When I first got into Adventism, one thing that attracted me to it is that the SDA church was united and they pretty much believed the same things. Found out it wasn't true. By the way, Mr. Lake, you look a little gaunt. I suggest a cheeseburger and some fries, deep fried in some refined coconut oil, of course. 😁
That's not necessary to go after people based upon looks. Myles gets the same treatment because of tattoos and like me the hairline. You can debate the position, but when you have to focus on someone's looks, then you are bringing emotion into the discussion. It's a natural thing to do but Jesus never disagreed with someone and then attacked their looks.
@@Donatello-b4x You make the mistake that criticism or observation equals emotionalism. I was trying to be a little un-serious in my cheeseburger advice, but the rest of what I wrote is just an observance and a statement of fact. One thing many of these vegan and vegetarian Adventists have in common is their gaunt, unhealthy look. I would say the same thing to any family member who looked unhealthy. As a health professional, I would say it to any patient who looked like the skin was pulled tight over their face. So yes, I will focus on the looks when it involves obedience to the same religion that holds up Ellen White as the authoritative source of "health" and her as the spirit of prophecy. Thanks!
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you are like whitewashed tombs that look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and all kinds of filth." ~ Matthew 23 : 27
They even use the same arguments even if they are debunked, and they will interpret Scripture through a heretical lense to try and justify their stance even when said Scriptures debunk their heresy.
Question does “love reality” have the gospel correct. I’ve only watched a bit of what they believe but Ted calls them a cult group and goes dangers of “Once Saved Always Saved” as if ppl are saved by Jesus sacred sacrifice of all sins for all time on the cross & cried “It is Finished”, the curtain to inner sanctuary is torn open, earthquakes rocks the temple. Then he’s buried & rose from death to life on the 3rd day conquering sun & death. Bibles clear if you confess with your tongue & believe in your heart that Jesus saved you from the wages of your sin & he is Lord! That you are saved, sealed by the Holy Spirit & born again just like Jesus was telling Nicodemus in John 3:1-15. BUT We are saved for good works God had prepared for us to do in advance. So, SDA’s 0:160:16 clearly don’t understand the gospel & are even like all sinners rebellious to accepting it! From TH-cam it looks like SDA church is an absolute mess right now with so much infighting & One group labeling themselves as arbiter of truth when they are all wrong if they try & mix any of Ellen whites teachings into their beliefs especially when held above Bible which is what you see all the TH-camrs doing. All but “Love Reality” go to Ellen Whites writings to prove a point. What’s your opinion on this? Is their a group of believers emerging from church with true gospel message or are they all off in different ways?
@@Veritas20008 Love Reality is pretty wishy-washy when it comes to doctrine. I haven’t found Ted’s analysis of them to be that accurate. However, what is accurate, is his observation that it departs from Adventist orthodoxy. We can’t really speak about all of the individuals involved with the group as to whether or not they are born again people. I’m sure some of them are. Everything I’ve seen from them, including their website, is clearly a modernist packaging with a very youthful target to try and shift Adventism in a different direction, but only in some areas. This has been tried before and, while I admire the effort, it doesn’t change the fact that Adventism is a system. It’s a package deal. I get most SDAs don’t understand this or see it that way. But that ignorance doesn’t change reality (no pun intended). You alter that framework and it’s pillars and you lose the thing itself. There is no Adventism without the fundamental pillars that uphold it. And I get the sense from LR that they try and reject some of those pillars to try and hybrid-I’ve as a sort of evangelical effort.
@@SolaScriptura21 “mainstream” considers the conservatives to be “extreme” and “fringe.” When in actuality the conservatives simply understand Adventism as a system, not a buffet line. The “mainstream” tries to do the whole “we’re Christian’s just like you, brother. We’re the same, for real” schtick.
All of John 17 was Jesus praying to God The Father, that His Disciples may be in Unity as Jesus and God were unified. Well, that was not always what happened; the Disciples, after all, were human, like the rest of us. If they presented a united front, "the world" may have listened a bit better. Adventism is all over the place; even in the "Main Stream" there are hidden rocks and drop offs. Dare to disagree or question an SDA, the face scrunches and words are not so nice. Ellie lifted a prayer to The Father here, or odd pieces of it. When one dares to think differently, does anyone try to see the different vantage point, or just prepare the exit chute. Des Ford's fate was sealed prior to Glacier View. Ellie doesn't even keep her stories straight; or if she did, her "compilers did not." "1888 Writings," what is that? A mishmash of all the leftover pieces that are too good to toss, but should be glued in somewhere? How can there be a One and Only Main Stream, when the original Brain Bubbles from EGW emerged, popping all over every corner of the Universe. Look to Unity with Godl
Thank you. The title "1888 Materials" also caught my critical attention. Since when does a prophetic writer, supposedly guided step by step by God, end up with a collection that is not part of a thematic arc and thereby having a category and title that is definitive? I agree that Adventism is all over the place. From its beginning to now it has been a farrago of disagreements and scandals, leading to more breakaway groups than almost any other denomination.
This already happened weeks ago. SDA Pastor vs: Christian: The First Day Sabbath | Part 1 th-cam.com/users/livePT8p3-fYhkA?feature=share Part 2 is coming in a couple weeks.
What's your thoughts on this verse? John 5:18 ESV [18] This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God. What exactly is the relationship between sin being transgression of the law, Jesus not being a siner, but somehow still breaking the sabbath? I'm just genuinely confused
Miles almost everything you said is not biblical you don't take a direct reavalation from GOD so please have some manners with your christian friends...🤦
Please try to end your videos in a friendly way and not cut them off without any warning. It's not somehow p o l i t e. I mean, there are many ways to end videos to info4m the viewers that you've come to the end of what you were talking about. Thanks, and God bless you!
@@kimartist Because, donchaknow, if he rudely cuts people off even though it's a clip from a live stream, then it shows he's got no style and if he's got no style he's got no message and if he did have a message then it gets lost in the bad styling but if he had good style then he has good message and he wouldn't be rude and everybody everywhere would believe his message because he has good style, which means that Adventists would flock to see his wonderful style and be convicted about the cult they're in and they would all leave that forsaken house of cards and praise God because the right styling led them out of Babylon. Or something like that.
@@kimartist "Advensplaining" I like that. There's a lot I am not good at, but I am real good at Advensplaining. I shall use your term a lot going forward!
Please, sir, stop cutting off your videos like that. It's a bit rude! It takes nothing to say, well, see you in another video or thanks forbwatch, this is what I just want to say. I mean, there are so many way to end videos that info4m the viewers that you've come to the end of the video. God bless you, and we are all learning.
4:12 - Facts!!!
When I first got into Adventism, one thing that attracted me to it is that the SDA church was united and they pretty much believed the same things. Found out it wasn't true. By the way, Mr. Lake, you look a little gaunt. I suggest a cheeseburger and some fries, deep fried in some refined coconut oil, of course. 😁
That's not necessary to go after people based upon looks. Myles gets the same treatment because of tattoos and like me the hairline. You can debate the position, but when you have to focus on someone's looks, then you are bringing emotion into the discussion. It's a natural thing to do but Jesus never disagreed with someone and then attacked their looks.
@@Donatello-b4x
You make the mistake that criticism or observation equals emotionalism. I was trying to be a little un-serious in my cheeseburger advice, but the rest of what I wrote is just an observance and a statement of fact. One thing many of these vegan and vegetarian Adventists have in common is their gaunt, unhealthy look. I would say the same thing to any family member who looked unhealthy. As a health professional, I would say it to any patient who looked like the skin was pulled tight over their face. So yes, I will focus on the looks when it involves obedience to the same religion that holds up Ellen White as the authoritative source of "health" and her as the spirit of prophecy.
Thanks!
@@rdwnpv So double down on attacking people because of looks rather than the actual content in the video being presented? Got it.
"Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites, because you are like whitewashed tombs that look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men’s bones and all kinds of filth."
~ Matthew 23 : 27
🙄 Yeah Jesus never attacked anyone based on looks.
In all the false religious, sdadventits are the most fanatics and most défensive. They are sent to be arguing for their fase prophetess everywhere
All scripture leads to ellen white,,,, they want you to love her like they do.
"sdaadventits"? 🤣
They even use the same arguments even if they are debunked, and they will interpret Scripture through a heretical lense to try and justify their stance even when said Scriptures debunk their heresy.
"Stadventits" sounds like a disease one catches by being a Sadventist (my personal abbreviation for "Seventh-Day Adventist")...
*DID YOU KNOW?? *The first Catholic to be murdered by Sabbath keepers was Christ, Himself!*
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Question does “love reality” have the gospel correct. I’ve only watched a bit of what they believe but Ted calls them a cult group and goes dangers of “Once Saved Always Saved” as if ppl are saved by Jesus sacred sacrifice of all sins for all time on the cross & cried “It is Finished”, the curtain to inner sanctuary is torn open, earthquakes rocks the temple.
Then he’s buried & rose from death to life on the 3rd day conquering sun & death.
Bibles clear if you confess with your tongue & believe in your heart that Jesus saved you from the wages of your sin & he is Lord! That you are saved, sealed by the Holy Spirit & born again just like Jesus was telling Nicodemus in John 3:1-15.
BUT
We are saved for good works God had prepared for us to do in advance.
So, SDA’s 0:16 0:16 clearly don’t understand the gospel & are even like all sinners rebellious to accepting it!
From TH-cam it looks like SDA church is an absolute mess right now with so much infighting & One group labeling themselves as arbiter of truth when they are all wrong if they try & mix any of Ellen whites teachings into their beliefs especially when held above Bible which is what you see all the TH-camrs doing.
All but “Love Reality” go to Ellen Whites writings to prove a point.
What’s your opinion on this? Is their a group of believers emerging from church with true gospel message or are they all off in different ways?
@@Veritas20008 Love Reality is pretty wishy-washy when it comes to doctrine. I haven’t found Ted’s analysis of them to be that accurate. However, what is accurate, is his observation that it departs from Adventist orthodoxy.
We can’t really speak about all of the individuals involved with the group as to whether or not they are born again people. I’m sure some of them are.
Everything I’ve seen from them, including their website, is clearly a modernist packaging with a very youthful target to try and shift Adventism in a different direction, but only in some areas. This has been tried before and, while I admire the effort, it doesn’t change the fact that Adventism is a system. It’s a package deal. I get most SDAs don’t understand this or see it that way. But that ignorance doesn’t change reality (no pun intended). You alter that framework and it’s pillars and you lose the thing itself. There is no Adventism without the fundamental pillars that uphold it. And I get the sense from LR that they try and reject some of those pillars to try and hybrid-I’ve as a sort of evangelical effort.
What is the difference between mainstream and conservative adventism?
@@SolaScriptura21 “mainstream” considers the conservatives to be “extreme” and “fringe.” When in actuality the conservatives simply understand Adventism as a system, not a buffet line. The “mainstream” tries to do the whole “we’re Christian’s just like you, brother. We’re the same, for real” schtick.
@@answeringadventism theologically not much different?
@@SolaScriptura21
Same cursed gospel and angel god called Michael.
@@nonconformist4802 i'm not saying jesus is michael, but isn't jesus called the angel of the of lord and the old testament?
@@RemingtonTripp
I am not here to convert you, that is the job of the Holy Spirit.
Your job is to read the Bible without Ellèn White.
All of John 17 was Jesus praying to God The Father, that His Disciples may be in Unity as Jesus and God were unified. Well, that was not always what happened; the Disciples, after all, were human, like the rest of us. If they presented a united front, "the world" may have listened a bit better. Adventism is all over the place; even in the "Main Stream" there are hidden rocks and drop offs. Dare to disagree or question an SDA, the face scrunches and words are not so nice. Ellie lifted a prayer to The Father here, or odd pieces of it. When one dares to think differently, does anyone try to see the different vantage point, or just prepare the exit chute. Des Ford's fate was sealed prior to Glacier View. Ellie doesn't even keep her stories straight; or if she did, her "compilers did not." "1888 Writings," what is that? A mishmash of all the leftover pieces that are too good to toss, but should be glued in somewhere? How can there be a One and Only Main Stream, when the original Brain Bubbles from EGW emerged, popping all over every corner of the Universe. Look to Unity with Godl
Thank you.
The title "1888 Materials" also caught my critical attention.
Since when does a prophetic writer, supposedly guided step by step by God, end up with a collection that is not part of a thematic arc and thereby having
a category and title that is definitive?
I agree that Adventism is all over the place.
From its beginning to now it has been a farrago of disagreements and scandals, leading to more breakaway groups than almost any other denomination.
Myles i have been seeing your new videos but have not yet seen ur reply to pastor jeff on the Sabbath.pls can u do that
And also stop cutting the videos
@@MargaretAshigbadidummy, these are clips taken from longer live streams.
This already happened weeks ago.
SDA Pastor vs: Christian: The First Day Sabbath | Part 1
th-cam.com/users/livePT8p3-fYhkA?feature=share
Part 2 is coming in a couple weeks.
@@MargaretAshigbadi chopping up Adventist videos is all he knows how to do and misquoting Ellen White
@@robertbaker231 rent free
What's your thoughts on this verse?
John 5:18 ESV
[18] This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
What exactly is the relationship between sin being transgression of the law, Jesus not being a siner, but somehow still breaking the sabbath? I'm just genuinely confused
@@RemingtonTripp answeringadventism.com/did-jesus-break-the-sabbath/
I LOVE THE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST CHURCH WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL-I LOVE IT TO THE UTMOST!
Miles almost everything you said is not biblical you don't take a direct reavalation from GOD so please have some manners with your christian friends...🤦
OK, but we have a controversy overview so we do have controversy to talk about.
Please try to end your videos in a friendly way and not cut them off without any warning. It's not somehow p o l i t e. I mean, there are many ways to end videos to info4m the viewers that you've come to the end of what you were talking about. Thanks, and God bless you!
@@markrobby7136 this is a clip from a full stream, sir. If you made it to the end you should have seen this. Go watch the whole stream.
Oh buh-ruth-er. We're providing stylistic critiques now? What does this have to do with ANYTHING?
@@kimartist
Because, donchaknow, if he rudely cuts people off even though it's a clip from a live stream, then it shows he's got no style and if he's got no style he's got no message and if he did have a message then it gets lost in the bad styling but if he had good style then he has good message and he wouldn't be rude and everybody everywhere would believe his message because he has good style, which means that Adventists would flock to see his wonderful style and be convicted about the cult they're in and they would all leave that forsaken house of cards and praise God because the right styling led them out of Babylon.
Or something like that.
@@rdwnpv LOLOLOLOLOL thanks for Advensplaining that! I never would have known 🤣🤣🤣
@@kimartist
"Advensplaining"
I like that. There's a lot I am not good at, but I am real good at Advensplaining. I shall use your term a lot going forward!
Please, sir, stop cutting off your videos like that. It's a bit rude! It takes nothing to say, well, see you in another video or thanks forbwatch, this is what I just want to say. I mean, there are so many way to end videos that info4m the viewers that you've come to the end of the video. God bless you, and we are all learning.
It's a grab. Pay 4.99/mo. if you want to hear the full video. My understanding anyway.
@@JacquelynHerron why lie
stop posting this multiple times
@@JacquelynHerron Your understanding is all emotion and no fact.
Myles just proves everything with his little five minute videos 😅 hilarious I love it keep it coming
I guess rent is due today.
@Donatello-b4x how dumb