EPIC StarCraft 2 Match! Clem vs Dark

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  • StarCraft 2 Tournament Gamers 8 2023 - Clem and Dark face off in one of the highest level Terran vs Zerg series I've ever seen!
    StarCraft 2 Legacy of the Void - Gamers8 Main Event 2023 - Dark (Zerg) vs Clem (Terran) - Best of 3
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ความคิดเห็น • 154

  • @Juggling_n_stuff
    @Juggling_n_stuff ปีที่แล้ว +50

    We need a reality tv show about brenda and her knitting crew 😂

    • @VaultBoy0724
      @VaultBoy0724 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’d want it to be a few animated shorts by Carbot, voiced by Winter.

    • @thokar81
      @thokar81 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the boys (pulled scvs) (angry scv blocking you way to the toilette with enigineering bay and the mutalisks (with cow bells)... 😅

    • @jedimindtrick3391
      @jedimindtrick3391 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol I would be down

    • @jedimindtrick3391
      @jedimindtrick3391 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@thokar81I literally couldn't understand that

    • @l4unchp4dgaming38
      @l4unchp4dgaming38 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Brenda SUPER CUT LETS GO!

  • @veranicus6696
    @veranicus6696 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I am a little history nerd. And the dry delivery of :"as a frenchman Clem knows one or two things about killing queens..." Had me cracking. I nearly spilled my coffee.
    Thank you for another great cast.

    • @tryptamigo
      @tryptamigo ปีที่แล้ว +5

      winter is a master at off the cuff commentary. it's why i watch these videos and never even played SC2. there's more to it than just commentating (or is it called casting) a game.

  • @brendondevilliers1350
    @brendondevilliers1350 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Clem, when he's on his game, is my favourite terran player to watch.
    Hero is the similar counterpart for Protoss, but Clem is more consistently on his game.
    And Dark is the Zerg equivalent.
    So this match is one of the best.

  • @BarringtonDrive
    @BarringtonDrive ปีที่แล้ว +17

    17 minutes in, Dark just casually times a perfect retreat... amazing.

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

    • @yugonostalgia8961
      @yugonostalgia8961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@FRIEDorCHIPSCalm down bro. Ghosts need to be nerfed, widow mines removed, but that's basically it for SC2 rebalancing

    • @Amoeby
      @Amoeby ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@FRIEDorCHIPS gimme dem zerg tears.

  • @Dontmindme777
    @Dontmindme777 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was perfect timing. Lunch break just started

  • @stuartbeirne8976
    @stuartbeirne8976 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Winter one of the best casts in a long time. And you're recent casts have been amazing this one is just better!
    Thanks for bringing this game to the people.
    Keep up the good work, you do make my day better bringing the best games to the fans!

  • @LotusPicker
    @LotusPicker ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can relate so much to the story of Sniping twice and losing the rest of the ghosts. True story Winter. Those guys are incredible at their micro game.

  • @n0madfernan257
    @n0madfernan257 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    The Kid is smashin' it. Hope you cast him more often O Lord Winter.

  • @konstantinalpatov1221
    @konstantinalpatov1221 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Phenomenal casting, perfect BIlly highlights and terrific games. Thanks, Winter!

  • @MrZiva82
    @MrZiva82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Those hellions frying the flanking lings made all the difference in the last game. If he lost them in a drone hunt the main attack would fail. Very well played by Clem.

  • @leoyoman
    @leoyoman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The foresight to leave the hellions exactly where the zergling surround would be coming from, with room to retreat is so well calculated 56:15

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ghost:
    -Can shoot up shoot down
    -Anti-Spell caster
    -Can Cloak
    -Anti-protoss
    -Can call down the only Superweapon(NUKE) in the game
    -Deletes all but few bio units in 1 snipe
    Direct counters are:
    -Ghosts
    -bad micro

  • @tjclarke4604
    @tjclarke4604 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    That game 1 had me glued to the screen, that was rad! Friggin' savage! All good games, great commentary as always, an awesome vid!

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @juanfisi
    @juanfisi ปีที่แล้ว

    The first game went from: "Nice quick paced game"; to "Holly damn this went to a super late game lets goo!"; to "EEEEND, FREAKING EEEEND!"

  • @WiseWik
    @WiseWik ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I salute Billy. We may never know his final days.

  • @jmguezz3789
    @jmguezz3789 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think one of the traits of being a pro sc2 player is poking to see the army composition of the opponent.. Clem's solo tank on the main base is a good defense to prevent nydus..

  • @TheFluke32
    @TheFluke32 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:23
    Brenda..! We ride!
    *eats a reaper grenade*
    N-not like that.
    😂😂😂😂

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon
    @Chimpy_Mc_Gibbon ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saved to watch later list! Thanks Winter!

  • @Venom-kf6jp
    @Venom-kf6jp ปีที่แล้ว

    "If I know Dark, and I like to think I do, if not his mind, his heart, of the swarm" lol

  • @bottlewishez7889
    @bottlewishez7889 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yesss! Two of my favorite players.

  • @simmonsj
    @simmonsj ปีที่แล้ว

    “30” Ghosts have died!”
    “Arglarglargh”
    “31!”
    😂😂😂

  • @okachobe1
    @okachobe1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The final charge in the first game was awesome! I'm glad he went for it

  • @adamh.4933
    @adamh.4933 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'm amazed at how balanced these games can be. Keep up the great work Winter

  • @Telorchid
    @Telorchid ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Second game was cinematic! And Clem evoked Maru at times, if I dare say. Very enjoyable cast.

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

    • @motan7864
      @motan7864 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FRIEDorCHIPS just play terran and quit weeping

  • @TritonTv69420
    @TritonTv69420 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That first match pissed me off. If dark cant beat ghost tank thor how am i supposed to. I think they need to reduce snipe range and increase the time by 0.5 seconds to snipe. Snipe is ridiculously over powered.

    • @warr39
      @warr39 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Terran in general is OP, also im not playing sc2 im just watching Winter (i played alot of broodwar).

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe. Snipe cast time i wouldn't be sure about, it gives reaction time but doesn't exactly change anything else. reduction in range could make things less about the terran trying to keep thr zerg stalled and whittling them down though, because you have to dive in more.
      The real trick to beating it is, of course, that you aren't playing against clem. Just fecking pull the trigger, what they going do, outmicro you? You have fungal, just press the button and they can't move, let alone micro.

    • @KingOfNebbishes
      @KingOfNebbishes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Santisima_Trinidad The big problem I see when I see late game TvZ is that ghosts are exposed to minimal danger because snipes outrange almost everything the Zerg has and kills all his high tech units in one snipe. All he had to do was creep forward half a step, siege up again, and let the ghosts sit there and kill everything. Zero counterplay, because you can't even destroy the economy with ling runbys.
      Something should be done, but I doubt it will because Terran is played twice as much as Zerg and Blizzard doesn't dare risk pissing off twice as many players.

    • @Santisima_Trinidad
      @Santisima_Trinidad ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@KingOfNebbishes blizzard don't patch the game anymore, its all in the hands of the zerg cabal, i mean the community balance council.
      Also, snipe needs at least 2 casts to kill most zerg units. But thats a nitpick
      Should also note that it's hard to balance counterplay when zerg counterplay is "all your units belong to us", which means no matter how balanced your own forces are, zerg can just them against you.

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i keep wondering each time i see such an end games. how would it looked like before the nerf storm hit the zerg race. was broodlord infestor op? maybe. does zerg have anything cost effective and powerful now? hell no

  • @blockboygames5956
    @blockboygames5956 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great commentary, great match set. Wow. Clem is really something.

  • @brycecox8249
    @brycecox8249 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clems era of widow mines defeating serral is still amazing

  • @kirill429
    @kirill429 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good call on the timestamps- gonna keep an eye out in the future!

  • @TehJumpingJawa
    @TehJumpingJawa ปีที่แล้ว +3

    At this level of play it must be so frustrating to play Zerg in the end-game; so hopelessly outclassed by Terran.

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว

      zerg does not have endgame thanks blizz. it's painfully obvious looking at the game .zerg has it. in broodlord infestor era. not anymore

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว

      it rarely becomes visible because guys like clem or dark usually kill opponent much earlier, that's how insanely good they are.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      #makeultrasgoodagain #deletebanelings

  • @justadudeN72
    @justadudeN72 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:45 "Man I'm not gonna watch these casts if he leaves health bars off"
    2:00 "Okay cool"

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

    • @justadudeN72
      @justadudeN72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FRIEDorCHIPS Why is this replied to my comment, my comment is in regards to heatth bars in the first like 2 minutes of the game. No ghosts, no infestors.

  • @TigerGeorgeUK
    @TigerGeorgeUK ปีที่แล้ว

    Billy's story was so dramatic and emotional. My favourite highlight. Billlyyyyy

  • @benballard6132
    @benballard6132 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here for the starcraft, but i'm also here for the hearthstone card introductions.

  • @brettpeterson6024
    @brettpeterson6024 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    JIMMY!!!!!!!! HEALTH BARS!!!!!!!!

  • @javierribes3620
    @javierribes3620 ปีที่แล้ว

    The amount of effort that requieres control all these differents units is huge. Clem did what the rest of terrans can only dream

  • @VictorAlyCS
    @VictorAlyCS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    🤯🤯🤯is crazy watch this level

  • @clanscag
    @clanscag ปีที่แล้ว

    That first game was crazy!

  • @ericconnor8419
    @ericconnor8419 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wish they would put this game on Steam I used to love playing this when I was a kid. It seem strange they don't want to sell it.

  • @tryptamigo
    @tryptamigo ปีที่แล้ว

    game 2 is the biggest standoff i've seen in SC2, and it's sandwiched between comically fast games.

  • @ohiocatfishing1238
    @ohiocatfishing1238 ปีที่แล้ว

    First match was easily a game of the year candidate

  • @josuepereira9782
    @josuepereira9782 ปีที่แล้ว

    When I saw the map was Gresven and the non-Terran player did not had 3x the resources banked I knew Terran would win so I just skipped to the end of the match and I was right.
    SC2 is a truly balanced game.

  • @WolfGangDealers
    @WolfGangDealers ปีที่แล้ว

    You can't tease me with nukes in the thumbnail like that. Im already hooked now

  • @gabrielcapsa6268
    @gabrielcapsa6268 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Run for his money part was really nice

  • @barshak
    @barshak ปีที่แล้ว

    Billy the hero marine... such a legend!

  • @jacksonframpton7751
    @jacksonframpton7751 ปีที่แล้ว

    31:48 winter days a tank kills the nuking ghost but dark manually selected the brood kings to take out the ghost at the very last second. Beautiful stuff

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @bcfisk
    @bcfisk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Game 2: The Book of Billy

  • @joshuarock4631
    @joshuarock4631 ปีที่แล้ว

    He's no kid no more, he's a cutie now

  • @romansolar8153
    @romansolar8153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clem is really something

  • @okachobe1
    @okachobe1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I could not imagine brood lords with 3 extra range. That sounds unreal

  • @psluxton
    @psluxton ปีที่แล้ว

    By 12 minutes into the 1st game I would've started making or made 2 "kill squads" of 5 Banshees to harass the Lings/Roach/Ravager army.
    Then transition into Ghosts with nukes that you place randomly to try and catch the zerg army, or to delete the zerg drones to reduce their instant reinforcement capabilities.
    The Banshee squads can also knock out key buildings when possible, flank the army, remove key targets, or harass any retreat thereby increasing the time until they can next engage (get a little more breathing room between battles).
    It's not a massive amount of supply to reserve, but the benefits can be phenomenal mid-game.
    10 Banshees flanking an army that can't shoot back? What's not to love about that? 😍

  • @johntucket9221
    @johntucket9221 ปีที่แล้ว

    Always good to learn more about whether Zerg or Protoss wear shoes. Nice to spice up the usual 'protoss has no mouth' joke :) :D
    Love you Winter, thanks for the videos, I watch everyday

  • @1389Chopin
    @1389Chopin ปีที่แล้ว

    Hare trigger and mad hops?! Lmao did you make a marie Antoinette reference

  • @MattMarshallUK
    @MattMarshallUK ปีที่แล้ว

    In that last game did Clem not commit the hellions specifically to intercept a zergling flank?

  • @johnnyq2486
    @johnnyq2486 ปีที่แล้ว

    The legend of Billy Jean

  • @skewCZ
    @skewCZ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The first game, when Clem is sieging top left and Dark throws broodlings at his ghosts, and Clem only cloaks the two or three at the front to save them from more attacks but at the same time get in the way of the broodlings and protect the remaining ghosts. The speed and the precision, holy crap.

  • @yugonostalgia8961
    @yugonostalgia8961 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've ... come to the realization that ghosts are a necessary evil - terrans do need something to counter spellcasters and something beefier than marines. BUT having 30 ghosts at a time, which is not even expensive, just makes the game so much less fun - there's no actual counter to ghosts, especially with cloak and medivacs. My proposal is a limit of 8 ghosts at a time - not being the bulk of the army but a powerful support caster like every other race's spellcasters

    • @DiscombobulatingName
      @DiscombobulatingName ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I feel like the ghost utility should be split across multiple units. Like maybe move EMP to the Raven or something.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      except they die to zergling/bane...tier 1 and 1.5 units

    • @wuschu5563
      @wuschu5563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cavemantero a ghost costs less than the amout of banes required to kill him, just saying.
      Obviously there are scenarios where they hit multiple ghosts/bio, but also many banes die before reaching their targets... And don't ghosts two shot zerglings with some upgrades?
      i'm not saying the ghost is busted, but that the answer is not as simple as lingbane.

  • @rvgr12
    @rvgr12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Clem, my fav Terran to watch 🔥

  • @zetekfr
    @zetekfr ปีที่แล้ว

    GG big Clem!

  • @gagnong4738
    @gagnong4738 ปีที่แล้ว

    Winter doesnt get enough love

  • @Mantwawn
    @Mantwawn ปีที่แล้ว

    like the way you commentate haha so goofy, its wonderful

  • @genaricTallGuy
    @genaricTallGuy ปีที่แล้ว

    I watch all ur vids- they put me to sleep every night. Does that make me the nerd, or you? Or does it just make me an avid fan

  • @Grond112358
    @Grond112358 ปีที่แล้ว

    JIMMY WHERE ARE THE HEALTH BARS

  • @recordscoordinator1257
    @recordscoordinator1257 ปีที่แล้ว

    Billy was the real MVP of the game.

  • @charlesimsande2822
    @charlesimsande2822 ปีที่แล้ว

    May starcraft reign forever/

  • @rivershy
    @rivershy ปีที่แล้ว

    youtube short: 44:40 billy the fearless

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @kungpochopedtuna
    @kungpochopedtuna ปีที่แล้ว

    38 ish what a move so close

  • @romansolar8153
    @romansolar8153 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great commentary

  • @tehstrongbad
    @tehstrongbad ปีที่แล้ว

    Zerg seem so easy to play. Getting harassed early? No big deal just spam a fuckload of queens. They have a simple answer to everything.

  • @wazigemattie
    @wazigemattie ปีที่แล้ว

    the skill is ......no words

  • @Fanaro
    @Fanaro ปีที่แล้ว

    It looks like a ZvZ tug of war.

  • @bluerules4
    @bluerules4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Medivac boost should cost energy. Way too good of a unit.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. Best support unit in the game aside from Queens. Why queens? They cost 0 gas.

  • @geraldredlinger9176
    @geraldredlinger9176 ปีที่แล้ว

    Let's go Clem, You are better than Dark. Believe in yourself and keep winning

  • @chemicallust77
    @chemicallust77 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why didn't Clem build any battlecruisers??

  • @arandomperson8336
    @arandomperson8336 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks!

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @choncis8318
    @choncis8318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing battles. Great video

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @Mat-oh3xe
    @Mat-oh3xe ปีที่แล้ว

    Is there a site like draft kings but for SC2? I could get a collage fund betting on Dark.

  • @elgar7252
    @elgar7252 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Ghost topic - Ghosts are required to beat Zerg, and that's why they HAVE to be so good until any other unit Terran has gains the ability to fight back against Infestors and Vipers. They're the only stopping block keeping those units from making it impossible for Terran to win.

  • @evancollier6407
    @evancollier6407 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re an amazing commentator:)

  • @michaelmartingorman
    @michaelmartingorman ปีที่แล้ว

    I am become death destroyer of worlds

  • @cathulionetharn5139
    @cathulionetharn5139 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank You
    Om nom nom

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @djuraster
    @djuraster ปีที่แล้ว

    Kid id going places

  • @Star-ef6dr
    @Star-ef6dr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I know I'm bad at the game but why does every single game vs Terran seem like such an uphill battle. How is it balanced?

    • @TritonTv69420
      @TritonTv69420 ปีที่แล้ว

      It sucks as a zerg main. There is no good splash damage for zerg.

    • @rsanghi24
      @rsanghi24 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yet zerg wins everything.

    • @chaotikkiller1617
      @chaotikkiller1617 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's because Winter doesn't cast every game and not every game goes well for Terran, I believe the race that statistically wins the most at the high level it's Zerg by a long shot followed by Protoss with Terran sitting at 3rd for total wins.

    • @johnkalyvas4838
      @johnkalyvas4838 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The other two races typically get their economy up faster and get more bases, and the game is designed for them to crush the terran with their eco advantage. You can see in the first game that Dark lost his roaches in the attack on the 3rd and then lost his own 4th in the counterattack. After that Clem was about even on eco and Dark was on borrowed time, eventually the terran army critical mass and orbitals become too much and zerg losses. In the 2nd game the same roach timing attack worked and won him the game. In the 3rd game Dark was just unprepared for an attack, Clem had a huge army supply advantage before the fight despite Dark not taking many losses beforehand.

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TritonTv69420 definitely not banelings...definitely not parasitic bomb...definitely not fungal growth

  • @tabula_rosa
    @tabula_rosa ปีที่แล้ว

    anyone else find rotating the screen to be disorienting? when its to show stuff happening behind air units i get it but otherwise it just makes it hard for me to keep track of the action

  • @veranicus6696
    @veranicus6696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Also, the games are more enjoyable with you casting them..

  • @NathanielNow
    @NathanielNow ปีที่แล้ว

    Woww

  • @CantusTropus
    @CantusTropus ปีที่แล้ว

    For the algorithm

  • @JohnSmith-mo6re
    @JohnSmith-mo6re ปีที่แล้ว

    AAAHHHHH WHEN WILL PPL LEARN?!?! Roach-Ravager SUCK late game, their DPS is too SLOW, you need hydras and lings and banes in the mix too!
    That's why every time Zerg would gain an army lead it's quickly wiped because roach-ravagers get picked off easy and Terr just sit there and heal quick. You need QUICKER damage to take out Terr piles.
    Whilst lings can be sort of "sacrificial", when you have a leading army of something like roach-ravager, the lings are distraction AND the SEIGES blast THEIR OWN army too trying to take out the lings, which help IMMENSELY.
    Tech switching to pure ling-bane afterwards is shit too because they don't move fast enough to catch up! Half the army is gone before you even REACH the Terr, and only IF they stopped partway or got held up by like a choke or something! You need ranged attackers to keep them busy whilst Terr retreat. Hence they ALL gotta be in the mix!!

  • @cavemantero
    @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

    Maaan...do not bring up ghosts being op...yes they are terran's best all-in-one unit...they are still not on par with queens. The problem isn't terran honestly imo its Zerg. Zerg is still the broken race. Banelings are still busted and Dark wasted half the game on RR instead of using the most broken unit in the game. Ultras suck and that shouldn't be how it is. If you want to blame something blame the liberators zoning potential in combination with ghost snipe cover. I think maybe Protoss should've gotten the 'liberator' and Terran gotten Valkeries back with maybe a ground attack upgrade that doesn't delete units like libs do. But that's only because Clem had to literally play a perfect long drawn out game to do it. He already had sick micro but now he's developed a macro and tactical game and now Terran's broken? No one can play like Clem except maybe Byun. Like lol ok.

  • @FRIEDorCHIPS
    @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

    ll garbage
    INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
    Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
    The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
    Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
    Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
    No race is more expensive than the Zerg
    One last thing on my mind.
    Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
    Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
    Zerg have no such units
    Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
    nonono, please delete the zerg
    SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
    Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      zergling auto, baneling auto explode, hydras auto, corruptors auto, broodlords auto, ultralist auto, queens auto...wtf are you talking about? attack while moving? Ok sure then delete brood lords and swarm host and get something else. Siege tank should be able to attack while moving too.

  • @mykhailomiroshnikov
    @mykhailomiroshnikov ปีที่แล้ว

    So... nerf terran I guess?

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว

      pvt is quite balanced each time i watch it. you need to buff zerg, but then serral will wipe the floor with everyone else, so zerg will never get any buffs. and besides, blizz does not give a f about sc2

    • @FRIEDorCHIPS
      @FRIEDorCHIPS ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Zerg units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the zerg a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Zerg most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Zerg adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Zerg
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Zerg have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the zerg
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much!

  • @rommelpesimo8411
    @rommelpesimo8411 ปีที่แล้ว

    You cant commentate if youre pretending you can commentate. How many times this guy wrongly commented. Id rather listen to the background music than his insights

    • @TritonTv69420
      @TritonTv69420 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Haha then just turn off the video. Or get the replays yourself. Haha.

    • @KonaKreator
      @KonaKreator ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He’s only been doing this for a decade. He misses stuff but it’s hard to catch everything and have an entertainment focused style rather than analysis

    • @rivershy
      @rivershy ปีที่แล้ว

      Why are you here then?

  • @mindtaker299
    @mindtaker299 ปีที่แล้ว

    zerg players rarely have an answer for medivac.

  • @mindtaker299
    @mindtaker299 ปีที่แล้ว

    dark is bad

  • @GotEmAll1337
    @GotEmAll1337 ปีที่แล้ว

    Scarlett... the Queen of Blades. Dark... the Heart of the Swarm. Serral... the Overmind. AKA the holy Trinity of the Zerg

  • @ryane.1383
    @ryane.1383 ปีที่แล้ว

    33:05 wtf is that broken animation on the brood lord's broodlings??

  • @AxelTT555
    @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    absolutely insane level of skill and great cast, thanks Winter. zerg endgame vs terran endgame looks quite hopeless though, tbh. they both control very complex armies that require a lot of micro. but terran efficiency is a bit too strong. so zerg just gets out of money, if opponents are matched so tightly in terms of skill.

    • @AxelTT555
      @AxelTT555 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and broods stats really piss me off. that unit meant to rule the sky vs ground, as it's crazy expensive and deal less damage, but it adds over time. why in the hell the range is so pathetic.

    • @elgar7252
      @elgar7252 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Take a look at it from the Protoss and Terran perspective.
      Vipers and Infestors are so insanely busted in terms of how much 1-2 of them can shave off of extremely expensive armies. Carriers, Motherships, Thors and Battlecruisers... all EXCESSIVELY expensive and 'supposedly' effective units... Completely useless because of Abduct and Neural Parasite. (In late game)
      And Dark has shown plenty of times that a ball of Ghosts isn't hopeless. And he's not even Reynor or Serral who are both more threatening Zerg players than he.

  • @rocketrockinit
    @rocketrockinit ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Winner winner chicken dinner

    • @n0madfernan257
      @n0madfernan257 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      * winner winter *

    • @cavemantero
      @cavemantero ปีที่แล้ว

      ll garbage
      INFESTOR skill Deleted but Ghost skill always non Deleted!!!!WTH!
      Chicken units are expensive to upgrade and take a long time to complete
      The tech building is also expensive, but you have to invest 50 more minerals called drones there and pay 50 minerals again to produce the lost drone
      Are the chicken a cheap tribe? Fukshieeeeet. Chicken most expensive and inefficient tribe
      Chicken adds minerals and gas when transforming units
      No race is more expensive than the Chicken
      One last thing on my mind.
      Terran Cyclone & Battle Cruiser can auto-attack
      Protoss Phoenix & Carrier can auto-attack
      Chicken have no such units
      Blizzard needs to patch these issues quickly
      nonono, please delete the chicken
      SC2 only requires Terran and Protoss
      Blizzard Always just trash balance thank you so much! 😂

  • @MoonShroomMan
    @MoonShroomMan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i mean its not really that complicated. seige up everything and you only need to micro 15 ghosts. such a stupidly broken unit