as we've said before, there's one thing this video proves, and it's that crashing on the track, where you're really pushing it, is far, far safer than crashing on the street.
I believe he meant if you're not willing to suffer the consequences, don't race. I can almost guarantee that every pro racing driver had a crash at one point or another. The only way to know where are the limits is to cross them.
From the get go you can tell his dude is full of shit. "We've worked with so many big companies, like AEM..." Brags to the host if he can handle his awesome, under 400whp Evo. Apparently he can't.
@@davidpineda645 LOL Have not met a single G35 that was anywhere near as fast as even a tuned stock turbo Evo. Even a tuned FBO G35 was not faster than my tuned not-FBO 365whp Evo X. Like, not even close bud..and in the corners the G35 guys did not have the line, I drove right by them on the inside because I could still push it while they were all maintaining what grip they had. In the straights its gapplebees for dinner every time. Would have to be boosted to keep up with an Evo. The Evo in this vid was built by RRE with an FP Red turbo in it and supporting mods...500+ whp. You're day dreaming boy. My buddy has a AP1 S2000 with intake and exhaust and thats it... he pulls ahead of a bolt on G35 by top of 2nd gear and keeps a car on em above 80. I leave him for dead from any gear when I'm only on my 91 tune (336whp).
Intake and software got me 30hp. Then I noticed fully wrapped in fake cf then went haha no way this guy knows what hes doing. Then clowned matt on "can you handle this car" guys a clown. Lost control 3 times that day wow.
"have you ever driven something like this?" an evo with an intake and tune? seriously? no disrespect to mitsubishi or anyone, but matt farah knows how to drive your sub-400 hp evo
Been married 38 years now if at ANY TIME my wife would have said no you're not getting this car or that car,it would have been the day i pack my bags and go. I hate when i hear a man say "my wife let me get it" unless your wife is the bread winner i hate hearing that phrase.
+MidwestTuner yea me too, I'd say listen little lady don't you worry about my transportation since I pay for the house, all three cars, all of our food etc....
Im sorry but why the fuck would you take off the rear wing if its for circuit racing, if its anything they should put a larger one due to the power increase. This is what happens when you leave a Japanese beast into the hands of a yank, tunes it like its made for a drag race.
First signs of caution. The Porsche is a 996 GT3 Cup car which does not seem unsettled at all in any turn or at any speed at any time in front of you. Your car has a history of losing grip and sliding out of control when ever you have tried to match speed or pass the Porsche. Physics tried to warn him. All wheel drive can be misleading. In normal driving it can make almost any driver feel invincible, but like all things, there are limitations.
Poor guy was trying to be a hero on the smoking tire and ended up going off the track. That GT3 was not stock either - there's no comparrison between the cars...
6:30 where are the other angles? You show all these camera angles all the rest of the video but when he flies off road the only video you have is inside the Evo?
That's racing for you. It's just like gambling. Don't push harder than you're comfortable with because the harder you push, the harder the track might push back.
Me too. However I dont think approval is needed it is wise when you're sharing your bills and money to come to agreements on things. If you're using all your own money and everything is in the budget you dont have to ask shit. If however you're using half your wives money too on luxury purchases for yourself you might wanna come to an agreement.
Or just marry the right one and let her help you buy a race car. A plus is also when she is out racing with you or supporting whatever you do. If she doesn't support you or share the same interest, that's not wifey material.
Victor Pitts glad my wife lets me do this...she's not into it but likes cars, just not motorsports....let me quote what she says about my track days...."i dont want to go with you to see you drive around in circles all day" HAHA
a hemi is what Chrysler calls their V8's. Originally, it was because back in the 60's and 70's, they had hemispherical cylinder heads, but now it's just a regular V8 with a cool name. A rotary is a non-traditional engine design that is only used by Mazda for current production cars (RX-7, RX-8), and it's known for being a very free-revving engine with a high redline and zero torque.
He was focused more on passing the car than realizing his limits, this happens a lot. Sometimes you just gotta drive and pay attention to what you are doing. The car is badass, I think it would give the Porsche a good run.
Agreed, Ego and Pride is VERY dangerous in the world of racing, you have to be calm and you have to think straight, it was an Amateur's mistake, but this guy talks and acts as if he is pro, he needs to calm down a bit.
Exactly what makes head to head racing so much more dangerous than time trialing or simply 'going fast'. Know your car, know your limits, never exceed them, and you'll be just fine.
DjRjSolarStar When emotions kick in it will become dangerous sport. Time attack is not about the position you are in, but once a guy passes a slower driver, In a instant the slower driver will feel the need in wanting to re-pass the overtaker or block the faster car behind etc. Not all drivers do this but majority of them do. This is what makes things dangerous.
+Tyler Dowd Shit, I just bought a regular lancer and told them before I signed the papers they were ordering me a spoiler. They had some on the lot the same color as mine with spoilers, but mine was the only 4WD.
I can understand if someone doesn't like a car, because that's an opinion. But to call an Eco a shitty car is ignorance. It's an all around car. It does a lot of things 7.5-8/10, but nothing excellent. It's a great car, it shouldn't have to perform like a fucking Ferrari for it to be considered a great car jeez.
Yeah IDK why they tried that haha. two VERY different cars. the Evo is great for its price, German engineering is more expensive for a reason though. Its incredible.
***** German vehicles are more likely to have electronic problems because they have a lot more in a vehicle than most vehicles does and I would like to see any car manufacture have half the shit that a German vehicle have and not have a electronic problem. The 2000 E-320 Mercedes that I use to own has more in the vehicle than the new vehicles have today.
the lack of the spoiler caused this...hmmm lets think that over a second, tell me how the stock spoiler would have kept him from going off track....he just took turns and passes too fast like we all do in video games so stfu bout that spoiler non sense unless it was a joke.
Slyfoxboy think that over for a few more seconds and realize that automakers add spoilers to increase downforce and reduce lift. the shape of a rear windscreen naturally creates lift at high speed like an aeroplane's wing, which is why most fast cars have some sort of wing or lip on the bootlid. if you remove that then the faster you go the less grip your rear wheels have, because the whole back end is getting lifted by air pressure differentials.
"If you're not prepared to race, you shouldn't be racing" someone is butt hurt they didn't get to drive! But seriously, open track days are not for racing and competition with other drivers! Stay within your limits otherwise things like this happen.
J3ui not if hes spinning out you have to turn in the opposite direction.. look at the tire grooves that he was making he was correcting where the car was turning if he didn't make the necessary corrections he could have spun out of control even more than he already did
Nathan Lam not true kid. when you go off the track, keep the wheel straight and put both feet down. You will not spin out of control. Making corrections like he did only make the situations worse. Love how people on the internet talk like they're experts on a subject they have zero experience on.
Lol. Who wouldn't be? Do you know how much time and effort it takes for these videos. I would be pissed too. Not to mention that dude had no place in trying to beat that 911.
I know the difference between racing and lapping, obviously. I wasn't prepared for the crash, and just started talking about stuff on the fly, it's not like I write scripts and do takes, unless I really flub it. But this was the end of a long weekend of lapping, where the run group had just taken it upon themselves to race each other. Of course he will be allowed back at the track. None of the offs were even black-flag worthy, and the crash happened in a passing zone, it was just an accident
the point where the accident occurred was a clear passing zone, it was simply an accident. NASA doesn't require instructors past the HPDE 1 level, and this was a 3.
yeah!, definetely pusing the car way too hard if his of track 3 times same day and his lucky the motor didnt let go if his keeping those rpms that high...epecially on a stock bottom..
the difference in terms between a spoiler and a wing, is a wing is a surface mounted to the car, in an effort to generate downforce at speed. A Spoiler is a surface mounted to the car, to shape the air better as it leaves either the underneath of the frontend, or the back of the decklid, to avoid turbulence, and achieve better gas mileage, and possibly better top speed.
he didn't really go off 3 times, I counted the first one as 2 offs, as he hit the dirt on both sides of the track..... and yes, this video certainly proves how much safer driving is at the track than on the street. If he went off the road at 90 on the street, it would have been major problems.
It's funny how people on this thread that actually race are sympathetic and understanding. While people that have no experience and just talk a big game are talking shit about the car being shit or the driver. This kind of thing happens to everybody. He is actually out there racing on the limit sharpening his skills and that is awesome.
I ridden shotgun in a friend's car at the Streets of Willow. It's very fun and adrenaline rushing. Crashes happen all the time there and the knew what he was doing. Make sure it's not your daily driver car. You need to be on course to understand why he crashed. That section is narrow and it looks to have the BMW driver's fault. Hopefully he got his Evo back out there racing.
TheTyisAwesome There is a bit more than that going on here. The Cup is lighter, has more power and more tire. The down force created by a functional wing may give him traction but it would also slow down his acceleration and lower the top speed. It wouldn't surprise me if it helped him stick but took away the ability to keep speed or pass the cup car any way. They are just very different machines.
Would a new front splitter at front and a spoiler on rear solve the problem of going off all time? I know the car is on the limit when he has these offs but surely some rear downforce wouldn't hinder but improve high speed cornering. It works for the Porsche Cup Car.
The driver was actually pretty good, he was just pushing the car over its limits. That Porsche probably put down about 250kg of down force so when the 10kg of down force Evo tried to chase it around the high speed corner it just couldn't hold the G's and slid off the track, high speed corners require down force which is something this car didn't posses.
It's about how communicative the car is - steering, suspension, everything. What's so hard to understand about it? EVO X is goes into snappy oversteer just too easily. When it happens on an open Top Gear airfield, it's fun, but when it happens at high speeds on a track or even worse - on a road, it might mean trouble.
That's what happens when you try to chase a car you have no chance of catching a 10 year old GT3 Porsche. He will learn the hard way by trashing his car.
Russ: Dude, i almost had you! Porsche guy: You almost had me? You never had me, you never had your car... Lol but on a serious note, props to Russ on an awesome car. Crashing is part of racing and its the only way you learn.. invest in a set of semi's, turn down the boost a little (like that's going to happen) and just more seat time in general. sorted
+lifehackertips Cup cars are race cars. I worked on Jim Lowe's #64 cup car back in 2007. It was a purpose built race car. Not at all like your standard GT3 or even GT3 RS, which are street legal track cars ( more like GS class racers). A "Tuned" weekend road racer is just not going to be able reach the same limits as a factory race car. Certainly not in any daily driver form. I'm sure that all wheel drive feels confidence inspiring in that EVO at lower limits. He should have learned his lesson the first time. Obviously his car was getting loose where the Porsche wasn't unsettled at all.
+1400IntruderVS "cup cars" are still cars from Porsche factory. They're not tuned by performance shops, it came from the factory like that. Unless you want to say ALL Porsches are race cars, in which case I would not disagree with you. The Evo X was race tuned, says right in the description, and he goes through a long list of "race prep work" done to it at 1:10
lifehackertips Different class. His Evo may be closer to a GS where as the Cup car is GT Cup class. It is big difference. I just think he was silly trying to bite off more than he can chew. He said that EVO was also the car he drives to work. A GT car like the Porsche cup car has lexan windows in the rear, carbon fiber doors (not just the skins) and body panels with no windows or fixed vented lexan windows (depending on how they want it). A fuel cell, roll cage... I am going to stop myself. I understand what you are saying. I am just saying they two totally different animals. He may have a better chance at passing a regular GT3, but I doubt it. At the end of the day the EVO is still just a Mitsubishi with trick parts thrown at it. Porsche are Porsche.
Amazing car and got to give it to him, pretty audacious to keep up with a cup car. Great job on the tune and hope to see him best the Porsche after he regroups.
MATT, pretty much this confirmes what MOTORTREND(or basically the PRO driver they hired) said about this car in their 2008 America's best handling car comparison. And that would be this: "while the MR feels stable and composed up to nine tenths, when you step over the limit it lets go fast. Higher-finishing cars deliver more warning before they break loose"
Why wasn't it far, the Evo should have smoked the Porsche. The Evo 298 Kilowatts, the Porsche 260 od kilowatts. Porsche naturally aspirated engine 3.6 liter, also its a 10 old car. That's a current Evo turbo charged 4. So it should have smoked the Porsche. I own a Porsche 1976 turbo with a 3.4 Ruf spec engine. A stock GTR has no chance. Its the same spec engine that's in the Ruf yellow bird. What I am saying is people don't realize just how fast Porsche's are. That's what I call super impressive
From what I gather by the cockpit cam and the skid marks is that the Evo was trying to pass on the inside of the BMW right when the BMW guy was preparing for the corner. The BMW started to turn in and the Mr Evo flies by and cuts him off. On a track day (not race day), I would say that the Evo was definitely in the wrong.
and what is so special with german cars??? if driver is dumbass there is no difference whether car is german crap or mad in Japan or even China. so if u are fan boy of german rubbish expensive cars- OK. but as i see here the broblem was the driver !!
John Nicodemus Well, I advise you to try and drive German car for a couple thousand of miles(Hint: pick something more expensive than Audi A3) instead of having sexual intercourse with them.
It takes a lot of self control and practice to drive an EVO fast. Its AWD does help you corner fast until it reaches its limit. EVO's AWD is very advanced in that it sends power to the wheel that needs the power. Audi's new S4 has this feature too. The tricky part is that one has to press down the gas pedal to make it work. As one drives faster and faster, the laws of physics eventually kick in. Glad the driver is okay though.
+Vanisshen I believe they make you drive with the windows open so that it's easier to pull the driver out if (or in this case 'when') they end up upside-down.
Depends on how much emphasis you put in comfort/refinement. The M3 is capable, refined and very comfortable. The Evo is extremely capable, but supposedly not very refined. M3s can get expensive in maintenance and repairs, though I think the Evo isn't cheap to maintain either. Both cars are insanely fun, but very different in character. M3s, by far, would make a better DD, but Evos are VERY fun.
"Hey Matt you gotta drive my car! Come to the track and you can take it for a spin." "Just let me pass this Porsche real quick then you can drive it..."
Nickhead87 I used to have a friend like that, we put up with it because he was the only one with a Sega at the time lol. I hope that is what Matt did, TBH that was rude to call him and his camera guy out there just so Matt could watch that guy drive his own car.
The car is too bulky, top heavy. Could benefit from better tires and suspension adjustments. Fine, likely a better driver. The phony carbon wrap is worthless.
+Zander Nicholas Are you sure it's carbon wrap? The company he advertises sells actual carbon hoods and roofs for this vehicle, so it would be kinda doubly stupid. It did look like foil to me, and i was like "duuude, Y U SPOIL CAR?". As to chip protection, you can just get clear wrap or a body coloured one that at least doesn't pretend to shave weight, because that is just so tacky because dishonest.
Mr. Farrah, This is what`s it`s all about! Great camera work, good sound, an entertaining host without going overboard. This show is a benchmark in my view. Keep it up! Ever going to do that dragracing show we talked about e few weeks back?
I blame the organization who is running the track day. He had 3 substantial offs throughout the weekend/day. After 1 - 2 substantial offs he should be done for the event. To top it off....... he made contact with another car!!! Smh this is not w2w
That is what I was thinking. Ive never seen an event let someone back onto track after a decent off. I noticed from the footage of the first crash, he should have been able to save that at least 2 times and still was unable to gather up the car. Novice driver + a lenient org = 2 cars off
a 30k stock evo vs a 100k porsche? lol. With all the price and performance disadvantage the evo has here, it would have been atleast believable to have the FQ400 over here
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Russ is that childhood friend who invites you over to his house and watch him play video games.
+jlakindd And when it's your turn to play he goes "this is boring, let's go outside" and turns the tv off and hides the remote and runs out.
+jlakindd And you're particularly mad about it cuz you know you could probably do better haha.
+Jason Huynh Matt would have passed that Porsche and Russ would have cried. . .
+jlakindd LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol fucking guy
as we've said before, there's one thing this video proves, and it's that crashing on the track, where you're really pushing it, is far, far safer than crashing on the street.
This should be renamed "What happened when a shit driver chased a Porsche!"
"let it be a lesson, if you're not prepared to race, shouldn't race" lol pretty much just said the guy cant handle his car, ouch
+Devin Orvis He went off the track 3 times :/
I believe he meant if you're not willing to suffer the consequences, don't race. I can almost guarantee that every pro racing driver had a crash at one point or another. The only way to know where are the limits is to cross them.
If you go off the track once.. you might want to take it back a notch.. not try to beat a pro racer in a 996. Just saying :)
i'd still try and beat the 996 and its pro driver. for honor and glory
But when you go off 3 times it's just shame and embarrassment.
He drives 900 + cars and the other guy ask him if he can handle something like that lol
Has he drove the 900 hp cars to the limit tho?
+Dante Velez Then proceeds to crash it himself lol
I know right? Obviously he hasn't seen the 1,000hp r32 he drove
+Automotive Enthusiast r34 :)
+Automotive Enthusiast except he drove the skyline literally 5 years after this came out
Damnit Russ...
First, you pretentiously insult Farah, doubting his driving abilities.
Second, you spin off the course 3 times.
Third, you hit an E36.
i think that was scripted because every video the person asks him that. its tongue in cheek. im sure you are way better than everyone tho
From the get go you can tell his dude is full of shit.
"We've worked with so many big companies, like AEM..."
Brags to the host if he can handle his awesome, under 400whp Evo. Apparently he can't.
+Enrique Ferrer "worked with" *add to cart*
+Zonda hahahhahahahaa
This is pretty sad. That beautiful Evo is stuck with a terrible owner/driver.
You are having a laugh. The evo is a disgusting car
Henry Eastick true car enthusiasts love all cars
brett hansen No, true car enthusiasts can hate certain makes and models, but they respect them and their owners.
Henry Eastick One man's trash. Evo is the best thing being produced by Mitsubishi Motors and its a whole lot of fun to drive.
This is pretty sad. That beautiful wife is stuck with a terrible owner/driver.
Three offs in a day? Someone shouldn't be driving an Evo
Tbh my infiniti g35 is faster than that bishi
@@davidpineda645 LOL Have not met a single G35 that was anywhere near as fast as even a tuned stock turbo Evo. Even a tuned FBO G35 was not faster than my tuned not-FBO 365whp Evo X. Like, not even close bud..and in the corners the G35 guys did not have the line, I drove right by them on the inside because I could still push it while they were all maintaining what grip they had. In the straights its gapplebees for dinner every time. Would have to be boosted to keep up with an Evo.
The Evo in this vid was built by RRE with an FP Red turbo in it and supporting mods...500+ whp. You're day dreaming boy.
My buddy has a AP1 S2000 with intake and exhaust and thats it... he pulls ahead of a bolt on G35 by top of 2nd gear and keeps a car on em above 80. I leave him for dead from any gear when I'm only on my 91 tune (336whp).
@@roguetune03 well said, anyone who thinks a G35 can hang with a +350whp Evo X are bent.
Intake and software got me 30hp. Then I noticed fully wrapped in fake cf then went haha no way this guy knows what hes doing. Then clowned matt on "can you handle this car" guys a clown. Lost control 3 times that day wow.
That's not all. Look how his wheels' camber don't even match the HP rating or the track requirements.
Thats why I commented, dudes a clown.
Damn that was a waste of video for the guys lol
Yeah that guy was a complete moron. I'm sure the people he paid to tune the car for him did a good job but this guy was a doofus.
"have you ever driven something like this?" an evo with an intake and tune? seriously? no disrespect to mitsubishi or anyone, but matt farah knows how to drive your sub-400 hp evo
Fully built with fp turbo is more like 500whp+. He says a good enough amount of info about it in his interview with matt. RRE are no slouch.
*Reads title
*Notices the fat guy removed the spoiler on his car
*Notices that he's trying to chase a fully equipped Porche
This gon' be GOOD!
hondac55 GET 'ER DONE RIGHT, GET 'ER DONE
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Porsche*
*And notice that this guy only takes his Evo to McDonald's drive through
He didn't remove, he needed to add one. Not all of the evos come with a spoiler... For whatever reason.
+David Wang the MRs didn't come with a spoiler they had the auto Trans as well
Dont hate.. this guys out actually racing his car.. not online talking about it.
His wife was right lol
+zalien6 haha ya his wife was probably pissed
Been married 38 years now if at ANY TIME my wife would have said no you're not getting this car or that car,it would have been the day i pack my bags and go. I hate when i hear a man say "my wife let me get it" unless your wife is the bread winner i hate hearing that phrase.
Yea if my wife tried to say something about my car I'd say bitch get back in the kitchen and make me a sandwich
+Watching TH-cam No you wouldn't.
I'm with you. I recently got a '15 Evo X and my wife had no say in it as I make the house payment and am responsible with all my payments.
+MidwestTuner yea me too, I'd say listen little lady don't you worry about my transportation since I pay for the house, all three cars, all of our food etc....
fucking 100
Never trust an EVO owner without a rear spoiler !
Im sorry but why the fuck would you take off the rear wing if its for circuit racing, if its anything they should put a larger one due to the power increase. This is what happens when you leave a Japanese beast into the hands of a yank, tunes it like its made for a drag race.
If we were talking F1, then this spoiler debate would be a different story. For a sedan car.. not really much of an issue.
Yea the roof is where the real down force is
littlemimus Thats just absolutely wrong.
It's not a wing.
littlemimus that the most bullshit thing i have ever read
First signs of caution.
The Porsche is a 996 GT3 Cup car which does not seem unsettled at all in any turn or at any speed at any time in front of you.
Your car has a history of losing grip and sliding out of control when ever you have tried to match speed or pass the Porsche.
Physics tried to warn him.
All wheel drive can be misleading. In normal driving it can make almost any driver feel invincible, but like all things, there are limitations.
Porsche didn't even know he was there.
+Rick Hustwit hahaha, I said the same thing
+Rick Hustwit
the porshe guy was out for a casual sunday drive around willow,
did the "racer" in the evo think the porshe was actually trying????
Well if the Porsche was keeping up with the Evo he must have been trying, it was only a 996.
only??? LOL
+Ken Moto 996 turbo or c4s would easily lose the Evo lol....
I can't help but laugh at this guys ignorance 😂
I think it would be a good race between this car and a stock GTR.
Poor guy was trying to be a hero on the smoking tire and ended up going off the track. That GT3 was not stock either - there's no comparrison between the cars...
respectfully disagree there. You don't keep the tail of a track toy Porsche if the differences are so vast that it's incomparable.
6:30 where are the other angles? You show all these camera angles all the rest of the video but when he flies off road the only video you have is inside the Evo?
we can make a bonus video where I actually drive it :)
That's racing for you. It's just like gambling. Don't push harder than you're comfortable with because the harder you push, the harder the track might push back.
"Have you ever driven anything like this before?"
Owns an Aston Martin Vanquish.
I feel sorry for guys that have to get their wife approval on buying a car or anything.
Me too. However I dont think approval is needed it is wise when you're sharing your bills and money to come to agreements on things. If you're using all your own money and everything is in the budget you dont have to ask shit. If however you're using half your wives money too on luxury purchases for yourself you might wanna come to an agreement.
Or just marry the right one and let her help you buy a race car. A plus is also when she is out racing with you or supporting whatever you do. If she doesn't support you or share the same interest, that's not wifey material.
Victor Pitts glad my wife lets me do this...she's not into it but likes cars, just not motorsports....let me quote what she says about my track days...."i dont want to go with you to see you drive around in circles all day" HAHA
Victor Pitts haha Good point Victor
Ya gotta find the right woman for sure! I have my 06 STi race car (self proclaimed) in the garage and I daily drive a new fiesta ST! lol :D
that's a great phrase... "car enthusiast field trips" I really like that....
Lots of armchair race experts commenting here.
ive noticed on car videos, that people commenting are particularly douchey and straight up experts who are better than any driver on any video.
a hemi is what Chrysler calls their V8's. Originally, it was because back in the 60's and 70's, they had hemispherical cylinder heads, but now it's just a regular V8 with a cool name. A rotary is a non-traditional engine design that is only used by Mazda for current production cars (RX-7, RX-8), and it's known for being a very free-revving engine with a high redline and zero torque.
He was focused more on passing the car than realizing his limits, this happens a lot. Sometimes you just gotta drive and pay attention to what you are doing. The car is badass, I think it would give the Porsche a good run.
Agreed, Ego and Pride is VERY dangerous in the world of racing, you have to be calm and you have to think straight, it was an Amateur's mistake, but this guy talks and acts as if he is pro, he needs to calm down a bit.
Exactly what makes head to head racing so much more dangerous than time trialing or simply 'going fast'. Know your car, know your limits, never exceed them, and you'll be just fine.
DjRjSolarStar When emotions kick in it will become dangerous sport. Time attack is not about the position you are in, but once a guy passes a slower driver, In a instant the slower driver will feel the need in wanting to re-pass the overtaker or block the faster car behind etc. Not all drivers do this but majority of them do. This is what makes things dangerous.
Hase スタイル They are too worried about being competitive, not worried enough to know their limitations.
Looks like his wife is gonna have a word with him about responsibility. What a clown.
Yo dont chase a 911.. Or u'll see 911 behind you.
how is it confusing if you ask if the car is automatic, and I say that no, the car is an Evo GSR, which ONLY comes with a 5-speed manual.
wingless evos are so hideous looking
+Tyler Dowd Looks cancerous
Should at least have a trunk spoiler...
+Tyler Dowd Shit, I just bought a regular lancer and told them before I signed the papers they were ordering me a spoiler. They had some on the lot the same color as mine with spoilers, but mine was the only 4WD.
+Tyler Dowd lol ikr, they're mutant
+Tyler Dowd I actually like the look without it.. But obviously it looks waaayyy better with one. I currently rock a wingless lol.
I can understand if someone doesn't like a car, because that's an opinion. But to call an Eco a shitty car is ignorance. It's an all around car. It does a lot of things 7.5-8/10, but nothing excellent. It's a great car, it shouldn't have to perform like a fucking Ferrari for it to be considered a great car jeez.
Eco?
evo, sorry lol
The Evo was Struggling to keep up while the Porsche was not pushing hard at all...
Yeah IDK why they tried that haha. two VERY different cars. the Evo is great for its price, German engineering is more expensive for a reason though. Its incredible.
***** German vehicles are more likely to have electronic problems because they have a lot more in a vehicle than most vehicles does and I would like to see any car manufacture have half the shit that a German vehicle have and not have a electronic problem. The 2000 E-320 Mercedes that I use to own has more in the vehicle than the new vehicles have today.
"My wife let me buy it."
wow, so sad
Three offs in a day? That is the result of poor driving.
I think he was trying really hard for the camera crew.
He took the spoiler off the Evo though, didn't help the aero
Whats with the jet black "Just For Men" goatee though, the shaved head didn't mask the salt & pepper that didn't match..
The Smoking Tire is what the American top gear should have been. You guys do a great job.
what happens when you take the spoiler off an evo and drive a high speed track
Damn freal
the lack of the spoiler caused this...hmmm lets think that over a second, tell me how the stock spoiler would have kept him from going off track....he just took turns and passes too fast like we all do in video games so stfu bout that spoiler non sense unless it was a joke.
Slyfoxboy think that over for a few more seconds and realize that automakers add spoilers to increase downforce and reduce lift. the shape of a rear windscreen naturally creates lift at high speed like an aeroplane's wing, which is why most fast cars have some sort of wing or lip on the bootlid. if you remove that then the faster you go the less grip your rear wheels have, because the whole back end is getting lifted by air pressure differentials.
that spoiler doesn't make much down force. let's be real, it's shit driving that caused the offs
the cancellation of lift is its main function
You heard the man "if you are not prepared to race, shouldn't be racing"..lol.
"If you're not prepared to race, you shouldn't be racing" someone is butt hurt they didn't get to drive!
But seriously, open track days are not for racing and competition with other drivers! Stay within your limits otherwise things like this happen.
and if you go off the track, keep the gawt damn steering wheel straight!!!
J3ui not if hes spinning out you have to turn in the opposite direction.. look at the tire grooves that he was making he was correcting where the car was turning if he didn't make the necessary corrections he could have spun out of control even more than he already did
Nathan Lam not true kid. when you go off the track, keep the wheel straight and put both feet down. You will not spin out of control. Making corrections like he did only make the situations worse. Love how people on the internet talk like they're experts on a subject they have zero experience on.
J3ui I liked how he even said it after all though. The guy in the Evo looked like a real joke anyway.
Lol. Who wouldn't be? Do you know how much time and effort it takes for these videos. I would be pissed too. Not to mention that dude had no place in trying to beat that 911.
I know the difference between racing and lapping, obviously. I wasn't prepared for the crash, and just started talking about stuff on the fly, it's not like I write scripts and do takes, unless I really flub it. But this was the end of a long weekend of lapping, where the run group had just taken it upon themselves to race each other.
Of course he will be allowed back at the track. None of the offs were even black-flag worthy, and the crash happened in a passing zone, it was just an accident
Never bring a car to the track that you aren't prepared to leave at the track.
the point where the accident occurred was a clear passing zone, it was simply an accident. NASA doesn't require instructors past the HPDE 1 level, and this was a 3.
yeah!, definetely pusing the car way too hard if his of track 3 times same day and his lucky the motor didnt let go if his keeping those rpms that high...epecially on a stock bottom..
the porsche was on slicks too, and the Evo on treaded tires.
why would you get an Evo if you can't even drive Nissan Leaf ??
damn, Matt has put on a few pounds since 2010.
No he lost hella weight
don't chase a 911 or it'll be 911 for you
which one? The worst drag launches compilation? We will do it if we run out of other ideas and need a backup.
His wife is gonna be pissed.. lol
"With my BlackBerry" what a time to be alive
Looks like Road Racing Engineering really found a winner to advertise their product
the difference in terms between a spoiler and a wing, is a wing is a surface mounted to the car, in an effort to generate downforce at speed.
A Spoiler is a surface mounted to the car, to shape the air better as it leaves either the underneath of the frontend, or the back of the decklid, to avoid turbulence, and achieve better gas mileage, and possibly better top speed.
this guy was a disaster waiting to happen, i saw that right from the beginning.
he didn't really go off 3 times, I counted the first one as 2 offs, as he hit the dirt on both sides of the track..... and yes, this video certainly proves how much safer driving is at the track than on the street. If he went off the road at 90 on the street, it would have been major problems.
No substitute for skills on the track.
It's funny how people on this thread that actually race are sympathetic and understanding. While people that have no experience and just talk a big game are talking shit about the car being shit or the driver.
This kind of thing happens to everybody. He is actually out there racing on the limit sharpening his skills and that is awesome.
Matt should try Nessa if anyone gets the reference.
Thatll be good
No rear wing = no control in the corners. Aerodynamics 101. If you dont control the air around your car, the air will control your car.
Nice car and all... But you ran off the track 3 times in one day... Clearly you aren't a racing driver. Don't drive like it.
I ridden shotgun in a friend's car at the Streets of Willow. It's very fun and adrenaline rushing. Crashes happen all the time there and the knew what he was doing. Make sure it's not your daily driver car. You need to be on course to understand why he crashed. That section is narrow and it looks to have the BMW driver's fault. Hopefully he got his Evo back out there racing.
more like what happens when bad driver tries to take on better drivers.
the rear wheel was cracked and wouldnt hold air, otherwise I would have been able to drive it, even after the crash.
couldnt keep up with the gt3 because the EVO IS MISSING THE SPOILER
+Ko-wing wong He tried to pass a purpose built race car with a weekend track car/daily driver.
That is what happened.
+1400IntruderVS no it's because the bloody knob took the spoiler oft
+TheTyisAwesome *off
TheTyisAwesome There is a bit more than that going on here.
The Cup is lighter, has more power and more tire.
The down force created by a functional wing may give him traction but it would also slow down his acceleration and lower the top speed. It wouldn't surprise me if it helped him stick but took away the ability to keep speed or pass the cup car any way.
They are just very different machines.
Lol i was just kidding i think the other guy is too because it just looks silly with out the spoiler
Would a new front splitter at front and a spoiler on rear solve the problem of going off all time? I know the car is on the limit when he has these offs but surely some rear downforce wouldn't hinder but improve high speed cornering. It works for the Porsche Cup Car.
Oh damn, his wife ain't gonna be happy.
It's a wrap, so he cares about touching it as much as I do....
The fuck was this? The dude went off the track 3 times...if you wanted to catch the Porsche you should have let a legitimate pro drive
Everyone rips on the man, at least he sent it.
I was under the impression the other car running along side swiped him in the BMW.
Certainly looked that way, given the way the car shunted sideways before he went off.
The driver was actually pretty good, he was just pushing the car over its limits. That Porsche probably put down about 250kg of down force so when the 10kg of down force Evo tried to chase it around the high speed corner it just couldn't hold the G's and slid off the track, high speed corners require down force which is something this car didn't posses.
Teens with fart-can equipped dodge neons argue about trunk wings...
It's about how communicative the car is - steering, suspension, everything. What's so hard to understand about it? EVO X is goes into snappy oversteer just too easily. When it happens on an open Top Gear airfield, it's fun, but when it happens at high speeds on a track or even worse - on a road, it might mean trouble.
That's what happens when you try to chase a car you have no chance of catching a 10 year old GT3 Porsche. He will learn the hard way by trashing his car.
Russ: Dude, i almost had you!
Porsche guy: You almost had me? You never had me, you never had your car...
Lol but on a serious note, props to Russ on an awesome car. Crashing is part of racing and its the only way you learn.. invest in a set of semi's, turn down the boost a little (like that's going to happen) and just more seat time in general. sorted
wait, you mean to tell me a race tuned Mitsubishi is not as good as factory stock Porsche on a track??? What!?! Noo..... you don't say....
+lifehackertips He tried to pass a purpose built race car with a weekend track car/daily driver.
That is what happened.
+1400IntruderVS that's a factory stock 996 cup car, and he was racing in a "tuned by Road Race Engineering" Evo X.
+lifehackertips Cup cars are race cars.
I worked on Jim Lowe's #64 cup car back in 2007. It was a purpose built race car. Not at all like your standard GT3 or even GT3 RS, which are street legal track cars ( more like GS class racers).
A "Tuned" weekend road racer is just not going to be able reach the same limits as a factory race car. Certainly not in any daily driver form.
I'm sure that all wheel drive feels confidence inspiring in that EVO at lower limits. He should have learned his lesson the first time. Obviously his car was getting loose where the Porsche wasn't unsettled at all.
+1400IntruderVS "cup cars" are still cars from Porsche factory. They're not tuned by performance shops, it came from the factory like that. Unless you want to say ALL Porsches are race cars, in which case I would not disagree with you. The Evo X was race tuned, says right in the description, and he goes through a long list of "race prep work" done to it at 1:10
lifehackertips Different class.
His Evo may be closer to a GS where as the Cup car is GT Cup class. It is big difference.
I just think he was silly trying to bite off more than he can chew.
He said that EVO was also the car he drives to work.
A GT car like the Porsche cup car has lexan windows in the rear, carbon fiber doors (not just the skins) and body panels with no windows or fixed vented lexan windows (depending on how they want it). A fuel cell, roll cage...
I am going to stop myself.
I understand what you are saying. I am just saying they two totally different animals. He may have a better chance at passing a regular GT3, but I doubt it.
At the end of the day the EVO is still just a Mitsubishi with trick parts thrown at it.
Porsche are Porsche.
Amazing car and got to give it to him, pretty audacious to keep up with a cup car. Great job on the tune and hope to see him best the Porsche after he regroups.
"you ever drive anything like this" apparently he hasn't either
MATT, pretty much this confirmes what MOTORTREND(or basically the PRO driver they hired) said about this car in their 2008 America's best handling car comparison.
And that would be this:
"while the MR feels stable and composed up to nine tenths, when you step over the limit it lets go fast. Higher-finishing cars deliver more warning before they break loose"
The Evo is definitely a great bargain performance car. But vs. a 911 Cup car on a track? thats not even fair.
996 just saying not trying to be a correction nazi
Jake Warner 996 is the chassis code. 911 is the model.
oh well thank you for just informing me and not being an ass like most lol
lmao FUCK YOU YOU MOOSE TWIT! lol jk
Why wasn't it far, the Evo should have smoked the Porsche. The Evo 298 Kilowatts, the Porsche 260 od kilowatts. Porsche naturally aspirated engine 3.6 liter, also its a 10 old car. That's a current Evo turbo charged 4. So it should have smoked the Porsche. I own a Porsche 1976 turbo with a 3.4 Ruf spec engine. A stock GTR has no chance. Its the same spec engine that's in the Ruf yellow bird. What I am saying is people don't realize just how fast Porsche's are. That's what I call super impressive
From what I gather by the cockpit cam and the skid marks is that the Evo was trying to pass on the inside of the BMW right when the BMW guy was preparing for the corner. The BMW started to turn in and the Mr Evo flies by and cuts him off. On a track day (not race day), I would say that the Evo was definitely in the wrong.
That's what happens when you try to f with German cars. Just acknowledge that they are superior.
and what is so special with german cars??? if driver is dumbass there is no difference whether car is german crap or mad in Japan or even China. so if u are fan boy of german rubbish expensive cars- OK. but as i see here the broblem was the driver !!
Yeah, that's what losers always do. They make up fake reasons.
John Nicodemus
Well, I advise you to try and drive German car for a couple thousand of miles(Hint: pick something more expensive than Audi A3) instead of having sexual intercourse with them.
kcus kcidu
No, you.
You sound like an idiot. And I'm saying this as the owner of a German car.
It takes a lot of self control and practice to drive an EVO fast. Its AWD does help you corner fast until it reaches its limit. EVO's AWD is very advanced in that it sends power to the wheel that needs the power. Audi's new S4 has this feature too. The tricky part is that one has to press down the gas pedal to make it work. As one drives faster and faster, the laws of physics eventually kick in. Glad the driver is okay though.
Yea, "race" with windows fully open while bullshitting about weight reduction, what a smart combination.
they both weigh 300 pounds what weight reduction
+Vanisshen Pretty sure its a rule you have to have your window open.
+Vanisshen I believe they make you drive with the windows open so that it's easier to pull the driver out if (or in this case 'when') they end up upside-down.
Zero Ninety Thanks, I get it now.
Depends on how much emphasis you put in comfort/refinement. The M3 is capable, refined and very comfortable. The Evo is extremely capable, but supposedly not very refined. M3s can get expensive in maintenance and repairs, though I think the Evo isn't cheap to maintain either. Both cars are insanely fun, but very different in character. M3s, by far, would make a better DD, but Evos are VERY fun.
one does not simply beat the 911..
"Hey Matt you gotta drive my car! Come to the track and you can take it for a spin." "Just let me pass this Porsche real quick then you can drive it..."
Nickhead87
I used to have a friend like that, we put up with it because he was the only one with a Sega at the time lol.
I hope that is what Matt did, TBH that was rude to call him and his camera guy out there just so Matt could watch that guy drive his own car.
The car is too bulky, top heavy. Could benefit from better tires and suspension adjustments. Fine, likely a better driver.
The phony carbon wrap is worthless.
Zander Nicholas carbon wrap is protection from rock chips.
Zander Nicholas Yea, the 10 has been a disappointment from day one.
I know it's far from the same but in many ways I'm not a fan of my gf's Lancer GTS. Only fair thing so far is no "major" issues with the car.
+Zander Nicholas Are you sure it's carbon wrap? The company he advertises sells actual carbon hoods and roofs for this vehicle, so it would be kinda doubly stupid. It did look like foil to me, and i was like "duuude, Y U SPOIL CAR?".
As to chip protection, you can just get clear wrap or a body coloured one that at least doesn't pretend to shave weight, because that is just so tacky because dishonest.
Siana Gearz I'm sure
the wife is not going to be happy!
I can think of about 50,000 people who would disagree with you.
evo needs some aero bits for down force
For starters, it needs a tuned spoiler, and splitter to make it a bit stickier for the evo dragster does not turn well. Good luck. Good vid.
How embarrassing
Mr. Farrah, This is what`s it`s all about! Great camera work, good sound, an entertaining host without going overboard. This show is a benchmark in my view.
Keep it up!
Ever going to do that dragracing show we talked about e few weeks back?
I blame the organization who is running the track day. He had 3 substantial offs throughout the weekend/day. After 1 - 2 substantial offs he should be done for the event.
To top it off....... he made contact with another car!!! Smh this is not w2w
That is what I was thinking. Ive never seen an event let someone back onto track after a decent off. I noticed from the footage of the first crash, he should have been able to save that at least 2 times and still was unable to gather up the car. Novice driver + a lenient org = 2 cars off
*software and a pulley can take that engine over 400hp.
a 30k stock evo vs a 100k porsche? lol. With all the price and performance disadvantage the evo has here, it would have been atleast believable to have the FQ400 over here