All of my confusion from my comment from the last video has been explained, thank you for convering that! I probably would have never read his comment :D
I did not expect you to make a full vid on this. Thanks for highlighting that info. It def affected my desire to get her stared up. Horus is def a very good char. She is certainly not as good as the skill descriptions would have you believe. She will still shut down 2 enemy unit's rage skills until at least turn 3, and she will be doing a LOT of damage to those 2 units in the mean time, using False Moon at least twice, while they are less than 4 rage for the added damage from that. Chiraha basic attack is considered a debuff, so plopping her in front of Horus will proc her added damage for debuffed units. Burn also counts as a debuff, so she works well in burn teams too. Shes still a beast. Im not sure Im going to go for more than the 1 copy I pulled of her right now though.
From my understanding from the skills she was worse than what i know now, so now i know how to act if im up against her in PvP which is a huge help! Thank you very much for your testing and explaination!
see, even you have the column and row terms mixed. 3:30 Columns are up and down, think of it like columns in a building. Rows go horizontal, think of rows of corn in a field. but yes, echocalypse is messed up for terminology. they need a better translation crew that proofreads this stuff before release, especially with the kind of money involved in this game
My team currently consists of: Aiken 3*, Kiki 3*, Gryph 0*, Levia 0*, Chiriha 0* and Nephtys 0*. I just got a Horus, should I put her into my team and if so, who should I replace?
From what I tested, Horus works better in spot 4 if you want to counter Aiken in pvp. Cus of her skill, you still want her in backline because you want enemy to consume rage so she deals more dmg. Honestly positioning gets complicated if you unlock the * part where she does more dmg to debuff units. The first neolith wont activate till after spot 4 goes, so you need her in spot 5, but that means you counter Aiken less. So you forced to run control unit with her. Im running Niz in my horus pvp team so I can keep her on spot 4 to counter Aiken
Yes. It doesnt show up as a token over the enemy, but if you tap on either enemy after she hits, then you will see the defense down listed under debuffs. So Horus will get the extra debuff damage once on the front row enemy, and twice on the back row enemy. Thats because Chiraha basic is a 2 round debuff, and debuffs clear as the opponents act, and not at the full end of the round.@@Creamiest_Mayo
Depends a bit on context. The whole round is when all 6 chars on both teams act. But you'll notice that things like debuffs tick down in turns when the unit the debuff is on takes its action in the turn. So for things like debuffs, the round ends when the char its applied to acts, and not at the full end of the round when all 12 chars have gone. Its why burn damage can kill an enemy before it acts, and not after everyone acts.@@Leitari
They should really offer a refund. This ability is mistranslated in like 4 different ways. And she is worse in multiple ways because of this. I thought she would gain rage the whole battle. I also thought she would gain rage before her turn. Neither are true, so she's worse than I was expecting. :(
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All of my confusion from my comment from the last video has been explained, thank you for convering that! I probably would have never read his comment :D
Haha np! It was important enough to discuss
I did not expect you to make a full vid on this. Thanks for highlighting that info. It def affected my desire to get her stared up. Horus is def a very good char. She is certainly not as good as the skill descriptions would have you believe. She will still shut down 2 enemy unit's rage skills until at least turn 3, and she will be doing a LOT of damage to those 2 units in the mean time, using False Moon at least twice, while they are less than 4 rage for the added damage from that. Chiraha basic attack is considered a debuff, so plopping her in front of Horus will proc her added damage for debuffed units. Burn also counts as a debuff, so she works well in burn teams too. Shes still a beast. Im not sure Im going to go for more than the 1 copy I pulled of her right now though.
From my understanding from the skills she was worse than what i know now, so now i know how to act if im up against her in PvP which is a huge help!
Thank you very much for your testing and explaination!
Thanks for taking the time to put it together!
If they used position numbers in the descriptions it would make a lot more sense.
see, even you have the column and row terms mixed. 3:30
Columns are up and down, think of it like columns in a building. Rows go horizontal, think of rows of corn in a field.
but yes, echocalypse is messed up for terminology. they need a better translation crew that proofreads this stuff before release, especially with the kind of money involved in this game
most other games will choose to use "rows" and "lines" since gamers are used to terms like "back row"
Yes I can't stand the row terminology in this game lol
My team currently consists of: Aiken 3*, Kiki 3*, Gryph 0*, Levia 0*, Chiriha 0* and Nephtys 0*. I just got a Horus, should I put her into my team and if so, who should I replace?
From what I tested, Horus works better in spot 4 if you want to counter Aiken in pvp. Cus of her skill, you still want her in backline because you want enemy to consume rage so she deals more dmg. Honestly positioning gets complicated if you unlock the * part where she does more dmg to debuff units. The first neolith wont activate till after spot 4 goes, so you need her in spot 5, but that means you counter Aiken less. So you forced to run control unit with her. Im running Niz in my horus pvp team so I can keep her on spot 4 to counter Aiken
I agree. Her v arms makes it clear that she should be in position 4, 5 or 6 to stack the crit bonuses from that.
@@XxTexasTimxX oooh didn't know chiraha basic was debuff. That def means I could take out Niz and put Chiraha on spot 3
Yes. It doesnt show up as a token over the enemy, but if you tap on either enemy after she hits, then you will see the defense down listed under debuffs. So Horus will get the extra debuff damage once on the front row enemy, and twice on the back row enemy. Thats because Chiraha basic is a 2 round debuff, and debuffs clear as the opponents act, and not at the full end of the round.@@Creamiest_Mayo
Is a round = a full rotation of all 6x2 characters?@@XxTexasTimxX
Depends a bit on context. The whole round is when all 6 chars on both teams act. But you'll notice that things like debuffs tick down in turns when the unit the debuff is on takes its action in the turn. So for things like debuffs, the round ends when the char its applied to acts, and not at the full end of the round when all 12 chars have gone. Its why burn damage can kill an enemy before it acts, and not after everyone acts.@@Leitari
got her 2 stars since I was saving, absolute beast when she crits. Now I wait for Nue
She is my new fav unit
lol just use "column" when i first read this i think strip the enemy row
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They should really offer a refund. This ability is mistranslated in like 4 different ways. And she is worse in multiple ways because of this. I thought she would gain rage the whole battle. I also thought she would gain rage before her turn. Neither are true, so she's worse than I was expecting. :(