Love how Max states that the room is the most secure room in the building, then proceeds to open the door to the room with a standard household key lol
Sure if ISIS wanted cryogenically frozen people for their undead army, I guess you'd have a point. Otherwise it's just precautionary measures to protect their patients. Your cynicism is insulting to the science
I wrote to this place a few years ago requesting some technical details for a sci-fi novel I was writing that involves cryonics. The paperwork they sent back weighed about half a pound and was very informative. If I had the folding to pay for this procedure, I'd roll the dice.
I noticed your comment regarding this fascinating technology but here´s my question since you actually had the opportunity to read the paperwork: Who guarantees that this company will still exist in 2200 or 2350 when there might be newer tech to "revive" you ? Imagine if it goes financially broke, or the US is bombed by nuclear warheads in some distant future? Who will actually be liable for your body in 300 years from now? Thanks!
exionem There will no absolute guarantee. Even the company make a disclairement about that. This is for those who think it's better to take an oportunity rather than rotting under ground.
So you´re basically signing a document that states that they are not liable for "waking" you up in the distant future, albeit you payed around 80 thousand dollars. Hmmm....
Deep Thinker the almighty didn’t create me my parents created me and their parents for them all the back to the first Neanderthals which were created by evolution. So nothing related to god!
I suppose there are some very religious people, especially in the United States, who would think this was the "devil's work" so I see why they'd need security.
Because you have sick people out there who tried doing sick things and they don't realize what they arguing when they mess with something like this just let it be and if the worst comes it will come to those involved but you two have people in there who are famous like presidents and celebrities so therefore some people just can't help but be sick or curious
Not to mention they probably only want the head people to have access because God forbid is someone in the practice finds out they're dying and needs an organ they have access to many and it's not hard for them to pull an organ out and just revived just the organ so therefore they probably want to protect the patients from any Foul Play
Tecnovlog There are also religious communists. Doesn't mean anything, except that theists are good at doublethink. Cryonics represents the triumph of reason, while religion represents its (catastrophic) failure. They're not actually compatible, and most cryonicists are, unsurprisingly, atheists.
Parapon3ra no, not really. it's like saying that a religious person should not accept to go to an hospital. this is just another medical treatment, you won't become immortal, just frozen waiting for the cure to the disease that killed you. You can think that if you want but religion and crionics are completely compatible, take a look on the site of alcor and you will see that with your own eyes
Tecnovlog Most theists are really just intellectually lazy conformists. They don't really believe all that religious BS, otherwise they wouldn't go to hospitals when ill, or cry at funerals. True believers don't fear illness or death, those are just temporary discomforts and eternal paradise is just around the corner. For a truly religious person, cryonics would be a (potentially immoral, for trying to interfere with God's plan or whatever) waste of time and money. Alcor's statements about the compatibility of religion and cryonics are just them being pragmatic. It makes business sense, not actual sense.
Parapon3ra you don't know anything about religion. do you? ask a priest, or a bishob and a rabbi if a believer should go in hospital or what. i don't understand why ahteists people are always pissed off about something, man you think about God than i do. this should tell something about atheists
Waking up 100 years from now, knowing no one, nothing, or the world you once lived in. Not even final death scares me this much. I think I would rather not come back, then to be without my loved ones in a world that will be crazier and colder than it already is. Just imagine the psychological effects if or when these people even come back.
You could take your family members with you, life insurance almost always covers it or most of it. Alcor also have a trust fund for being able to repair and reintroduce you into society so they wont just throw you into a completely different world, and as things are going this might not even be that distant. Although look how far we’ve come since the 90s or 2000s
Love ALCOR - a distant Star, only those with great vision can see her light. :) I'm not sure why so many people are discouraged by this, I find this organization, the people and the science fascinating. Cryonics is a personal choice people must make for themselves, don't allow yourself to be influenced by others, you only live once.
Unfortunately, many of us with extensive knowledge, within the medical field, we still view these procedures as science fiction and plausibly debatable, body mutilation. Especially, the patients that opt for the brain only (head) “preservation” service(s). As a firm believer, with a thorough understanding of the medical field, the science is just not there for this type of facility. Yes, it’s rather easy to speculate and over-promise in the medical field but sincere MDs will not entertain, suggest, nor participate in this level of assumption science/medicine. The odds of over-promising and under-delivering are astounding and when exercising applicable science and practical medical diagnosis, one should not allow true professionals to participate or encourage in such reckless and obtuse promises and/or possibilities. Just my professional opinion.
As do I, this is definitely worth consideration for me in the far future. I'm only in my late teens, but that gives this technology decades and decades to evolve and gives me a more and more hopeful chance at a second life to experience when my current one eventually comes to a close. It might be experimental, but I have faith in it.
Seth ノートン lol, we're on the verge of Human Level AGI, after that the impossible happens. You won't need Cryogenics dude, don't worry about it. Just stay healthy as long as you can.
I heard about this guy Steve who got frozen and his wife was supposed to be also frozen when it was her time to go BUT she changed her mind. When Steve wakes up from sleeping time she wont be there....oh well
uff sad history and very bad choice!! only a few people of this 21st century will have the privilege to live again in the next centuries, those who use the science (the frozen ones). Those using the ancient traditional mortuary burial (the rotten ones) or (the cremated ones), no way.
He can always get a new wife from the future or from the ones that was frozen in Alcor or other cryonic facilities around the country. People know how to adjust and he will definitely find someone else to make him happy.
Imagine what it would be like for a journalist of the future covering the first revival, and seeing the first patient actually walk out of the building, after so many decades. 😁
How and who decides when it is time to try reviving and "curing" the dead patients? Also, can you keep investments going as a dead person, or are you basically broke when you "wake up" 1000 years from now?
@108580928845230806986 Yea, but who decides when it is time to try to revive you. Someone has to decide that and if they screw it up, then you are really dead!
***** I have news for you ... Once the technology is there to cure what usually kills 20th and 21st century humans, it means that the Cryonic institute is out of business. That is, there won't be any new patient getting frozen, since people live practically forever. So my insight is that those frozen may not be revived because it would cost money to do so and the company is out of business.
***** I would love to be able to come back in the future. Life is great. The possibilities in this Universe are endless. If technology improves and the money is there, I may still go for this.
Peter Davila There is a only a few people frozen, im sure people in a few hundred years or hopefully less will be curious to experience people of the past who will end up being super stars.
Actually guys, she is the producer - so she not only knows all about it but is also paying for the video and considering signing up for Alcor membership.
***** People that want to die of traditional way, is sad but blame religion (some religions) for that dogmatic mindset. Please don't blame the Science for that. Then in the "second life" is better to socialize with people who accept the progress that in the future will be a lot of people.
Words do nothing to describe how interesting this is. I mean, its beyond description. I spent ALL DAY sunday, Monday, and YESTERDAY on your website researching this continuously. I think I've read all your reports Its beyond awesome. I would like to talk. I need to learn more. Yes. I still want to learn more. PLEASE RESPOND. THIS IS BEYOND INTERESTING.
Seems to me like they are trying to keep something INSIDE FROM GETTING OUT of the chambers INSTEAD of someone trying to get in.... Resident Evil Much ??? & THE LAST ONE WITH THAT HUGE CHAIN LOCK ON IT ??? LIKEEE
It's fascinating to see and hear exactly what happens at these facilities. I don't know if I'd want the procedure myself though. As great as it might be, to be brought back to life sometime in the future, nobody can say when, if at all, that will be. Imagine dying, then waking up 1000 years in the future. No family, no friends. All alone in a strange new world.
I am signing up. I am getting a term life insurance policy separate from the one for my family. It's only like 40.00 a month for a 30 year term. I realize it most likely won't work. Just like I know I most likely won't win the lottery. But the remote chance of waking up 400 years from now is well worth it. Even if I only lived another couple of years.
Given the exponential rate of growth of technology and it's effects on society, the world will be a VERY different place by the time these people are revived. A systematic reintegration program of education would need to be in place to ease people back into society and "bring them up to speed" so to speak. I think this is very exciting and probably the best way to survive long enough for the Singularity to occur and smarter than human AI can figure out Life Extension, uploading our personalities etc. BTW Nicola, I like your blonde friend, she is as you might say "fentestic" ; )
Excellent commentary. I can only imagine in 500 years ( let´s say tech can revive you from your "dormant" state) how different the world might be that even normal speaking is obsolete. Imagine the confusion a person might have dying in 2075 and waking up in 2575. Fascinating but a bit creepy!
@@exionem Its not that long for sure, we already revive organs after deep cryosleep today and even almost completely revived a rabbit brain and that was in 2018!
My voice analysis detects a nervousness in the speaker's voice which indicates that he knows he's lying. It's as clever and innocuous a scam as I've ever seen because the participants have nothing to lose considering their condition when they arrive. Go ahead and turn yourself into a popsicle if that's what makes you happy.
This is the modern day version of methodically preparing deceased Egyptian pharaohs and the outcome will be only marginally better in terms of understanding what people in the past ate and what diseases they had.
techstyle123 well for now is the only option that we have, in the future, maybe around 2050/2060 some say that we will know how to transfer our consciousness inside a computer, but to me it's a little bit unrealistic
I am addressing alcor. I must contact somebody. Do you have any simulation or demonstration videos where we can see the process I am certain it wouldn't be of a real patient but I mean like either a dummy simulation or something where I can see the procedures being carried out.
Alcor is offering one year of Associate Membership to anyone who clicks the like button on this video. This does not guarantee that you will be cryopreserved should something unexpected and lethal happen to you, but does make it easier to make arrangements in an emergency. For more information see contact Diane Remeens - diane at alcor dot org and mention “SingularityWeblogBonus” to receive your free Associate Membership. [valid till 12.31.13]
This company is very old, although it was not called Alcor in the 60s they did freeze people, but for only show purposes, that time they did not know anything about antifreeze
This question was actually addressed during the tour friend - each tank can survive for 6 to 8 months without refilling of nitrogen because their excellent insulation retains internal temperature for a very long time...
This is actually fascinating information. I don't believe for a minute that revival of any of these "patients" is going to be possible for hundreds of years at best, if ever, but the engineering of their systems is at least laudable. The boiloff rates for those huge dewars are highly impressive. Even assuming 20 dewars at a boiloff of 15 L/day each gives just 300 L/day total. This is such a modest volume of liquid that a small LN2 plant on site could easily be powered by a moderately sized solar panel array on the roof (they're in AZ after all) and they wouldn't even need to rely on external delivery services at all.
100s of years is absolutely what we're thinking of. Imagine explaining an airplane or cellphone to someone in the year 1700. If we look at this from the lense of someone in 2023 it seems out of reach, but if this is an option in the year 2300, that would mean that we have probably also conquered most forms of aging, disease prevention etc. That being said -- big pharma is only going to get bigger as time goes on so they have an interest in never fully curing all diseases and inventing new ones to keep their machine going.
Michael Bowie because Scottsdale is where the people worth this kind of money live. It's right outside Phoenix and you can get there in 20 minutes or less from some parts of the valley depending on traffic. Phoenix traffic actually gets really congested do this location is smarter in that sense.
Arthur C. Clarke formulated the following three "laws" of prediction: 1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
Yes, people dont understand how cheap it is to run these tanks, each tank holds around 6-10 people, they dont use electricity just liquid nitrogen, if you buy in bulk it costs well around 5 cents per gallons, normally the nitrogen needs to be changed around every 2 week, thats very cheap. You also pay a monthly membership that is enough to maintain tanks for a long time. The most expensive thing really is to build those tanks which is a one time purchase. On top of everything the company is non profit meaning everything they have goes back into it. Hope this helps
Ha, this is an important question Chris so the answer to the first part is "YES" - you should reserve funds for a new body. As to how much, since we have no clue, I would dare say - as much as possible! ;-)
I just have two questions that i would like to get more information about. 1.Do you have to have a disease such as cancer to be cryogenically frozen or can it be by natural death. 2. Can minors become Alcor members and are there any children patients?
1. No, you don't have to have cancer or another identifiable disease. You only have to be declared "legally dead" for us to proceed. That, of course, is from real, biological, irreversible death. 2. Yes, minors can become members and we do have quite a few families who have made arrangements together. Our youngest patient to date is 21.
Max More At one point you mentioned that you want to be neuro preserved because due to wear and tear on the human body by the time old age sets in. Can you sign a contract to be neuro preserve if you live past a certain age, but whole body preserved if you die suddenly at a young age?
to design a bodies without a heads for reattachment of the "neuro only" patients' heads is going to take a long time for the technology be able to do that. I almost want to say it would be impossible unless you grew a clone human being to adulthood and then decapitated this new person to replace it with the neuro patient's head. All the small vessels and realignment of bones and healing of the spinal cord to the brainstem is extremely complex. I would think that even if they are able to heal a dead person's brain to reanimate, that will be it for the next few hundred years and the neuro patients would probably be a head living in a glass case like you see in science fiction shows.
Yeah, that's the disadvantage about lower budget cryonics ($80.000). I am afraid when there is a way to revive someone from death, there will be no people that invest again on this company. So they will run out money and cannot keep the brain anymore. Maybe they can revive the full body immediately as soon as the reviving technology invented. But the brain only still can't because it's need further technology more. At that point, the people that preserve brain only will left without a clear fate.
I assume many "neuro patients" are waiting to be "uploaded" into a simulation or to get a robotic body. If immortality is the goal then a new cloned adult human body is just kicking the can another 60-80 years, unless it is engineered to not age.
Out of curiosity, So you pay $200,000 for full body and $80,000 for just the head and this is just to froze your body and preserve them until the technology is advanced enough for them to reanimate the body. But my question is, how will the company have the budget to reanimate the body and keep the company running for a long time. Don't get me wrong, this isn't cheap but at a $200k, you can buy a normal house. Just something about the cost get me to think about the future for the company and the patient.
If the company still exists in hundreds of years from now and the frozen bodies haven't been towed out most likely the future US government would resurrect them with the help of scientists/androids and then they would immediately become test subjects for society to inspect on like an animal in a cage,this would be the case unless they decide to let them go and integrate into the future society of which they would wake up to,for all this to happen though first humanity would still need to exist and also a technology would need to be intevented that could revive and heal frozen dead people
What if you don't freeze the body while giving circulating the body? He/she might wake up??? I mean he/she might be dead because the heart is not not supplying enough blood to the brain and oxygen. But pumping the chest by machines might do it?
They are frozen. A perfect point to repair damaged organs. Make the ice crystals small enough and they will not damage the cells. While the brains activities have stopped (meaning death), all of the memories are still there. That's all physical. We will eventually figure out how to restart the brain, bringing them back to life. Really it would be like bringing a clone back to life unless you can make the brain keep functioning but really slow, then it would just be waking up.
I understand the thinking, but I still find this phenomena so strange. I wonder how much we still don't know about this idea, and the potential for brain death when/if they finally figure out reviving them. And, like he said, the potential for glucose in the bloodstream freezing in spikes and puncturing cell walls seems very high. Also, does the service stipulate that you will be revived as soon as they know how? Does the patient specify their 'revival' date? Does the patient pay a subscription? If so, what if their funds run out? If not, does the patient choose how long they be frozen for? Is there a larger fee for the 'indefibite' option? Its just such an ethical and medical mindfield... Also, the neuropreservation part just reminded me of futurama.
I wouldn't want to do this. If i had that sort of money, I'd rather put it towards buying my own house instead of renting. I'm really shocked that they only have 117 "patients" though! I would have thought there would be many more!
AlloK I asked them that. They told me that would be murder. I’m sure someone would volunteer for it. Put an add in the prison system I’m sure a person in for life would volunteer.
Hey stadium, we are in Algeria, and I am particularly interested in this method, which is to preserve the body after death. It urges freezing because it has not been collected at the global level. We urgently need it in Algeria. There is one corpse from South Africa that urges freezing. Thank you, spread in Algeria
I just hope I don't die during deployment so I can eventually be Cryonically Frozen. Whether it pans out or not, better than alternative arrangements such as Burial, Creamtion, or Aquamation(you don't want to know). I'd leave mementos behind. Maybe even arrange for Neural Cryonic Freezing and have my body cremated and put in an urn for Family. Although it would be weird as hell to wake up and just know the rest of me is in a metal canister somewhere lost to time. Idk, Neural or Full Body. What would you choose?
AryanCrusaderXIV Well for starters in those cases those people didn't have their blood pumped out , replaced with a kind of anti freeze , and put into a tube for years. In most cases they were revived within an hour years in a tube frozen your not coming back. And until they do revive a person I will have that opinion.
AryanCrusaderXIV do you know that every case that had go back to life after being frozen, was already alive !!!! it's just freezing for several hours ( no real death ), I think if freezing is continued for more hours death will be the consequence. For your information : if death occurs , souls will travel to the new world ( we pray & hope from god Paradise the new real world) ...
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Love how Max states that the room is the most secure room in the building, then proceeds to open the door to the room with a standard household key lol
😂😄😂
Right? I hope they have better system now.
IKR! 😅
@Midousuji Akira They have keycard locks right now so it's safer
Sure if ISIS wanted cryogenically frozen people for their undead army, I guess you'd have a point. Otherwise it's just precautionary measures to protect their patients. Your cynicism is insulting to the science
I wrote to this place a few years ago requesting some technical details for a sci-fi novel I was writing that involves cryonics. The paperwork they sent back weighed about half a pound and was very informative. If I had the folding to pay for this procedure, I'd roll the dice.
Strange Armour you can pay with your life insurance policy. You name Alcore the beneficiary. No money out of pocket!
I noticed your comment regarding this fascinating technology but here´s my question since you actually had the opportunity to read the paperwork: Who guarantees that this company will still exist in 2200 or 2350 when there might be newer tech to "revive" you ? Imagine if it goes financially broke, or the US is bombed by nuclear warheads in some distant future? Who will actually be liable for your body in 300 years from now? Thanks!
exionem
There will no absolute guarantee. Even the company make a disclairement about that.
This is for those who think it's better to take an oportunity rather than rotting under ground.
So you´re basically signing a document that states that they are not liable for "waking" you up in the distant future, albeit you payed around 80 thousand dollars. Hmmm....
Yes. All the risk and oportunity is yours.
you never know about how future will turn out. Better to have 0.00001% chance of seeing it, than none. I will be buying this
only the Almighty can bring you back to life. The Almighty created you once and he can recreate you again.
@@deepthinker2464 shut up already man :D
Deep Thinker agree with you..god is great
@@deepthinker2464 Technically they are not dead, so no need to summon the Almighty.
Deep Thinker the almighty didn’t create me my parents created me and their parents for them all the back to the first Neanderthals which were created by evolution. So nothing related to god!
I suppose there are some very religious people, especially in the United States, who would think this was the "devil's work" so I see why they'd need security.
I'm a lifetime and loving Christian and cryonics intrigues me very much... You are wrong!
AvGeek201 Your personal opinion does not disprove his generalization.
Because you have sick people out there who tried doing sick things and they don't realize what they arguing when they mess with something like this just let it be and if the worst comes it will come to those involved but you two have people in there who are famous like presidents and celebrities so therefore some people just can't help but be sick or curious
Not to mention they probably only want the head people to have access because God forbid is someone in the practice finds out they're dying and needs an organ they have access to many and it's not hard for them to pull an organ out and just revived just the organ so therefore they probably want to protect the patients from any Foul Play
Exactly
This is how sane, civilized people deal with death. No meek, defeatist acceptance, no childish fairy tales, just pure logic and reason.
Parapon3ra well,there are religious people who are criopreserved, religion is not against criopreservation
Tecnovlog There are also religious communists. Doesn't mean anything, except that theists are good at doublethink. Cryonics represents the triumph of reason, while religion represents its (catastrophic) failure. They're not actually compatible, and most cryonicists are, unsurprisingly, atheists.
Parapon3ra no, not really. it's like saying that a religious person should not accept to go to an hospital. this is just another medical treatment, you won't become immortal, just frozen waiting for the cure to the disease that killed you. You can think that if you want but religion and crionics are completely compatible, take a look on the site of alcor and you will see that with your own eyes
Tecnovlog Most theists are really just intellectually lazy conformists. They don't really believe all that religious BS, otherwise they wouldn't go to hospitals when ill, or cry at funerals. True believers don't fear illness or death, those are just temporary discomforts and eternal paradise is just around the corner. For a truly religious person, cryonics would be a (potentially immoral, for trying to interfere with God's plan or whatever) waste of time and money.
Alcor's statements about the compatibility of religion and cryonics are just them being pragmatic. It makes business sense, not actual sense.
Parapon3ra you don't know anything about religion. do you? ask a priest, or a bishob and a rabbi if a believer should go in hospital or what. i don't understand why ahteists people are always pissed off about something, man you think about God than i do. this should tell something about atheists
Waking up 100 years from now, knowing no one, nothing, or the world you once lived in. Not even final death scares me this much. I think I would rather not come back, then to be without my loved ones in a world that will be crazier and colder than it already is. Just imagine the psychological effects if or when these people even come back.
Cool.
Glad I can choose to see what it's like for myself.
You could take your family members with you, life insurance almost always covers it or most of it.
Alcor also have a trust fund for being able to repair and reintroduce you into society so they wont just throw you into a completely different world, and as things are going this might not even be that distant. Although look how far we’ve come since the 90s or 2000s
and u really think they will come back ? Me not sure for this
@@unknownchannel3141 I don’t think anyone ever made the claim..
That you couldn’t
Love ALCOR - a distant Star, only those with great vision can see her light. :)
I'm not sure why so many people are discouraged by this, I find this organization, the people and the science fascinating.
Cryonics is a personal choice people must make for themselves, don't allow yourself to be influenced by others, you only live once.
are you from Indonesia?
I'm a Christian as well really but have a education science base mentality threw education science Info even if it's not non but not bold fiction Ha.
Unfortunately, many of us with extensive knowledge, within the medical field, we still view these procedures as science fiction and plausibly debatable, body mutilation. Especially, the patients that opt for the brain only (head) “preservation” service(s).
As a firm believer, with a thorough understanding of the medical field, the science is just not there for this type of facility. Yes, it’s rather easy to speculate and over-promise in the medical field but sincere MDs will not entertain, suggest, nor participate in this level of assumption science/medicine.
The odds of over-promising and under-delivering are astounding and when exercising applicable science and practical medical diagnosis, one should not allow true professionals to participate or encourage in such reckless and obtuse promises and/or possibilities.
Just my professional opinion.
@@chrisjenkins203 the bots are getting pretty good these days.
Whether this company is doing it for profit or not, the idea seems amazing and I think science will be able to achieve it one day.
They're a non profit.
He is giving an amazingly deep strong content talk. And we're not convinced? I would give my life to this guy, if I see confidence, I see it.
As do I, this is definitely worth consideration for me in the far future. I'm only in my late teens, but that gives this technology decades and decades to evolve and gives me a more and more hopeful chance at a second life to experience when my current one eventually comes to a close. It might be experimental, but I have faith in it.
Seth ノートン lol, we're on the verge of Human Level AGI, after that the impossible happens.
You won't need Cryogenics dude, don't worry about it. Just stay healthy as long as you can.
Heinrich S7 Hmm, good to know
I heard about this guy Steve who got frozen and his wife was supposed to be also frozen when it was her time to go BUT she changed her mind. When Steve wakes up from sleeping time she wont be there....oh well
uff sad history and very bad choice!! only a few people of this 21st century will have the privilege to live again in the next centuries, those who use the science (the frozen ones).
Those using the ancient traditional mortuary burial (the rotten ones) or (the cremated ones), no way.
+hinanochick That breaks my heart... :(
eh eh
AZR NSMX1 Quantum Archaeology, its proven to work.
He can always get a new wife from the future or from the ones that was frozen in Alcor or other cryonic facilities around the country. People know how to adjust and he will definitely find someone else to make him happy.
Pizza delivery for. . . I.C Wiener?
Imagine what it would be like for a journalist of the future covering the first revival, and seeing the first patient actually walk out of the building, after so many decades. 😁
How and who decides when it is time to try reviving and "curing" the dead patients?
Also, can you keep investments going as a dead person, or are you basically broke when you "wake up" 1000 years from now?
begin to bury gold and silver 5 mts underground in your backyard for your second life, these metals will always be valuable jeje.
@108580928845230806986
Yea, but who decides when it is time to try to revive you. Someone has to decide that and if they screw it up, then you are really dead!
*****
I have news for you ... Once the technology is there to cure what usually kills 20th and 21st century humans, it means that the Cryonic institute is out of business. That is, there won't be any new patient getting frozen, since people live practically forever. So my insight is that those frozen may not be revived because it would cost money to do so and the company is out of business.
*****
I would love to be able to come back in the future. Life is great. The possibilities in this Universe are endless. If technology improves and the money is there, I may still go for this.
Peter Davila There is a only a few people frozen, im sure people in a few hundred years or hopefully less will be curious to experience people of the past who will end up being super stars.
Actually guys, she is the producer - so she not only knows all about it but is also paying for the video and considering signing up for Alcor membership.
That's great.
So jealous you got to go, Thanks for giving us the vip look :)
***** People that want to die of traditional way, is sad but blame religion (some religions) for that dogmatic mindset. Please don't blame the Science for that.
Then in the "second life" is better to socialize with people who accept the progress that in the future will be a lot of people.
This is great except for 1 thing: I don’t want to spend eternity in Arizona
Why not? It will be very cool.
Underrated comment.
The second hokage has a better solution than this
Hahahaha reanimation no jutsu
Words do nothing to describe how interesting this is. I mean, its beyond description. I spent ALL DAY sunday, Monday, and YESTERDAY on your website researching this continuously. I think I've read all your reports Its beyond awesome. I would like to talk. I need to learn more. Yes. I still want to learn more. PLEASE RESPOND. THIS IS BEYOND INTERESTING.
10:56 "i'm dying to see it"
I want to see this happen in a video . It would be so cool
Very informative, and quite a professional-looking setup. I would have preferred a less awkward interview style, but still...
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Seems to me like they are trying to keep something INSIDE FROM GETTING OUT of the chambers INSTEAD of someone trying to get in.... Resident Evil Much ??? & THE LAST ONE WITH THAT HUGE CHAIN LOCK ON IT ??? LIKEEE
It's fascinating to see and hear exactly what happens at these facilities. I don't know if I'd want the procedure myself though. As great as it might be, to be brought back to life sometime in the future, nobody can say when, if at all, that will be. Imagine dying, then waking up 1000 years in the future. No family, no friends. All alone in a strange new world.
I would consider that lucky. Imagine paying thousands of dollars to get scammed.
More like a 100 years maximum
I am signing up. I am getting a term life insurance policy separate from the one for my family. It's only like 40.00 a month for a 30 year term.
I realize it most likely won't work. Just like I know I most likely won't win the lottery.
But the remote chance of waking up 400 years from now is well worth it. Even if I only lived another couple of years.
this is awesome
Given enough time, they will come back. Given enough time, we all will. With or without our memories.
Given the exponential rate of growth of technology and it's effects on society, the world will be a VERY different place by the time these people are revived. A systematic reintegration program of education would need to be in place to ease people back into society and "bring them up to speed" so to speak. I think this is very exciting and probably the best way to survive long enough for the Singularity to occur and smarter than human AI can figure out Life Extension, uploading our personalities etc. BTW Nicola, I like your blonde friend, she is as you might say "fentestic" ; )
Excellent commentary. I can only imagine in 500 years ( let´s say tech can revive you from your "dormant" state) how different the world might be that even normal speaking is obsolete. Imagine the confusion a person might have dying in 2075 and waking up in 2575. Fascinating but a bit creepy!
They will never be revived lol
@@animatedant never say never
@@animatedant you know not what youre talking about
@@exionem Its not that long for sure, we already revive organs after deep cryosleep today and even almost completely revived a rabbit brain and that was in 2018!
My voice analysis detects a nervousness in the speaker's voice which indicates that he knows he's lying. It's as clever and innocuous a scam as I've ever seen because the participants have nothing to lose considering their condition when they arrive. Go ahead and turn yourself into a popsicle if that's what makes you happy.
Don't trust this company will still be running 100 years from now.
It is still running :)
It’s still running after 49 years & doesn’t seem to be having any financial issues
It's been running 50 years so far.
There was an experiment with a vitrified rabbit kidney. Google it!
An interesting question would be if the reporter asked the guy if he will be preserving his body :)
30 YERS AGO İ HAVE SEEN ROBOCOP FİLM.A COMPANY LİKE THAT WAS CARRYİNG THE HUMAN BRAİN İNTO A ROBOTİC BODY
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This is the modern day version of methodically preparing deceased Egyptian pharaohs and the outcome will be only marginally better in terms of understanding what people in the past ate and what diseases they had.
"If science one day reigns alone, credulous men will only have scientific credulities." Anatole France.
True, but "If science one day reigns alone" this is sadly not the case for modern society.
god this video is so awkward having all 3 of those people wandering around with him. Very amateur
I want to see them comeback to life. If it works death will be yesterday's worrys.
Is Alcor services available in Africa?
Its a great idea and I hope that they succeed in what they do ....I do doubt it myself...it seems like just a fancy way to die...
techstyle123 well for now is the only option that we have, in the future, maybe around 2050/2060 some say that we will know how to transfer our consciousness inside a computer, but to me it's a little bit unrealistic
***** maybe, we cannot assume something because of the past. It's like saying that we will have light sabers or star trek's level of technology
Thinking the same. Hypnotized peepz.. they truly just missed the entire point of being alive
@@mogi99999 context is there in the tube....lots.....you'll say it is you when fixed
Oh, they're dead. Too much of their brains has been destroyed. They aren't coming back. I'll take my chances in the next world, thank you very much.
Hey what about those serious questions at the end of the video? Did you sign up to become a member yourself?
I want but I cant
Depends on how severe the braindamage is during freezing and how much can be repaired when trying to revive them.
Thank you friend!
I am addressing alcor. I must contact somebody. Do you have any simulation or demonstration videos where we can see the process I am certain it wouldn't be of a real patient but I mean like either a dummy simulation or something where I can see the procedures being carried out.
Alcor is offering one year of Associate Membership to anyone who clicks the like button on this video.
This does not guarantee that you will be cryopreserved should something unexpected and lethal happen to you, but does make it easier to make arrangements in an emergency.
For more information see contact Diane Remeens - diane at alcor dot org and mention “SingularityWeblogBonus” to receive your free Associate Membership.
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to buy Time- what could be better? I want it.
Time is an illusion anyhow
He said there are only 117 patients in there, but in the beginning they said they've frozen 155... So what happened to the other 38 people?
Turned to goo.
This company is very old, although it was not called Alcor in the 60s they did freeze people, but for only show purposes, that time they did not know anything about antifreeze
This question was actually addressed during the tour friend - each tank can survive for 6 to 8 months without refilling of nitrogen because their excellent insulation retains internal temperature for a very long time...
probably 6-8 weeks
@@sergeyleshchuk2866 yes it is by weeks, I think he got it wrong
This is actually fascinating information. I don't believe for a minute that revival of any of these "patients" is going to be possible for hundreds of years at best, if ever, but the engineering of their systems is at least laudable. The boiloff rates for those huge dewars are highly impressive. Even assuming 20 dewars at a boiloff of 15 L/day each gives just 300 L/day total. This is such a modest volume of liquid that a small LN2 plant on site could easily be powered by a moderately sized solar panel array on the roof (they're in AZ after all) and they wouldn't even need to rely on external delivery services at all.
100s of years is absolutely what we're thinking of. Imagine explaining an airplane or cellphone to someone in the year 1700. If we look at this from the lense of someone in 2023 it seems out of reach, but if this is an option in the year 2300, that would mean that we have probably also conquered most forms of aging, disease prevention etc. That being said -- big pharma is only going to get bigger as time goes on so they have an interest in never fully curing all diseases and inventing new ones to keep their machine going.
I bet that will be a museum for the people in 200 years
Why is Alcor not located in Phoenix? No, really.
lol
Michael Bowie because Scottsdale is where the people worth this kind of money live. It's right outside Phoenix and you can get there in 20 minutes or less from some parts of the valley depending on traffic. Phoenix traffic actually gets really congested do this location is smarter in that sense.
Big reason I can think of is large cities like Phoenix would be ground zero targets in a nuclear war.
Arthur C. Clarke formulated the following three "laws" of prediction:
1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is probably wrong.
you need to update the video on your main website - i.e its 2007 - square monitors!
Was that an old Dell Dimension at 4:34 ?
I was kind of expecting cryonics to be a little higher tech.
this tops everything i have seen this century so far..
spread the word friend! ;-)
Why would they bring any of theses people back they’ve already received their money.
I hope they can bring that person back to life
thanks! do you know if a portion of the funds are reserved for rehabilitation assuming all goes and one is successfully revivified?
Yes most of it is.
Yes, people dont understand how cheap it is to run these tanks, each tank holds around 6-10 people, they dont use electricity just liquid nitrogen, if you buy in bulk it costs well around 5 cents per gallons, normally the nitrogen needs to be changed around every 2 week, thats very cheap. You also pay a monthly membership that is enough to maintain tanks for a long time. The most expensive thing really is to build those tanks which is a one time purchase. On top of everything the company is non profit meaning everything they have goes back into it.
Hope this helps
about neuropreservation... would one be expected to reserve funds for a new body and if so how much?
No additional funds needed, molecular nanotechnology in tandem with bio-regenerative stem cell technology will one day be able to grow entire bodies.
Fascinating. Posted this on Reddit.
I don't know friend but that is a question I should have asked. Best thing to do is to get in touch with Alcor directly via their website...
Ha, this is an important question Chris so the answer to the first part is "YES" - you should reserve funds for a new body. As to how much, since we have no clue, I would dare say - as much as possible! ;-)
I just have two questions that i would like to get more information about.
1.Do you have to have a disease such as cancer to be cryogenically frozen or can it be by natural death.
2. Can minors become Alcor members and are there any children patients?
1. No, you don't have to have cancer or another identifiable disease. You only have to be declared "legally dead" for us to proceed. That, of course, is from real, biological, irreversible death.
2. Yes, minors can become members and we do have quite a few families who have made arrangements together. Our youngest patient to date is 21.
Max More At one point you mentioned that you want to be neuro preserved because due to wear and tear on the human body by the time old age sets in. Can you sign a contract to be neuro preserve if you live past a certain age, but whole body preserved if you die suddenly at a young age?
The tubes hold 4 body-preservation patients and 5 neuro-preservation patients each.
So the glass is bullet proof, the walls have kevlar, yadda, yadda, yadda... Proceeds to open a normal ass door with a single normal ass key. LOL
Relatives are in fact allowed to visit. You can't open the tanks for what I think are obvious reasons... And yes, all 117 are in there...
Singularity Weblog That's really uncomfortable your going to go there and talk to a thermos?
to design a bodies without a heads for reattachment of the "neuro only" patients' heads is going to take a long time for the technology be able to do that. I almost want to say it would be impossible unless you grew a clone human being to adulthood and then decapitated this new person to replace it with the neuro patient's head. All the small vessels and realignment of bones and healing of the spinal cord to the brainstem is extremely complex. I would think that even if they are able to heal a dead person's brain to reanimate, that will be it for the next few hundred years and the neuro patients would probably be a head living in a glass case like you see in science fiction shows.
Yeah, that's the disadvantage about lower budget cryonics ($80.000).
I am afraid when there is a way to revive someone from death, there will be no people that invest again on this company. So they will run out money and cannot keep the brain anymore.
Maybe they can revive the full body immediately as soon as the reviving technology invented. But the brain only still can't because it's need further technology more.
At that point, the people that preserve brain only will left without a clear fate.
@@Eza_yuta That's why you choose the whole body option just gather 20000$ and do it
I assume many "neuro patients" are waiting to be "uploaded" into a simulation or to get a robotic body. If immortality is the goal then a new cloned adult human body is just kicking the can another 60-80 years, unless it is engineered to not age.
Yeah, he didn't mention what would happen to the preserved brain .....maybe they hope to be somehow linked up to an AI?
Creepy! 😬😬😬
about the brain cells can they preserve them ?
Great Nikola!!! Great, Great!... Just... Great! - Thanks!
Out of curiosity,
So you pay $200,000 for full body and $80,000 for just the head and this is just to froze your body and preserve them until the technology is advanced enough for them to reanimate the body.
But my question is, how will the company have the budget to reanimate the body and keep the company running for a long time. Don't get me wrong, this isn't cheap but at a $200k, you can buy a normal house.
Just something about the cost get me to think about the future for the company and the patient.
If the company still exists in hundreds of years from now and the frozen bodies haven't been towed out most likely the future US government would resurrect them with the help of scientists/androids and then they would immediately become test subjects for society to inspect on like an animal in a cage,this would be the case unless they decide to let them go and integrate into the future society of which they would wake up to,for all this to happen though first humanity would still need to exist and also a technology would need to be intevented that could revive and heal frozen dead people
Does the squid act almost a whirlpool in the water??
What if you don't freeze the body while giving circulating the body? He/she might wake up??? I mean he/she might be dead because the heart is not not supplying enough blood to the brain and oxygen. But pumping the chest by machines might do it?
Yes, he did mention the possibility of someone waking up....they give the person Propofol (general anaesthetic) so that they don't wake up.
I am so signing up for this
the most expensive graveyard (I think..) that's also a time machine
They are frozen. A perfect point to repair damaged organs. Make the ice crystals small enough and they will not damage the cells. While the brains activities have stopped (meaning death), all of the memories are still there. That's all physical. We will eventually figure out how to restart the brain, bringing them back to life. Really it would be like bringing a clone back to life unless you can make the brain keep functioning but really slow, then it would just be waking up.
Are you addressing Alcor or Singularity Weblog ?!
great job Nikola!
These people are lunatics.
“ you shall be known as...Hans Singular!” - Creepio
Such a facility should be underground
fascinating. how amazing
Indeed. It's great in intself. But so unsure about teh results. Scary cool. Greets Netherlands
I understand the thinking, but I still find this phenomena so strange.
I wonder how much we still don't know about this idea, and the potential for brain death when/if they finally figure out reviving them. And, like he said, the potential for glucose in the bloodstream freezing in spikes and puncturing cell walls seems very high.
Also, does the service stipulate that you will be revived as soon as they know how?
Does the patient specify their 'revival' date?
Does the patient pay a subscription? If so, what if their funds run out?
If not, does the patient choose how long they be frozen for? Is there a larger fee for the 'indefibite' option?
Its just such an ethical and medical mindfield...
Also, the neuropreservation part just reminded me of futurama.
Please give these guys another chance for God's sake.
knees weak, arms are heavy
there's my shot at immortality
oh, here's mom's spaghetti
I wouldn't want to do this.
If i had that sort of money, I'd rather put it towards buying my own house instead of renting.
I'm really shocked that they only have 117 "patients" though!
I would have thought there would be many more!
Thanks, quite interesting too see it this closely.
Nope I would rather donate my organs to someone who needs it that would be like me still living on this earth when my time is up.
They're screwing it up
Has anyone ever volunteered to be frozen and brought back? Just to see if can be done?
AlloK I asked them that. They told me that would be murder. I’m sure someone would volunteer for it. Put an add in the prison system I’m sure a person in for life would volunteer.
how did you have the most secure building in the street than a house key entry? the future is already behind you?
Hey stadium, we are in Algeria, and I am particularly interested in this method, which is to preserve the body after death. It urges freezing because it has not been collected at the global level. We urgently need it in Algeria. There is one corpse from South Africa that urges freezing. Thank you, spread in Algeria
I just hope I don't die during deployment so I can eventually be Cryonically Frozen. Whether it pans out or not, better than alternative arrangements such as Burial, Creamtion, or Aquamation(you don't want to know). I'd leave mementos behind. Maybe even arrange for Neural Cryonic Freezing and have my body cremated and put in an urn for Family. Although it would be weird as hell to wake up and just know the rest of me is in a metal canister somewhere lost to time. Idk, Neural or Full Body. What would you choose?
So these people are looking to come out? anytime soon?
Not for at least 200 more years
What a way of making money, once your dead your dead there no reviving ever again!
What kind of medicines are injected, that keep organs alive
Awesome video! :-)
They should try to bring someone back with current technology
And that for them, the decades between their deaths and "resurrections" will seem like no time at all...
Can this facility survive nuclear bomb attack or even EMP bomb which will be used against USA
So has anyone ever been successfully brought back out of this? Or is it just Man in a Can, the new way to be buried?
but God holding souls after death it's going to be zombie body has no soul
AryanCrusaderXIV Well for starters in those cases those people didn't have their blood pumped out , replaced with a kind of anti freeze , and put into a tube for years. In most cases they were revived within an hour years in a tube frozen your not coming back. And until they do revive a person I will have that opinion.
Who came back to the life from those nitrogen tanks who is alive today
AryanCrusaderXIV
do you know that every case that had go back to life after being frozen, was already alive !!!!
it's just freezing for several hours ( no real death ), I think if freezing is continued for more hours death will be the consequence.
For your information : if death occurs , souls will travel to the new world ( we pray & hope from god Paradise the new real world) ...