Emoji and the Levitating Businessman - Computerphile
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Unicode is changing, adding tons more icons and smilies - But what's new and why? Tom Scott takes us through the improvements...
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Hello! I'm from year 2050. We have Unicode 26 now, and each character is now encoded by 64 bytes. We have 200 separate poop emojis, including liquid stool and dog poop.
Don't be ridiculous. Everyone know's it'll be OVER 9000!
nice troll
What version did remove backwards compatibility and variable sized characters for fixed size characters?
Defective Turret Oh really? I totally thought he was a legit time traveler.
im watching this in 900,000,000,000,5 humans have moved from earth to another planet and aliens met earthlings i am a robot with a 500terabyte processor core and humans are in a giant war
He says "they've added wingdings" like someone would say "They've planted a bomb".
(It's at 7:26)
There is a bomb symbol in wingdings.
"They have a cave troll"
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I love that you can express most emotions as emojii. But alternatively, you can also express those same emotions, as a cat. #Japan
:3
○W○
UwU
There's 9 cat faces with emotions. What they should do is that you take a regular smiley face, then add an animal face to it. So you do: 😢+🐱 and get 😿. The benefit of this is that you don't have to encode these cat faces separately. This is what they currently do with some emoji like 👨🌾 (farmer), which is 👨+🌾. It's not just that series of combined characters, that would just show up as 👨🌾, but there is a special combining character in Unicode that is inserted in between. This is done my the emoji keyboard itself. So you should be able to hold down on 😢 and get 😿 as an option. Second benefit is that they can also add a dog face, fox face and more animals.
@@Liggliluff That would be amazing. Of course, I'm sure something makes implementing that much harder than it needs to be, as is the norm for big universal standards, but it's definitely possible. Of course, then you'll have all the ignorant shitstains going "Ew furry emojis."
... I wonder how long it'd take to make each new glyph... or how much larger emoji font files will get as a result...
Unicode 10: Memes in a character
Unicode 11: Viral videos in a character
Unicode 30: The complete records of the Unicode consortium in a character
yup
31: let's go back to ASCII
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Unicode did add some stuff like the selfie emoji in the time since the main comment
@@stgigamovementyep 🤳
What i just realized watching this is that Unicode is so awesome its crazy. It's basically a universal code, just like he said. With all that implies. Something universal has to have a lot of stuff because different cultures express things differently, it's going to have a lot of people going "why is X not here?" and "wtf is that, and why is that in here?" because, again, different people have different things they know and don't know. It may be the closest we've gotten to a universal language.
Have to take a line from Scott Adams:
There are 9 competing standards.
"Hey guys, let's make a standard that covers all the above use cases!"
There are now 10 competing standards.
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Isn't that Randall Munroe, not Scott Adams?
@@qwertyTRiG he modified that “quote” and drew it into a comic
And thats why Unicode was made. Unicode is THE standard. This all happened because it had to account for every prior encoding.
Best emoji ever > presenting the slightly unevenly shaded square -
🌫🌫🌫🌫
agree
mist :P
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Levitating businessman emoji originated from webdings font character 'm' designed by Vincent Connare (who also created comic sans font). Businessman itself was based off the mascot of 2 Tone Records record label (who mostly published ska and reggae music). The mascot, in turn, was based on a photograph of reggae singer Peter Tosh.
"Almost certainly a little pile of poo". - Tom Scott.
/r/nocontext
Someone post it on that subreddit. I'm too lazy.
Or an eggplant
Seriously, it's amazing how you can be so entertaining but still educate and explain things so well. I wouldn't mind taking classes by you if you gave any
I've started learning HTML, and finally understand the at the end of the video! I didn't even realize that it was a kind of in-joke, I just thought the formatting was there to look technical. Awesome!
"I'm probably mispronouncing that, but I'm an English speaker, so that's what I do."
My new favorite quote/motto.
"love hotel" I think we all know what that is...
He he
metalpachuramon I've been to one, they're great
huehuehue
🏩
Bilz T It's a brothel, isn't it? 🏩
Why don't they include musical notation. That means stuff
Unicode actually does include music notation, there's just no way to use it to actually write music without music writing software
@@ielenia64 thats kinda odd, they have zero width joining characters to append families together into one symbol you think they could do the same thing to make musical notation work.
they did add it in unicode
if your system support it, this will appear as musical notation:
if you see boxes then your system don't support it... though you might have luck copy pasting it into your musical software
@@JadeNeoma I think that’s what music typesetting software does. It’s just that text input/typesetting is oriented towards regularly sized rows and columns. Music requires precise horizontal and vertical positioning, along with things like stretching and rotating markings (ties and slurs and bars connecting notes). You could cobble something together in a vector editor or page layout editor that provides transformations and scaling, but it would be tedious. Actual music typesetting software takes care of the most tedious parts of that for you.
@@YayaVT to me this looks like
? 🐴? ❓ ? ⛳️
Tom Scott has the most peculiar way of sigh his frustration XD
Anyone remember the times when we had font designers who made sure every character matched the whole text and nothing stood out in an irritating way?
Great video, as usual! One quick note: the initial emoji implementation on iOS was actually using code points in the Private Use Area. They most certainly weren’t “using the standard” at that point.
And it's really annoying, since all the plugins to add color emoji to Firefox use the old code points in the private use area. Fortunately, Windows 8.1 is getting color emoji in Firefox 32. (I hope it will work in other Windows versions, but I'm not sure. You would need the emoji font.)
I'm learning Japanese now and I always thought the idea of Emoji was pretty much a visualized kanji.
an "internet kanji" if you will.
On the original Japanese cellphones, emoji were slotted into unused parts of Japanese character sets where there wasn't any Kanji or Kana assigned, and emoji visually take up the width of a Kanji (especially on the original emoji sets as well as on UnifontEX and GNU Unifont+Upper, where they even do so in pixel size), in all their square-cell glory. The sections of Japan's text encodings where emojj were slotted in were also sometimes used by Japanese fonts elsewhere to store rarer Kanji that weren't formally part of said text encoding standards.
So, from a technical standpoint, your description isn't far off. Especially considering that Kanji are distant descendants of the ancient Oracle Bone and Bronze Script characters, which were outright pictographs.
Well done, welcome back in Egypt. Hieroglyph are back!
"Apple, why have you added a symbol for love hotel? And what is a love hotel? And I'm not answering that on this video." Pffft hahahahaha.
Am I the only one who finds the robot poster distracting?
very!
+Alkesta You are not alone. In fact I believe it to be conspiracy due to the fact they reorganized the zoom to include only the host's head and that godawful compelling robot poster.
not necessarily
Is it supposed to be bender
No
No wonder why my smiley faces always come out as a J!
I had a teacher whose first name started with J. I typed "Thanks 😀" and it came out the other end as "Thanks J." Not very pleasant... :P
***** ☺
Hey, it's Victor Tran!
Less than a year later, Tom went on to present the first Emoji Keyboard.
Interesting note is that Android (and presumably non-Japanese iPhones prior to iOS 4) could send and receive non-unicode emoji using MMS before the unicode implementation hit Western phones.
Important note... I'm fairly sure emoji was available on iOS in America BEFORE iOS 4, just not officially. I remember very early on (possibly iPhone 1, but I think it was later) there were apps on the app store that would add a custom font to the iPhone's existing Japanese keyboard, allowing it to show proper emojis.
Legend says Tom is still scrolling through his keyboard for _that_ emoji
I still use Wingdings sooooo often in my Excel sheets. A folder icon for a on pc folder hyperlink, a webpagey icon for an online hyperlink, arrows, etc and the most important one that I use are ü and û which are the correct tick and wrong cross. Extremely useful for low intensity and low resource heavy visualisation to make things more clear.
I♥JK
It's readable on the device it was made for. Our normal desktop pc's, that's called optimisation in contrast to being somewhat readable on obscure devices that Excel completely isn't meant for.
apt-get install ms-corefonts
Or equivalent.
I've watched 3 different videos now about him explaining how emojis were invented, and each time he explains it a little differently. It's kinda cool.
It just occurred to me, there were apps (literally apps on the App store) that will unlock the emoji keyboard for you as early as iOS 3, and when iOS 5 came along they finally made it available to everyone without needing said apps.
I remember using those long ago.
so emoji basically mean emotion kanji... i been wondering why the hell it's call emoji.. now its make sense..
+Calvin Zero Not really emotion kanji, "Ji" just generally means symbol or character. So "kanji" means "chinese characters", "romaji" means "roman characters", etc, which makes "emoji" just "emotion characters"
Edit: Sorry, I thought they took the "emo" from emotion since they often use anglicisms for these things, but apparently it's actually "E-moji" with "E" for "picture" and "moji" for "letter". So it's "picture letters". Should've looked the spelling up in a dictionary before replying, my bad. The similarity to "emotion", which would've made perfect sense, is probably just one of these strange language coincidences.
+Liam Baker in that case it should be pronouced "eh-moh-jih" then? law.
+Will Ferrous Lol I always pronounce it that way...
Yeah ji means character in Japanese. In korean itsy is pronounced ja.
The similarity to 'emotion' (and 'emoticon') is actually coincidental. The _e-_ part means 'picture', and _moji_ means 'character'.
(it's 絵文字 in kanji if anyone is curious)
You know what would be really silly? If someone tried to create a social media app entirely based on emojis. 😉
I really like the way this guy speaks to the audience. It sounds like he's speaking directly to regular people, and it's fantastic. It's a small difference, but it's really noticeable.
Yay, Tom Scott! :D
Yay,, OmegaCraftable! :D
No serious, I love your channel
IamMINCHO Yay, YouareMINCHO.
Sorry, I don't know you.
Jacob Smith I bet you are either an American or a Jew ,perhaps both.
I must say that Tom is my favourite of Computerphiles guest presenters.
>be me, be Australian
>buy an android phone
>auto correct spelling is wrong
>switch from English US to English UK
>mfw no dollar symbol
here's one... $
1. That's why you should have English AU as an option; which is English UK with a $ symbol instead.
2. On desktop, you can get $ from the key beside £, and on Android, you can long press on £ to access $
Google's keyboard: Gboard, has English Australia as an option.
@@Liggliluff I no longer own the phone that had this issue, or it was fixed in a software update...
@@Liggliluff lol "$ from the key beside £".. except £ doesn't exist on Australian keyboards because despite using the UK dictionary, we use US keyboard layout
as in:
~!@#$%^&*()_+
`1234567890-=
(But yeah as mentioned the problem was solved at some point within the past 6 years.. just about everything has an English(AU) option now with the right mix)
@@Liggliluff Australian keyboards use the US key layout so it's more convenient for a random user to have US keyboard + UK spellcheck. All of the components are there to make it happen, so the AU option should be a 5 minute job at most.
I don't know why, but I just love watching this guy getting upset about this stuff. He's hilarious and I learn things at the same time.
It sounds like the emotion Tom was going for at the end there was actually 🙃
And now we have an emoji movie...
🕴
🕴
🕴️
very pissed that the Australian flag wasn't added at all.
we're a bloody continent for pete's sake. a continent...
Unicode flags are done via joining components. The Australian flag does exist in Unicode via this method.
I remember way back in the day learning about the secret emoji keyboard and telling people how to get it on their iPhone. Surprising how big it has become now.
Tom Scott is my waifu.
I gotta agree with you there.
...That name PERFECTLY describes your comment.
No just a follower.
HF, aaaaaayyyyyyyyy (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞
is that katara?
I know it's been almost a decade, but: 3:05 Never mind garbled emoji; text messaging didn't work at all across providers in Japan, i.e. the "walled-off" state mentioned earlier in the video. That's why everyone had switched to e-mail for "texting" there a decade before smartphones.
Regarding what the video mentions about being able to do two-way conversion of documents to and from Unicode, you would assume that because they happened on cellphones from an era long before easy computer transfer that there would be no documents easily available. Sure, some devices like the DP211SW had text editor and computer transfer but it was expensive. So many cheaper phones didn't have this. But the key element here is e-mail. Let's say that you e-mail someone whose e-mail is accessible on both their phone and their computer. The phone does what the carrier wants, but on a computer, one can save and even print e-mails. So a lot of emoji-containing documents from back in the day would be emails sent from a Japanese cellphone with emoji support to people who use the same email on their computer and Japanese cellphone and save their emails to documents on their computer. Also, it's why GMail had to have all the sets available (which they did prior to Unicode via PUA codepoints).
I don't really see the big deal - Emoji is a great; its like the evolution of the sideways punctuational smileys. It allows for basic communication that has no language barriers. Obviously it would have been great if the Internet could have submitted and voted on designs but I think it is a great example of modern communication.
Instant messengers have provided the option to turn ASCII smileys into little pictures for ages and it was always the first thing I switched off. Now what, do I need an app that turns emoji into ASCII where possible?
When they start inventing animated emoji, I'm gonna quit civilization and move into the mountains.
Penny Lane Have you seen what happens in instant messengers to pasted in text sometimes? Smileys where they dont belong, etc?
They prevent that with 'shift' characters, but that just leads to boxes all over the place meaning unknown character xD There is no real answer, and symbolic languages will continue to make more emoji, and since the internet will force these seemingly unnecessary emoji on the world, the problem will continue.
Richard Smith True, that thing with the accidental smileys was even more annoying but I would have switched that feature off anyway. I want my text to look homogeneous and not have pictures inserted in it. I did that in elementary school myself, drawing pictures instead of writing nouns but my taste has changed since then. I mean typographically literate people even use text figures sometimes because lining figures stand out too much in a text. Colored comic faces intermingled with text? What a horrible idea! _Animated_ colored comic faces? Shoot me now.
@@unvergebeneidHey, if you don't mind, I'd like to know if you still hold this opinion a decade later
People can submit emoji proposals to Unicode, so in a sense, the internet DOES have a say, and individuals can join the Unicode Consortium if they're committed to doing so.
I really like how you're explaining things :)
imode encoded emoji in unicode.. what you are suggesting makes it sound like when unicode was originally conceived they thought they had to map into unicode and that's why emoji is there. AFAIK the 3 major encodings for Japanese prior to the widespread use of unicode include stuff like symbols for musical notes that pre-date imodes use of private unicode address space.
OMG BRADY WTF HAPPENED TO YOU HAIR!!?!?! D:
TheDarkFalcon my mate Sean makes these videos... >Brady
TheDarkFalcon i
Okay cool, thanks Tom :D :P
Okay, now explain the orange rounded square with a white cross in it known as 'EIGHT POINTED BLACK STAR'.
Angela Brett ✴️
Tom's anxiety and frustration makes this soooo much more entertaining. Love this guy!
I truly enjoyed this because my sneaky niece turned that emoji keyboard on my iphone one day. I started wondering who came up with these and why we need so many of them!!
This guy cares so much.
Great as always!
More Tom Scott please :)
I love to hear you speaking about unicode
What would we do without someone like Tom to explain to us.
You know this really raises an interesting topic I'd love to see covered in a Computerphile vid. When is it time to retire legacy support from the mainstream core support product to niche expansions for enterprise requiring 30 year legacy support and similar legacy interests.
Is that Rena in your prof pic?
UntoldAnimations It is.
UntoldAnimations Yes.
The problem is that your problem is the exact opposite of the problem Unicode is trying to solve. The fact that Unicode is extending into character sets used solely by professional linguists and archaeologists trying to figure out scripts that in some cases have not been used by any living human for thousands of years should tell you that Unicode is not about worrying about "legacy support", but rather achieving universality. It's practically right there in the name.
delusionnnnn
Yeah, and I personally applaud that Unicode is aimed at support for the entirety of human writen language, but the general perceptual issues regarding the inclusion of some of the stuff in there like Emoji and Windings is directly tied to the issue of long term legacy support, which is what put me in mind of it here.
UntoldAnimations Yes that is Rena. She's kinda the avatar that I had when I decided to try and keep the same avatar across all my online dealings.
***** Fanboy Thanks to both of you for answering UntoldAnimations regarding my avatar, it's greatly appreciated.
"1999 and we go to Japan"
Tom is a weeb
This clip turned out to be more interesting than I first thought - thanks! :)
Wohooo a tom scott video for computerphile!!!
Within seven seconds... a Monty Python reference! Nice one!
I hope they add all the 4 chan meme faces.
+agun17 Troll face would be very useful
no
The most iconic Twitch emotes, too, and I'm not joking here. I really need a Kappa for my messaging. A PogChamp and DansGame would also be of great use.
I remember having Emoji in iOS3, you'd have to download a separate app for it and install it or whatever.
Also I remember with Digital 8 tapes and whatnot, you'd get a bunch of stickers like Emojis.
Brilliant. Thanks Tom
Unicode needs to make the skintone modifier work on food and other emojis. That way you could send someone a rotten eggplant.
Every time someone starts down the "Computing is Racially/[fill in your favorite ism] biased", I bashed my head against the table. Yes. it is. It was not done so out of malice. The nerds who were making this happen were trying to make it happen. 8 bits has limits.
1 recommendation to folks.
When naming a file, please feel free to use whatever characters are at hand. If you want to avoid problems, if you constrain yourself to A-Za-z0-9-._ you will never be able to calculate how much money you save. You will save yourself money though. I can't tell you how much time I have spent dealing with problems in the abstraction layers because of spaces, slashes, colons, semicolons etc...
Being clever is awesome. Being simple is better.
Tom Scott is the king of explanations.
I had no idea Emoji were unicode characters... This information explans so many things! 😃
Interestingly enough, the original DOS ASCII character set had two symbols at 0x01 and 0x02 with smiley faces. And it was actually diverse - one symbol was black, the other white (which is about as diverse as you could get considering the limitations of machines at the time).
Although you'd have to be very careful designing something to display them, as they were actually control characters.
And to be honest, I don't think it's actually a bad thing. It allows one to express oneself, and from a technical standpoint takes minimal bandwidth, being only a single character.
what if instead of a monolithic "unicode" we had smaller groupings of characters (e.g. english lang, japanese, emoji, etc..) that each had their own ID label? i feel like this type of abstraction would make char streams easier (for humans) to handle. (basically each char is mapped as {group, char}, where group is the group ID, and char is the ID of the char within that group (for instance the english 'A' could be mapped as {English, A} (except it would be mapped as numbers probably) (i know too many parentheses : ) )))
That's not miles from how Unicode works, except Unicode does it on a byte level.
And then you would need Unicode, to unify them.
This guy makes learning fantastic
that painting in the back in awesome!!
but whats a love hotel?
I was using emojis before the iPhone ever existed, so blaming it for for the rest of the world using emojis is wrong
Your awesome Tom Scott!
I love this guy. So passionate and funny. Cracks me up!
Didn't IMs have emojis before all this (and by this I mean apple, not the original Japanese company)? IMs were my first exposure to emojis. And then Faecbook chat got them as well (probably to mimic the former). I always thought it was Apple just copying from that.
The difference is that they were using ASCII punctuations to make various faces that would be converted to pictures by the respective IM app. At the end they were just cleverly used existing ASCII characters.
Emojis are seperate independent characters.
IM: :)
Emoji: ☺
Shreya Dahal Or in some cases, using BBC (Bulletin-board code) to replace words with images.
Shreya Dahal That's an emoticon vs an emoji
+Alex Shannon Not ITV? 😛
denelson83 ?
Tom is so cute lol
what a time to be alive
There's so much room in Unicode we should put all these different cultural languages and all font faces!! It's a great way to record this aesthetic era
What is a love hotel?
+Dan Mahoney It's sort of an extended bedroom for couples who felt it'd be too awkward to do their businesses in their homes.
🏩
I think they can be rented hourly or something? Also, I don't know if it's common, but I've heard someone talk of using them if you were travelling and just needed to take a nap during the day.
Poly Flipped How discrete
But why 7 train emojis? Why???
Because Japan
Tom Scott is without any doubt THE best at ranting about anything he feels is quite frustrating!
Yes! Tom Scott!
why do emojis need a skin color? smileys just used to have no color, or they were yellow. who gives a fuck? they're an abstract representation of a mood.
Here's a black smiley for you ⚫
Bob Bobson Here's another ☻
Bob Bobson I think someone without skin color would sorta look like they don't have skin on at all...
Bob Bobson ☺ and ☻
Bob Bobson Because not including every skin color is politically incorrect. As it turns out, adding them just brings more issues. I say screw political correctness, it has led to nothing but trouble.
Bob Bobson I'm using chrome. All I see is a box with an x through it. What have I been missing?
I can't seem to find the piracy symbol Tom mentioned, but this guy🕴is hiding in the activity section of the emoji keyboard. There's another type of emoji keyboard you can add to your phone by selecting the Japanese/Kala keyboard in settings. The emojis will be under the ^_^ button (scroll up once you press it). And if you want a 3rd emoji keyboard (and like snl), if you have the snl app on your phone it also has an emoji keyboard you can turn on in settings. Alright, I'm gonna stfu now.
Emm Mercury ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Emm Mercury 🕴
The Unicode consortium sound like a real exciting bunch! ...
I don't know if you'll answer this, but the imote that you mentioned at the start of the video, how is t spelled in romaji?
✔
this guy looks way to young for his hair
That Guy he's 30 in this video
I'm pretty sure he's 29 in this video
Man, I love a good rant. Educational too.
I neeeed that bender poster. Also I love your video's, Scott. Very informative and understandable for somebody who doesn't have more then 2 hours of programming experience.
OJJVZ video's ... what?are you missing a word there
OK2BCK nope. what part don't you understand? 3 correct sentences there as far as I know :P
Not sure what the problem is? Letters themselves are just symbols of simpler form. As long as they are universally displayed the same, any number of Emoji can be represented. It will be up to people to figure out how their international neighbors interpret those symbols. (Honestly, mr. british guy, that two-fingered salute was an american "peace" sign)
The emojis were yellow. Not white or black. They were neutral. They were fine as they were, adding in skin color was just unecessary.
And no, asians are not walking sunflowers --_--
I think it's a cool addition. It's like complaining about how Sushi was never meant to do this or that in all these other countries. CALIFORNIA ROLLS?! Why I never! SUSHI WAS FINE WITHOUT THESE AMERICANS MESSING WITH IT! IT WAS FINE BEFORE!
Guy Incognito 🎩 My point is that emojis does not have to be complex and have skin color. They are there in order to describe a feeling or a situation without using words, not for showing someone what emoji matches your skin color the most.
Wellstar It's not complex though. It's just a modifying character. Unicode already has a lot of modifiers and already has to deal with things that are even more complex than just a simple character modifier. Han unification for instance.
Guy Incognito 🎩 Yeah, but a lot of people claimed emojis to be racist because it didn't have other colors.
Unicode is supposed to be universal. Even if you consider it to be "neutral" that is unacceptable. It has to support everyone individually.
OMG, I just wanted to give Tom a big hug and tell him not to worry so much.
:) ; )
Yay Tom Scott, love that guy!
There should be an emoji for the Vulcan symbol.
🖖🖖🏻🖖🏼🖖🏽🖖🏾🖖🏿
Oh my god it's just Smileys.
I've never seen it that way. Thanks for the introduction to this topic. 😏🤜⚡🤛
You should make your own app with all the symbols you want, Tom Scott. Then share it with us.
💀👽💀👽💀👽💀👽💀👽💀👽💀👽💀
I *guarantee* you that if some country in Africa had invented their own electronic emojis, totally separate from western civilization, they would also be yellow, or some other weird color. Nothing to do with race at all.
Skin-colored emojis just look weird. You’re getting a bit too close to the uncanny valley.
To serve their purpose, they need to be abstract and cartoony, not a hyper-realistic rendering of a severed head with an emotion.
Congrats on 7 videos!
When Tom says "And that...."
I'm waiting for "something you might not have known"