If people don't care by now, are slogans going to make them suddenly start caring? The whole world knows about the issue so what more awareness are they trying to bring?
@@jaronmillan9951 How is it "pro-colonization?"..... England isn't trying to take Hong Kong back. The protests in Hong Kong that King James brushed off as meaningless were for police brutality and voting rights. Sound familiar?
I mean how different will the players slogans be if they got to choose. I mean they should be thankful that they even can put a change in the jerseys especially 14+ slogans.
I agree, i think getting anything on the jersey is good. I think they should wear whatever they want to and from game, and on warmups. Most companies wouldn't let u put anything on there uniforms. long players are sensored on there time i think this is at least something.
When I was in college and worked at a 711 I couldn’t have facial hair. I forgot to shave one day and they sent me home. The league doesn’t have to allow anything. These players are on no leash.
Why doesnt the NBA just allow players to submit what they want to have written on the jersey and then approve it instead of having a set list? This way they can still get in front of messages that interfere with they’re policies.
But it allows the players more freedom on what they want to say. There are inevitably gonna be ones that are rejected, and they have to deal with it. No matter the solution, you can never please anyone.
The messages still need to be approved. The NBA as an organization may be more aware of the repercussions of certain slogans rather than the players. Parameters need to be set.
Y'all are gonna have to mute Perk until he's about to talk lol. I love Perk but ya it can be a little distracting hearing someone breathing into the mic while someone is trying to talk lol
Exactly. Ja morant said he would put “F*CK” on his jersey. How are they just supposed to trust the other 350+ guys, regardless of whether ja apologized about it or not.
Love first take, but NBA and WNBA treatment in regard to accommodations in the bubble should NOT be treated equally, because the NBA is an enterprise, and the NBA makes considerably more money and revenue than the WNBA. Accommodations should be proportionate to revenue generated. It's not sexist at all. It's smart business.
I support the NBA on this one and disagree with SAS and Scott. Allowing the players to put whatever they want could lead to problems. Like we had a nfl player post anti Semitic stuff in an attempt to defend black people the other day, he didn’t mean what he said but that was the way it came across. Even if the nba vets every message something may get through to become some other issue. There is a reason why whatever is put on a nba jersey is highly scrutinized and goes through a series of checks before being approved. It is not as easy as you think. Ironically it would have been better if the nba didn’t even let them have any msgs on their jerseys. It goes to show that trying to please everyone can often lead to disaster.
I agree with Stephan A but I also agree with Perkins when he said he shoulda just called the PA directly instead of throwing the NBA possibly undeservingly under the bus. Just saying there’s more productive means of inacting change than posting a tweet about it to millions of people who might not understand the full context.
Cannot really fight this beast behind closed doors. Bring its advances and options to the media front for the nation to keep abreast before the final decision is made. This is no regular business deal.
Didn't the WNBA players just get a raise while their league still loses money? Part of the extra had to come from somewhere...I mean it's not a coincidence this is the first we've heard about laundry services. The should use that extra money and get their clothes dry cleaned through the hotel.
Stephen A’s take it’s hypocritical. His point previously was that by playing, it would amplify the players voice, but now he doesn’t care as much as actions that could/should be taken off the court. I’m not with him on this one.
In the end isn’t it still better that it’s amplifying their voices? Sure it’s a closed list, but they were carefully chosen words that will echo through people’s brains over and over while watching the game. Isn’t this what we want....
ihrv23 I agree if the list was chosen by the players. If the league chose the message(s) then they’re still diminishing the players voices. “Of course you can speak out. But only in the way we think is appropriate”. That’s not really “giving” the players a voice or allowing them to express themselves.
Stupid arguments. You can’t let players put whatever they want. Look no farther than Ja Morant and what he wanted to put on his jersey. Of course they have to limit it. Kendrick has it right.
Nobody had a problem about this last week😂and really how many different slogans are the players going to choose that are not already approved by the NBA?
Lol if you really cared about change you'd be against a league restart. More messages won't change a thing, refuse to resume the league and hit the owners where it hurts - their pockets. These guys have real ability to lobby for government to make change.
The three stooges. Just bcuz Stephen A says it doesnt mean its right, or all people agree with him. U first have to figure out which of his two faces ur speaking with.
I Know NBA brings more income than WNBA but come on at the end of the day those are women. Give them proper care. But as for this jersey plan it's nonsense if they control what the play wants to say.... They might as well do it
With WNBA differences with the mens league treatment, let's dont forget what has more pull than anything and that's money made . So , people can complain, but the truth is the WNBA doesn't draw nothing compared the NBA . Dont make it an equality thing , because anybody with understanding of how all pro sports work . Sorry ladies you dont make as much $ as the men that's nothing new in sports . Has nothing to do with quality of basketball on the court or mistreatment of women. Those platforms are B.S. dont forget the most important factor again with all pro sports. It's all about making money. In fact , that's pretty much the whole way of everything you see on your phone, tv , computer and all forms of media. Let's dont lie to ourselves, I'm not complaining about, I don't have a problemwith, Not saying that's right , just a fact we all live in.
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Can ESPN please mute Perks mic when’s he’s not talking. Asking for a friend.
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🤣 you're fried lol
Just saw your comment after mine 😂😂 exactly haha
What? Let me tell yo something Perks breath is a theme song of this show.😂
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Perk stay breathing hard on the mic.
I laughed WAY harder than I should have at this 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not his only time doing it 😆😆😆😆
Every segment. B4 they introduce him you know he on the show if you hear that breathing in the opening seconds😂
it's like when you hear lil wayne lighting up before a verse...ahaha
@@devonalexander8985 😂💀
Can there be just one video of Kendrick Perkins not moaning in my ear
lol
They should put free Hong kong on their jersies
'Don't bite the hands that feed u'-every NBA player
Ramifications
"Shut up you're uninformed about the Hong Kong protests!"
--A wise rich man who definitely believes in justice against police brutality...selectively.
We no pay you anymore!
- Xi
If people don't care by now, are slogans going to make them suddenly start caring? The whole world knows about the issue so what more awareness are they trying to bring?
They should put a sign "no more sweat shops" on their NIKE jerseys.
That like getting a diamond chain saying "F*ck Sierra Leone" 😫
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3:25 Max we know you don't disagree. You wouldn't have a job if you did.
Basically
Cry more 😂😂😂
@@Jon155mt hes not wrong
Well it's a debate show. What do you expect
Jongeun Kim He never is
Free Hong Kong should be one of the choices..
That's uninformed!
--Lebron James, outspoken critic of police brutality. 😏🤣
Blame Ja Morant for submitting "F*ck 12" as an idea.
Gross, why would these black men want to support a right wing pro-colonization stance?
@@jaronmillan9951 How is it "pro-colonization?"..... England isn't trying to take Hong Kong back.
The protests in Hong Kong that King James brushed off as meaningless were for police brutality and voting rights. Sound familiar?
Is hong kong part of united states of america? Let the chinese league deal with that.
KD was spot on when he called Perk a sellout
I'm glad people are seeing it.
Y'all should've known the NBA wasn't gonna allow them to just choose anything. They'll only give so much extra leash to maneuver with. .💯
I mean how different will the players slogans be if they got to choose. I mean they should be thankful that they even can put a change in the jerseys especially 14+ slogans.
I agree, i think getting anything on the jersey is good. I think they should wear whatever they want to and from game, and on warmups. Most companies wouldn't let u put anything on there uniforms.
long players are sensored on there time i think this is at least something.
When I was in college and worked at a 711 I couldn’t have facial hair. I forgot to shave one day and they sent me home. The league doesn’t have to allow anything. These players are on no leash.
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@@jasonhall7335 same with construction workers with workboots or PPE
Painting streets with BLM, "Lift Every Voice" Before The Anthem, ect.. none of these gestures REALLY matter. What is really changing systematically?
to them it seems like the cool thing to do but it wont fix anything.
Well why do people keep doing it then.
@@Mikel424 Why do people do anything they do?
@@VForbes why do something that is pointless
@@FriendlyTroll5 welp I guess we are back at square one then
Mike is actually right on this one
Why doesnt the NBA just allow players to submit what they want to have written on the jersey and then approve it instead of having a set list? This way they can still get in front of messages that interfere with they’re policies.
Because when word gets out they said no to certain slogans. It'll be very bad press on the NBA.
But it allows the players more freedom on what they want to say. There are inevitably gonna be ones that are rejected, and they have to deal with it. No matter the solution, you can never please anyone.
It won't happen but it would be dope if they would let the players have what ever they wanted written
Because ja morant said he was gonna put “F*CK” on his jersey.
Still don’t understand what this is solving 🤷🏾♂️
When he said I heard rumblings, I thought he was mentioning Perks heavy breathing and fidgeting.
The messages still need to be approved. The NBA as an organization may be more aware of the repercussions of certain slogans rather than the players. Parameters need to be set.
Here's a slogan...STOP COMMITTING CRIMES
I used to like perk back when he was used to mean mug people on the court. Once he opened his mouth the first time, all respect out the window
"Free Hong Kong"
The WNBA is a charity basically. I’m sick of hearing the whole “we aren’t treated the same” argument. WNBA losses money year after year.
Because they suck... not as athletic or skilled as the NBA
J 💯
Nothing will happen because we have no control in change, it all starts with the higher ups
Molly need to mute Perk soon as the debate starts like a Zoom session.
Y'all are gonna have to mute Perk until he's about to talk lol. I love Perk but ya it can be a little distracting hearing someone breathing into the mic while someone is trying to talk lol
SAS was doing fine until he got off topic from the NBA to the WNBA
Because they don’t feel like approving every single idea a player has.
Exactly. Ja morant said he would put “F*CK” on his jersey. How are they just supposed to trust the other 350+ guys, regardless of whether ja apologized about it or not.
LeBron gonna hate Mike Scott got the rest of eternity
This comment didn’t age well
The players should be able to choose their own messages. He’s completely right
Always about the dollars people don't forget.
Is it just me or does it sound like Kendrick is itching his jock in the background? 😂
I like what Perkins said, everyone is a critic. And forms an opinion before they know all needed information
Perkins just be talking. B.c Jaylen Brown said the same and he on the board. So the NBA decided on their own what to use.
ESPN He called it a bad list not a bad miss. Get it right
In the great words of Connor McGregor, "Who the fook is that guy?!"
Vince McMahon well you clearly don’t know much so don’t make your opinion be heard.
“All messages are equal, but some messages are more equal than others.” 🙄
What about brands? Players should be able to have sponsors...
I’m with Perk on this one
i don't understand why Perk get's it and these other two dudes don't. Hat's off to you Perk but mute the mic when you're not talking
Love first take, but NBA and WNBA treatment in regard to accommodations in the bubble should NOT be treated equally, because the NBA is an enterprise, and the NBA makes considerably more money and revenue than the WNBA. Accommodations should be proportionate to revenue generated. It's not sexist at all. It's smart business.
I support the NBA on this one and disagree with SAS and Scott. Allowing the players to put whatever they want could lead to problems. Like we had a nfl player post anti Semitic stuff in an attempt to defend black people the other day, he didn’t mean what he said but that was the way it came across. Even if the nba vets every message something may get through to become some other issue. There is a reason why whatever is put on a nba jersey is highly scrutinized and goes through a series of checks before being approved. It is not as easy as you think. Ironically it would have been better if the nba didn’t even let them have any msgs on their jerseys. It goes to show that trying to please everyone can often lead to disaster.
Perk nailed it. If 10 out of 400 players attend NBPA meetings - hard to complain then..
It was stupid for the NBA to entertain this idea from the first place.
"Unarmed" does not mean _harmless_ . Just watch some police and military training vids.
If “Ready for Revolution” isn’t their we have a major problem
I agree with Stephan A but I also agree with Perkins when he said he shoulda just called the PA directly instead of throwing the NBA possibly undeservingly under the bus. Just saying there’s more productive means of inacting change than posting a tweet about it to millions of people who might not understand the full context.
The nba did this cause ja morant said he was gonna put ‘F*CK’ on his jersey.
Why does it matter if they put gestures on their jerseys?
All the jerseys just should have said “my life matters”..
You must be 12
Cannot really fight this beast behind closed doors. Bring its advances and options to the media front for the nation to keep abreast before the final decision is made. This is no regular business deal.
I wish they would’ve played the comments on this video
I agree with Kendrick Perkins
How does Perkins know Mike Scott didnt reach out to these ppl prior to?
I agree with mike salute you brah mike cool
We spoke before down to earth brother
Yo we gotta Perk dude breathing heavy af
Perk made the best points. Great job
Can we stop pretending people care about the WNBA
Didn't the WNBA players just get a raise while their league still loses money? Part of the extra had to come from somewhere...I mean it's not a coincidence this is the first we've heard about laundry services. The should use that extra money and get their clothes dry cleaned through the hotel.
I still don’t understand why Perkins gets so much TV time
Relentlessly almost murdered Kendrick Perkins.
I’d love some players to put stuff about kobe on their jerseys someone should honor him
One is a sport one is a joke. I like sports I like jokes.
Here is an idea: Whenever a person is killed by the police, then a body outside the police is called in to write a report.
How exactly could they write a report if they were not at the scene???
Let's get "Free Hong Kong" on all jerseys
Ew why would they support something Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz support
The wnba is pointless.
Stephen A’s take it’s hypocritical. His point previously was that by playing, it would amplify the players voice, but now he doesn’t care as much as actions that could/should be taken off the court. I’m not with him on this one.
In the end isn’t it still better that it’s amplifying their voices? Sure it’s a closed list, but they were carefully chosen words that will echo through people’s brains over and over while watching the game. Isn’t this what we want....
ihrv23 I agree if the list was chosen by the players. If the league chose the message(s) then they’re still diminishing the players voices. “Of course you can speak out. But only in the way we think is appropriate”. That’s not really “giving” the players a voice or allowing them to express themselves.
Is Max on his knees during this?
We gon crib at everything now?
Perk needs some cardio
What is the name of the girl? Why isn't her name in the summary?
Don't compare any social issues with the wnba "rumblings". That was a dumb take
Stupid arguments. You can’t let players put whatever they want. Look no farther than Ja Morant and what he wanted to put on his jersey. Of course they have to limit it. Kendrick has it right.
Nobody had a problem about this last week😂and really how many different slogans are the players going to choose that are not already approved by the NBA?
*FREE HONG KONG* something like that.
ESPN is a sellout
If something else besides a name can be put on a jersey, players should be able to choose. Then Spencer Dinwiddie can wear a GoFundMe jersey😂
The Wnba needs to shut up. Give the NBA their money back or do something else. You lose money for 20+ years and still around. I call that privilege.
We naively celebrate the NBA as a players league. The truth is it’s an owners league.
Ok. I'm not hatin on WNBA but if they get more viewers, they get more money and they get better salaries and facilities.
Put Free Hong Kong on those jerseys if y'all actually about the justice and not the money
Put big American flags across front of all jerseys
rawlinch ah see folks...here we have a bootlicker in his natural habitat
SAS pretending like he really cares smh
Just get your own league history gone repeat its self ain't no reasoning
it's good they have a choice...
Must keep bringing back BIG Perk instead of Jay!
That’s the Real Stephen A!!!
But you care about Jerry Jones making a statement
Lol if you really cared about change you'd be against a league restart. More messages won't change a thing, refuse to resume the league and hit the owners where it hurts - their pockets. These guys have real ability to lobby for government to make change.
So.... Mike Scott is asked a question but he should talk to the NBAPA before answering it... lol Ok Perk
They can’t just be happy with the NBA allowing this. They’re never satisfied. Always gotta be asking for more
Like officer Tatum say, black always blame white people or complaining about something
@@kw9377 but yet you're here complaining lol pure comedy 😂😂😂
Perk smokes gas all day
I dont
What about Blacks stop resisting Police officers Orders
Is this news?
Wow. Wild. Kinda cool too
The threegional manager
The three stooges. Just bcuz Stephen A says it doesnt mean its right, or all people agree with him. U first have to figure out which of his two faces ur speaking with.
Anybody else hear that applause in the background when SAS was talking ...
How can the system pick your cause?gtfo
OH God the WNBA player don’t deserve what the NBA player get!!! The NBA pays for them! If I was an NBA player I’d be pisssed off!!
Maxx and skip whopped Steven and Shannon I’m this one.
I Know NBA brings more income than WNBA but come on at the end of the day those are women. Give them proper care. But as for this jersey plan it's nonsense if they control what the play wants to say.... They might as well do it
More income? The WNBA has not has 1 single profitable year since it began in the 90s.
They are a leach to the NBA and a money pit for owners
The wnba needs to stay home and stay safe nobody watching it.
Seems pretty privileged to me
With WNBA differences with the mens league treatment, let's dont forget what has more pull than anything and that's money made . So , people can complain, but the truth is the WNBA doesn't draw nothing compared the NBA . Dont make it an equality thing , because anybody with understanding of how all pro sports work . Sorry ladies you dont make as much $ as the men that's nothing new in sports . Has nothing to do with quality of basketball on the court or mistreatment of women. Those platforms are B.S. dont forget the most important factor again with all pro sports. It's all about making money. In fact , that's pretty much the whole way of everything you see on your phone, tv , computer and all forms of media. Let's dont lie to ourselves, I'm not complaining about, I don't have a problemwith, Not saying that's right , just a fact we all live in.
Yes too many menwomen...they need to make up there mind
Distraction...