Martin Carthy - Famous Flower Of Serving Men

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  • @davidweaver1699
    @davidweaver1699 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Martin Carthy's music is like a time machine. If you listen to his songs, I mean really listen...his voice and guitar will transport you back in time to Tudor Stuart England to experience all the joy and tragedy visited upon that most stoic of people.. the English.

  • @theondebray
    @theondebray 3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Wonderful! I had the privilege of picking him up from the station to take him to a local house concert a few years ago, he was the politest, humblest person you could ever hope to meet, especially as he is regarded as the grand old granddaddy of English folk music. And yup, bearing in mind he has played on the biggest folk stages, he had the courtesy to turn up for a small house concert. I hold him in the highest respect.

    • @simondenny305
      @simondenny305 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, a real talent and top guy. I did a supporting Dj set for him earlier this year, he was right interested in my record collection- and how he can play the guitar! ❤

  • @Teddyb1939
    @Teddyb1939 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Martin Carthy, in full flow, magical guitar and voice.

    • @KathrynRosa
      @KathrynRosa ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello

    • @KathrynRosa
      @KathrynRosa ปีที่แล้ว

      👋
      How are you doing today and it’s nice meeting you if you don’t mind
      Will you mind for a private chat 💬

  • @theseustoo
    @theseustoo ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Perhaps the most fabulous traditional song, played and sung by the most fabulous traditional folk-singer in the history of English folk music... and he's not a bad guitarist either! Martin Carthy RULES! :D

    • @HarryNicNicholas
      @HarryNicNicholas 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      "the bedmaking" has to be another classic, i could listen to these two tracks and nothing else. (maybe).

  • @HarryNicNicholas
    @HarryNicNicholas 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    i love the bass line in this. it would make a great movie.

  • @boggartholecloughfilm8939
    @boggartholecloughfilm8939 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    My mother did me deadly spite
    For she sent thieves in the dark of night
    Put my servants all to flight
    They robbed my bower they slew my knight
    They couldn′t do to me no harm
    So they slew my baby in my arm
    Left me naught to wrap him in
    But the bloody sheet that he lay in
    They left me naught to dig his grave
    But the bloody sword that slew my babe
    All alone the grave I made
    And all alone the tears I shed
    And all alone the bell I rang
    And all alone the psalm I sang
    I leaned my head all against a block
    And there I cut my lovely locks
    I cut my locks and I changed my name
    From Fair Eleanor to Sweet William
    Went to court to serve my king
    As the famous flower of serving men
    So well I served my lord, the king
    That he made me his chamberlain
    He loved me as his son
    The famous flower of serving men
    Oh oft time he'd look at me and smile
    So swift his heart I did beguile
    And he blessed the day that I became
    The famous flower of serving men
    But all alone in my bed at e′en
    Oh there I dreamed a dreadful dream
    I saw my bed swim with blood
    And I saw the thieves all around my head
    Our king has to the hunting gone
    He's ta'en no lords nor gentlemen
    He′s left me there to guard his home
    The famous flower of serving men
    Our king he rode the wood all around
    He stayed all day but nothing found
    And as he rode himself alone
    It′s there he saw the milk white hind
    Oh the hind she broke, the hind she flew
    The hind she trampled the brambles through
    First she'd mount, then she′d sound
    Sometimes before, sometimes behind
    Oh what is this, how can it be?
    Such a hind as this I ne'er did see
    Such a hind as this was never born
    I fear she′ll do me deadly harm
    And long, long did the great horse turn
    For to save his lord from branch and thorn
    And but long e'er the day was o′er
    It tangled all in his yellow hair
    All in the glade the hind drew nigh
    And the sun grew bright all in their eye
    And he sprang down, sword drew
    She vanished there all from his view
    And all around the grass was green
    And all around where a grave was seen
    And he sat himself all on the stone
    Great weariness it seized him on
    Great silence hung from tree to sky
    The woods grew still, the sun on fire
    As through the woods the dove he came
    As through the wood he made his moan
    Oh, the dove, he sat down on a stone
    So sweet he looked, so soft he sang
    "Alas the day my love became
    The famous flower of serving men"
    The bloody tears they fell as rain
    As still he sat and still he sang
    "Alas the day my love became
    The famous flower of serving men"
    Our king cried out, and he wept full sore
    So loud unto the dove he did call
    "Oh pretty bird, come sing it plain"
    "Oh it was her mother's deadly spite
    For she sent thieves in the dark of the night
    They come to rob, they come to slay
    They made their sport, they went their way
    "And don't you think that her heart was sore
    As she laid the mould on his yellow hair
    And don′t you think her heart was woe
    As she turned her back away to go
    "And how she wept as she changed her name
    From Fair Eleanor to Sweet William
    Went to court to serve her king
    As the famous flower of serving men"
    Oh the bloody tears they lay all around
    He′s mounted up and away he's gone
    And one thought come to his mind
    The thought of her that was a man
    And as he rode himself alone
    A dreadful oath he there has sworn
    And that he would hunt her mother down
    As he would hunt the wildwood swine
    For there′s four and twenty ladies all
    And they're all playing at the ball
    But fairer than all of them
    Is the famous flower of serving men
    Oh he′s rode him into his hall
    And he's rode in among them all
    He′s lifted her to his saddle brim
    And there he's kissed her cheek and chin
    His nobles stood and they stretched their eyes
    The ladies took to their fans and smiled
    For such a strange homecoming
    No gentleman had ever seen
    And he has sent his nobles all
    Unto her mother they have gone
    They've ta′en her that′s did such wrong
    They've laid her down in prison strong
    And he′s brought men up from the corn
    And he's sent men down to the thorn
    All for to build the bonfire high
    All for to set her mother by
    All bonny sang the morning thrush
    All where he sat in yonder bush
    But louder did her mother cry
    In the bonfire where she burned close by
    For there she stood all among the thorn
    And there she sang her deadly song
    "Alas the day that she became
    The famous flower of serving men"
    For the fire took first all on her cheek
    And then it took all on her chin
    It spat and rang in her yellow hair
    And soon there was no life left in

    • @abilitiesrehab5071
      @abilitiesrehab5071 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      just in case someone couldn't hear it...

    • @MouseSharman
      @MouseSharman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@abilitiesrehab5071 In case someone wants to sing along. Don't be a bell-end.

  • @theseustoo
    @theseustoo ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If I had to choose a single Martin Carthy song as a favorite, it would be a hard choice between so many fabulous songs, but in the final analysis, this song would probably be it... I think! :/

  • @donnarawlinsfrench220
    @donnarawlinsfrench220 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    "Oh pretty bird, come sing it plain"...this wonderful song has beguiled me for 45+ years: Martin's narrative delves deeply into the distant past, but the narrative is so searing..."for they sent thieves in the deep of the night"...Martin cuts to the tragic chase immediately, and the tale's resolution is thus so warm and gorgeously, forgivingly romantic. One of the greatest folk music recordings from the 20th Century. Thank you, Martin!

    • @dfreeman120
      @dfreeman120 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just listened to this genius performance about 20 times in a row.

  • @davidahugill9614
    @davidahugill9614 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sheer poetry.................Martin Carthy ,Dick Gaughan , Martin Simpson ,,,,,,,,,,,the real deal ..... Cheers DaveH

    • @andy2box
      @andy2box 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Nic Jones !!!

  • @stephenwarrilow4220
    @stephenwarrilow4220 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Haunting and melodramatic...the guitar accompaniment is peerless.

  • @alisonmcnee557
    @alisonmcnee557 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Saw Martin do this at the Manchester Sports Guild in the 70's - blew me away , what a genius interpreter , guitar and singer ! ✌️ ♥️ 🎶 ☮️ 🇬🇧

  • @WatTyler13
    @WatTyler13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    I've obsessed over this song for years. It never fails.

    • @estherberry4046
      @estherberry4046 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Likewise

    • @jamesrobert4106
      @jamesrobert4106 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      7 years after your comment, I discoved it for the first time yesterday having been watching a Bert Jansch documentary.
      This song is incredible 😁

    • @theseustoo
      @theseustoo ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jamesrobert4106 You're SO lucky! Do yourself a favor and check out Martin Carthy's album, "Shearwater"... Trust me, you'll LOVE it! :D

  • @oldLao
    @oldLao 10 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Martin Carthy belongs in the pantheon of progenitors of the british soul with Blake and Milton

    • @mfisher1952
      @mfisher1952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Mesmerising. Utterly mesmerizing - and that's difficult to do with nine minutes to fill.

    • @d.w.stratton4078
      @d.w.stratton4078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hear hear!

    • @hectorlp1298
      @hectorlp1298 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      national treasure!

    • @dancapriotti8896
      @dancapriotti8896 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      “Martin Carthy is in the pantheon...”
      There, I fixed it for you.

    • @anthonyfmoss
      @anthonyfmoss 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I’m completely with you!

  • @mfrost71w
    @mfrost71w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Seen him quite a few times - everywhere from a small pub in Lark Lane Liverpool where I sat about 3 feet away to top billing at the Broadstairs Folk Festival Never disappoints

  • @andersingram
    @andersingram 5 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Adapted from the ballad originally written by Laurence Price, one of the seventeenth centuries most prolific and commercially successful ballad writers, first published 1656 ...

  • @oddish4352
    @oddish4352 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favorite version of the song/poem forgoes the extended torture scene, leaving the mother in prison and cutting back to the king:
    "And to put an end to further strife,
    He's taken Sweet William for a wife.
    And so, for the first time ever seen,
    A serving man became a queen."

  • @barbarajames4933
    @barbarajames4933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This song is mesmerizing ❤️🌿💥

  • @1sosalini
    @1sosalini 10 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    breathtaking . absolutely Martins finest hour .

  • @stevewhiteba
    @stevewhiteba 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love my folk music. I've seen & heard so many wonderful performers over the last 50 years. But I always come back to this. Absolutely wonderful. Just played it through, now I'm gonna do it again,,,,,, do it again? I like the Beach Boys too!

  • @tunguskalumberjack9987
    @tunguskalumberjack9987 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is the first time that I’ve heard this studio version- I have only heard the live version from a small pub performance (the one in which he asks for a pineapple juice before beginning). I love how he tells the background story of the song as he tunes his guitar before starting to play, and seeing the look on his face when he sings, not to mention watching his fingers make magic happen on the strings. What an unforgettable experience it is, and while I ultimately prefer the live version, this one will definitely have a permanent place in the soundtrack of my life. Thanks so much for posting this for us all to enjoy.

  • @sandramorey2529
    @sandramorey2529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Try listening to Willie's Lady, which is a Breton dance tune with this gorgeous mystical ballad put to it as only Martin Carthy can do. Also Ray Fisher sings it with Martin Carthy providing the guitar part. Luckily for us Martin is still performing with his daughter, Eliza and a whole slew of Watersons. They are so amazing! Martin is probably one of the best guitarists on the planet.

  • @d.w.stratton4078
    @d.w.stratton4078 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The shift from minor key to major key to minor key again is so intoxicating that I just want the song to go on forever.

  • @Greenknight1099
    @Greenknight1099 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To me he's the most important male folk singer in the business

  • @geoffpalmer6711
    @geoffpalmer6711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Such intensity - and that's just in the first verse. Absolutely compelling.

  • @redbeardsbirds3747
    @redbeardsbirds3747 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I can definitely hear English folk music influence in traditional Appalachian Mountain music !

  • @WatTyler13
    @WatTyler13 12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wonderful beyond words. I feel so privileged to have seen Carthy play a number of times, including once or twice in very intimate settings of the back rooms of pubs.
    He is the very embodiment of folk music.

  • @blackmichael75
    @blackmichael75 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I'm not even a big fan of folk music, but there's something extraordinary about this arrangement and performance.

    • @1sosalini
      @1sosalini 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think its the sheer power and attack that is the key . he also manages to get the quieter parts in too , light and shade .

    • @echolightstudio9456
      @echolightstudio9456 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The intensity & power does it for sure. I wonder if it might also be that major-pentatonic "aura" with those meditative drones that get you (as art-fart as that sounds) ...I've known this song for decades and it still gets me...

    • @sandramorey2529
      @sandramorey2529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I first heard this song at age 5 and I was hooked forever. These ballads come down to us from hundreds of years ago passed from parent to child. They tell scary stories and gentle love stories. They pass on history which it might do us well to learn from. Martin Carthy is one of the
      very best balladeers and plays guitar like nobody else. These ballads require a lot from an audience. It is like Shakespeare and takes so much attention to figure out what's going on in the ballad. The language is gorgeous.

  • @stonethecrows25
    @stonethecrows25 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Dramatic and life-changing stuff for the listener. Was Martin's guitar ever more percussive than here?

  • @LaserGuidedWhitehaus
    @LaserGuidedWhitehaus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I always liked this resurrected older English music. When people like Davy Graham in the early 1960s, and later, Martin Carthy, John Kirkpatrick, Maddy Prior, etc, started turning these songs up again (on paper, lost in libraries, even, I think) it all seemed to fit comfortably (for me) into a world of rock. The 'edginess' of these open guitar-tunings, and a sort of simmering aggressiveness in the music work well 200 years later. It's always fresh and interesting to my ears. Some weird time signatures, and also, interesting turns of phrase, if you're amused by older ways of speaking English.

  • @BoerChris
    @BoerChris 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I have known this song for over 40 years, and love it. I especially love the way the rhythms are sung at certain moments: "the hind she trampled the brambles through" (seeing the hind picking up her knees as she tramples); "long, long did the great horse turn" (seeing the horse rearing and plunging); and that brief but significant guitar pause as he sings "great silence hung from tree to sky". Masterly.

  • @drewmacleod6414
    @drewmacleod6414 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Saw him play this at Wick Folk Club in the mid 1970's. What an experience and since I was doing the review for the local paper I got to interview Martin afterwards. Those were the days.

  • @Pwecko
    @Pwecko 5 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I've listened to this so many times over the years but it never gets stale. A magical performance. Undoubtedly Martin Carthy's finest hour (or 9:22 anyway).

  • @naffsharpe
    @naffsharpe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The most powerful folk guitar tune ever, and the one that I've been trying for 40+ years to learn correctly.

  • @yiggoto
    @yiggoto 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Mesmerising. I first heard this thirty years ago and it still haunts me.

  • @mfisher1952
    @mfisher1952 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Such a simple arrangement - but utterly hypnotic. A bravura performance.

  • @3340steve
    @3340steve 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fantastic song and performance.

  • @gphilipvirgil355
    @gphilipvirgil355 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Holy smokes!!😮

  • @marks3970
    @marks3970 8 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    For me it was 32/33 years ago at Aberystwyth (Uni) Folk Club in Wales. The pleasure too of a chat with Martin at the bar during the interlude just before he broke into this song. You cut the air with a knife each and every time he sang this - one of life's great experiences!

    • @1sosalini
      @1sosalini 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      you lucky ducky , great story , missed it !!!

  • @norton7256
    @norton7256 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    He played this at our folk club The GiffordArms in Wolverhampton in the seventies i still have the recording i made on tape...now saved on the computer..wonderful.

    • @Ianjcarroll
      @Ianjcarroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      you are very luck to have seen and heard Martin live, one day i also wish to see him in the flesh.

  • @kateking3953
    @kateking3953 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The origins of this lie in a ballad from the Borders. I first heard it over half a lifetime ago, and I still love it for it's purity and
    connection to our folk past.

  • @LemoTetson
    @LemoTetson 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great recording. This song goes back to the 1650s, doesn't it?

  • @PaulR986
    @PaulR986 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    First heard this in1971 On the album. It is pure story which I can listen to time and time again. I remember holding my own baby in my arm in 1973 and listening to this through headphones.
    I am one with Beggar Wall.

  • @jobarrieglenn
    @jobarrieglenn 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Big thumbs up. Followed Martin for a long long time

  • @MrScintilator
    @MrScintilator 12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The most powerful English folk singer in modern times.
    "They left me nought to dig his grave but the bloody sword that slew my babe"

  • @LateNotes
    @LateNotes 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    a singular gem.

  • @Neitherherenorthere970
    @Neitherherenorthere970 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wonderful - one of Martin's very best

  • @chriscaplin9551
    @chriscaplin9551 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wonderful bits of Older English. "tained her". How beautiful when compared with arrested! A lovely song which I first heard many years ago but this is the best rendition.

    • @Ianjcarroll
      @Ianjcarroll 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      indeed, wonderful Old English.

    • @andywhysall6744
      @andywhysall6744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Not as elaborate as "''tained her" it's 'ta'en', as in 'taken', a common contraction in folk song. When I was about 16 I had to ask Martin what the "All alone in my bed a teen' line meant...he was patient and suggested I look to my Shakespeare, and that it was :"at e'en"...ie. at evening..

    • @chriscaplin9551
      @chriscaplin9551 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@andywhysall6744 Similar to gloaming , as in roaming in the --.It was years before I learnt it was Scots for twilight or dusk.

    • @chriscaplin9551
      @chriscaplin9551 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@andywhysall6744 Same miss use as in Hallows eve. We have a beautiful language with some very old words in it. My grandfather spoke of effits and emmets.
      Years later I found that it was saxon for newts and ants!

    • @chriscaplin9551
      @chriscaplin9551 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Daniel W. Bridge The feast of All Hallows (All Saints) is still celebrated in some countries in memory of dead family members. Halloween was the Scottish version. But has been "bent" , probably for commercial reasons.

  • @NeonTotemFractals
    @NeonTotemFractals 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic, love this song and this version.... namaste to all :D

  • @faiskies_
    @faiskies_ 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is freakin beautiful

  • @TheHeathenSquirrel
    @TheHeathenSquirrel 9 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    This has stayed with me ever since I first heard it on a compilation sent by a knowledgable friend. Utterly mesmerising and perfect. The story is stunning, the vocals powerful and pitch perfect, but what I've always loved the most is the guitar playing. Incredible. So good to be able to share this with everyone, great work on the upload.

  • @douglasalan5783
    @douglasalan5783 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I had the pleasure of seeing Martin when he was with Steeleye Span. Oxford, UK, summer of '77. Martin played a Strat or Tele, if memory serves. This performance is just off the charts brilliant. Totally mesmerizing.

  • @Mehefinheulog1
    @Mehefinheulog1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    just utterlly stunning

  • @edwardhutchison5099
    @edwardhutchison5099 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A Story To End All Stories:

  • @felixhelix4274
    @felixhelix4274 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this tune haunts me

  • @JT-sr2pl
    @JT-sr2pl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes Please!!

  • @Glenechocreek
    @Glenechocreek 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    That guitar playing is as powerful as any blues or rock offering. Fylde Falstaff tuned to CGCGCD. I could live a 1,000 years and not forget it.

    • @maxcuthbert100
      @maxcuthbert100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think this is from before the Fylde days....not that it matters too much.

    • @andywhysall6744
      @andywhysall6744 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was recorded with his ancient, even then, Martin 00018. Falstaff was yet to come.

    • @Glenechocreek
      @Glenechocreek 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I saw him live in about 2000. I requested this song, and he put down his Martin, picked up the Fylde, and played the song. And, there's a video on YT of him doing it with the Fylde that you can watch.

    • @hugodetroyer845
      @hugodetroyer845 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      The original recording was definitely with his Martin 00018. The LP Shearwater (on which it's featured) is from 1972, and the Fylde Guitars company was only founded in 1973.

  • @dannydine5263
    @dannydine5263 9 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Where i come from people would turn and walk away if this was played live.Even if it was performed this good they would just say it was weird. I kinda hate where i live.

    • @tonyoliver6797
      @tonyoliver6797 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Danny Dine People (generalisation) prefer artists who use auto-tune, unfortunately. I think people take for granted the skill and finesse that goes into playing tunes such as this.

    • @dannydine5263
      @dannydine5263 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Tony Oliver Yes i agree.They tend to change there minds if they ever take guitar lessons.Its takes a hell of a lot of skill and finesse to play something like this.This is out there.His voice is really cool to.

    • @jackshirack2
      @jackshirack2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's not just that boys. He's singing of our past, our heritage, these were spoken by our forbearers and he brings their spirit back to life when channeling his energy into these songs. This will be forgotten and destroyed like our current cultural heritage. The existence of our people is not negotiable.

  • @stephenperkins1929
    @stephenperkins1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EXTRAORDINARY

  • @georgehaswell4275
    @georgehaswell4275 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Indivualy and collectively was the original comment to cryptic steeleye span may help

  • @sflyons
    @sflyons 12 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'd give my left stone to hear PJ Harvey do this.

    • @stuartbarker6508
      @stuartbarker6508 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      SF Lyons I'd give your right one never to have to listen to the whining bitch at all

    • @ben-fe3zy
      @ben-fe3zy 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oooh, I love a good riddle. Give me a minute........ No it's no good, I can't solve it. Tell me, does Mr Lyons now have zero, or two stones?

  • @chriscboland
    @chriscboland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apparently they're talking to Saoirse Ronan, Meryl Streep and Denzel for the movie .....

  • @erikamundson5515
    @erikamundson5515 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Michael McKean recommendation..

  • @johnloveday2161
    @johnloveday2161 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    LOVE OF VIRTUE WILL ALWATS WITNESS

    • @KathrynRosa
      @KathrynRosa ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello

    • @KathrynRosa
      @KathrynRosa ปีที่แล้ว

      👋
      How are you doing today and it’s nice meeting you if you don’t mind
      Will you mind for a private chat 💬

    • @johnloveday2161
      @johnloveday2161 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KathrynRosa Hi Kathy - I live in Manchester !

  • @zarathushtra9564
    @zarathushtra9564 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really beautiful music, with meaninful content, no sign of mass culture...

  • @micosenor3148
    @micosenor3148 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    what a gruesome song

  • @freetofu
    @freetofu 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    What the hell is the time signature on this?

    • @nigelbowley7027
      @nigelbowley7027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Martin, in 'A Guitar In Folk Music' notes it in 9/8, but I think of it in more of a mixture of 4/4 and 5/4. It doesn't really matter; just put the bass notes (drone) where you feel that they fit. Martin says that English folk music is basically in 1/4!

    • @annother3350
      @annother3350 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigelbowley7027 Even if you tap on the 'ones' I'm sure there is a half beat every so often

  • @amykirk1718
    @amykirk1718 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Is this song in a mode?

    • @garywolstenholme4097
      @garywolstenholme4097 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes, Mixolydian.

    • @torbjornkarlsen
      @torbjornkarlsen 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also the tonic chord and most of the melody omits the third which is quite characteristic.

  • @johnridley4868
    @johnridley4868 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anybody know the tuning?

    • @ksmyth999
      @ksmyth999 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He was quoted as saying it was DGCGCD. But if you listen to the recodings he seems to have tuned his guitar to the B on the 2nd string. So it seems to be a half tone lower viz.: C# F# B F# B C#.
      Maybe some one who has tried to play it can comment on my analysis. This song totally knocked me out when I first heard it. It is his finest performance. His ability to sing perfectly and distinctly over complicated guitar voicings is almost unique. (Almost: There is probably someone as good but I can't think who it is. :))

    • @maxcuthbert100
      @maxcuthbert100 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nic Jones. The tuning is basically correct.

    • @andywhysall6744
      @andywhysall6744 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      DGCGCD is an interesting tuning. The available drones allow you to play in a kind of 'frailed' banjo-style if you feel that way out, and there's room for experimentation around Martin's style for this tune. Have to say these days I play it, to interesting effect, on a primitive tuning c/o Dick Gaughan, I think I from Coppers and Brass days, EAAEAE. Have to say, I would have loved to hear Richard Thompson do something with Famous Flower sometime between 1978 and 1982. After that, no.

    • @maxcuthbert100
      @maxcuthbert100 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thompson's not that big on tunings,at least,for public consumption.Fair enough.

  • @paddybpaddyb9940
    @paddybpaddyb9940 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sweet Jeebus.......goes on a bit

  • @chrishall1902
    @chrishall1902 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Punk missed a trick here !

  • @Blueyes787
    @Blueyes787 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sounds like it's a four a cross dresser.

  • @JesusSanchez-hd8ro
    @JesusSanchez-hd8ro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't get the lyrics. Can someone explain?

    • @kateking3953
      @kateking3953 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And the white hart, a white deer, and the dove, are magical creatures. The dove represents the spirit of the murdered husband, and in folk tales white harts always point to some deeper truth when seen in the hunt.
      In the story the white hart leads the hunting king to the spot in the forest where the murder took place, and the the dove comes and sings about the murder. The song is based in a ballad from the area between England and Scotland - 'the borders' - where there was much violence and murder and cattle raiding through
      the centuries.