I want to pin a comment here, something I wish I was more clear in the video. I am NOT saying there is no impact for roundup ingestion when I mention the "80% of Americans have glyphosate in their urine" study. There is a TON of information on how bad it is, in many of the studies I linked in the description. I hate this stuff, but that doesn't mean I can't also recognize biased research that happens to fit "my narrative". We must be aware of misleading science that fits "our position", if for no other reason than it is weak science that opponents will use as a lightning rod to base their pro-glyphosate position off of! My purpose for that statement was to actually take it FURTHER. That EVEN IF (pretending) that it has no adverse health conditions to humans, that it would STILL be bad because of ecosystem destructive practices being used with it. I hope this explanation helps curtail emotional responses to the effect that I'm Pro Glyphosate. This is not in response to any comment, as I am posting this before any comments have come yet.
Thank you for talking about this very important topic. I agree with every words you say. Unfortunately I live in a family that really enjoy chemicals, they probably drink a little every morning. When I speak about the dangers of using what they use, they look at me like I was the worst dummy on the planet. Pretty frustrating to be the black sheep in the family.
One of my earliest memories of our family farm is of my grandfather stirring 50 gallon barrels of chemicals with his arm. He was too mean for cancer to kill him, but it tried 4 times.
Hang in there. I know what it's like being the Black Sheep. The verbal abuse and mockery can be pretty intense. It has taken my neighbours 20 odd years to finally accept that grass won't affect pecan trees and that grasses doesn't rob water. The commercial orchards still till various times (about six different blades per watering, about every two months, to reform the watering channels and tree wells. They moved away from glyphosphate about 10 years ago, but they are still applying salt fertilizers. A pecan grown with no till is sweet and buttery. There is a slight metallic taste in the commercial pecans. No till has less insect pressure and by my calculations, I use about 10% of the amount of water. It's hard for large farms to have enough mulch for a no till system and they are forced to harvest when not all pecans are ripe.
Thank for your sensible discussion of roundup and gmo's. The combination of the two is harmful because it threatens biodiversity and increases control of one company over farmers world-wide. On their own, they can have their uses (probably not for a backyard gardeners).
Awesome glad to have you as part of the family! Also I'm just checking comments now and I think you posted this 30 seconds ago, so you get a quick reply LOL 😆
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy As a Urban Forestry major, trying to find ways to encourage local governments to implement food forests and community gardens. Is something I'm invested in, they provide so many services!
I'm trying to convince my in laws to stop using round up on their 4 acre lot and help them plant more than grass! This is such an important topic and I am happy to have a shorter video to send them to hopefully help with the education
Glyphosate is also used on soils that are being depleted, creating "dead dirt" that can't even grow native "weeds". The abuses from most chemical inputs has managed to ruin once productive land. Regenerative agriculture, agro-forestry, diversified crops are being introduced to improve soil health. What my personal issue with Bayer is the patents applied to certain crop seeds and then the glyphosate and seeds are trapped in a circular addiction. People are less and less healthy from poor soil management, fewer amounts of diversified food choices. I don't understand why I must eat food grown in chemicals when all sorts of foods exist outside commercial agriculture. I get to the point where I ask what's the point of growing food when I can't grow everything I need to stay alive. Rice, corn, soy, agriculture crops that are definitely not diversified.
The biggest way to change what is produced is to change what is consumed. When everyone is eating junk food, then the corn syrup demand is through the roof, prompting farmers to meet that demand and grow monocultures of corn. Similarly when people don't pay more for grass fed beef, and just buy the cheapest steak and burgers. Unfortunately for the few eco conscious consumers, our impact is minimal compared to the vast majority of everyone else who makes these choices to eat junk regularly. So we have 2 paths of victory here. 1. Wake up as many people was possible. 2. Grow our own food which we can control, and uy what we can't grow from growers like us. Both options have minimal short term impact on markets. For #1, we need to teach our children these things, because converting adults is like "teaching an old dog new tricks". It's unfortunate, but victory here will come slow. I suppose option 3 is to lobby government, and run for offices where we can drive change.
I chose to buy what meat I want from regenerative agriculture ranchers producers. Local suppliers and I get it delivered to my house. The taste, texture is so much better, particularly my favourite, sausages. Packed with meat, very little fat, and delicious. I bought necks, bones to make my own bone meal. I know those bones don't have chemicals. Coffee is from "free trade, organic" growers and actually is not much more expensive than the other ones. Tiny steps, but worth doing.
Hearing that Glyphosate is detected in human urine, blood, and maternal milk really cemented my choice to grow strictly organically on our farm. I just don't think that can be really good for us.
Exactly. The worst part is that none of us elected to have this inside us, but now it's everywhere. Also, once things get inside us, our bodies often concentrate it as it tries to deal with it. Kidneys are a good example, but also like how your body concentrates iodine in the thyroid. So often even if the whole body dose is small, the concentrated local dose to a small area of your body can be quite high.
That's because the organic farmer can do all he wants about not spraying, but then his non organic neighbour comes along and sprays uncontrollably and it gets drifted by wind and carried away by surface runoff during rains. One person being irresponsible leads to responsible people sharing the consequences.
Another great, well researched video! Thank you! Also, thank you for bringing up spot treatments for allergens. I feel terrible poisoning poison ivy, knowing it is a native plant, but I can’t risk my family’s exposure due to severe reactions. Also, since it spreads by runners, it was quickly spreading towards my food crops. I’m happy to hear that my wood chip layers will help to restore my soil. I truly hope the world wakes up soon. Thank you for all you do! 😊
I'm a major proponent of humans impacting nature as little as possible. But I'm also a pragmatist. I believe poison ivy is really good at keeping humans out of certain areas, so there is some benefit for its existence. But poison ivy creeping towards a food garden, in a heavily trafficked area? I have NO ISSUES with someone spot applying herbicide to get rid of it, and being conscious of contamination and trying to remediate it as much as possible. Mine here, I gear up, cover everything and physically dig it out by tracing every winding runner back to the host plant. It has been very effective. I have however got poison ivy very seriously once (needed steroid cream) and I don't ever want to experience that again. If it pops up and I can pull it easily I will. Immediate soap rinse works well, have to get it within 20 mins. But my parents have it in their property and they fit really bad reactions, are older, and I said they should carefully spot apply herbicide to get rid of it. As with all things, a balanced pragmatic approach is often best. Combine that with responsibility for the choices and remedial actions afterwards, and I believe that is true stewardship.
I admire how balanced and thorough you are on this subject. The crazy thing about our ecosystems is all the off-target triggers to every inception and reaction within it. Even remediation efforts, too much promotion of flavobacterium could off-set fish populations etc. It really is about having a conscious awareness and having intentions that are harmonious and considerate to the web of life. All the glyphosate use where i grew up was overshadowed by TCE contamination (which was covered up for decades by big industrial money, local government and regional environmental departments) Unfortunately for that community, TCE would require a genetically modified methanotroph bacteria able to enact methanotrophic oxidization in the presence of copper ions which usually suppresses the gene that would allow the bacteria to slowly break it down. Now an aerospace/military industrial corporation owns the land. They showed some colorful pictures on how they are tilling the soil above the "superfund site" (contaminated) lagoon surrounded by a bunch of body armor-wearing sheriff deputies. My heart hurts for nature and i myself have paid the price of thyroid cancer for other's ignorant and selfish decisions. Hope humanity figures some stuff out soon.
Great video! I really felt like time stood still while listening to you speak! Joking aside, I am relieved to hear that glyphosate in the soil can be broken down in a reasonable amount of time.
When we took over the farm we switched to organic sod production dew to the town mandating it. We where going to switch anyway. but having to do the hole farm all at once nothing grew for 2 years and only started to come around 4 years in
This is the main problem converting farmers to regen practices. It's a snowball effect of good health... like going to the gym and eating healthy, whereas conventional ag (fertilizers and roundup) is like taking some new steroids that don't even require working out to maximize.
Thank you for the video. Here in the UK weedkiller is too freely available to buy. It's sold in big box stores, supermarkets, garden centres and even RHS Garden Gift shops! I was so upset last year when I found out my allotment neighbour sprayed all the nettles on their plot with herbicides. It killed a climbing rose which I was training across the fence dividing our plots. The UK are also about to approve the use of neonicotinoids on sugar beet seeds. (A well known bee killing pesticide) The British government has gone directly against the advice of its own scientific advisors with potentially devastating consequences for bees and other vital pollinators.
Know when to fight if they get you to give up they win. Rally in the small wins and learn from your losses. Jest lost a fight with the town the farm is in. Dew to a troll that sed in the public discussion (I don't know why there is even a farm up here I get my food from the grocery store) this is what you will be fighting. So stay strong and true in facts and you will win eventually
I didn't realise we were on the brink of neonicotinoids 'again.' I live in the middle of rural countryside, mainly animal farming with woodlands. The first piece of land used for actual plant crops are 10 miles away from our garden - but the general use of neonicotinoids at that distance was still enough to kill off all our local bee populations (honey, bumble and solitary). Our solitary bees finally started to begin to recover last year. Bumble bees started to make comeback as soon as the ban was enforced, but we have lost more than half the local species. Honeybees continue to do badly. They are constantly reintroduced but fade away after a month or so. Something is continuing to weaken them. I can't imagine what the reintroduction of neonicotinoids will do to the countryside when pollinator populations are still so vulnerable. My husband is usually not very attentive to anything outside his garage. But even he noticed that all the wildlife we used to enjoy here 20 years ago suddenly disappeared. Once the pollinators and other insects were killed off, the effect just kept going up the food chain, decimating bird populations, small mammals, and wiping out top predators.
Excellent video. 100% agree with the thoughtful and nuanced take on both Glyphosate and GMOs. For me and my garden (frustratingly not the case with my upwind neighbor) Glyphosate is an absolute no go. I am truly astonished by the amount of insect and animal life that has literally soared as my chemical free permaculture food forest has grown. I personally could not morally kill all that bounty via Glyphosate or other pesticides. I am not growing large scale farm crops so for me, at my scale, I just don't think it moral.
Glad to know my off the cuff advice of wood chips and reinoculation was accurate. The only thing thing you didn't list that I suggested was frequent watering the affected area for a week to dissolve any concentrated spots because I know its a salt and assumed that would help.
And that advice is rock solid, it's what Geoff Lawton does for dealing with salts present in deserts and high clay environments where they can build up over millenia. The only caution is to make sure you know where any runoff goes, because contaminating watersheds is not ideal. What would be ideal is running into a remedial pond with reeds, etc.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Great point. This situation was a small bush with sunken soil in a half courtyard which likely caused it to accumulate the stuff when they sprayed the bricks.
Thank you so, so much for this video. I was sick with worry about ever planting anything in our lawn that the previous owner sprayed with roundup every year. So glad wood chips will help as I have many piles I can put on to heal it. Big, huge phew!!
Personal story. Bought a house + 800m2 of garden 4 years ago. So much r-up was used the ground was bare/moss. First summer, woodchipped everywhere, because bushes were overgrown anyway, so i woodchipped lots of prunings. First fall (very mild weather here) sowed a mixes grass (microclover and probably variety of raygrass). Was beautiful. I guess the r-up remnants saved us from ’weeds’ ?! Not after a drought summer, everything died even not coming back from,roots. Now tried resowing grass mix, but weeds are ther full force ! This is not scientific but i observe that once the remnant of the herbicide is gone, nature is trying real hard to come back with dormant weed seeds (can’t all have come from wind and birds, i don’t think). I’m rethinking my ’obsession’ with grass, but i’ll still want 20 to 40 m2 of something mowed down for the kid to play on. Oh and for my beach towel to read books in the shade ;)
Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos. I’m in the early stages of landscaping my Ontario property (zone 4) and this is helpful. Some of your videos like this have references or reading bits at the bottom. It may be just me, but if I pause to read them, they are covered by the bar and icons. If they were across the top, it would really help. Thanks!
Thanks, it's hard sometimes though because then it goes right across my face. I can't try to keep them off the very very bottom of the screen, thanks for the feedback 😀
Great video. Previous owner of my house used railroad ties in the yard. Guessing 20+ years ago. 2 years ago I removed them. How long until it would be safe to grow food in the areas they were at?
If you’re here to find out what to do to your homestead soil, after glyphosate use, here: 9:38 “So if you’re worried about G****ate in your soil, a bunch of things you can do; things you can do is …” 1 minute of suggestions.
Thank you for speaking about Round Up. I sprayed it down into the stems of hundred dandelions spraying every one on my residential front yard. I got breast cancer in my right side. I am right handed. Mother died at 58 yrs old from Non Hodgkins Lymphoma. She used it for her Garden.
I'm very sorry to hear that - Awful! My aunt died at 53 (just over a month ago), and another aunt & uncle are both going through chemo at the moment. But, none of these people ever sprayed glyphosate in their lives. Alcohol abuse was the killer of my aunt (she didn't smoke). The dangers of alcohol (including cancer) are well known, yet I can purchase alcohol from about 10 different stores within a 5-minute walk from my house. You can weigh up things like occasional glyphosate use vs having an automatic air freshener in the home, breathing the air in city traffic, second-hand smoke etc. My point is that cancer happens (...and it's tragic), but I think the glyphosate card is called with little real evidence that this was certainly the cause. I have a neighbour that will even comment on my roundup use, with a cigarette in his hand (lol). Now, I'm not gonna put glyphosate on my breakfast cereal, but when used responsibly and in moderation, I don't really see it as being any worse than many other aspects of life (people will spray air fresheners into a small, enclosed bathroom, regularly, and not give it a second thought). As I piggybacked off your post, I think it is respectful to end by once again saying that I'm very sorry to learn about your battles with cancer. Watching my family deal with it now, I appreciate just how terrible it is (both physically and emotionally).
Great video. Thank you very much! The info on soil additives was extremely helpful for me. I'm battling those insidious invasive trees Ailanthus altissima AKA Tree of Heaven at both of my properties. They're one of those that sends out growth signals anytime the plant is damged so chemical is about the only choice unless you have time to be constantly taking care of new growth if you use chop methods. They're taking over the roadsides in some places in our area and the state isn't doing anything to help control them. The state would no doubt just send tanker sprayers and kill everything in sight. Admittedly, a two edged sword. I did a little research for ailanthus control chemicals. Got recommendations for glyphosate from many places and triclopyr (from the forest service of all places). A little more research found that triclopyr is more persistent in the soil than glyphosate which was observed to dissipate very rapidly in comparison so I chose to use it. Recommended methods apply it only to the ailanthus plants themselves. Applying on calm days helps prevent inadvertent overspray. I wait at least a full season after eradicating a stand to plant anything else. I'll now also take your advice on additives to help the soil with the glyphosate disposal.
I had never heard of the Tree of Heaven so looked it up. It's possible I have young sprout growing in my yard but will now have to wait till spring to see the leaves. On a channel called The Woodland Steward I learned that if you cut a mature tree it just suckers from the roots. Not sure if you watched that particular video. They also used triclopyr but did not spray. Put it on a brush and brushed on the bark of the young saplings while scraping the bark at the same time. Wonder if that works better and does not impact the soil as much as spraying could?
@@sbffsbrarbrr Good luck. There are lookalikes for ToH, one of them being a variety of our native Sumac. I'm in VA. From a distance it can also resemble another invasive that isn't quite so aggressive, the admittedly beautiful Mimosa. I keep one of them as an ornamental but quickly dispatch any upstarts. Sorry I am not even close to knowledgeable enough to even think of answering your question on Triclopyr. It might be addressed in some deeper scholarly articles on pesticides.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you. ToH is my second foe. First was Japanese honeysuckle, which I love the scent of but wanted to replace with native Trumpet Vine and Fox Grape. Trumpet vines have done OK. The sample Fox Grapes not so much but probably because it's on my secondary property where I don't spend as much time and effort.
Great observation about bots! It's clear these are agents of disruption up for hire. Doesn't take a genius to understand who commissions them. The same dynamic exists in other fields too. Tells us all we need to know about their mindsets. The thing about stressors in the body is that we can only take so much of them before the system is overwhelmed. We can see that now in current elevated mortality rates.
From what I've read, as much as 95% of GMO research is not to fight crop-damaging organisms but to create organisms that can be copyrighted. As with anything, follow the money. I am more concerned that just about everywhere we are finding microplastics in our soil - ALL our soil.
Just another example of how bizarre late-stage capitalism is. Using important world saving tech to further profits for people who already have 4 houses and 3 private jets.
Well said, I don't think its a problem my grandma uses round up on her driveway cracks but I don't think it should be a blanket solution to industrial farming
As with everything, the tools aren't evil but they can be used to do evil things. Equally true that we can use all the tools we have to build a better world.
I'm getting a comment in early to thank you for this video. If the comments are off at least you will know I listened. Getting all the info available about roundups is important to me. What is it you say molasses in the soil killing or benefiting bacteria?
Bacteria eats sugar, and molasses stays in the soil a little longer than table sugar, so it's a good way to feed bacteria and get it to multiply for a day or so. It doesn't last long, but it expands the bacterial colonies present.
On a 2 acre lot with my lady for the past several months. We've been talking about starting a small farm/food forest for ourselves in the spring. The topics you're touching here are a huge concern of ours, just because we have no idea what the prior home owner/neighbors have used. Im trying to figure out how to check my soil before the spring so i can get to planting once the snow melts!
Often universities and colleges will have soil testing programs. Also if you are in the states you can check your extension office. If in Canada, you can check with your forestry or conservation authority for soil testing programs. We had ours tested by University of Guelph in Ontario.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy awesome! We're actually in Ontario as well! Guelph is about an hour away from where we sit. Any idea as to how long the whole process can take? Also, is it a bad idea to have testing done through Both the university, as well as through the local authorities? Or do you feel one of them should suffice?
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you very much! I appreciate the time you took to reply, as well as the recommendations! Im hoping this spring i can put in some Work lol! I have to establish everything from scratch here, and it's more space than I've ever worked with hahaha! Your videos have been a treasure trove of knowledge, and i'm super greatful to have ran into your page! All the best now and always!
I'm not really worried about peak food. We already know that we have the technology to grow significantly more food on the land we have with things like permaculture and greenhouses. It might take more labour or automation, but currently only a tiny fraction of the population works in agriculture. If we need to produce more, we will simply end up using more intensive techniques with higher yields.
Another great point. And often small changes to your microbiome manifest as chronic ailments, not acute. It then becomes hard to attribute the changes to a specific factor.
Unreal. In the middle of watching your video, I received a long ad for promoting the use of glyphosate. I can send you a screenshot if you are interested.
Glyphosate is the best way to kill autumn olive which is highly invasive but don't spray the leaves, make a small cut or two at the base and squirt a little bit on the cuts in the bark. It works!
And there's me struggling to grow a few Autumn Olives in my garden! Evidently, they don't like Scotland, sulk for a year after planting, and if they don't die in the first winter, they plod along at such a slow rate of growth.
Our arborist used it to kill the Tree of Heaven after cutting it down. I replaced it with a couple of native trees. I see that a big win for local biodiversity.
Thank you for this vid. If you were going to move, would you choose a 1 acre plot in a glyphosate free region or a 20 acre plot in a region that uses tons of glyphosate? This is a decision I'm currently struggling with.
Does the 20 acre plot property have a well? If so I'd definitely choose the 1 acre plot so you don't get harmful chemicals in your drinking water. Also if the area is windy, will the glyphosate be carried on the wind to your plot?
That's such a tough question. If the 20 acre plot was able to be swaled at the border to the glyphosate property, then I would probably pick that. I would line that birder with swales and Reed ponds to accumulate and then remediate any surface runoff, and plant a large hedgerow to block wind contamination. Then I would plant out the farthest side. But at the same time, 1 acre is a lot of land if it's in a way where most of it can be planted out. 1 acre of dense planting can easily support a family. Its a real toss up.
Thank you for another balanced discussion of an important issue, I'm going to keep coming back to it as I'm interested to see if the bots start up in the comments 😂
I know what you mean when mention bots about glyp. I’ve made some comments on Reddit about it and I was downvoted to oblivion and multiple replies extolling it’s virtue. I was actually surprised how fast they came.
And it's funny, you would think they would time it better. I've had posts on reddit that hit -60 votes in literally 10 seconds. This on a 3 paragraph cited response that would take at least 2 minutes to read.
My son has severe peanut allergies, and I've done so much digging into trying to figure out why all these allergies are popping up. It's really hard for research to pin down the cause. It's so hard for chronic things like this.
Yeah, but what about it’s neuro-disruption in pollinators? I decided to not plant plants that attract bees in those areas because of this problem. Colony collapse is real.
Unfortunately, despite having the ingenuity to develop any amount of useful tools, we humans consistently show that we can be completely irresponsible with them as well. Glyphosate is simply one such tool, right up there with Neonicotinoids and nuclear power. Glyphosate is sold cheaply in large cans to the public, to use on whatever they wish, without supervision or the training required of us trade gardeners. Along with people who act responsibly with chemicals, there are the totally negligent - the ones who do not dilute it properly, who use it in all the wrong places (knowingly and unknowingly), and who will just pour the excess down their drains when they've finished spraying a little path in their tiny back garden. Some of my plants/trees have been affected and killed by 'drift' from a former farmer neighbour who either didn't know that it is illegal to spray chemicals in winds exceeding 5 knots or didn't care. Not so long ago, my other landowner neighbour got his gamekeeper to spray a hunter's path alongside a stream that is the border between our properties. This had the effect of not only killing the plants in the spray zone there and then, it had a curious effect on wild flower bulbs the following Spring. (I was furious to see this area treated so, especially so recklessly close to a stream, so I have been maintaining that hunter's path free of charge ever since - just to ensure that Glyphosate is never used there again). Personally, I will never use Glyphosate. I won't say I've never been tempted. I have a large garden and quarter of an acre of it has a bramble problem. It takes 5 months every year to physically remove them as the ground is very rocky, this making complete removal of a rootstock an event almost worth celebrating. Absolute pain. But, as a former professional gardener who has seen a string of former colleagues die at the young age of 50 from cancer, I know that it is a dangerous chemical that deserves the public suspicion it has begun to earn. I'm certain that it's not just killing the insect world, it's killing us too - and all in the name of making big money.
The worst part about this that one or two irresponsible humans is all it takes, especially for some of those techs (I'm thinking nuclear missiles especially).
Remember that a farmer needs to make a profit to feed their family. They do care about the earth but some need help to heal the soil and make a profit. Gabe Brown and the like.?.....?
People really need to learn more about not only glyphosate, but how several chemicals work. Also it's important to take a look at past examples of issues with chemicals that in some cases turned out to be an unintentional contaminant. Believe it or not there have been an incredible amount of studies, and many of them not paid for by people selling roundup or selling an alternative that is usually more harmful to the environment. Every tool has a use, every tool can be misused to cause harm. People "picking a side" generally don't know what they are talking about.
Watch Dr Stephanie Seneff speaking on glyphosate to truly understand the devastating effects that glyphosate has on human health. She's the most knowledgeable person on this topic that I know of.
I want to pin a comment here, something I wish I was more clear in the video. I am NOT saying there is no impact for roundup ingestion when I mention the "80% of Americans have glyphosate in their urine" study. There is a TON of information on how bad it is, in many of the studies I linked in the description. I hate this stuff, but that doesn't mean I can't also recognize biased research that happens to fit "my narrative". We must be aware of misleading science that fits "our position", if for no other reason than it is weak science that opponents will use as a lightning rod to base their pro-glyphosate position off of!
My purpose for that statement was to actually take it FURTHER. That EVEN IF (pretending) that it has no adverse health conditions to humans, that it would STILL be bad because of ecosystem destructive practices being used with it. I hope this explanation helps curtail emotional responses to the effect that I'm Pro Glyphosate.
This is not in response to any comment, as I am posting this before any comments have come yet.
Thank you for talking about this very important topic. I agree with every words you say. Unfortunately I live in a family that really enjoy chemicals, they probably drink a little every morning. When I speak about the dangers of using what they use, they look at me like I was the worst dummy on the planet. Pretty frustrating to be the black sheep in the family.
When all the lemmings are running towards the edge of the cliff, the one running the other way looks crazy 🤪
One of my earliest memories of our family farm is of my grandfather stirring 50 gallon barrels of chemicals with his arm. He was too mean for cancer to kill him, but it tried 4 times.
Hang in there. I know what it's like being the Black Sheep. The verbal abuse and mockery can be pretty intense. It has taken my neighbours 20 odd years to finally accept that grass won't affect pecan trees and that grasses doesn't rob water. The commercial orchards still till various times (about six different blades per watering, about every two months, to reform the watering channels and tree wells. They moved away from glyphosphate about 10 years ago, but they are still applying salt fertilizers. A pecan grown with no till is sweet and buttery. There is a slight metallic taste in the commercial pecans. No till has less insect pressure and by my calculations, I use about 10% of the amount of water. It's hard for large farms to have enough mulch for a no till system and they are forced to harvest when not all pecans are ripe.
Thank for your sensible discussion of roundup and gmo's. The combination of the two is harmful because it threatens biodiversity and increases control of one company over farmers world-wide. On their own, they can have their uses (probably not for a backyard gardeners).
I just discovered your channel! I have binged so many of your videos, very heartening!
Awesome glad to have you as part of the family! Also I'm just checking comments now and I think you posted this 30 seconds ago, so you get a quick reply LOL 😆
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy As a Urban Forestry major, trying to find ways to encourage local governments to implement food forests and community gardens. Is something I'm invested in, they provide so many services!
Absolutely 💯. Have you watched this one yet? th-cam.com/video/aC2u4g8_xYQ/w-d-xo.html
These community food forests are incredible.
I'm trying to convince my in laws to stop using round up on their 4 acre lot and help them plant more than grass! This is such an important topic and I am happy to have a shorter video to send them to hopefully help with the education
Show them beautiful ’path only’ mowing patterns with prairie flowers in ’beds’ :)
Glyphosate is also used on soils that are being depleted, creating "dead dirt" that can't even grow native "weeds". The abuses from most chemical inputs has managed to ruin once productive land.
Regenerative agriculture, agro-forestry, diversified crops are being introduced to improve soil health.
What my personal issue with Bayer is the patents applied to certain crop seeds and then the glyphosate and seeds are trapped in a circular addiction.
People are less and less healthy from poor soil management, fewer amounts of diversified food choices. I don't understand why I must eat food grown in chemicals when all sorts of foods exist outside commercial agriculture.
I get to the point where I ask what's the point of growing food when I can't grow everything I need to stay alive. Rice, corn, soy, agriculture crops that are definitely not diversified.
The biggest way to change what is produced is to change what is consumed. When everyone is eating junk food, then the corn syrup demand is through the roof, prompting farmers to meet that demand and grow monocultures of corn. Similarly when people don't pay more for grass fed beef, and just buy the cheapest steak and burgers.
Unfortunately for the few eco conscious consumers, our impact is minimal compared to the vast majority of everyone else who makes these choices to eat junk regularly.
So we have 2 paths of victory here. 1. Wake up as many people was possible. 2. Grow our own food which we can control, and uy what we can't grow from growers like us.
Both options have minimal short term impact on markets. For #1, we need to teach our children these things, because converting adults is like "teaching an old dog new tricks". It's unfortunate, but victory here will come slow.
I suppose option 3 is to lobby government, and run for offices where we can drive change.
I chose to buy what meat I want from regenerative agriculture ranchers producers. Local suppliers and I get it delivered to my house.
The taste, texture is so much better, particularly my favourite, sausages. Packed with meat, very little fat, and delicious.
I bought necks, bones to make my own bone meal. I know those bones don't have chemicals.
Coffee is from "free trade, organic" growers and actually is not much more expensive than the other ones. Tiny steps, but worth doing.
Hearing that Glyphosate is detected in human urine, blood, and maternal milk really cemented my choice to grow strictly organically on our farm. I just don't think that can be really good for us.
Exactly. The worst part is that none of us elected to have this inside us, but now it's everywhere. Also, once things get inside us, our bodies often concentrate it as it tries to deal with it. Kidneys are a good example, but also like how your body concentrates iodine in the thyroid. So often even if the whole body dose is small, the concentrated local dose to a small area of your body can be quite high.
Glyphosate has even been regularly found in the breast milk of women who only eat organic.
It also damages natural flora of the gut as it affects the mechanism of bacterial reproduction.
That's because the organic farmer can do all he wants about not spraying, but then his non organic neighbour comes along and sprays uncontrollably and it gets drifted by wind and carried away by surface runoff during rains.
One person being irresponsible leads to responsible people sharing the consequences.
@@MushroomMagpie I believe it, but I also believe in mitigating risk.
Another great, well researched video! Thank you!
Also, thank you for bringing up spot treatments for allergens. I feel terrible poisoning poison ivy, knowing it is a native plant, but I can’t risk my family’s exposure due to severe reactions. Also, since it spreads by runners, it was quickly spreading towards my food crops. I’m happy to hear that my wood chip layers will help to restore my soil.
I truly hope the world wakes up soon. Thank you for all you do! 😊
I'm a major proponent of humans impacting nature as little as possible. But I'm also a pragmatist. I believe poison ivy is really good at keeping humans out of certain areas, so there is some benefit for its existence. But poison ivy creeping towards a food garden, in a heavily trafficked area? I have NO ISSUES with someone spot applying herbicide to get rid of it, and being conscious of contamination and trying to remediate it as much as possible.
Mine here, I gear up, cover everything and physically dig it out by tracing every winding runner back to the host plant. It has been very effective. I have however got poison ivy very seriously once (needed steroid cream) and I don't ever want to experience that again. If it pops up and I can pull it easily I will. Immediate soap rinse works well, have to get it within 20 mins. But my parents have it in their property and they fit really bad reactions, are older, and I said they should carefully spot apply herbicide to get rid of it.
As with all things, a balanced pragmatic approach is often best. Combine that with responsibility for the choices and remedial actions afterwards, and I believe that is true stewardship.
After getting tagged by it twice in the past 3 years, I now wage a holy war of genocide against poison ivy. Manual eradication, not spraying.
I admire how balanced and thorough you are on this subject. The crazy thing about our ecosystems is all the off-target triggers to every inception and reaction within it. Even remediation efforts, too much promotion of flavobacterium could off-set fish populations etc. It really is about having a conscious awareness and having intentions that are harmonious and considerate to the web of life. All the glyphosate use where i grew up was overshadowed by TCE contamination (which was covered up for decades by big industrial money, local government and regional environmental departments) Unfortunately for that community, TCE would require a genetically modified methanotroph bacteria able to enact methanotrophic oxidization in the presence of copper ions which usually suppresses the gene that would allow the bacteria to slowly break it down. Now an aerospace/military industrial corporation owns the land. They showed some colorful pictures on how they are tilling the soil above the "superfund site" (contaminated) lagoon surrounded by a bunch of body armor-wearing sheriff deputies. My heart hurts for nature and i myself have paid the price of thyroid cancer for other's ignorant and selfish decisions. Hope humanity figures some stuff out soon.
Wow, so alarming!
You make some really good points, at lot of which I wasn't aware of previously. Thanks for making this video for us.
Thanks as always Mallory 😀. I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but hopefully some new people find it also.
Great video! I really felt like time stood still while listening to you speak! Joking aside, I am relieved to hear that glyphosate in the soil can be broken down in a reasonable amount of time.
When we took over the farm we switched to organic sod production dew to the town mandating it. We where going to switch anyway. but having to do the hole farm all at once nothing grew for 2 years and only started to come around 4 years in
This is the main problem converting farmers to regen practices. It's a snowball effect of good health... like going to the gym and eating healthy, whereas conventional ag (fertilizers and roundup) is like taking some new steroids that don't even require working out to maximize.
Thank you for the video. Here in the UK weedkiller is too freely available to buy. It's sold in big box stores, supermarkets, garden centres and even RHS Garden Gift shops! I was so upset last year when I found out my allotment neighbour sprayed all the nettles on their plot with herbicides. It killed a climbing rose which I was training across the fence dividing our plots. The UK are also about to approve the use of neonicotinoids on sugar beet seeds. (A well known bee killing pesticide) The British government has gone directly against the advice of its own scientific advisors with potentially devastating consequences for bees and other vital pollinators.
Know when to fight if they get you to give up they win. Rally in the small wins and learn from your losses. Jest lost a fight with the town the farm is in. Dew to a troll that sed in the public discussion (I don't know why there is even a farm up here I get my food from the grocery store) this is what you will be fighting. So stay strong and true in facts and you will win eventually
Humans spraying environmentally damaging chemicals to destroy healthy food (nettles) describes this bizarre timeline we find ourselves in perfectly.
And biggest thing, teach your children. The biggest impact we can have is to determine what the next wave of adults prioritizes and values.
I didn't realise we were on the brink of neonicotinoids 'again.' I live in the middle of rural countryside, mainly animal farming with woodlands.
The first piece of land used for actual plant crops are 10 miles away from our garden - but the general use of neonicotinoids at that distance was still enough to kill off all our local bee populations (honey, bumble and solitary).
Our solitary bees finally started to begin to recover last year.
Bumble bees started to make comeback as soon as the ban was enforced, but we have lost more than half the local species.
Honeybees continue to do badly. They are constantly reintroduced but fade away after a month or so. Something is continuing to weaken them.
I can't imagine what the reintroduction of neonicotinoids will do to the countryside when pollinator populations are still so vulnerable.
My husband is usually not very attentive to anything outside his garage. But even he noticed that all the wildlife we used to enjoy here 20 years ago suddenly disappeared. Once the pollinators and other insects were killed off, the effect just kept going up the food chain, decimating bird populations, small mammals, and wiping out top predators.
That's infuriating
Excellent video. 100% agree with the thoughtful and nuanced take on both Glyphosate and GMOs. For me and my garden (frustratingly not the case with my upwind neighbor) Glyphosate is an absolute no go.
I am truly astonished by the amount of insect and animal life that has literally soared as my chemical free permaculture food forest has grown. I personally could not morally kill all that bounty via Glyphosate or other pesticides. I am not growing large scale farm crops so for me, at my scale, I just don't think it moral.
Lovely!
I really appreciate how much work you put into your research
🍻 Next video (on the economy and late stage capitalism) is already 50 citations!!!
Glad to know my off the cuff advice of wood chips and reinoculation was accurate. The only thing thing you didn't list that I suggested was frequent watering the affected area for a week to dissolve any concentrated spots because I know its a salt and assumed that would help.
And that advice is rock solid, it's what Geoff Lawton does for dealing with salts present in deserts and high clay environments where they can build up over millenia. The only caution is to make sure you know where any runoff goes, because contaminating watersheds is not ideal. What would be ideal is running into a remedial pond with reeds, etc.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Great point. This situation was a small bush with sunken soil in a half courtyard which likely caused it to accumulate the stuff when they sprayed the bricks.
On an unrelated note, I guess the spelling of glyphosate is a Mandela effect for me. I could have sworn it was glyphosphate
Thank you so, so much for this video. I was sick with worry about ever planting anything in our lawn that the previous owner sprayed with roundup every year. So glad wood chips will help as I have many piles I can put on to heal it. Big, huge phew!!
Good video. It’s nice to see some sanity when it comes to G.
Personal story. Bought a house + 800m2 of garden 4 years ago. So much r-up was used the ground was bare/moss. First summer, woodchipped everywhere, because bushes were overgrown anyway, so i woodchipped lots of prunings. First fall (very mild weather here) sowed a mixes grass (microclover and probably variety of raygrass). Was beautiful.
I guess the r-up remnants saved us from ’weeds’ ?!
Not after a drought summer, everything died even not coming back from,roots. Now tried resowing grass mix, but weeds are ther full force !
This is not scientific but i observe that once the remnant of the herbicide is gone, nature is trying real hard to come back with dormant weed seeds (can’t all have come from wind and birds, i don’t think).
I’m rethinking my ’obsession’ with grass, but i’ll still want 20 to 40 m2 of something mowed down for the kid to play on. Oh and for my beach towel to read books in the shade ;)
Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos. I’m in the early stages of landscaping my Ontario property (zone 4) and this is helpful. Some of your videos like this have references or reading bits at the bottom. It may be just me, but if I pause to read them, they are covered by the bar and icons. If they were across the top, it would really help. Thanks!
Thanks, it's hard sometimes though because then it goes right across my face. I can't try to keep them off the very very bottom of the screen, thanks for the feedback 😀
Awesome video! It seems like I shouldn't have too much to worry about in my situation. Thanks K, you the man.
Great video. Previous owner of my house used railroad ties in the yard. Guessing 20+ years ago. 2 years ago I removed them. How long until it would be safe to grow food in the areas they were at?
Probably a few hundred years or more. They will be fine growing trees, just don't put gardens there.
If you’re here to find out what to do to your homestead soil, after glyphosate use, here:
9:38 “So if you’re worried about G****ate in your soil, a bunch of things you can do; things you can do is …”
1 minute of suggestions.
Thank you for speaking about Round Up. I sprayed it down into the stems of hundred dandelions spraying every one on my residential front yard. I got breast cancer in my right side. I am right handed.
Mother died at 58 yrs old from Non Hodgkins Lymphoma. She used it for her Garden.
Wow, I'm sorry to hear about that (both things). Terrible.
I'm very sorry to hear that - Awful!
My aunt died at 53 (just over a month ago), and another aunt & uncle are both going through chemo at the moment. But, none of these people ever sprayed glyphosate in their lives.
Alcohol abuse was the killer of my aunt (she didn't smoke). The dangers of alcohol (including cancer) are well known, yet I can purchase alcohol from about 10 different stores within a 5-minute walk from my house. You can weigh up things like occasional glyphosate use vs having an automatic air freshener in the home, breathing the air in city traffic, second-hand smoke etc.
My point is that cancer happens (...and it's tragic), but I think the glyphosate card is called with little real evidence that this was certainly the cause. I have a neighbour that will even comment on my roundup use, with a cigarette in his hand (lol).
Now, I'm not gonna put glyphosate on my breakfast cereal, but when used responsibly and in moderation, I don't really see it as being any worse than many other aspects of life (people will spray air fresheners into a small, enclosed bathroom, regularly, and not give it a second thought).
As I piggybacked off your post, I think it is respectful to end by once again saying that I'm very sorry to learn about your battles with cancer. Watching my family deal with it now, I appreciate just how terrible it is (both physically and emotionally).
Great video. Thank you very much! The info on soil additives was extremely helpful for me. I'm battling those insidious invasive trees Ailanthus altissima AKA Tree of Heaven at both of my properties.
They're one of those that sends out growth signals anytime the plant is damged so chemical is about the only choice unless you have time to be constantly taking care of new growth if you use chop methods. They're taking over the roadsides in some places in our area and the state isn't doing anything to help control them. The state would no doubt just send tanker sprayers and kill everything in sight. Admittedly, a two edged sword.
I did a little research for ailanthus control chemicals. Got recommendations for glyphosate from many places and triclopyr (from the forest service of all places). A little more research found that triclopyr is more persistent in the soil than glyphosate which was observed to dissipate very rapidly in comparison so I chose to use it. Recommended methods apply it only to the ailanthus plants themselves. Applying on calm days helps prevent inadvertent overspray. I wait at least a full season after eradicating a stand to plant anything else. I'll now also take your advice on additives to help the soil with the glyphosate disposal.
This is what environmental stewardship looks like. I wish we could clone you.
I had never heard of the Tree of Heaven so looked it up. It's possible I have young sprout growing in my yard but will now have to wait till spring to see the leaves. On a channel called The Woodland Steward I learned that if you cut a mature tree it just suckers from the roots. Not sure if you watched that particular video. They also used triclopyr but did not spray. Put it on a brush and brushed on the bark of the young saplings while scraping the bark at the same time. Wonder if that works better and does not impact the soil as much as spraying could?
@@sbffsbrarbrr Good luck. There are lookalikes for ToH, one of them being a variety of our native Sumac. I'm in VA. From a distance it can also resemble another invasive that isn't quite so aggressive, the admittedly beautiful Mimosa. I keep one of them as an ornamental but quickly dispatch any upstarts.
Sorry I am not even close to knowledgeable enough to even think of answering your question on Triclopyr. It might be addressed in some deeper scholarly articles on pesticides.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you. ToH is my second foe. First was Japanese honeysuckle, which I love the scent of but wanted to replace with native Trumpet Vine and Fox Grape. Trumpet vines have done OK. The sample Fox Grapes not so much but probably because it's on my secondary property where I don't spend as much time and effort.
Great observation about bots! It's clear these are agents of disruption up for hire. Doesn't take a genius to understand who commissions them. The same dynamic exists in other fields too. Tells us all we need to know about their mindsets.
The thing about stressors in the body is that we can only take so much of them before the system is overwhelmed. We can see that now in current elevated mortality rates.
From what I've read, as much as 95% of GMO research is not to fight crop-damaging organisms but to create organisms that can be copyrighted. As with anything, follow the money. I am more concerned that just about everywhere we are finding microplastics in our soil - ALL our soil.
Just another example of how bizarre late-stage capitalism is. Using important world saving tech to further profits for people who already have 4 houses and 3 private jets.
LOL It's still not enough, I tell you!
I can't remember: Have you had your food-growing soil tested for contaminants?
I did when I first started, but not since.
Well said, I don't think its a problem my grandma uses round up on her driveway cracks but I don't think it should be a blanket solution to industrial farming
This sounds like you have taken a very logical viewpoint on roundup and GMOs. They are tools, but a foundation to build our society upon
As with everything, the tools aren't evil but they can be used to do evil things.
Equally true that we can use all the tools we have to build a better world.
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I'm getting a comment in early to thank you for this video. If the comments are off at least you will know I listened. Getting all the info available about roundups is important to me. What is it you say molasses in the soil killing or benefiting bacteria?
Molasses enhances soil biology.
Molasses is an easy bacterial food..
Bacteria eats sugar, and molasses stays in the soil a little longer than table sugar, so it's a good way to feed bacteria and get it to multiply for a day or so. It doesn't last long, but it expands the bacterial colonies present.
On a 2 acre lot with my lady for the past several months.
We've been talking about starting a small farm/food forest for ourselves in the spring.
The topics you're touching here are a huge concern of ours, just because we have no idea what the prior home owner/neighbors have used.
Im trying to figure out how to check my soil before the spring so i can get to planting once the snow melts!
Often universities and colleges will have soil testing programs. Also if you are in the states you can check your extension office. If in Canada, you can check with your forestry or conservation authority for soil testing programs.
We had ours tested by University of Guelph in Ontario.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy awesome! We're actually in Ontario as well! Guelph is about an hour away from where we sit.
Any idea as to how long the whole process can take?
Also, is it a bad idea to have testing done through Both the university, as well as through the local authorities?
Or do you feel one of them should suffice?
One of them will suffice. My tests took about a month, but I suppose it depends on how fast they can process them.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy Thank you very much! I appreciate the time you took to reply, as well as the recommendations!
Im hoping this spring i can put in some Work lol! I have to establish everything from scratch here, and it's more space than I've ever worked with hahaha!
Your videos have been a treasure trove of knowledge, and i'm super greatful to have ran into your page! All the best now and always!
thank you for the info
I'm not really worried about peak food. We already know that we have the technology to grow significantly more food on the land we have with things like permaculture and greenhouses. It might take more labour or automation, but currently only a tiny fraction of the population works in agriculture. If we need to produce more, we will simply end up using more intensive techniques with higher yields.
That's with today's soils though. Stanford estimates we may only have 50 years of topsoil remaining.
What do you think about the possibility that beneficial bacteria could also remove the glyphosate from our bodies as you say that it does in soil?
I believe that's the actual removal mechanism. Same one too, flavobacterium
Even if it doesn't hurt your body. I think it likely does affect your microbiome. So, yeah I completely agree. Thanks.
Another great point. And often small changes to your microbiome manifest as chronic ailments, not acute. It then becomes hard to attribute the changes to a specific factor.
Theres some railroad tracks near my house and you can see how whatever they spray is leeching into forest.
Unreal. In the middle of watching your video, I received a long ad for promoting the use of glyphosate. I can send you a screenshot if you are interested.
Hahah unbelievable. They are watching us!
ROFL that's crazy hahha
Glyphosate is the best way to kill autumn olive which is highly invasive but don't spray the leaves, make a small cut or two at the base and squirt a little bit on the cuts in the bark. It works!
Spot applications like this, to deal with ecosystem disrupting plants is exactly where I think the use-case for this tool is. Great comment.
And there's me struggling to grow a few Autumn Olives in my garden! Evidently, they don't like Scotland, sulk for a year after planting, and if they don't die in the first winter, they plod along at such a slow rate of growth.
Our arborist used it to kill the Tree of Heaven after cutting it down. I replaced it with a couple of native trees. I see that a big win for local biodiversity.
Thank you for this vid. If you were going to move, would you choose a 1 acre plot in a glyphosate free region or a 20 acre plot in a region that uses tons of glyphosate? This is a decision I'm currently struggling with.
Does the 20 acre plot property have a well? If so I'd definitely choose the 1 acre plot so you don't get harmful chemicals in your drinking water. Also if the area is windy, will the glyphosate be carried on the wind to your plot?
That's such a tough question. If the 20 acre plot was able to be swaled at the border to the glyphosate property, then I would probably pick that. I would line that birder with swales and Reed ponds to accumulate and then remediate any surface runoff, and plant a large hedgerow to block wind contamination. Then I would plant out the farthest side.
But at the same time, 1 acre is a lot of land if it's in a way where most of it can be planted out. 1 acre of dense planting can easily support a family.
Its a real toss up.
Great ideas, thank you!!
Good points. Thank you!
Thank you for another balanced discussion of an important issue, I'm going to keep coming back to it as I'm interested to see if the bots start up in the comments 😂
So far so good! I can't believe it
I know what you mean when mention bots about glyp. I’ve made some comments on Reddit about it and I was downvoted to oblivion and multiple replies extolling it’s virtue. I was actually surprised how fast they came.
And it's funny, you would think they would time it better. I've had posts on reddit that hit -60 votes in literally 10 seconds. This on a 3 paragraph cited response that would take at least 2 minutes to read.
With respect to using roundup and soil bacteria(benefical) does it sterilize it
I haven't seen anything mentioned on that. I do not believe so no.
Anybody think glyphosate might be why so many people have corn and soy allergies suddenly?
My son has severe peanut allergies, and I've done so much digging into trying to figure out why all these allergies are popping up. It's really hard for research to pin down the cause. It's so hard for chronic things like this.
@@CanadianPermacultureLegacy I'm sure it's multifactorial in the final analysis. Sorry you're kiddo has to watch out for such a serious allergy.
Yeah, but what about it’s neuro-disruption in pollinators? I decided to not plant plants that attract bees in those areas because of this problem. Colony collapse is real.
Oh yes, many other reasons why it's terrible, and this is a great one.
Good point on the GMOs. Maybe there are ethically designed GMOs?...ones where capitalism/making $ isn't the primary/sole metric.
Unfortunately, despite having the ingenuity to develop any amount of useful tools, we humans consistently show that we can be completely irresponsible with them as well. Glyphosate is simply one such tool, right up there with Neonicotinoids and nuclear power.
Glyphosate is sold cheaply in large cans to the public, to use on whatever they wish, without supervision or the training required of us trade gardeners.
Along with people who act responsibly with chemicals, there are the totally negligent - the ones who do not dilute it properly, who use it in all the wrong places (knowingly and unknowingly), and who will just pour the excess down their drains when they've finished spraying a little path in their tiny back garden.
Some of my plants/trees have been affected and killed by 'drift' from a former farmer neighbour who either didn't know that it is illegal to spray chemicals in winds exceeding 5 knots or didn't care.
Not so long ago, my other landowner neighbour got his gamekeeper to spray a hunter's path alongside a stream that is the border between our properties. This had the effect of not only killing the plants in the spray zone there and then, it had a curious effect on wild flower bulbs the following Spring.
(I was furious to see this area treated so, especially so recklessly close to a stream, so I have been maintaining that hunter's path free of charge ever since - just to ensure that Glyphosate is never used there again).
Personally, I will never use Glyphosate. I won't say I've never been tempted. I have a large garden and quarter of an acre of it has a bramble problem. It takes 5 months every year to physically remove them as the ground is very rocky, this making complete removal of a rootstock an event almost worth celebrating. Absolute pain.
But, as a former professional gardener who has seen a string of former colleagues die at the young age of 50 from cancer, I know that it is a dangerous chemical that deserves the public suspicion it has begun to earn. I'm certain that it's not just killing the insect world, it's killing us too - and all in the name of making big money.
The worst part about this that one or two irresponsible humans is all it takes, especially for some of those techs (I'm thinking nuclear missiles especially).
We learned to exfoliate swaths of land in Vietnam. Then we recycled the technology and sold it to the farm industry.
I would pay good money to hear about that from you. Sounds legendary! You’re awesome.
Remember that a farmer needs to make a profit to feed their family. They do care about the earth but some need help to heal the soil and make a profit. Gabe Brown and the like.?.....?
100%. And without them we all die. People often forget that
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People really need to learn more about not only glyphosate, but how several chemicals work. Also it's important to take a look at past examples of issues with chemicals that in some cases turned out to be an unintentional contaminant. Believe it or not there have been an incredible amount of studies, and many of them not paid for by people selling roundup or selling an alternative that is usually more harmful to the environment. Every tool has a use, every tool can be misused to cause harm. People "picking a side" generally don't know what they are talking about.
Watch Dr Stephanie Seneff speaking on glyphosate to truly understand the devastating effects that glyphosate has on human health. She's the most knowledgeable person on this topic that I know of.
Absolutely!
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