Start a Straw Bale Garden (Complete How-to)
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- You can start a straw bale garden with a bale of straw and some fertilizer. Straw bale gardening offers a unique and innovative way to garden. Straw bales act as raised garden beds can be set up almost everywhere. They do require preparation before growing in them and gardener Scott shows all of the how-to steps for getting started with straw bale gardening. (Video #153)
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you are the Bob Ross of gardening. so relaxing listening to you.
So nice of you
My thoughts exactly!
I hear P. Allen Smith, Mr. Rodgers, and a bit of Rick Bayless.
I was just about to write the exact same comment when I saw what you wrote. Freaky 😳
talks kinda slow
Many years ago, in a previous garden, I tried growing Charantais melons in straw bales. I didn't have any direction, I didn't condition the bales, I just poked holes in the top of the bales, added a little soil and planted the plants. They grew and made the best tasting melons I've ever had. It worked great. Now that someone actually has developed a system for it I can understand the steps and why it's done, but those melons grew what can I say? :) Now that I have another new garden I'm thinking of giving this another try. I want to plant sweet potatoes and so I was thinking of making a square of bales with an opening in the middle filled with soil to grow the sweet potatoes and using the bales to grow other things. I also heard you can grow out the sides of the bales???? I saw others doing it, and I think that's a pretty cool idea too :) Thanks for the great tutorial!!!
I like using straw bales in my garden. I inoculate new bales with a handful of soil from my best performing raised bed. This ensures the bale gets the micro-organisms they need early.
Sadly, this is one of the most time consuming and cost ineffective gardening methods i know of. I always put my garden methods to a simple test: 1. Do I really need to do this to grow plants? 2. Do I really need to spend that money to grow plants? If the answer is no to either of these then I look elsewhere. With SBG you should just get a container garden and use all that fertilizer on soil.
Do less work, spend less money, grow more food.
I agree with you.
@@GardenerScott I really appreciate your channel and the depth of information you put into all your videos. Thank you for your hard work!
Absolutely agree! Great success with straw bales and chicken manure! Clean the coop in the spring, onto the bales it goes!
I hate watching you tube videos, the music, the non stop chatter about the most mundane action. But this was succinct, informative and your voice is very relaxing. Wow. I listened even thought I realized this would be too expensive for me.
I have a funny story. When I was about 8 years old I asked my pop Dad, may I have a little area in the back yard for a vegetable garden and he said yes. When he got home from work he found that I had dug up and turned about one half of his back yard…… he was Not Happy 😂😂😂😂😂. Going forward he would not have changed a thing 😅. I miss my garden buddy 😢
Chicken manure is the best thing I have found for straw bales.
Gail, so as human urine.
Svetla Nikolova of
And you can use the straw again next year for whatever. ETC
My brother lives in the country and he is always telling me about an old farmer who grows the best tomatoes in stray bales. He didn't know the details so I will have to tell him about your video. Thanks.
NO to Miracle Gro -
Theoretically you could also grow in a paper bag of leaves. Just let them sit over the winter , adding a little nitrogen now and then. Let the rain and snow keep them wet and by spring they would be ready for plants.
I've grown squash in 50 gallon grow bags full of partially decomposed leaves. It required a lot of water and feeding, especially nitrogen. I composted everything at the end of the season and the root balls were massive. I plan to do it again next season in Geobins (220 gallons). I already have them full of leaves - what started out as 20 contractor bags (approximately 800 gallons) of leaves. By the time they're ready to plant, they'll have closer to 25. I've been hitting them hard with various sources of nitrogen to speed up the decomposition. I use coffee grounds, chopped fruit and aqueous solution of urea fertilizer.
I grew a TON of squash last year using hay bales. (Not straw)
I used the same prep steps. And added a cup or so of soil to every hole I made for the seeds.
During the two week process of prepping the hay...it got “some” spots of white hairy mold....but..it went away in just a few days.
Your bales will get dark and start to break down..,so they may need a stake or two to keep them from falling if they dont break down evenly. I never added any more fertilizer either. 🤷🏻♀️ i never had any issues with this method. BUT...I grew the biggest and most beautiful crookneck squash I have ever grown. People driving buy wondered why that lady was watering hay bales...but after about four weeks...it was obvious...and people wanted to stop and talk about the process.
I got even more bales this year...and plan on growing carrots and radishes in them as well as some bush beans. It was my first year to grow a big garden, I am by NO MEANS “experienced.
Never be afraid to try! Enjoy your garden! 🥰❤️🥰
Thanks for sharing your comment. This is my first attempt this I wasn’t able to get straw bales and only hay bale I’m hoping for the best.
By the time I'd add up the costs of the straw, all the fertilizer, and special potting mix....I'd end up with the most expensive veggies I've ever eaten.
I agree. Factor in the time for preparation of the bales alone and the cost is sky-high.
Donald, that is only for the 1st year. After, you just maintain with mushroom compost and leaf mulch.
@@svetlanikolova7673 the straw would finally decompose in afew years and the cycles began again!
@@nguonchan273 ....creating the best compost base ever! A win - win!
Ive spent around 100. and have 16 bales on day 6 of conditioning- I dont consider that expensive!
We're about to start our raised beds using concrete blocks. I came across a book in the library about this and got excited. Husband vetoed the idea so came here for ammo.
Update: I bought the straw and he still said no. 😞 So being as I don't like to waste money I grabbed some dollar store laundry baskets, mixed some oyster mushroom spawn in with the straw it's beautifully inoculated through out so as soon as temps drop I will have an amazing mushroom harvest. 😁
Plot twist, he didn't budge, so I started growing oyster mushrooms in laundry baskets with the straw. We've had several flushes harvested and have expanded to lions mane, shiitake, and chicken of the woods mushrooms.
@@monikasturm2575 if the mushrooms don't show your hubby your right and have great ideas I dunno what will 🤣
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Spend $100 in straw/ and fertilzer for $50 of veggies.
I was thinking about doing straw bales but had no idea it was that much work. Thanks for sharing
Check how the Dutch use straw bales in barns, there's several TH-cam vid's about it. I've never done this much work for my bales and always had quite good success. I think the hard work is because someone has "discovered" a new method of growing, not realizing that this is a play on a very old method.
When I was farming in the UK I used straw bale gardening for over 15 years until I moved away from farming, as I had almost unlimited access to the straw.
When I moved to France I took it up again for 10 or 11 years until I wasn't able to get the small bales anymore. It was here, in France, that I found out this is a typical Dutch way of growing in barns as they have limited access to growing ground. Apparently they lay the bales out over the floor of the barn and soak it for 3 - 4 days until the straw is totally saturated. I laid out my "garden" in the late autumn or early winter and let the rain soak the straw (free water). I never added fertilizer or compost and always had success with my plantings. I grew potatoes by planting them into the straw and various brassicas and squashes by transplants. I never tried sowing seeds though. If I could find an outlet for small bales I'd go back to this method of growing for the above mentioned crops.
I tried straw bale gardening for the first time last year. I am a novice veggie Gardner. The bales appealed to me because I have back problems. I feel in love with this method. It was very successful . I will be doing it again this year. Very good video by the way.
Hi. Are you trying to re-use the bales or will you be starting over?
@@clemturner most don't seem to be reusable . They are all black. Trying to reuse 2 to see if they work. I bought new bales.
Yup! They are awesome for establishing new beds, just watch out for yellowjackes. They like straw. 😏
Thank you for taking the time to record, edit, and upload.
I prefer hay bales over straw. My plants do! The cons of hay is that it breaks down (decomposes) faster. I can deal with that. I have lots less weed growing.
I dont know seems like a lot of work and a lot of money and a wait , i think i will stick to my regular raised beds of soil.
If you look around, you can find free straw bales, or for very cheap. I pay $4 each for them in Minnesota.
Fertilizer can be had for cheap as well. Specially if you fish.
Important to note that straw is not hay. and straw and hay come in different plant species flavors
Doing veggie gardens for the first time this year here in the sand of SC. I have to buy a mix of compost, peat moss, and soil to start. I like this method because the straw plus some additions of fertilizer and potting soil will grow vegetables and also contribute to future soil. Thanks for the great explanation.
I grew pie pumpkins in mine and they did great.
My bales are the same. It is because they were baled with a inline baler.
Thanks for the info.
As usual a very professional presentation delivered at a speed that anyone can follow.....and no stupid repetitive Electronic music in the background [sometimes foreground] to bother.
I agree. Clean and to the point. I learned so much from these videos and with my bad memory, I actually retained more than any other method. But I do get those books recommended by Scott as well, as I am a book worm 😃 thank you, gardener Scott
@@moodieslog About a year ago I made a few Bales using a press I constructed from Wood, made a metal frame and trellis from stiff fencing panels .... costs $20 for a straw bale where I live AND hard to get hold of.!!!!!!!!!
Wanting to grow as organically as possible and not having anything else I prepared them for planting using only diluted Chicken manure over about a month and it worked well.
I am totally happy with results and expect that with a bit of topping up with soil I can harvest another round of Vegetables before having to re-bale.
@@dannyhughes4889 good thing I have chickens :). How did you build your bale press?
@@moodieslog Oh.... that is a complicated thing to answer in detail but much blood, sweat and tears went into it.
I started with watching some excellent Videos on TH-cam and found one with actual dimensions.
However due to where I live I didn't have access to the material as featured so had to make do with what I had on hand.....lots of pre-loved stuff.
Not planning on building another I haven't bother to sketch the design I came up with but if I had my time over again I would have paid to have it fabricated in Metal.
It would probably be a more expensive way to go but if you plan to use one for many years it may be worth it.
Then again I don't know what you pay for a Bale in your area and accessibility so you would have to do the Math.
Get back to me if you want my feedback on how I prepared the Bales using Chicken Manure...I didn't keep exact details but can point you in the general direction for you to experiment with.
I didn't have access to Commercial products so CM was all I had to work with.
@@dannyhughes4889 paying about $10 for a bale here. Guess it's probably worth it lol
By the way my last name is Scott. Hee Hee
Thank you for this video! So nicely put together. I love all the details! After watching other straw bail videos I thought I just needed my seeds, a straw bail and a little dirt 😳
Fantastic content. Your calm demeanor and quality information makes the learning enjoyable. Got a vibe Like the BobRoss of gardening.
Thank you for the beautiful detailed and informative way in which you are sharing knowledge. I'm certainly grateful for the calm, yet technically enclined explanations, giving better understanding into the why and how questions that keep popping up in my process of gathering information re building a straw bale garden.
I did tomatoes and basil in straw bales best tomatoes 🍅 I have ever grown!
Awesome. Thanks for the info.
I used Urea instead of bloodmeal bc it's more concentrated nitrogen, so fewer bags. It's also water soluble, more than blood meal. It worked faster.
Hey gdr Scott! What's your thoughts on wrapping the bales with plastic with soaker hose inside, or using drip system. Think of any benefits or disadvantages? Thanks
Lay them out in the winter and let nature water them for free
Let me guess, these straw beds turn into super-mulch.
Yes. Absolutely.
Same as how plants like growing in the compost pile.
Extremely interesting. I like the idea. My only concern will be the rodents. I live in central Florida and snakes and their friends they always around. Thanks for the information.
Very expensive way to garden . Fertilizer is not cheap and not everything needs to be so exact.
I’ll be getting started in southern Arizona at end of summer, can’t wait!
Loved this.You answered lots of my questions.Thank you.
Subscribe to this guy. He's great. Great videos.
Anyone know on day 7, 8 & 9 what is the appropriate fertilizer to use?
Thanks for your insight and instructions. Great information Scott!
would need more nitrogen ? straw has herbicide in it. I seen this done and they failed. just not the best way
QUESTION Scott
I know it's an older video but I'm starting this method now.
Can I use coffee grounds to soak the bales or will they take too long to break down?
Can I use my finished Compost instead of potting soil?
Until I get them in my fenced garden do I need to worry about deer going after the bales?
Thank You
Mike
You can use grounds but they do take a long time to break down and don't have much nitrogen when compared to a high nitrogen fertilizer. Compost can be used. My deer have not eaten the bales because they prefer green growth.
A good alternative to the dried blood is Urea....WE can get it here locally in New Brunswick Canada for well under $1/pound and it is 46% Nitrogen. It really kickstarts the decomposition process into high gear
Yes! That's good stuff.
Thank's I learn a lot :-) Have a nice day sir!
Tks for sharing this information with us
I tried this. It didn’t work and my entire yard got seeded and is now completely covered in weeds. Don’t do this
Eric Ferguson straw is straw
Please consider putting cardboard under your straw bales. Then use wood chips to keep down the weeds. I also wrap my straw bales with chicken wire and zip ties to keep the straw bales intact. It’s best to replace your straw bales each year. I take the old straw and put it on top of the new straw bales. I let my straw bales sit out and season all winter. It helps with the decomposition process. It’s also less work in the spring.
Great video. We are trying our first straw bale garden this year. What is the best way to prevent the straw seeds from sprouting or, in our case, once they have already sprouted? We prefer to not use a commercial weed killer if possible.
It may not be possible to keep the straw seeds from sprouting without a pre-emergent herbicide which could affect your plants. Once they sprout, they're easy to pull out.
I'd like to see a video of starting a strawbale garden 1st year,2nd year planting and then on 3rd year using all of that straw to start a no till garden,i have used straw to build soil up to an 8 inch depth before inside my chicken coop,so im wanting to this in my garden by adding leaves grass clippings small twigs ect during the winter after the 2nd year in preparation for my 3rd year season and hopefully have about a foot of nice soft nutrient rich soil that i have produced
Typically the bale isn't used for more than two years. It can decompose quickly.
After losing most of my watermelon crop to what I believe was either too much water or some sort of fungus such as fusarium wilt, I am considering grow bags. I know the down side is they take a lot of watering but I only plan to use 3 or 4 bags. Any comments or suggestions appreciated.
Grow bags can be a great way to garden. This video may help you get started: th-cam.com/video/nNGTQm-yD4U/w-d-xo.html
Just an fyi I would figure something else at least 12 inches off the ground for those bales because there’s a 100% chance the fire ants will consume that bale in a matter of days, raised beds i still deal with ants but only in corners they won’t consume the whole box but they will the whole bale of hay I’ve done it already and wouldn’t do it again only if I was way off the ground
I don't have fire ants and haven't had to do that. Elevating the bales can reduce problems when you do.
Straw bail gardening is expensive. Its labor intensive moving the bails. They take a lot of water. Lasagna gardening is much better and cheaper. If your growing tomatoes make a bed to keep you lawn mower clipping out. Add gypsum for calcium. Use cardboard and last falls leaves. You won't have to weed. I did the organic thing for 15 years and it became a burden. I now use gypsum, a little Milorganite, a little 10-10-10, at the beginning of the season in everything I grow. I used to use fish emulsion/water fertilizer as the plants grew to harvest. I'll be using Miracle gro blue from now on every 10 days to 14 days. Its so much more cheaper and will do the job for sure. The biggest thing in gardening is to have fun. When I was first gardening I used Miracle Gro blue and cow manure. It was so simple and at that time I knew nothing after coming out of the military. That's all I can say is make sure your adding calcium if your fertilizer doesn't list it on the label. Just get gypsum its cheap and will last a few years.
I didn't much care for the miracle grow soil, but other than that its a great idea!!
Miracle grow is a great product. For the average person it works great. Plants don't care where the food comes from. You could use urine and wood ash if you want real honest organic.
Most people are clueless and will not put forth the time like this gentleman. I live in the northland and people up here can't afford to screw up. If MG helps the average person don't knock it. After they learn more from trial and error they'll do better.
Hello Gardener Scott, I'm getting a bunch of bales tonight and we're going to see if we can get stuff growing in them in the coming months. We plan to use the remains this fall to create good soil for the next year. I was wondering how often do we need to add fertilizer to the bales after the first 12 days and which fertilzer do you recommend? A balanced one or a nitrogen rich one?
After plants are in place use a balanced fertilizer or one that is appropriate for the specific plant.
One thing wasn't mentioned I bought some bails and got to thinking should i prepare them now or wait till three weeks before I plant ( It is mid December )
I dont have water out in my garden, I have to haul it out so this wouldn't work for me. Also I was thinking $$$$$ while you were pouring all that fertilizer. Thanks for the video it was very educational.
Straw bales have gotten unaffordable in New York for 18 x 14 x 36 $14 per bale
Well unless you know a farmer to buy your straw typical Farm Store like country max 7. 49 a Bale that is not cheap and who is to say the farmer who grew that wheat did not lace those straws with chemicals
Boy!
Am I glad I clicked on this. I'm 4 days in to conditioning my bale and just now realized I have a 're-baled' bale. Turning it over to it's side wasn't as easy as when it was dry! lol
Glad I didn't start planting yet. I'm using pure UREA (46-0-0) to fertilize my bale.
I have problems with moles, do I have to put something under the bales?
Placing the bales on top of hardware cloth can deter the moles that might want to burrow in.
doesnt look practical at all
I am so excited to try this method. I look forward to the use of the left over straw. Thank you so much!
Couldn't you use coffee grounds as some of the nitrogen? And kelp for potassium?
Wood ash also works.
Sure, but coffee grounds don't have as much nitrogen as other options.
You've put your straw bales on their flats, therefore the straws are running horizontally, with their cut ends at the sides. Contrary to what you stated.
The cut ends are always on the narrower sides, not the sides with the strings .
Hi Gardener Scott, I'm going to try straw bales to help increase organic matter over time. I've seen you mention urine before in your videos for nitrogen; would you recommend it for prepping straw bales? Thank you ! 😊
I would. It adds a small amount of nitrogen at no cost and helps keep the bale moist too.
@@GardenerScott thank you! That's a lot cheaper than blood meal!
Glad you got to it in the end- straw bale growing can work really well but in general is an expensive gimmick. One error- alfalfa is in fact a wonderful growing medium as it is rich in nitrogen and other nutrients.
very good, Scott
Can you use horse manure as your nitrogen because blood meal gets a really expensive in a market
Horse manure might work as an option.
Seems to me that it would be easier to make a raised bed and start planting. But maybe I'm missing something.....
I look for a how-to video in the first thing that pops up is a gardener Scott and I got really excited
Thank you for this information! Can I stick a trellis or two into the bales? Will they hold well? Thanks, Margie
It depends on the size of the trellis. Wet bales are heavy and can support small ones. Big trellises might tear out of the bale without extra support.
@GardenerScott Thank you so much! I think I'll look at the "ladder mesh". I just read about it.
Heard of potatoes being grown this way. Called a lazy bed.
Very interesting
Thank you gardener Scott! I always wondered how to grow in a straw bale! New subscriber and love your channel!
Thanks, Gigi. Welcome to the channel.
I can see this method of gardening useful for those who REALLY want to garden but have limited space or areas to put in a proper garden. But all in all this is a very expensive way to garden and should be avoided if money is a factor. One of those bales in my area costs $10.
Good thing I supported the bales with 2 x 8 and 2x6 boards on the sides. My bales have totally turned to mush. Beautiful compost. Now with Broccoli, yellow peppers, cucumbers and an eggplant. Just knowing what or how to feed them now?? I’m trying instead of a tablespoon per gallon of water each 10 days to 2 weeks. I’m putting that same gallon in 10 gallons of water and giving every day. We will see. 5 gallon buckets and I’m starting a hydroponic cucumber today
A balanced fertilizer like 10-10-10 should work until they start setting fruit. You probably don't need weekly fertilization.
I did this last year & it worked ... kinda. It takes more time & effort in the long run than a box. Also, it collapsed towards the end of summer due to biodegradation.
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This is an intriguing and informative video, especially because I already have the basics to get started.
I have a couple of extra straw bales that I purchased last fall (for additional brown material in my compost), as well as a couple of gallons of urea pellets (46% N). I might give this method a try.
While I'm not convinced it's worth the effort, I'll try it to satisfy my curiosity. I'm wondering (since you posted this 3 years ago), if you continue to practice this method?
I don't grow in bales every year, but like to use it to get the soil ready in areas for new beds.
Too expensive.
Mulching your straw beds with straw. Straw inception
Is urea 4600 a good choice for nitrogen?
It is a good nitrogen source. Because it has more nitrogen than most garden fertilizers you won't need as much.
Would it help if yo enclose bales in homemade pallet bin
You can do that, but it probably isn't necessary.
with all the prep; and since straw is basically the carbon portion; would it be also ideal to use straw as a frequent layer in compost bins,(or in-ground for next season) and use that in the garden as part of a long term /later season plan? if it's a hot-compost pile/bin, then seeds should not be an issue.(?)
also: was there mention of making sure your straw source is herbicide free? there's other video gardeners who've had problems growing in herbicide-laden straw..
(asking, not criticizing..)
Yes, straw can be a brown layer in compost and hot compost will reduce the seed problem. Here's my video about herbicides in straw: th-cam.com/video/_mWpU_N5kTo/w-d-xo.html
Gardner Scott, I see wood chips in squared-off areas in the background. Can you explain what the wood chip areas are for? I ask because I have a lot of wood chips left over from some big stump grinding that I need to figure out what to do with. I'm thinking they're good for 'under conditioning' for good soil later? BTW... I think you do a very good, informative video, but I'm not sure if all the cost of conditioning the bales is really worth it...? Thanks!
Those are beds for fruit bushes. I'll be adding a pergola and paths in that area but wanted to get the beds in place and planted.
Hi Getting ready to start conditioning my bales here in Boston. Do you know what volume of blood meal is equal to 5 pounds?
I don't know the exact volume because it's usually sold by weight.
So if I have a raised bed. 3x3 by 12 inchs deep. Can I use straw and dirt combined. For potatoes. And add dirt or straw or soil as they grow
Potatoes can grow well in a mix with straw.
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I'm sorry, what's the point of this? It seems like regular raised beds would be simpler than basically having to make the soil to plant in. You even have to add potting soil anyway. The point at the beginning about putting them anywhere and being contained also applies to raised beds, doesn't it?
The point is that this is an option for some gardeners. It's not for everyone.
I just did the conditioning process and I have so much grass sprouting. How do I get rid of the grass? It is straw, not hay. Bales got up to 100 degrees. Too much to pull
The grass comes from the seed in the straw. Some straw has many seeds. You can try letting the bales dry for a few days to kill the sprouts and pulling as much as you can.
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Can you get most of these products at Walmart or Lowes. HomeDepotlet me know if you can
Thanks for the great video....first time trying the straw bale method.....
I want to place them up against a white plastic fence and don’t want them to stain the white fence. Should I place them a distance from the fence to avoid staining? I’m new at this, I’m renting and don’t want to damage the property. Thank you.
With the twine in place the bales stay together so you may only need a few inches of clearance.
You talked about using dry blood what about using fresh chicken blood?
I've never used it, but if you have a source it could serve the same purpose.
It is December and I am hoping to start a straw bale garden in the spring. Can I put the bales outside now, or should I store them in the garage (I will be buying from a local farmer)?
I would put them out now. If you have any concerns about possible herbicide contamination, exposure to the weather for months can help dissipate any chemicals. The exposure will also help start the decomposition of the straw that is needed for plants to grow.
It is a great idea and it works but bales are $10 each here. I can buy a whole cubic yard of tree chips for $12. I know that is apples and oranges but only to an extent. A 1' by 3' by 1' box of finely-ground wood chips with a compost topping might do just as well at a fraction of the price. Do you have any experience with bokashi treated wood chips?
I haven't used bokashi treated chips but have mixed regular compost with them. Both are a good way to add beneficial organic matter.