you know what? im just gonna pretend that this is canon. This was amazing and did the story justice. The voice acting and dude the animation, especially for classic sonic was all perfect i love your channel so much
I wish the game had been more like this! It made no sense for Tails to be so weak and helpless when he’s been an excellent fighter and resourceful on his own in the past.
@Lord Of Vengeance Tails just happens to be my favorite character so of course I'll do content with him on my channel. If that's a bother then you can check out my other stuff that doesn't have him, besides everything on my channel is fanfiction basically so I don't see how that's noteworthy here
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid that he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.That's why Tails doesn't remember him.
Finally finished up this little piece, kinda fitting it comes out on the month that Forces did XD I've long hated what Tails has become in the games and wanted to give this a rewrite, I hope you enjoy!
In the next Fiona's Saga episode, though I've been trying to close up some projects on my end so I can fully work on that one, so it will still be just a bit longer I'm afraid
I can never see myself writing a video about Tails, or even make Sonic content anymore. But I'm glad Sonic content creators like you are still out there, trying to fix what was broken.
This is the original tails of the adventures not the weak one of forces Edit: Holy Geez, I’m glad that many people are agree with me, Look at the likes xD
Adventure 1 Defeated Eggman & stopped a rocket bomb from destroying Station Square. Adventure 2 Defeated Eggman even when thinking Sonic died from the capsule explosion. Blame the Happy Tree Friends writers that nerfed Tails in Forces.
Yesssssss! This is how it should’ve been. I was expecting this type of cutscenes in Sonic Forces, but once again we were disappointed by SEGA. Tails’ character development was amazing until Sonic Team decided that jokes like “Baldy McNosehair” was more important than the stories in the games. Forces is a joke for trying to be serious when the series has taken a completely different direction. You nailed everyone’s personalities and even put Sonic being actually tortured unlike the game. Congratulations to you, my friend. That was one of the best animations I’ve seen not only for the characters’ movement, but also it was the greatest representation of what Sonic Forces needed to be.
This video was exactly what should have happen in the game i think sometimes the videos we make are better then the ones in the games it self so keep up the good work my friend.
Well I think it would be better when Tails fights Chaos on his own without Sonic-its time that he get some spotlight like the good old times- but this video is so much better then the real from Sonic Forces.
@@hakasek4052 So true.But the fans are also sometimes the worst.They like to write fanfics with Tails as a kind of helpless baby because Sonic can save him then. They want some Aww moments. Its always like"Someone is mean to Tails or hits him and he cries and Sonic saves him and hugs him and aww -_- Its good that Tails has many fans but some of them see Tails just as a kind of little cute puppy.
@@tailsprower117 I think those people grew up with a different version of tails. I grew up with a PS2 disc called Sonic Mega Collection Plus, and so most of the games I played were the Genesis and Game Gear games, which didn't really have much story, but the version of him on TV I grew up with was from Sonic X. That version of Tails was a mechanical genius, tough fighter who saved Sonic on the regular and not the other way around, and an awesome fighter pilot who had his own combination of the X-wing from Star Wars and the mechs from Macross. I loved that version of tails, but there is another version of the character from the older cartoon called "The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog", which today is most famous for The quote "SnooPINGASusalISee?" this version of Tails was a useless annoying Crybaby who would leap into Sonic's arms Scooby Doo style after a good thundercrack. I had never understood the Tails haters until I saw that show, If I grew up with that version I'd hate him too.
I love the swap in character roles when Classic Sonic pops up. Sonic takes care of Tails, usually, but when Tails is better suited in the world, he becomes Sonic's caretaker. I can also imagine that when Modern Sonic and Tails' meet, Tails is going to have a hard time not hovering protectively over him as well. Just love the role swap!
This how Tails should've been in Sonic Forces. In fact Sonic Forces really did mess up the cast, not only that but the game play was short, and they butchered Classic Sonic. At I mean I don't mind the OC's, but replacing Tails and Knuckles as sidekicks is just not a good thing to do when Tails and Knuckles have always been through Sonic's Adventure. Hopefully there's a Sonic Adventure remake and if that ever happens, maybe the creators will finally remember. But then again Sonic Cannons are always confusing.
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations,he is from Sonic Mania.
If you played Sonic Adventure 1 & 2. Sega/Sonic Team did knew what they were doing back then with Tails. Adventure 1 Defeated Eggman & stopped a rocket bomb from destroying Station Square. Adventure 2 Defeated Eggman even when thinking Sonic died from the capsule explosion. Blame the Happy Tree Friends writers that nerfed Tails in Forces.
This is *exactly* what Tails *should’ve been like* in Sonic Forces along with his story and Knuckles’ story. I did not know what the game developers were thinking when they made Sonic Forces. When ruining the gameplay, character development, and destroying Tails’ personality makes me wanna hate Forces for any given reason. I guess they never learned what Tails and Knuckles have been through with their own stories in Sonic Adventure. I remember where Tails went up against Chaos 4 and obliterated the living crap out of him, but I don’t think the developers remembered it. I definitely prefer Mania over Forces, but if there is ever a Sonic Adventure remake, I hope it’s everything what we wanted from the original version. This video means a lot to me. Thank you for making this.
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid,that he can fail everyone,he can die, especially that he was in depression after Sonic's fail.He doesn't know Classic, because this Sonic is from Sonic Mania.
Sonic is like a Spider-Man.His joke's is defensive reaction and that's why we see him okay.And the torments are deferent: physical and psychological.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps feeling better.And he was captured in Unleashed, when he was in his Super Form,so he got use to it.
SonicStar917 Did you know about Sonic Forces AU known as Overclocked where Eggman betrays Infinite and Neo Metal Sonic gives him the overclocked Phantom Ruby?
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.Tails doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because he is not from Sonic Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.
Sonic is like Spider-Man.His jokes is defensive reaction.The torment can be different: physical and psychologica.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps him, like Spiderman.
YES, JUSTICE FOR TAILS! Your rewritten scene is far superior to how Tails was portrayed in Forces! Props to you for making Tails a badass again, this was a really well made video! Of course, I don’t expect anything less :) Edit: YOU MADE SONIC LOOK LIKE HE WAS ACTUALLY TORTURED AS WELL? Wow, you’re just strengthening all of Forces’ weak points! I really wish Sega would have expanded on that more.
Aww I know I always say this, but thank you so much for the heart! I hope you know that your appreciation for your subscribers is really admirable. Love ya and what you do :)
Thank you Mike for a better version of this scene from Sonic Forces I really hated what's been to Tails lately so I'm glad and extremely happy on how this turned out and if u do more scenes from Sonic Force I'll be super happy to see another 1 and I'll bet others will two
Tails fighting Chaos > Tails not even trying to fight Chaos And Sonic actually looks like he's been tortured for months in this. Edit: Someone should make a mod to replace the "Sonic, help me!" cutscene with this video, even if it'd be out of place. Edit 2: I just realised that this video is also more consistent with the way Classic Sonic enters the portal in the True Ending of Sonic Mania.
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.That's why Tails doesn't remember him.
Sonic is like Spider -Man.His jokes is defensive reaction.The torments can be different: physical and psychological.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps him, like Spiderman
@@Kirilltv818 Sega have more recently said there is no Classic dimension, Classic Sonic is from the past, and Sonic Mania and Superstars are now set before Sonic Adventure instead. Also, Tails does remember Classic Sonic in Sonic Forces. And while Tails hasn't fought Chaos alone, I think he's fought stronger foes than Chaos 0 alone.
@@JonnySpec Again, Tails fought with Chaos 4 with Knuckles and Sonic.Stories of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Gamma and Big are happing in the same time.And that means Tails fought with Chaos with Knuckles and Sonic.I won't listen to this stupid thing,that Sonic Mania is canon.For my canon there is exists two universes: Classic and Modern.
What Forces should’ve been but SEGA decided to play it a bit TOO safe. Then again knowing the Sonic fan base they’d all criticize SEGA for taking Sonic into a “darker toned direction” if they didn’t play it safe.
True. Exactly, it's the fans (and the rush) who prevented Sega from being audacious. But with what Frontiers gave to us, there's hope to see scenes like that! :D
*Expectations vs Reality* They should have let us play as Tails to fight Chaos and then put the cut scene where tails is begging for Sonic to help him after he lost against Chaos. That would have given Tails the aspect that he at least TRIED but failed in the end!
@@unwithering5313 Yes but sonic team likes to make things confusing. Thats why some things are cannon and some things aren't. So maybe Tails fighting Chaos isnt cannon, but Chaos in general is cannon.
*Insert comment about how Tails should've been like this in Forces.* But all that aside, this is a great video; although, I always wonder who thought it was a good (and stupid) idea to make Tails a generic nerd and a coward who cries that Sonic is dead.... SERIOUSLY, WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA!?
Hahahaha! And yeah, I honestly am not sure where the thought came from and I'm disappointed to say the least with how Tails has been handled, but maybe things can turn around for him and Sonic's friends someday
Man, how did it take me this long to see someone do Tails justice? And I still haven't played a Sonic game since Black Knight! Amazing job! Fandom prevails where canon fails yet again!
This was amazing! Well worth the wait! I hope you do more along this idea :) Like Sonic when he is captured and tortured :) I love the scruffy model you have for him in that last scene :)
Nice work! You don't make these every week, but you're got best quality Sonic SFM videos in the youtube. Hope you still got time, help, motivation and ideas making these videos until the end. Keep it up Mike Darklighter!
Logan Pettit You know having Tails be playable but also have Classic Sonic follow him in stages like Tails followed Sonic in Sonic 2 would've been interesting. Tails by this point in time has a lot more experience than Classic Sonic and should know better what to do, it makes sense for him to lead here and we could've gotten some interesting interactions and character growth with Tails having to lead Sonic like that.
OMG THE FACT THAT CHAOS IS LITERAL WATER FINALLY BEING USED HEJSNSJSJJSSK Classic Sonic almost drowning in Chaos is such an amazing idea and I love how you made the story so much better!
YES! And at 3 minutes would have been a perfect time for a level to introduce us to the Player Avatar's abilities. Tails starts the level by saying, "This Wisp Gun is experimental, but you're injured and I can't risk wrenching your ankle by flying" Get the first impossible to miss Wisp. "Alright I've overclocked it, it should have all its capabilities unlocked" At the end, just before the resting scene, Sonic Team could have then added a little extra with the gun in pieces on the side, sparking, to imply that it overloaded and why the player avatar doesn't get a fully souped up super wisp gun off the bat You should do the entire game and do it justice
This was amazing. One thing I was actually considering for a few months now, was rebuilding Sonic Forces from the ground up. This video inspired me to want to make it a reality. I like the way you adjusted the story. Maybe in the eventual future when I'm more along the development, maybe I could have you re-write the story, if it's not too much trouble. I just thought I''d ask since you're writing is excellent.
More like I want to fix Sonic Forces and make it more like what want it. Story and gameplay. Kinda like what the game should've been. A story with more depth, but not too edgy like Shadow the Hedgehog, or too cringy like most modern sonic games are these days. The gameplay will be an attempt at mixing the boost-to-win and the adventure style of gameplay. It'll take a long time, but I hope to make the game that we wanted a year ago.
Another incredible work finally completed! It was once again such a great pleasure offering any help I could with this and watching its progress through all this time! Through this, you've really given Tails the justice he needs and this makes me incredibly hyped for the projects to come heheh! I actually hissed through my teeth at the bone crack sound effect because it was just so perfectly placed XDD I don't think I've gotten to commenting on this but I'm really impressed by your sound editing, it's always been incredibly good and every sound effect you use just works so darn well XD Gosh I can't get over how awesome you are at action and how your movements, camera work, and lighting have taken such leaps of improvement!
This looks amazing! I'm always impressed with what people can make, this whole video looks beautiful! The voices, the camera shots, you did a fantastic job!
Omg! This is absolutely fantastic! Excellent job with this Mike! This would've been perfect in the game! I wish you luck with the other projects you're working on for the future. Also, Happy Thanksgiving! Good luck with your work Mike! :)
1:35 They're so cute ♡ 1:56 You captured the frantic emotions so well ♡ 3:45 I love when he says this ♡ In such a short amount of time the story was so telling ♡ 3:58 Amazing music ♡
Wow, that's brilliant work on Tails. Stepping up to the plate and fighting back, saving Classic, frustrated he couldn't fix Omega correctly, bonding with Classic. And poor Modern Sonic... he looks like he really has been torchered.
I am so excited to finally see this ! The wait was totally worth it ! Oh boy where shall I just start ? XD I dont want to say "this is how Sonic Forces should have been". But I just love this ! Chaos looks so great, the textures - I love how shiny classic Sonic looks when he's wet - the fight, the emotions and bonding between classic Sonic and Tails. And the music and sound effects ! They are perfect ! You really keep improving. Keep it up ! ;D I really love what you did with Tails voice when Sonic was about to drown. It makes it really way more realistic. That moment was so unexpected and a real shocker. I could really feel Tails emotions, the fear and panic. Even though I was wondering if Chaos was really defeated or not after classic Sonic showed up. This really seemed too easy for me. (Idk why I find this so funny XD I just love the Mania reference and how "random" it is XD) This really got me and made me even scream "Sonic !", wanting to step in action, not gonna lie X'D Same with the torture scene. I expected something when I saw the Death Egg but...When I saw Sonic....Oh boy ! The first I could think of was: "What have they done to you ?!" But seeying what happens next... To quote another infamous hedgehog: "You never cease to surprise me." XD It is always so thrilling and intriguing to see a new video of yours, not knowing what happens next. Sonic really looks like he's been tortured, ....broken. Literally fighting for his survival, not knowing how long he can keep this up and is gonna make it - or IF he's gonna make it. This made me even more alert and feel bad for him. It seems like he's starting to lose hope - Sonic, the symbol, the light of hope. Oh... I'd really like to see more of this and go deeper into what has happened to him during those 6 months. Back to Tails and classic Sonic: The fight vs Chaos we know from the preview is also great ! No need to say how much cooler Tails is here, actually fighting back and doing something, trying to stand up for himself and to help. (I get that Tails feels guilty, scared and helpless because he coudnt help Sonic and nobody knows if he's still alive. I just wish Sonic Forces would have also shown this, what's going on with Tails, how much he, Sonic and the others "suffer" and what happened when Sonic was gone)The music really gets me pumped up for this fight everytime XD Again, the sound effects are top notch, especially Sonic with his leg. It really makes me hiss through my teeth every time out of worry and pain, just by hearing it >< It's really such moments that always make me want to help (I know I always get way too emotional and deep in such stories) The interaction between classic Sonic and Tails is just too sweet. I just love seeing Tails trying to make up and help classic Sonic because he wasnt able to help modern Sonic. I really enjoy him being the big brother every once in a while. And also wondered already back then to the time of Sonic Generations what classic Sonic must be thinking about seeing his own future. And if we will see classic Tails and Eggma- I mean Robotnik again (I really believed, heard and had some theories that time travel (or other dimensions) will be included)) I can really relate with every time more and more to Tails, when it comes to Sonic Forces (well...both the offical game and fan stories, especially here - and I never did that before ^^" Like I said I understand how Tails must feel and what he has been through, I just wish Sonic Forces had shown us and executed it better) Tails, a super smart technology nerd, best friend and side kick who's trying to be a hero like his best friend and big bro, stand up for his own and make up for his mistake. Even though it's very hard and scary. Yep....sounds somehow pretty familiar to me -(where have I seen this version of Tails before ?)- Man, your video really gives me a lot of new ideas for my fanfic. And I realise only now that my oc could totally "replace" Tails XD - I mean, I - I mean it would totally (re)act like Tails ^^" I also think it would have been better if Tails at least tried to fight back but fails and then screams for help -also sounds like something I would do ^^'- And that "you're not much of a talker" scene is also very relateable and my favourite besides the torture scene (I cant stop watching that one). Sonic being hurt when Tails said that.... this could totally be me. I've always been the quiet type of person, especially lately. What most people dont like and see as something bad -ok basically everybody does; they say I cant survive in this world if I...just stay the way I am. without even asking why I am so silent all the time; it does really hurt and pushes me only further away to say the truth- It's just who I am. I learned very recently from another brand new also silent character that you dont have to be loud, outgoing and part of the group to be a hero. I just see myself so much in that one short, but meaningfull scene. In both Tails and classic Sonic. I am not that much of a "actions speak louder than words" type of person, like I maybe would like to be, like Sonic. But at least I try to prove myself with every time like Tails -no matter what others say; even if it gets harder and harder; I am just so sick n tired of it- I am rather the silent but attentive listener and seeker, who thinks carefully before she speaks and prefers to do things her own way and to put matters in her own hands. Even though I have to learn now that I cant do everything alone the hard way ^^" I may not talk much, but I definitly have a lot to say -even if others and I dont think so ^^'- as you can see here ^^" X'D And I didnt want to talk so much about myself ^^" But when Tails explained that he "didnt mean it like that"...It's also very relateable and happens too many times -happened very recently again; sometimes people just say mean things they might not mean like this or are "misunderstandings" and then only end up hurting each other; I will try to pay more attention to it; it hurts only more when people say it and act your feelings are invalid because it was your mistake that you misunderstood it- Sorry I should really stop overtexting all the time ^^' Classic Sonic looks so cute when he cheers up again. I just love to see him in your videos. The way you animate him always has something sweet and charming. He looks just so sweet when he smiles ^^ Excuse me for this whole "review" and replying so lately and getting a bit emotional. I cant believe I spent the last 3 days with this X'D
Woah. So cool You gotta teach how to do this video And I agree with the people they should have put this in the game and add in extra details to it more interesting. Nice job.
you know what? im just gonna pretend that this is canon. This was amazing and did the story justice. The voice acting and dude the animation, especially for classic sonic was all perfect i love your channel so much
I wish the game had been more like this! It made no sense for Tails to be so weak and helpless when he’s been an excellent fighter and resourceful on his own in the past.
Now that’s the Tails I know and love!
No one remembers me. Do you?
Yes I do like this tails better then the real game's version.
i know right?!
Yeah he's a badass 🔥👍
This must be a separate timeline actually.
Its the real Tails.
You have done JUSTICE to tails's character. Well done. Better than forces handling.
@Lord Of Vengeance Tails just happens to be my favorite character so of course I'll do content with him on my channel. If that's a bother then you can check out my other stuff that doesn't have him, besides everything on my channel is fanfiction basically so I don't see how that's noteworthy here
@Mecha Omega The Hedgehog thanks! I'm honored you think so!
😰😰😰🤕🤕🤕
The actual sonic writers suck it's pretty sad tails deserves better atleast in official sega works
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid that he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.That's why Tails doesn't remember him.
Finally finished up this little piece, kinda fitting it comes out on the month that Forces did XD I've long hated what Tails has become in the games and wanted to give this a rewrite, I hope you enjoy!
When is fiona going to meet amy
In the next Fiona's Saga episode, though I've been trying to close up some projects on my end so I can fully work on that one, so it will still be just a bit longer I'm afraid
I can never see myself writing a video about Tails, or even make Sonic content anymore. But I'm glad Sonic content creators like you are still out there, trying to fix what was broken.
SEGA should clearly hire you for story and design. Seriously your designs make them look so realistic
That was AWESOME
This is the original tails of the adventures not the weak one of forces
Edit: Holy Geez, I’m glad that many people are agree with me, Look at the likes xD
A more fitting character to say "I am not weak!"
Thank you
Adventure 1
Defeated Eggman & stopped a rocket bomb from destroying Station Square.
Adventure 2
Defeated Eggman even when thinking Sonic died from the capsule explosion.
Blame the Happy Tree Friends writers that nerfed Tails in Forces.
HyperSonicXtreme I know they did a big mistake right there
the real tails too
Yesssssss! This is how it should’ve been. I was expecting this type of cutscenes in Sonic Forces, but once again we were disappointed by SEGA.
Tails’ character development was amazing until Sonic Team decided that jokes like “Baldy McNosehair” was more important than the stories in the games. Forces is a joke for trying to be serious when the series has taken a completely different direction.
You nailed everyone’s personalities and even put Sonic being actually tortured unlike the game. Congratulations to you, my friend. That was one of the best animations I’ve seen not only for the characters’ movement, but also it was the greatest representation of what Sonic Forces needed to be.
I wanna find whoever came up with that godawful joke and slap them.
This is how you show a character being vulnerable or fallible without forsaking their character development in the process.
Great animation, dude.
Thanks bud! I was hoping to try and strike that balance you mentioned there here and I'm glad it worked out ^^
bluefirekid Exactly
bluefirekid Exactly
This video was exactly what should have happen in the game i think sometimes the videos we make are better then the ones in the games it self so keep up the good work my friend.
Devan Tails I agree
Well I think it would be better when Tails fights Chaos on his own without Sonic-its time that he get some spotlight like the good old times- but this video is so much better then the real from Sonic Forces.
Tails was always my favorite, I hate when they try to write him off as some helpless bystander instead of one of the main heroes.
@@hakasek4052 So true.But the fans are also sometimes the worst.They like to write fanfics with Tails as a kind of helpless baby because Sonic can save him then. They want some Aww moments. Its always like"Someone is mean to Tails or hits him and he cries and Sonic saves him and hugs him and aww -_-
Its good that Tails has many fans but some of them see Tails just as a kind of little cute puppy.
@@tailsprower117 I think those people grew up with a different version of tails. I grew up with a PS2 disc called Sonic Mega Collection Plus, and so most of the games I played were the Genesis and Game Gear games, which didn't really have much story, but the version of him on TV I grew up with was from Sonic X. That version of Tails was a mechanical genius, tough fighter who saved Sonic on the regular and not the other way around, and an awesome fighter pilot who had his own combination of the X-wing from Star Wars and the mechs from Macross. I loved that version of tails, but there is another version of the character from the older cartoon called "The Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog", which today is most famous for The quote "SnooPINGASusalISee?" this version of Tails was a useless annoying Crybaby who would leap into Sonic's arms Scooby Doo style after a good thundercrack. I had never understood the Tails haters until I saw that show, If I grew up with that version I'd hate him too.
I loved the battle! something about the way you animate Classic Sonic makes me smile it's very cute.
I agree so much! The way Mike animates Classic Sonic is just so charming and adorable!
Why Sonic little?
I thought this was one of your videos until just now.
@Mindy Genovese bruh
@@mariakucherenko4946 its because its classic sonic in the end part it was modern sonic getting tortured
Now this is the Fox we know and love. ;)
Amazing Job Mike!
Yes indeed! And thanks Noah
Your very welcome Mike! ^^
@@MikeDarklighter
Isn't Tails stronger than Chaos 4 ?
I'm just wondering... But thanks Tails is 1000000X much better than The actual one
How I WISH they handled Chaos attacking Tails instead of having my precious boy cower in fear. Excellent job! Thanks for this fantastic rewrite!
Whoever voiced as Tails, he or she did a pretty good job.
Get a lot of deku vibes from his voice tho lol
GOOD ONE.
Hey, MrGorjira95
I love the swap in character roles when Classic Sonic pops up. Sonic takes care of Tails, usually, but when Tails is better suited in the world, he becomes Sonic's caretaker. I can also imagine that when Modern Sonic and Tails' meet, Tails is going to have a hard time not hovering protectively over him as well. Just love the role swap!
I like how Classic wasn't much of a talker, especially since he's Sonic when he was a kid.
This how Tails should've been in Sonic Forces. In fact Sonic Forces really did mess up the cast, not only that but the game play was short, and they butchered Classic Sonic. At I mean I don't mind the OC's, but replacing Tails and Knuckles as sidekicks is just not a good thing to do when Tails and Knuckles have always been through Sonic's Adventure. Hopefully there's a Sonic Adventure remake and if that ever happens, maybe the creators will finally remember. But then again Sonic Cannons are always confusing.
It has been extremely confusing since the Dreamcast died.
Mario and Sonic super gamer i thought tails acted like that because he thought he was actually dead
😂😂😂
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations,he is from Sonic Mania.
@@Kirilltv818Tails defeated chaos in like his 4th form
What should’ve happened in Sonic Forces
What i expected from Forces, but not what i got. (Sadly...)
It's sad when fans know WAY more about these characters then Sega and Sonic Team.
If you played Sonic Adventure 1 & 2. Sega/Sonic Team did knew what they were doing back then with Tails.
Adventure 1
Defeated Eggman & stopped a rocket bomb from destroying Station Square.
Adventure 2
Defeated Eggman even when thinking Sonic died from the capsule explosion.
Blame the Happy Tree Friends writers that nerfed Tails in Forces.
All the hype is all wasted in forces
The writers
@@HyperSonicXtreme And not a single developer or writer from those times is still with Sonic Team smh
@@superluigijake7953 ikr
It's funny how one guy with SFM can write a better story than a entire development team, you did amazing!
This is the most beautiful side of the Sonic fandom :)
This is *exactly* what Tails *should’ve been like* in Sonic Forces along with his story and Knuckles’ story. I did not know what the game developers were thinking when they made Sonic Forces. When ruining the gameplay, character development, and destroying Tails’ personality makes me wanna hate Forces for any given reason. I guess they never learned what Tails and Knuckles have been through with their own stories in Sonic Adventure. I remember where Tails went up against Chaos 4 and obliterated the living crap out of him, but I don’t think the developers remembered it. I definitely prefer Mania over Forces, but if there is ever a Sonic Adventure remake, I hope it’s everything what we wanted from the original version.
This video means a lot to me. Thank you for making this.
wow tails fight back and sonic looks actually tortured. can we send this to sega
Yeah
They need to take notes.
You did a great job on this. Tails is portrayed way better here than in Forces, and Sonic looks like he was actually tortured here.
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid,that he can fail everyone,he can die, especially that he was in depression after Sonic's fail.He doesn't know Classic, because this Sonic is from Sonic Mania.
Sonic is like a Spider-Man.His joke's is defensive reaction and that's why we see him okay.And the torments are deferent: physical and psychological.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps feeling better.And he was captured in Unleashed, when he was in his Super Form,so he got use to it.
YO! This is a MILLION times better than Sonic Forces! Great job! 👍
SonicStar917 Did you know about Sonic Forces AU known as Overclocked where Eggman betrays Infinite and Neo Metal Sonic gives him the overclocked Phantom Ruby?
@@kovidarthehedgehog4066 I did not...
SonicStar917 that’s just my imagination. :/
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.Tails doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because he is not from Sonic Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.
Sonic is like Spider-Man.His jokes is defensive reaction.The torment can be different: physical and psychologica.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps him, like Spiderman.
Yes! Tails the way he's suppose to be! Worth the wait! Thanks for this awesome animation!
Thank you too! I'm so happy you enjoyed!
Man with all the amazing 3D fanmade games coming out I'd love to see a remake of Forces with your animations for cutscenes
YES, JUSTICE FOR TAILS! Your rewritten scene is far superior to how Tails was portrayed in Forces! Props to you for making Tails a badass again, this was a really well made video! Of course, I don’t expect anything less :)
Edit: YOU MADE SONIC LOOK LIKE HE WAS ACTUALLY TORTURED AS WELL? Wow, you’re just strengthening all of Forces’ weak points! I really wish Sega would have expanded on that more.
Aww I know I always say this, but thank you so much for the heart! I hope you know that your appreciation for your subscribers is really admirable. Love ya and what you do :)
Thank you Mike for a better version of this scene from Sonic Forces
I really hated what's been to Tails lately so I'm glad and extremely happy on how this turned out and if u do more scenes from Sonic Force I'll be super happy to see another 1 and I'll bet others will two
Tails fighting Chaos > Tails not even trying to fight Chaos
And Sonic actually looks like he's been tortured for months in this.
Edit: Someone should make a mod to replace the "Sonic, help me!" cutscene with this video, even if it'd be out of place.
Edit 2: I just realised that this video is also more consistent with the way Classic Sonic enters the portal in the True Ending of Sonic Mania.
The problem is that Tails is a kid,he has never fight with Chaos, only if Knuckles and Sonic with him.He afraid that he can fail everyone, afraid he can die.He doesn't remember Classic Sonic, because that Sonic is not from Generations.He is from Sonic Mania.That's why Tails doesn't remember him.
Sonic is like Spider -Man.His jokes is defensive reaction.The torments can be different: physical and psychological.Maybe Sonic feel psychological torment, because Eggman taked over the world.But his jokes helps him, like Spiderman
@@Kirilltv818 Sega have more recently said there is no Classic dimension, Classic Sonic is from the past, and Sonic Mania and Superstars are now set before Sonic Adventure instead.
Also, Tails does remember Classic Sonic in Sonic Forces.
And while Tails hasn't fought Chaos alone, I think he's fought stronger foes than Chaos 0 alone.
@@JonnySpec Again, Tails fought with Chaos 4 with Knuckles and Sonic.Stories of Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Gamma and Big are happing in the same time.And that means Tails fought with Chaos with Knuckles and Sonic.I won't listen to this stupid thing,that Sonic Mania is canon.For my canon there is exists two universes: Classic and Modern.
This was awesome! And, made more sense in context of what happened in Forces and Tails as, well, being Tails.
What Forces should’ve been but SEGA decided to play it a bit TOO safe.
Then again knowing the Sonic fan base they’d all criticize SEGA for taking Sonic into a “darker toned direction” if they didn’t play it safe.
It's a vicious cycle of not being able to please everybody, or at least the most vocal ones from a fandom
True. Exactly, it's the fans (and the rush) who prevented Sega from being audacious.
But with what Frontiers gave to us, there's hope to see scenes like that! :D
Now if only this was in Forces.
This is the Tails who isn't afraid to stand up and fight.
Bro this much better representation of the real strong Tails who by the way beat CHAOS 4 and can't even beat the weakest of Chaos. Thanks!
THIS is how Tails should've acted in Sonic Forces, not cowering in fear.
Amen
*Expectations vs Reality* They should have let us play as Tails to fight Chaos and then put the cut scene where tails is begging for Sonic to help him after he lost against Chaos. That would have given Tails the aspect that he at least TRIED but failed in the end!
But wouldn't that still be weird considering he was ale to defeat Chaos 4 back in SA1?
Unless he was severely pre-fatigued before-hand
@@unwithering5313 Yes but sonic team likes to make things confusing. Thats why some things are cannon and some things aren't. So maybe Tails fighting Chaos isnt cannon, but Chaos in general is cannon.
Animation is utter chaos.
First time I don't see you in the top of the comments
So what? The animation isn’t perfect but still looks good. You should be great full that you can see what is happening
@@voiceacticon667 late response but i think they meant utter chaos as in amazingly animated
Why can't Sega create something like this with the characters? This is the Tails everyone wants.
Bruh this dark 😭😭
I love it.
Thanks!
“I’ll come back for you, Omega. No more hiding” is SUCH a power line. Especially in the context of Tails’s character.
Make a part 2!
Also, love the Yu Yu Hakusho music. It goes well with that scene!
Wow. You earned yourself a new sub. So stupid how I hadn't subbed earlier.
This is what sonic forces could have been. Simply amazing.
If Mike or IAN made sonic forces
I loved this, but it should have ended with Ghost Town playing in the background
Thanks! And ooooh quite a way to end it
Maybe one day Sonic Team will hire you guys to make ideas for cutsceens
I hope so cause damn does this look good.
Ohhhhhhhhhhh that was awesome!
*Insert comment about how Tails should've been like this in Forces.*
But all that aside, this is a great video; although, I always wonder who thought it was a good (and stupid) idea to make Tails a generic nerd and a coward who cries that Sonic is dead.... SERIOUSLY, WHO THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA!?
Hahahaha! And yeah, I honestly am not sure where the thought came from and I'm disappointed to say the least with how Tails has been handled, but maybe things can turn around for him and Sonic's friends someday
@@MikeDarklighter I just realized something.... YOU JUST REPLIED TO MY COMMENT!!! HOLY SH-
Why was I late to this, this looks Amazing and the feels hit really hard to me on this one.
You did an amazing job better then Sega did with Tails
Sega should hire you. I want the next game's cutscenes to be directed by you.
"I'll come back for you omega, no more hiding" ahh yessss
Man, how did it take me this long to see someone do Tails justice? And I still haven't played a Sonic game since Black Knight! Amazing job! Fandom prevails where canon fails yet again!
The animation is a lot smoother too from what I can see, great job!
This was amazing! Well worth the wait! I hope you do more along this idea :) Like Sonic when he is captured and tortured :) I love the scruffy model you have for him in that last scene :)
This one is so much better than the original one!!! And sonic actually looks like "tortured for months " there should be a part 2 of this!!!
Alternative title: "What if Tails stopped acting like a chicken and actually did something for once, in a Sonic game?"
5 4 3 2 1 0 sonic almost drowned
I reaallly want another video about this.
I agree.
me too
Yep.
SEGA: You’re Hired
Making Sonic Forces what it should've been. Awesome job :D
1:13 Talk about making an entrance... How I arrived at Sonic's world... And how I became friends with Tails...
Nice work! You don't make these every week, but you're got best quality Sonic SFM videos in the youtube. Hope you still got time, help, motivation and ideas making these videos until the end. Keep it up Mike Darklighter!
It is so better than original that it makes me cry.
(no kidding)
0:41 Love the reference
And now this is what Tails should've been in the game. In fact, he should've been playable instead of Classic Sonic.
Logan Pettit You know having Tails be playable but also have Classic Sonic follow him in stages like Tails followed Sonic in Sonic 2 would've been interesting. Tails by this point in time has a lot more experience than Classic Sonic and should know better what to do, it makes sense for him to lead here and we could've gotten some interesting interactions and character growth with Tails having to lead Sonic like that.
NOW *THIS* IS HOW THE CUTSCENE *SHOULD'VE* BEEN.
I rewatched this lol
OMG THE FACT THAT CHAOS IS LITERAL WATER FINALLY BEING USED HEJSNSJSJJSSK
Classic Sonic almost drowning in Chaos is such an amazing idea and I love how you made the story so much better!
I loved it! In many ways, this short (and others) shows me what I wanted to see that was lacking in the games. Keep up the great work!
Oh boy. I'm Hoping Sonic will make it out of that robot situation.
Thank you for bringing back Tails. I miss him in Modern Sonic games.....hopefully he comes back...
Great job, Mike!! Very well put together. I would have preferred this sequence more than the actual game. Love the ending shot, too!
YES! And at 3 minutes would have been a perfect time for a level to introduce us to the Player Avatar's abilities. Tails starts the level by saying, "This Wisp Gun is experimental, but you're injured and I can't risk wrenching your ankle by flying"
Get the first impossible to miss Wisp. "Alright I've overclocked it, it should have all its capabilities unlocked"
At the end, just before the resting scene, Sonic Team could have then added a little extra with the gun in pieces on the side, sparking, to imply that it overloaded and why the player avatar doesn't get a fully souped up super wisp gun off the bat
You should do the entire game and do it justice
I love it that chaos was holding tails tummy
Lol, why?
I mean it is pretty cute I can see why someone would like that.
This was amazing. One thing I was actually considering for a few months now, was rebuilding Sonic Forces from the ground up. This video inspired me to want to make it a reality. I like the way you adjusted the story. Maybe in the eventual future when I'm more along the development, maybe I could have you re-write the story, if it's not too much trouble. I just thought I''d ask since you're writing is excellent.
More like I want to fix Sonic Forces and make it more like what want it. Story and gameplay. Kinda like what the game should've been. A story with more depth, but not too edgy like Shadow the Hedgehog, or too cringy like most modern sonic games are these days. The gameplay will be an attempt at mixing the boost-to-win and the adventure style of gameplay. It'll take a long time, but I hope to make the game that we wanted a year ago.
That's one of the best Tails voices I've ever heard!
In fact, this is one of the best Sonic animations I've ever seen, great job!
3:06 looks like it came out from a movie (except the split eyes looks a bit weird). Great Job!
I personally like the split eyes. Looks more normal than the weird cyclops eyeball imo XD
THANK YOU THIS IS SOOOOOO MUCH BETTER
Omg yes the music to this fight is so epic. Thank you for this
If only Sega seemed to have as much respect for their characters. This is far better than what we actually got, very well done!
Really amazing intensity in this video
Another incredible work finally completed! It was once again such a great pleasure offering any help I could with this and watching its progress through all this time! Through this, you've really given Tails the justice he needs and this makes me incredibly hyped for the projects to come heheh!
I actually hissed through my teeth at the bone crack sound effect because it was just so perfectly placed XDD I don't think I've gotten to commenting on this but I'm really impressed by your sound editing, it's always been incredibly good and every sound effect you use just works so darn well XD
Gosh I can't get over how awesome you are at action and how your movements, camera work, and lighting have taken such leaps of improvement!
Why hello nice to see you here. 🌟
This looks amazing! I'm always impressed with what people can make, this whole video looks beautiful! The voices, the camera shots, you did a fantastic job!
This makes me sad because I know what could of been, but seriously great work on this!
Omg! This is absolutely fantastic! Excellent job with this Mike! This would've been perfect in the game! I wish you luck with the other projects you're working on for the future. Also, Happy Thanksgiving! Good luck with your work Mike! :)
Thanks a ton Blue! Hope you're having a wonderful weekend as well!
Super smooth Mike. Do love classic sonic animations. They are so cute.
And gasp sonic beaten! Send in the acorn troops!
1:35 They're so cute ♡
1:56 You captured the frantic emotions so well ♡
3:45 I love when he says this ♡ In such a short amount of time the story was so telling ♡
3:58 Amazing music ♡
Holy shit why doesn't this have way more views, this is amazing.
Please remake the scene where Sonic and Tails Reunite again!!
Yaaaaas
In that moment where classic sonic came... *falls on chaos* lol nice animation i really like it
This was asome Amazing work Buddy =3
Thank you so much!
Your welcom =3
Wow, that's brilliant work on Tails. Stepping up to the plate and fighting back, saving Classic, frustrated he couldn't fix Omega correctly, bonding with Classic.
And poor Modern Sonic... he looks like he really has been torchered.
thats the tails we need in sonic forces!.
thanks for the animation, you are so good
See, this is what should've happened in Sonic Forces, Tails should've been doing what everyone else was doing which is fighting back
I am so excited to finally see this ! The wait was totally worth it ! Oh boy where shall I just start ? XD
I dont want to say "this is how Sonic Forces should have been". But I just love this ! Chaos looks so great, the textures - I love how shiny classic Sonic looks when he's wet - the fight, the emotions and bonding between classic Sonic and Tails. And the music and sound effects ! They are perfect ! You really keep improving. Keep it up ! ;D
I really love what you did with Tails voice when Sonic was about to drown. It makes it really way more realistic. That moment was so unexpected and a real shocker. I could really feel Tails emotions, the fear and panic. Even though I was wondering if Chaos was really defeated or not after classic Sonic showed up. This really seemed too easy for me. (Idk why I find this so funny XD I just love the Mania reference and how "random" it is XD) This really got me and made me even scream "Sonic !", wanting to step in action, not gonna lie X'D
Same with the torture scene. I expected something when I saw the Death Egg but...When I saw Sonic....Oh boy ! The first I could think of was: "What have they done to you ?!" But seeying what happens next... To quote another infamous hedgehog: "You never cease to surprise me." XD It is always so thrilling and intriguing to see a new video of yours, not knowing what happens next. Sonic really looks like he's been tortured, ....broken. Literally fighting for his survival, not knowing how long he can keep this up and is gonna make it - or IF he's gonna make it. This made me even more alert and feel bad for him. It seems like he's starting to lose hope - Sonic, the symbol, the light of hope. Oh... I'd really like to see more of this and go deeper into what has happened to him during those 6 months.
Back to Tails and classic Sonic: The fight vs Chaos we know from the preview is also great ! No need to say how much cooler Tails is here, actually fighting back and doing something, trying to stand up for himself and to help. (I get that Tails feels guilty, scared and helpless because he coudnt help Sonic and nobody knows if he's still alive. I just wish Sonic Forces would have also shown this, what's going on with Tails, how much he, Sonic and the others "suffer" and what happened when Sonic was gone)The music really gets me pumped up for this fight everytime XD
Again, the sound effects are top notch, especially Sonic with his leg. It really makes me hiss through my teeth every time out of worry and pain, just by hearing it >< It's really such moments that always make me want to help (I know I always get way too emotional and deep in such stories) The interaction between classic Sonic and Tails is just too sweet. I just love seeing Tails trying to make up and help classic Sonic because he wasnt able to help modern Sonic. I really enjoy him being the big brother every once in a while. And also wondered already back then to the time of Sonic Generations what classic Sonic must be thinking about seeing his own future. And if we will see classic Tails and Eggma- I mean Robotnik again (I really believed, heard and had some theories that time travel (or other dimensions) will be included))
I can really relate with every time more and more to Tails, when it comes to Sonic Forces (well...both the offical game and fan stories, especially here - and I never did that before ^^" Like I said I understand how Tails must feel and what he has been through, I just wish Sonic Forces had shown us and executed it better) Tails, a super smart technology nerd, best friend and side kick who's trying to be a hero like his best friend and big bro, stand up for his own and make up for his mistake. Even though it's very hard and scary. Yep....sounds somehow pretty familiar to me -(where have I seen this version of Tails before ?)- Man, your video really gives me a lot of new ideas for my fanfic. And I realise only now that my oc could totally "replace" Tails XD - I mean, I - I mean it would totally (re)act like Tails ^^" I also think it would have been better if Tails at least tried to fight back but fails and then screams for help -also sounds like something I would do ^^'-
And that "you're not much of a talker" scene is also very relateable and my favourite besides the torture scene (I cant stop watching that one). Sonic being hurt when Tails said that.... this could totally be me. I've always been the quiet type of person, especially lately. What most people dont like and see as something bad -ok basically everybody does; they say I cant survive in this world if I...just stay the way I am. without even asking why I am so silent all the time; it does really hurt and pushes me only further away to say the truth- It's just who I am. I learned very recently from another brand new also silent character that you dont have to be loud, outgoing and part of the group to be a hero.
I just see myself so much in that one short, but meaningfull scene. In both Tails and classic Sonic. I am not that much of a "actions speak louder than words" type of person, like I maybe would like to be, like Sonic. But at least I try to prove myself with every time like Tails -no matter what others say; even if it gets harder and harder; I am just so sick n tired of it-
I am rather the silent but attentive listener and seeker, who thinks carefully before she speaks and prefers to do things her own way and to put matters in her own hands. Even though I have to learn now that I cant do everything alone the hard way ^^"
I may not talk much, but I definitly have a lot to say -even if others and I dont think so ^^'- as you can see here ^^" X'D
And I didnt want to talk so much about myself ^^"
But when Tails explained that he "didnt mean it like that"...It's also very relateable and happens too many times -happened very recently again; sometimes people just say mean things they might not mean like this or are "misunderstandings" and then only end up hurting each other; I will try to pay more attention to it; it hurts only more when people say it and act your feelings are invalid because it was your mistake that you misunderstood it- Sorry I should really stop overtexting all the time ^^'
Classic Sonic looks so cute when he cheers up again. I just love to see him in your videos. The way you animate him always has something sweet and charming. He looks just so sweet when he smiles ^^
Excuse me for this whole "review" and replying so lately and getting a bit emotional. I cant believe I spent the last 3 days with this X'D
This is such an incredibly epic comment!
Aaaaww thank you so much ! I knew you would say that ^u^
Omg yassssssssssssssss sooooooooo beautiful I almost cried Excellent job Mike Darklighter!😊😎😳😳😳😰😰😰😰😆😉👏👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏👐👏
Sonic Adventure: Capable of beating Chaos 4.
Sonic Forces: Can't beat Chaos 0.
Wow, that yu yu hakusho track was used brilliantly!
This single video feels like it has redeemed Tails. Awesome stuff dude!
Mike Darklighter long time no see! I’ve been waiting long for this one! Awesome animation work!
This was so good! I gotta get to work to be this good one day.
Woah. So cool
You gotta teach how to do this video
And I agree with the people they should have put this in the game and add in extra details to it more interesting. Nice job.