Rifle is awesome but take a minute to appreciate his organization in the shelving behind him.. awesome. Like a store front almost lol. This channel is the best, thank you very much for making these videos for us.
What I really enjoy this video about the barrel break in procedure. During the 60 and early 70s when I was a young lad the information available to guide us was not obtainable as is today. Too much folk lore explained the proper way of handling a new rifle only to lead to destruction of that barrel. Much appreciate your work X-Ring.
I’m a new to this and just shooting a CZ457 for now but always learning about center fire for when that day comes. Have to say that your comment on how to use the squeeze bag was eye opening…I have one, and didn’t know that’s how to use it. Thank you!! LOL
It blows my mind that you can have a hand tight barrel with a set screw and have the most bullet proof system out there. Thanks for the review of the Proof stainless barrel, I may pick one up for my origin.
It’s called good engineering which is why the AI is wha it is. Hands down the AI is hard to beat. The AI was highly sought after by the US mil even the 338 lap mag cartridge sets its beyond that of anything the US currently fields under 50cal, but can’t purchase due to the restrictive Remington contractural arrangements that it set itself itself into during the 80s.
Don’t be scared to swap between barrels, what I did with mine was pick what I considered the primary barrel which for me is my 18” 308 proof that I use for hunting suppressed, completely zero that barrel with both the scope and in your ballistic app or kestrel, swap to a different barrel and for that new barrel, record in your app and or kestrel the new offset in zero per that caliber in both elevation and windage and do the same per each barrel. We tested this at 3/4 of a mile going from my 6.5 creedmoor barrel to my 300 Norma barrel and 7mm mag barrel and was able to get first round impacts with each at that distance which is pretty impressive by just swapping the mag, bolt, barrel and to the barrel profile in my kestrel and AB app. Main thing is to make sure you keep the shoulder on the barrel and breech face where the shoulder mates up free of dirt and dust. If you’ve shot in a condition that’s dusty without a can on definitely take off the hand guard and wipe down the front of the action before doing a barrel swap.
X, first of your videos I've watched as it came up as a suggestion given my love of modern sporting rifles, esp. of the 6.5 Creedmoor variety. Want to pass along my complements for the quality of blending both the technical and practical into something interesting AND informational. And for me, being succinct and using appropriate grammar is very refreshing. Look forward to reviewing more of your channel's offerings. All the best.
When the barrel moves upward when snugging it to the action face is because of the thread class fit difference . The barrel will hang down a little , more noticable at the muzzle, and then when the shoulder of the barrel snugs against the action face it trues up . The barrel will hang down before tightening because of the play in the thread tolerances so its not really an issue.
Ray I have a question about the patches you are using. What is the size ,brand and vendor ? Also what calibers do you use these on ? I am looking to clean from .223 to 9mm to 308 any info would help Thanks Carl
Nice setup, How is the Accuracy International Multi-Caliber changing process compared to the Desert Tech SRS Multi-Caliber process, and how does it repeat zero?
It is extremely fast. I just did another video switching from 6mm to 6.5 Creedmoor. One bolt spin off the old and re torque the one bolt back to 45inch lbs
Thank you for your videos on barrel break in. I noticed that on your TAC 3 video a few months ago you used copper remover during barrel break in. In this video, you only use a carbon residue remover (Hoppes) only. Is this because it’s a clean stainless steel barrel and you are trying to promote copper to achieve equilibrium? Why is the procedure different for the barrel in the TAC 3? Thank you for your time!
Is this "breaking in" process only because it's a precision rife or do you recommend it for every gun? For instance, I have an AR I have yet to shoot. Should I do this process for it? Thanks.
Man, I wish my rifle could fire 3 shots with only cycling the bolt once (14:58)... LoL 🤣😂😆 Great videos as always! Keep'em coming 👍 By the way, what "squeeze bags" are you using?
Hi Ray. Great video as always. I'd just like to mention that seeing your new barrel "torque" away as you barely snugged it up against the receiver is something that just didn't seem right. If your 6.5 barrel doesn't do that then neither should that new 6mm barrel. It seems to me the mating surfaces should make contact at exactly the same time. It looks as thought the shoulder of the new barrel hit's "high" against the perfectly trued A.I. action and would then cause the barrel threads to actually try to "angle" their way in within tolerances between the action and the barrel mating threads thus causing the entire barrel to yaw like we saw it do. I realize that it's not tightened to any great degree but it still doesn't seem right. I don't mean to criticize but even great equipment and manufacturing can have flaws and I'm thinking that barrel isn't quite right no matter how well it shoots. Thanks again for showing us some great equipment. Wess
Thanks Wess. It only did it the one time when I first installed it. It spins up perfectly every time now. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
After watching this video, I wonder if you thought of doing a video of your top picks for guns in their respected categories and limited by price range.
I have this rifle in 6.5 creedmoor. Sadly here in the UK the people in charge have banned this caliber, probably due to it being too accurate. So now we'll all have to apply for a different caliber barrel which aint gonna be cheap 😒
X-RING thanks I seen in the video you are using Tremor 3 radical I did hear of the benefits of that option. I have not yet tried To use it but of the images I have seen they look beneficial. I am looking for my next scope with those options thanks for making the video have a great day :)
X-RING I appreciate the reply! Rocksett requires a very clean surface and at least 24 hours to cure before use. Acetone is the preferred cleaning agent. Maybe you just had a bad batch of it?
Hey Josh, I ordered it in the large commercial bottles. Everything was also cleaned and prepped properly. I had too many Thunderbeast brakes come off when removing the suppressor so I quit using the stuff. Tried it with zero success. Maybe it was a bad batch. 🤷♂️
I’ve never heard of there being a difference in the chamber threads in their short action rifles. I’ve ordered 3 and never had an issue. Did I just get lucky?
Well, I called them first and gave them my model. I was informed that I needed the M30 instead of the M27. No biggie, we got it resolved and they were a big help.
Hey Neil, great question. Those are called suppressor covers and they are a must have. Suppressors get hot very quickly and they produce mirage. They help to mitigate some of the mirage coming off the top of the suppressor.
Question ray why what is the advantage going from 6.5 to 6 mm Creedmoor if anything 6.5 is superior second the accuracy international Rifles shoot lights out I own two proof research barrels there is no way in hell they match the precision of the factory bartline barrels
Hey Frank. I agree about the accuracy of the AI barrels. However, you can’t get an AI 6mm Creedmoor from them so I had to go Proof. It’s all about time, tracking and recovery for first round hits. I think the 6mm will be quite a bit faster than the 6.5. We will have to see.
I bought some of the Prime 115gr 6mm CM. It was 7.4 mils at 1k at the Clinton House. Shot pretty good, but I did notice the CF barrel did’t shoot near as tight as my AINA barrel. I am using it for night hunting coyotes, so the weight savings is nice.
Maybe I'm a noob or just an idiot but it looked like he took 3 straight shots without running the bolt on a bolt gun? Did I miss something or what is this Magic going on here?? Anyone that can help me understand would be much appreciated
Right now I am shooting factory Hornady ELD match. When I hand load I use either the ELD 147 or A-Tip 153. My primary powder is H4350 but also have RL-16. The brass is either Starline small primer pocket or large in the Hornady brass. Hope this helps and thank you for watching.
Never broke in a barrel aside from initial clean. Sight in throw a couple groups about 20rnds clean again and done. Plenty of rifles that shoot 1/4moa from all different manufacturers. I dont believe the theory that you are going to ruin a barrel without a precise ritual for break in. Most important thing is the first clean to make sure you are not shooting over debris and forming it into your barrel
Rifle is awesome but take a minute to appreciate his organization in the shelving behind him.. awesome. Like a store front almost lol. This channel is the best, thank you very much for making these videos for us.
I just love watching and soaking in all of your wisdom ... that's a beautiful rifle Ray. like always thanks for sharing🤗😁👍🇺🇸🦅
What I really enjoy this video about the barrel break in procedure. During the 60 and early 70s when I was a young lad the information available to guide us was not obtainable as is today. Too much folk lore explained the proper way of handling a new rifle only to lead to destruction of that barrel. Much appreciate your work X-Ring.
Thank you George and thanks for watching the channel! I appreciate it.
Such an outstanding setup. Lots of awesome tips. That AI barrel swap is awesome. Thumbs up big time 👍👍👍
I’m a new to this and just shooting a CZ457 for now but always learning about center fire for when that day comes.
Have to say that your comment on how to use the squeeze bag was eye opening…I have one, and didn’t know that’s how to use it. Thank you!! LOL
W🍀w awesome shooting, gentlemen! One day I’ll switch up my .338LM to 6.5CM barrel. Thanks for sharing!
damn! those results are really good! sick .24moa group! very nice! that accuracy will get even better with some more barrel brake in.. nice work!
Elfster's Rifles and Reloading Thanks Todd! That was a really good explanation and demo on the chat today!
Great review. Nice shooting. XRing hitting XRing on paper. What a shot. Well done sir. 👍
I had just bought 2 of the Proof CF 6cm barrels from mile high a couple weeks ago. One for the AX, and one for the AXMC.
It blows my mind that you can have a hand tight barrel with a set screw and have the most bullet proof system out there. Thanks for the review of the Proof stainless barrel, I may pick one up for my origin.
It’s called good engineering which is why the AI is wha it is. Hands down the AI is hard to beat.
The AI was highly sought after by the US mil even the 338 lap mag cartridge sets its beyond that of anything the US currently fields under 50cal, but can’t purchase due to the restrictive Remington contractural arrangements that it set itself itself into during the 80s.
Great video thank you for sharing your knowledge keep the videos coming
My pleasure Andrew. I know its a long video but it has some good break in advice.
Don’t be scared to swap between barrels, what I did with mine was pick what I considered the primary barrel which for me is my 18” 308 proof that I use for hunting suppressed, completely zero that barrel with both the scope and in your ballistic app or kestrel, swap to a different barrel and for that new barrel, record in your app and or kestrel the new offset in zero per that caliber in both elevation and windage and do the same per each barrel. We tested this at 3/4 of a mile going from my 6.5 creedmoor barrel to my 300 Norma barrel and 7mm mag barrel and was able to get first round impacts with each at that distance which is pretty impressive by just swapping the mag, bolt, barrel and to the barrel profile in my kestrel and AB app. Main thing is to make sure you keep the shoulder on the barrel and breech face where the shoulder mates up free of dirt and dust. If you’ve shot in a condition that’s dusty without a can on definitely take off the hand guard and wipe down the front of the action before doing a barrel swap.
That barrel swap is way to easy without head spacing.. tempted to convert a 243 savage to the 6 creed. Nice work.
X, first of your videos I've watched as it came up as a suggestion given my love of modern sporting rifles, esp. of the 6.5 Creedmoor variety. Want to pass along my complements for the quality of blending both the technical and practical into something interesting AND informational. And for me, being succinct and using appropriate grammar is very refreshing. Look forward to reviewing more of your channel's offerings. All the best.
When the barrel moves upward when snugging it to the action face is because of the thread class fit difference . The barrel will hang down a little , more noticable at the muzzle, and then when the shoulder of the barrel snugs against the action face it trues up . The barrel will hang down before tightening because of the play in the thread tolerances so its not really an issue.
That AI is one smooth running rifle. Thanks guys for the video.
One cool set up there with the phone recording as that rifle is so awesome....Good stuff....
Ray, It looks like you have more ammo in stock than most gun stores now!
Great Video .. Not interested in either 6.5 or 6mm creed more but the info is still very handy
Hi.....I just subscribed !! Can you tell me what scope/reticle/power you are using ? I love the sight picture,
Ray I have a question about the patches you are using. What is the size ,brand and vendor ? Also what calibers do you use these on ? I am looking to clean from .223 to 9mm to 308 any info would help Thanks Carl
Good job fellas! Very informative and well presented. The longer ranges you will have to put some SWAG in it!! Bwahahaha.
Nice setup, How is the Accuracy International Multi-Caliber changing process compared to the Desert Tech SRS Multi-Caliber process, and how does it repeat zero?
It is extremely fast. I just did another video switching from 6mm to 6.5 Creedmoor. One bolt spin off the old and re torque the one bolt back to 45inch lbs
Thank you for your videos on barrel break in. I noticed that on your TAC 3 video a few months ago you used copper remover during barrel break in. In this video, you only use a carbon residue remover (Hoppes) only. Is this because it’s a clean stainless steel barrel and you are trying to promote copper to achieve equilibrium? Why is the procedure different for the barrel in the TAC 3? Thank you for your time!
Any issues feeding 6 creed? I just sent my mags out to ai to make sure there in speck. My Aiax has been sending 6 creed right in the feed ramp.
Very nice ray
Excellent shooting Ray ! Thank for sharing ! 👍
I had no idea you had to clean the bore for a “break-in period”. Does this mean I should be doing the same for every new complete rifle I purchase?
Is this "breaking in" process only because it's a precision rife or do you recommend it for every gun? For instance, I have an AR I have yet to shoot. Should I do this process for it? Thanks.
Only for precision type rifles with premium barrels.
@@XRING Thanks. I sorta figured, but thought I'd ask. lol
Good stuff Ray 👍
I need this rifle!!! ok maybe I don't need it but I really really want it!!!
I think my needs & wants r mixed up cause they feel the same 🤔
I keep watching this. I really want this.
You don't need to spend $8k on an AI to get a great rifle
Man, I wish my rifle could fire 3 shots with only cycling the bolt once (14:58)... LoL 🤣😂😆
Great videos as always! Keep'em coming 👍
By the way, what "squeeze bags" are you using?
Great video.
If i want to covert an AI atx 308 to 300 win mag what will i need to change?
This is a AXSA? And you can swap barrels on all AXSA? Thanks
This man will Win in Colorado +2 mile Shoot the AI is one of the best rifles out there.
Hi great vid, what about head space and confirming this with go - no go gauges, thanks
Nice Video & Great shooting brother! Carry on
When you was shooting one and then running patch through cleaning each shot was that for powder or was it copper solvent patch.
Both. I’m basically trying to get everything out before the next shot.
Good stuff man
Thanks Nick! I hope you are doing well.
Curious what your thoughts are between the AX and AXSR?
You are a wealth of knowledge. Will you take me under your wing lol?
I've not yet found the button that makes my AX a semi auto ? .. nice lol 🤣
Would attaching chassis weights reduce the recoil further and make follow up shot target acquisition faster?
It would, but the rifle is already heavy enough for a ruck match. Don’t want to add any more.
Nice content, what ATACR is that ? If you don't mind me asking !
Thank you! It is the 7-35 with Tremor 3 reticle.
Thanks for Nice video what color is on the rifle?
Hi Ray. Great video as always. I'd just like to mention that seeing your new barrel "torque" away as you barely snugged it up against the receiver is something that just didn't seem right. If your 6.5 barrel doesn't do that then neither should that new 6mm barrel. It seems to me the mating surfaces should make contact at exactly the same time. It looks as thought the shoulder of the new barrel hit's "high" against the perfectly trued A.I. action and would then cause the barrel threads to actually try to "angle" their way in within tolerances between the action and the barrel mating threads thus causing the entire barrel to yaw like we saw it do. I realize that it's not tightened to any great degree but it still doesn't seem right. I don't mean to criticize but even great equipment and manufacturing can have flaws and I'm thinking that barrel isn't quite right no matter how well it shoots. Thanks again for showing us some great equipment. Wess
Thanks Wess. It only did it the one time when I first installed it. It spins up perfectly every time now. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.
Really enjoy your vids....cheers!
Greetings, can you provide the manufacturer of the squeeze bags??
Thank you in advance
Why not get a 6.5cm barrel with 1/7 twist and shoot 108gr bullet? Same brass, less recoil.
Beautiful rifle what type of model is it?
Great video, could you let me know the name of the device attached in the scope? Thanks
I am guessing you mean the digital level? If so, it is the LRA “long range arms” send it.
X-RING apologies for not clarifying well, I mean the device that allows you to see the scope's reticule as a camera
Gaston Pinillos I highly recommend the Tactacam unit. The one I use is the 5.0.
X-RING perfect!! Thanks for your time. Regards
After watching this video, I wonder if you thought of doing a video of your top picks for guns in their respected categories and limited by price range.
Do you need to check headspace on the new barrel?
I have this rifle in 6.5 creedmoor. Sadly here in the UK the people in charge have banned this caliber, probably due to it being too accurate. So now we'll all have to apply for a different caliber barrel which aint gonna be cheap 😒
Wow! Banning a caliber? That is crazy.
What type of scope are you using model by nightforce right?
It is the Nightforce ATACR 7-35 with Tremor 3 reticle
X-RING thanks I seen in the video you are using Tremor 3 radical I did hear of the benefits of that option. I have not yet tried To use it but of the images I have seen they look beneficial. I am looking for my next scope with those options thanks for making the video have a great day :)
what happened if that 4mm thread wears out?
Would love to own one, maybe someday... One BEAUTIFUL rifle.
Question: Do you own a firearm store?
You should be using rocksett for a thread locker on muzzle devices that will be hosting suppressors... just an FYI
Rocksett is horrible. Every time I have used it, it has failed.
X-RING I appreciate the reply! Rocksett requires a very clean surface and at least 24 hours to cure before use. Acetone is the preferred cleaning agent. Maybe you just had a bad batch of it?
Hey Josh, I ordered it in the large commercial bottles. Everything was also cleaned and prepped properly. I had too many Thunderbeast brakes come off when removing the suppressor so I quit using the stuff. Tried it with zero success. Maybe it was a bad batch. 🤷♂️
I’ve never heard of there being a difference in the chamber threads in their short action rifles. I’ve ordered 3 and never had an issue. Did I just get lucky?
Well, I called them first and gave them my model. I was informed that I needed the M30 instead of the M27. No biggie, we got it resolved and they were a big help.
X-RING thanks
I been looking at the videos But I am unable to see the build for this set up. Would you be able to point me to them?
Love the barrel! Chrono results on the next one ?
great content
Thank you and thanks for watching.
Why the change just wondering?
Why do you have the spongy cloth around the suppressor?
Hey Neil, great question. Those are called suppressor covers and they are a must have. Suppressors get hot very quickly and they produce mirage. They help to mitigate some of the mirage coming off the top of the suppressor.
Question ray why what is the advantage going from 6.5 to 6 mm Creedmoor if anything 6.5 is superior second the accuracy international Rifles shoot lights out I own two proof research barrels there is no way in hell they match the precision of the factory bartline barrels
Hey Frank. I agree about the accuracy of the AI barrels. However, you can’t get an AI 6mm Creedmoor from them so I had to go Proof.
It’s all about time, tracking and recovery for first round hits. I think the 6mm will be quite a bit faster than the 6.5. We will have to see.
I bought some of the Prime 115gr 6mm CM. It was 7.4 mils at 1k at the Clinton House. Shot pretty good, but I did notice the CF barrel did’t shoot near as tight as my AINA barrel. I am using it for night hunting coyotes, so the weight savings is nice.
Thank You Sirs! This was efficient! Pinwheel it!
Maybe I'm a noob or just an idiot but it looked like he took 3 straight shots without running the bolt on a bolt gun? Did I miss something or what is this Magic going on here?? Anyone that can help me understand would be much appreciated
Hey Mark, I usually clip the delay between shots.
@@XRING ohh ok makes sense I couldn't even notice any editing delays or anything so well done and thanks for the reply
Are you buying factory or you reloading what powders primers ect thanks
Right now I am shooting factory Hornady ELD match.
When I hand load I use either the ELD 147 or A-Tip 153. My primary powder is H4350 but also have RL-16. The brass is either Starline small primer pocket or large in the Hornady brass. Hope this helps and thank you for watching.
Rl 16 Hornady brass and 108eld has done good for me
Do you remember what power you were set on shooting at 100 yards?
I typically keep it around 15-18 power at 100.
Who makes your shooters bags?
I use Sand Sock Gear Primarily. However, I do use the TAB gear and Armageddon Gear bags as well.
X-RING Thanks! Great content by the way!
I have a stock CZ 455 with a similar barrel change capability. I'll trade you straight over. What do you say?
I got 3 rolls of toilet paper and 2 4oz germx
6mm the best mm 👊😎🇺🇸 for paper
how do you stay so still on target?
Never broke in a barrel aside from initial clean. Sight in throw a couple groups about 20rnds clean again and done. Plenty of rifles that shoot 1/4moa from all different manufacturers. I dont believe the theory that you are going to ruin a barrel without a precise ritual for break in. Most important thing is the first clean to make sure you are not shooting over debris and forming it into your barrel
Nice stuff!!!
What about headspace?
Sweet!!! X-RING
Is it Olight? :)
This is 7/32 of Jerry’s ammo shelf straightened up…
Im here for the Yakimandu and Gyoza chat?
One Korean and the other is from Japan. Both good with soy sauce.
No bortech needed for copper?
Boretech after the video was shot. Not in the initial break in.
@@XRING gotcha! Great video
Why cerakote that barrel when you can have the rattle can mafia paint it up for you
🤣 LOL!!! Rick isn’t getting ANYWHERE near my stuff with his Krylon !
wish we could have suppressors in California, seems much nicer to shoot. so many ridiculous laws here
First shot... GLASSES! lol. I'm half blind, so I'm over cautionary to the eyes
I really like your content but need target cam.
I use them now. That was an old video.
Nice me like
Thank you !
They don't make this rifle in 6.5 creed anymore.
Lol 6.5 to 6mm I'll stay with .243 lol 😆