perfect!
I make constant mistakes
Wire color, huh, my HR Endeavor used white wires for all wiring, poss and neg, so fun.
sounds about right
Thanks James! Great job.
Glad you liked it!
Keep um coming. Love all the videos. All very good information.
Thanks, will do!
Another great video Thanks! I have a generater that has never started for me from inside, they may have disconnected wireing to switch, I'll check that out in the Spring. It has always started outside so it wasn't to much of a worry, but I'll check it. Thanks
good luck!
Awesome job, Magnum should pay you for install videos
thank you, I'm sure they'd want someone that doesn't make mistakes
As always a great video and great information.
Thanks for watching
Good information! Personally I like independent systems instead of a all in one box.
Same here!
Stick to Roof Inspections ! LOL
We all make mistakes. Good video
Thanks 👍
your a great RV Technician . Im glad you make these video's . this AGS really helped my install.
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching!
Nice Job James! Would this system work & be easy to install in a 1998 Monaco Windsor with Onan 7500 diesel gen? Old RC6 controller.
Yes it will. it's a manual systems so it does not interface with the inverter
@@AZExpert thanks! How much to install it from you? I can come to you.
Sure is neat when your working on one like I have!!
It's fun seeing these units again. They were very intimidating when I started in 1999, but then again, I learn something new on this too
You are truly an amazing technician..
Thanks James very good content
thank you
Awesome video! Loved it!
Thanks so much!
Sounds like I am not the only one to remove a dipstick out of an Onan Gen while it is running. The mess is impressive.
Man, it took more than four times to learn that leason. :)
@@AZExpert lol....I only remember doing it once, but with my memory.....I could have done it more times. Actually I was filling it with oil and accidentally hit the start switch. I got a good oil bath that day.
Thanks for making videos.
Glad you like them!
Appreciate the videos!
Glad you like them!
I finally found something you can't do well....
Install decals straight... LOL
it is straight, the green section is angled on the generator
@@AZExpert LOL
Actually a slightly crooked decal will catch your eye quickly and be more likely to be seen and not overlooked. It stands out like the a sore thumb. That's my story and I'm sticking to it. Lol
Excellant video. Manual available online says there is a temp sensor it the switch for non-networked model. True or not? Thor touts this as an option.
Thanks for showing your mistake! I was wanting to know if this will work for my predator 3500 generator?
Excellent video. I wonder what would be the result if the generator failed to start.
Or if it runs out of fuel. I suppose it has a timeout and / or retry sequence?
I didn't cover it but, it will try 4-5 times with a 2-4 minute break inbetween starts. After the last time, it will lock out with a red flashing LED. Good question
That's a smart solution. Thanks.
This is interesting. The auto start board in the Wanderlodge is unsupported and the company is out of business. I had a wire brake down in the loom that kept mine from starting last year. That's when I figured out what was going on with the board. Took me a while to find the brake. I almost bought a used board off someone. The model (on the instructions) where it senses a 12 volt wall wart is about the same as the board in my coach now. Only thing I have to think on it the coach has about 4 start, stop panels. Looks like I could parallel them?
all the switches should ultimately go to the same remote harness
@@AZExpert right. Just passed the info to the WOG. Thanks for showing us. I never saw it before
James, you need to move to FL... :)
I was thinking West Virginia
can you set start range to 12.9-13Volts? Or is max 12 volts?
Looking for lifepo4 batteries; really want to keep them above 20% capacity for lifespan reasons; which typically means 13 Volts with their sharper drop-off's on voltage.
JAmes I know you said that you did not need to set up the ags for temperature but can you walk us through what needs to be done for the temp circuit?
James you brought up a good question never thought about shutting off the auto gen start before changing oil
I have the exact same Auto gen start and I think if connected to the Magnum remote how do you shut it off thank you
you have a "AGS" button on your remote. push it and turn the AGS off
Thank you still learning👍👍😀
I have a WEN dual fuel 4750W generator, I want to connect it to my Xantrex AGS to it. The generator has a key start, so what do I need to it so the xantrex can tell it to start and stop? Relay? IDK
Great Video, My generator start button is on the dash. Would it be easier to mount it near the start button and then run the battery monitor wire to the house battery? The nearest house battery monitor in the coach is above the entry door. Thanks !!
that would work
Can you please help us connect our ME AGS-S directly to our Westinghouse 9500DF generator? It is for our off-grid solar system where our RV is parked. It would monitor a 24v battery bank with a SunGold 4000w inverter.
Great video. Any chance of a follow-up video of it being used "in action"?
Ill work on it
Just what I was looking for! I have a Winnebago Travato Class B with a QG 2800 Onan. I can pretty much exactly duplicate what you have done in the video (except for the mistake wiring of course!) and I should be good to go, correct? It is probably a 3 wire momentary switch I am assuming.
you likely have a more complicated diesel so I would advise contacting magnum first to verify wiring for this generator.
@@AZExpert no it’s just a gas generator, fuel from van’s gas tank
if it has a standard rocker on off switch than it should be the same. if it has a LCD with a push button, it will be different.
Can you do a AGS on a 2016 Tiffin gasser with the 7 k Onan
yes this would work on that
@@AZExpert you don’t like a LED AGS
I've been trying to purchase Magnum Energy's Gen AutoStart Stand Alone for over a year. Everyone is out of stock. Do you have a source? Thanks, Rick
I have a question about air conditioner soft starters I want to have one installed on my trailer but the local dealer says they are bad for the condenser in the air conditioner got any input on this my good sir 😁
they should extend the life of the componets if anything. I'm surprised the manufacturers havent' licensed the tech yet
Ah now we know what happens if we make a mistake. Great video. I like mistakes
Thanks for watching! :)
Hello Mr. Expert. I have been having problems with my LP Onan 3600 gen. I crank it and it almost never starts. I got it started today and ran for about 10 minutes and then it turned off. I have not been able to get it started again. I am considering putting a portable Dual Fuel Champion Gen in its place. IS it safe to run one of those if I secure it in the same place? Thanks.
I would fix it first before swapping it. it's almost a $4000 generator.
@@AZExpert I am in Los Angeles and would like to know where would be a good place to take it so it can get fixed. Can you please advise. I would even be willing to drive it to your neck of the woods because you may know someone there or even have you fix it. Please let me know.
James, What are the chances that the owner told you they set the dip switches(didn’t do that) but took out the jumper?
So this is how the gens auto start and stop for need for AC. Thanks for the video. Kevin
my understanding is the remote is a temp sensor and if you set the temp settings on the module it would start the generator, but of course the tstat would have to be on too
Mistake! What's that? "Oh I never make a mistake", well then you're not doing anything, we all make them glad you showed how easy it is to get a couple wires in the wrong places. At least Magnum has a pretty good install manual. I love the ones that state "some assembly required"
it's a good system, thanks for watching
@@AZExpert Looks like the same one as on my 06 PT Beaver
Another great video. Trying to learn how to do things myself on my RV. Have a few items out of my wheelhouse I'd like you to take a look at when I'm in the area in a month or two. Of course, if youre interested. Anyway to contact you?
I appreciate that. Im currently overwhelmed and backed up until April now.
Enjoy the videos and enjoy the mistakes too. 😁😁😁😁
thank you
Thanks for the video! What was your total install time?
It was a two-hour install for billing, of course the video added time, but I didn't charge for that or to repair my mistake. Thanks
I can’t seem to get mine to sense the gen? I noticed you had the start/stop wired wrong and that seemed to do the trick. I have tried every configuration very frustrating.
Have you ever made a video on installing solar panels in an RV from start to finish?
th-cam.com/video/WM9Bq-7K-c0/w-d-xo.html you can watch me abuse a renogy system. :)
When in doubt, RTFM - applies to Unix & Linux tools AND RV repairs - who knew!!?? ;-)
lol
I have read soldering is not recommended for automotive applications. Crimping (if done using correct pliers) is more reliable.
that has been my experience too. solder can wick up and make wires brittle and guys like me tend to overheat and damage the insulation too
So what we have here is a battery minder! 👀😁
pretty much
and a inside temp minder if its set. the temp sensor is built into the remote switch.
Label went on a little crooked..but maybe that will make it stand out...
I know, it is straight just the housing is crooked
You are very talented at most things but applying stickers straight isn’t one of them.
Well it made ya notice eh? 🤣
Masha allh
Welcome?
I would hire you to do anything except apply stickers!
thanks, the housing is built at an angle
Lucky you didn't burn the unit out by miswiring it.
no, there was no chance of that
Thang you
You are welcome
All that and you put the sticker on crooked at the end 😩🤦🏼♂️
I'll try to do better Dave
Well all make mistake no big deal you didn't burn it down
I doubt I would have shown that :)
Dude. You never tested it to see if the it will work when the battery goes low. You don't know if it works.
I'm going to unsubscribed if you don't use a tripod ,you are not a camera man you are all over the place.
I am not a cameraman that is true