In 1982 we had 5 man tents just like this one, but smaller. We fastened the pole into the apex (before we left) with a piece of coat hanger. Sometimes we had the orange telescoping pole, but we still fastened the folding pole to the apex. One guy would just go inside and put the pole up. We had air mattresses which were set up to form "couches" during the day. We never kept the stove or lantern going at night, just used a chem light if needed. The stove and lantern keep the tent warm due to the liner. Your answers to some of the more inane comments were well done.
Anyone who went on exercise and lived under canvas in a static location will remember the immersion heaters that the fire piquet had to light at 0400 hrs. I always let a little too much gasoline drip before lighting the heater to get a loud WHOOOMP! that sounded like a mortar firing. Strangely, after a couple of times I was never given the duty again.
lol, did my basic in Cornwallis in 1988. Us recruits lived under bivvies and the NCO’s got a nice winter tent. Nothing like shaving with ice cold water. Fun times, fun times.
Almost identical kit to U.S Army Arctic Light Infantry circa 1980s-1990s (6th Inf. Division Alaska). No Coleman stove, rather a rectangular-prism shaped Yukon firebox stove burning mogas from an upside down jerry can elevated off the ground with a field expedient tripod. Also no white balaklavas, rather OD green ones. We also always wore Kevlar helmets on top of the belaklava, if in a tactical environment. Never went ANYWHERE without the k-pot on our heads: Train as you fight, as they say. No blow-up mattresses (poor Canadian Private who had to do that!) We used rolled up foam pads. Same exact basecamp procedures, tent set up/takedown and Ahkio sleds. We didn't have that big handle on our sleds. That would have been a nice feature. The guys in this video were REALLY good and fast at set up and takedown of that tent and packing up the Ahkio. Absolutely vital in combat and when it's friggin' -30 F.
The air mattress they had inflates almost full by itself, a couple of puffs then it's max'd out. Air mattress is FAR superior to foam in comfort and R Value. Smaller package too.
@@johnstacy7902 Not us. I remember using the same procedure explained in this video: Weapons kept outside with maybe one rifle kept inside the tent for security. Sweating weapons in that environment are not conducive to operating properly.
My most favorite and memorable experiences in the CAF was based around artic warfare, so much fun being sweaty and cold at the same time and walking like a duck in snow shoes. And the best is when someone from the previous ex filled the lantern fuel jerry with clp and it's too dark to realize half the camp already just poured it into the lanterns and now only 1 lights for 50 men lol.
I remember when we got the new gortex boots, they were certainly comfy, but the rubber soles froze, and were impossible to walk on hard packed or ice, what fun that was.
The white cammies are so clean and bright. Just give them a few weeks and that'll look a a lot different, especially if the stoves or lanterns are burning dirty. Also surprised to see plastic tent pegs. Never saw one in 12 years, always 10" spikes.
I got out in 2011, and every time I think "maybe I should re-enlist" I remember never being warm on winter Ex's....on 2nd thought, we'll leave it for the young-ins....
I noticed one soldier inflating his mattress by blowing into it. A big mistake in cold weather. Moisture in your breath can freeze inside the mattress rendering it useless. Do they not still have the carry sacks that doubled as an inflator?
We were instructed not to do that with the old air mattresses, that had the attached bag, due to moisture in your breath. Perhaps it's not an issue with the "self inflating" mattresses, that don't self inflate all that well in the winter.
@@RCD566 it's even more of an issue with "self inflating" mattresses. The foam inside that allows for self inflation freezes and it becomes difficult to even unroll the mattress. I believe they came with a carry sack that doubled as an inflation bag, as I have one that I picked up one on the surplus market.
@@dancancade7101 When I was in Germany, most of us got the US foam mattresses from the PX, cut the width down a bit and rolled them into our issued sleeping bag valise and stuffed the bag/bags in the middle. Oh the good old days😂🤣
thats one of those ideas that sounds nice on course but in reality there is no time to play around with a little bag. I was in 2 commando for 7 years and everyone i know always just blew up the blackbetty air matress or the newer therma rest with their mouth. we only ever got 3 or 4 hours sleep at best but usually less.
Coleman 425 Liquid Fuel Stove: www.colemancanada.ca/stoves-grills/multi-burner-stoves/guide-series-liquid-fuel-stove/SAP_3000003649.html Runs off of Naphtha (also known as Camping Fuel or White Gas) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha
It sounded like the old Finnish worldwar 2 Jäger Arctic tent copy ,what is word for that ? Only difference was that wood stove was now gas and toilet is called here riuku like a trees bind with big log. But i think There was many eXperienced finnish veterans running military schools after the big war. So it is evitable to be that way. Name like Marttinen ,Alakulppi ,even Larry Thorn alias Lauri Törni and many moore.
absurd, one man alone I could do this in 10 mins its a ice fishing tent style tent in 40 km gusts, on a open frozen lake, save time and energy, this is horrible timing. 5 people 30 mins each is nuts on a mountain or in the arctic. the dimensions of that thing like 40 ft
You would think they would camouflage the tent on the outside lol.everyone is wearing overwhites trying to be stealthy then they tell you to set up a big green behemoth while having most the guy's sleep inside without their weapons.I wonder if anyone is ever going to buy individual bivys that are low to the ground and stealth for soldiers by the year 2030.
If this is an Arctic tent why is it Green and not White?? This appears to be a bit dum! Also leaving your weapon to freeze up outside seems a bit dumb.
If you were to take the Basic Winter Warfare course (now Cold Weather Operator), you would find out why the Tents are Green, and the Weapons are kept outside. But in Summary: - The Arctic Tents are Green, as they are much easier to hide in a forest or areas without snow covering. We have tested this with personal cameo coverings by putting a person in their all-white covers. When they are in a tree-line, they stick out like a sore thumb, as it make too obvious of an outline. If in a complete White-Out area (High Arctic), then it is just as easy to throw an old parachute overtop of the tent to make it white, or you would likely be building a snow wall to block the wind. Also, if the Tents were White, it wouldn’t be long until they were Black instead. Every little speck of dirt shows on White, and with the tent stove & lantern going and setting up/tearing down, there is a lot of debris that would get stuck onto a white covering, and be impossible to remove. - As for the Weapons, they normally get between a small amount of humidity to a dumping of freezing rain put onto them just being outside. If the weapons were then taken inside of a warm area, that moisture would then melt. The next time the weapon was taken outside, that melted moisture would then re-freeze in the most inconvenient locations, and completely brick the weapon. It is impossible to remove this moisture, as we sometimes in a warm area as little as a minute, and we normally don’t have time to clean the moisture off. Therefore, the normal solution to this moisture problem is that if a weapon is cold, then it stays cold. The metal is the same temperature as the environment, so it doesn’t melt any snow and get inside of the weapon, and freeze the weapon shut. Mounted units have a particular problem achieving this, as we usually have the heaters going inside of vehicles which cause the same issue, without the ability to leave the weapons outside. - In the same vein with Weapons, they are also left outside for Safety. The tents are notoriously cramped when 5/10 troops are inside of them. There is barely enough room for personal with their sleeping bags and the stove, and it has always been a constant risk of the troop next to the stove being lit on fire. Live Ammo on Operations cause enough problems, and Blank Ammo on Exercise can still be deadly if mis-handled. Therefore, for everyone’s safety, the weapons are left with the majority of the kit on the drawlines just outside of the door.
@@A_Ryan weapons are kept outside so moisture does not build up inside your mechanism and freeze solid a basic artic cold weather drill to for us British training in Norway back in 1990 and we use the same 10man tent and also 4 man tents kept in pulk sleds and cross country skis hard work but good times
Bringing your weapon into a warm place and then watching it freeze outside is pretty dumb. Keeping it in frozen temperatures and using a tube of graphite as lubricant is the answer to all your frozen questions.
Many tactical mistakes, firstly, there was no camp outpost, secondly, the tent was not made of white material, it unmasks, it is easy to figure out the group from the tracks, they didn’t mix up the tracks, they moved too tightly, one shot from a grenade launcher could destroy the entire group, and people with glasses at minus 40 Celsius due to the exhaled air, will be with icy lenses and frostbite of the nose, and these are the main mistakes.
I can tell that you failed to read any other comment. White tents are only good in the Winter, and are difficult to change to any other colour. Also stands out in low-light conditions. Green tents can be used in all seasons, and blend relatively well in all conditions and light conditions (looks like a big bush at a distance). If in a white-out (actually really rare), then can put a white cover overtop to blend it in. Also siteing. The tents are not normally set up in the middle of a bald white field (both tactical & wind considerations). Best is in a tree line, or if not, then a bushy depression. Makes the tent blend in with the environment.
In 1982 we had 5 man tents just like this one, but smaller. We fastened the pole into the apex (before we left) with a piece of coat hanger. Sometimes we had the orange telescoping pole, but we still fastened the folding pole to the apex. One guy would just go inside and put the pole up. We had air mattresses which were set up to form "couches" during the day. We never kept the stove or lantern going at night, just used a chem light if needed. The stove and lantern keep the tent warm due to the liner.
Your answers to some of the more inane comments were well done.
Anyone who went on exercise and lived under canvas in a static location will remember the immersion heaters that the fire piquet had to light at 0400 hrs. I always let a little too much gasoline drip before lighting the heater to get a loud WHOOOMP! that sounded like a mortar firing. Strangely, after a couple of times I was never given the duty again.
The concussive blast from those were terrifying when you were a new guy LOL.
I was given extra duties for doing the same thing...shouldn't have done it so close to the SSM's tent.😂
Yea almost killing your homies would get you kicked off of that lmao
The Arctic tent is, well it’s foliage green. This makes it easier to find your way back even in a snow storm.
lol, did my basic in Cornwallis in 1988. Us recruits lived under bivvies and the NCO’s got a nice winter tent. Nothing like shaving with ice cold water. Fun times, fun times.
Almost identical kit to U.S Army Arctic Light Infantry circa 1980s-1990s (6th Inf. Division Alaska). No Coleman stove, rather a rectangular-prism shaped Yukon firebox stove burning mogas from an upside down jerry can elevated off the ground with a field expedient tripod. Also no white balaklavas, rather OD green ones. We also always wore Kevlar helmets on top of the belaklava, if in a tactical environment. Never went ANYWHERE without the k-pot on our heads: Train as you fight, as they say. No blow-up mattresses (poor Canadian Private who had to do that!) We used rolled up foam pads. Same exact basecamp procedures, tent set up/takedown and Ahkio sleds. We didn't have that big handle on our sleds. That would have been a nice feature. The guys in this video were REALLY good and fast at set up and takedown of that tent and packing up the Ahkio. Absolutely vital in combat and when it's friggin' -30 F.
The air mattress they had inflates almost full by itself, a couple of puffs then it's max'd out. Air mattress is FAR superior to foam in comfort and R Value. Smaller package too.
We would have kept our rifles with us...
@@johnstacy7902 Not us. I remember using the same procedure explained in this video: Weapons kept outside with maybe one rifle kept inside the tent for security. Sweating weapons in that environment are not conducive to operating properly.
My most favorite and memorable experiences in the CAF was based around artic warfare, so much fun being sweaty and cold at the same time and walking like a duck in snow shoes. And the best is when someone from the previous ex filled the lantern fuel jerry with clp and it's too dark to realize half the camp already just poured it into the lanterns and now only 1 lights for 50 men lol.
So in other words Fuck Winter Warfare.
what? even if you put diesel in the lantern you just have to empty it and burn the mantle clean for a fresh restart on gasoline.
I don't miss this shit!
Reserve SQ ? Lol
I remember when we got the new gortex boots, they were certainly comfy, but the rubber soles froze, and were impossible to walk on hard packed or ice, what fun that was.
10:47 TACTICAL SNOW ROLL 😎
Thank you, it brought back memories!
Sure brings back memories
Thank you for uploading this.
The white cammies are so clean and bright. Just give them a few weeks and that'll look a a lot different, especially if the stoves or lanterns are burning dirty. Also surprised to see plastic tent pegs. Never saw one in 12 years, always 10" spikes.
Swiss Army uses only Plastic Snow ankers from Swisspiranha you can even stretch them out in a oven low temperature
The plastic pegs work as well as the plastic c7 mag did
Ahhhhh! Freddie-Chef boil-in-bag I.M.P.s. The cabbage rolls were my favorite.
Cheese omelette 🤢
Had some of my best sleeps in those tents.
Thanks for sharing, wish my winter BMQ went as smoothly. LMAO
Don't we all lol. My plq was in one of these.
music is epic!
If you've been there, you'll never forget that smell lol
Rubber and musty canvas
🤮
My fav tent/ pink eye 👁
Excellent job! Semper Fi
Great video but every time I see something about my countries armed forces past or present i'm like "those guy's need some more money for their shit"
I got out in 2011, and every time I think "maybe I should re-enlist" I remember never being warm on winter Ex's....on 2nd thought, we'll leave it for the young-ins....
I noticed one soldier inflating his mattress by blowing into it. A big mistake in cold weather. Moisture in your breath can freeze inside the mattress rendering it useless. Do they not still have the carry sacks that doubled as an inflator?
We were instructed not to do that with the old air mattresses, that had the attached bag, due to moisture in your breath. Perhaps it's not an issue with the "self inflating" mattresses, that don't self inflate all that well in the winter.
@@RCD566 it's even more of an issue with "self inflating" mattresses. The foam inside that allows for self inflation freezes and it becomes difficult to even unroll the mattress. I believe they came with a carry sack that doubled as an inflation bag, as I have one that I picked up one on the surplus market.
@@dancancade7101 When I was in Germany, most of us got the US foam mattresses from the PX, cut the width down a bit and rolled them into our issued sleeping bag valise and stuffed the bag/bags in the middle. Oh the good old days😂🤣
thats one of those ideas that sounds nice on course but in reality there is no time to play around with a little bag. I was in 2 commando for 7 years and everyone i know always just blew up the blackbetty air matress or the newer therma rest with their mouth. we only ever got 3 or 4 hours sleep at best but usually less.
I don't miss this shit
Almost half of the comments are about the color of the tent and the location of the firearms. Apparently they didn’t read anyone else’s comments.
That looks like so much fun, I wonder what the temp is.
And we still use the same tents today. So either they are really good, or we don't think it's worth the money to get new ones.
Which do you think?
definitely really good tents lol
As a civilian I set up this tent o. My own cuz I have no friends
Harder to find like minded friends these days. Cool tent though, would love to have one 👍🇨🇦.
4:13 I don't like where that barrel is pointing... I get it's 95 but c'mon lol
Where are the CWAC ?
My fav is the tent/ pink eye 👁 haha!
Very cool, no pun intended lol.
did anyone learn anything from the old rubber b+++h air matress? one pin hole and you are done. liner, winter and summer
4:38 what is this and model?
4:33
7:45 what fuel they use?
Coleman 425 Liquid Fuel Stove: www.colemancanada.ca/stoves-grills/multi-burner-stoves/guide-series-liquid-fuel-stove/SAP_3000003649.html
Runs off of Naphtha (also known as Camping Fuel or White Gas)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naphtha
End Ex is all I wanna here in WW. Gross.
No woos stove??
No ground sheets or other insulation on the tent floor? Amateurs!
A sleeping pad is all you get princess
@@John-lc2lz 😅😂🤣
It sounded like the old Finnish worldwar 2 Jäger Arctic tent copy ,what is word for that ? Only difference was that wood stove was now gas and toilet is called here riuku like a trees bind with big log. But i think There was many eXperienced finnish veterans running military schools after the big war. So it is evitable to be that way. Name like Marttinen ,Alakulppi ,even Larry Thorn alias Lauri Törni and many moore.
canvas tent is the best we live in these
In not a soldier yet, but I'm dreadging cold warfare training
I HATE the cold lol
hahah, don't move around, until someone throws a leg cramp!
Why is the Artic Tent not white?
trees are not white
absurd, one man alone I could do this in 10 mins its a ice fishing tent style tent in 40 km gusts, on a open frozen lake, save time and energy, this is horrible timing. 5 people 30 mins each is nuts on a mountain or in the arctic. the dimensions of that thing like 40 ft
there are no trees in the Arctic
A green arctic tent in winter!!!
there is a cam cover when required, green is better when in the tree line.
do not tell me anything about fucking stove ! 😂😂
You would think they would camouflage the tent on the outside lol.everyone is wearing overwhites trying to be stealthy then they tell you to set up a big green behemoth while having most the guy's sleep inside without their weapons.I wonder if anyone is ever going to buy individual bivys that are low to the ground and stealth for soldiers by the year 2030.
Weapons are outside due to sweating and refreezing.
The tent is usually camouflaged by putting a white parachute over it.
White cam net is used to compensate but also these are not put up in the middle of a field. Its in a forest line usually by thick brush.
I've never kept my weapons inside - always outside with the sentry. The cam & concealment portion was likely eliminated to just focus on the basics.
Oh Canada 😂😂😂😂😂
If this is an Arctic tent why is it Green and not White?? This appears to be a bit dum! Also leaving your weapon to freeze up outside seems a bit dumb.
If you were to take the Basic Winter Warfare course (now Cold Weather Operator), you would find out why the Tents are Green, and the Weapons are kept outside. But in Summary:
- The Arctic Tents are Green, as they are much easier to hide in a forest or areas without snow covering. We have tested this with personal cameo coverings by putting a person in their all-white covers. When they are in a tree-line, they stick out like a sore thumb, as it make too obvious of an outline.
If in a complete White-Out area (High Arctic), then it is just as easy to throw an old parachute overtop of the tent to make it white, or you would likely be building a snow wall to block the wind. Also, if the Tents were White, it wouldn’t be long until they were Black instead. Every little speck of dirt shows on White, and with the tent stove & lantern going and setting up/tearing down, there is a lot of debris that would get stuck onto a white covering, and be impossible to remove.
- As for the Weapons, they normally get between a small amount of humidity to a dumping of freezing rain put onto them just being outside. If the weapons were then taken inside of a warm area, that moisture would then melt. The next time the weapon was taken outside, that melted moisture would then re-freeze in the most inconvenient locations, and completely brick the weapon. It is impossible to remove this moisture, as we sometimes in a warm area as little as a minute, and we normally don’t have time to clean the moisture off.
Therefore, the normal solution to this moisture problem is that if a weapon is cold, then it stays cold. The metal is the same temperature as the environment, so it doesn’t melt any snow and get inside of the weapon, and freeze the weapon shut. Mounted units have a particular problem achieving this, as we usually have the heaters going inside of vehicles which cause the same issue, without the ability to leave the weapons outside.
- In the same vein with Weapons, they are also left outside for Safety. The tents are notoriously cramped when 5/10 troops are inside of them. There is barely enough room for personal with their sleeping bags and the stove, and it has always been a constant risk of the troop next to the stove being lit on fire. Live Ammo on Operations cause enough problems, and Blank Ammo on Exercise can still be deadly if mis-handled. Therefore, for everyone’s safety, the weapons are left with the majority of the kit on the drawlines just outside of the door.
@@A_Ryan weapons are kept outside so moisture does not build up inside your mechanism and freeze solid a basic artic cold weather drill to for us British training in Norway back in 1990 and we use the same 10man tent and also 4 man tents kept in pulk sleds and cross country skis hard work but good times
As a young man I trapped with my family. Rifles were always left outside. We had scopes and they would have been useless if kept inside.
Bringing your weapon into a warm place and then watching it freeze outside is pretty dumb. Keeping it in frozen temperatures and using a tube of graphite as lubricant is the answer to all your frozen questions.
Not as much as this comment
Many tactical mistakes, firstly, there was no camp outpost, secondly, the tent was not made of white material, it unmasks, it is easy to figure out the group from the tracks, they didn’t mix up the tracks, they moved too tightly, one shot from a grenade launcher could destroy the entire group, and people with glasses at minus 40 Celsius due to the exhaled air, will be with icy lenses and frostbite of the nose, and these are the main mistakes.
yikes..brought bak horrible experiencs in the 70's
You had ond job… buy an arctic tent. Buy an WHITE arctic tent!
I can tell that you failed to read any other comment.
White tents are only good in the Winter, and are difficult to change to any other colour. Also stands out in low-light conditions.
Green tents can be used in all seasons, and blend relatively well in all conditions and light conditions (looks like a big bush at a distance). If in a white-out (actually really rare), then can put a white cover overtop to blend it in.
Also siteing. The tents are not normally set up in the middle of a bald white field (both tactical & wind considerations). Best is in a tree line, or if not, then a bushy depression. Makes the tent blend in with the environment.