Hey, Brychanus from DGCR here. Love it and your physics discussion sprinkled throughout. My father was an Aerospace Engineer, glad you're contributing your expertise to the DG world!
Can't believe I hadn't seen your channel yet, wow. You have a lot of great videos on there. That's super cool to hear that your dad was an aero engineer! Smart family, with the son becoming a neuroscientist to one-up him haha.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit Thanks man! I didn't end up too far from engineering and in the end it became part of what we do in the lab, so credit to my dad for that part of my brain! My form has changed a lot since I started that channel and looks something like this now. Fairly "old school" but it's working out ok for me, usual plug for SW getting my dumpy body to move like this 🙂 th-cam.com/video/S308bHr3EFs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AceItDiscGolf
I didn't know you were an aerodynamics nerd too! I really liked this video. Would love you to do a "physics of disc flight" video breakdown. Can't wait to see you hit 800.
I've never asked but I was suspicious you may have a similar background to me with your analytical approach to the slinging practice. I may start working on the script for that video today, it will be a lot of work but I want to make sure I do a good job of being comprehensive and understandable at the same time.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit For me, science background, yes, aerodynamics, no. I just meant you are a beast and nerd! a rare combo :) A physics of flight video will be a lot of work, but very useful. I don't think I've ever seen anyone go into a deep dive about how the aerodynamics affect flight during different parts of the flight, and how spin and gyroscopic precession, as well as torque from air-flow can affect turn vs. fade. It's something I haven't quite worked out myself, especially with different disc types. And also it would be nice to comment on what makes something under vs overstable (I understand the x-sec area above and below the max diameter is a major contributor). But man, would that be a useful video (at least to me). Love it man, keep it up!
Thanks for the review! Funny enough i changed my grip slightly to include my middle finger more in the pivot and i am getting about 1000 rpm higher on average. Got the idea after seeing your middle finger all chewed up haha
Nice video, i really enjoy that you showcased the algebra behind the speed number. Hopefully these will handle the torque of the 360. looking forward to see results.
I noticed on a few throws your leading foot hasn't reached the ground when you're like halfway into your pull-through. Getting that front foot down before/when you start your pull-through will unlock the hips quicker and get you some extra distance. Good luck with 800ft!
Does the nose/attitude actually increase during flight, or is it just relative AoA(angle of attack)? I think it can get weird because the nose is not always straight, it's moving with the left/right trajectory changes during flight. I'm guessing you are experiencing more precession because it's harder to grip with the wider rim and harder to spin with its larger moment of inertia. Funny I prefer flat top discs for grip with the thumb, and they come out cleaner. Big dome discs just feel wrong in my hand and tend to get more wobble and nose up.
Since I’m referring to nose angle and AoA synonymously, it generally increases towards the end of flight as the descent rate increases (vertical velocity becomes negative). And I agree, since the velocity vector can sometimes move towards and away from the dipped wing’s direction, that can play a big role, especially on big turnovers (and why I can get away with a nose-up release on distance lines). I got my grip strength back up recently and still noticed a lot of precession, I think the discs’s extreme airfoil shape causes an extreme pitching moment and therefore precession, to the point that 13 speeds feel straight in comparison haha. That’s interesting on the flat top, I think I’m the same with preferring those but on wide rim drivers a flexible plastic and dome helps with max grip strength for some reason.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit Good answer! Figured you weren't making a distinction on attitude vs AoA. The nose up release but nose down later in flight is one of the potential issues I see with tech discs. I should be getting one soon which should be fun.
The bohrium is such a great but odd disc. I'm predominantly forehand, and cannot come anywhere near the speed needed for throwing these backhand. But I have 7 or 8 of these and I have some that are stable to somewhat overstable and some that are roller discs. It's my pr disc for several of my longest forehands but oddly enough isn't my go-to distance driver. It feels so good and I like not having to worry about the sharp rim not chewing up my callus.
Agreed, it has a really strange combination of turn and extreme fade. I'm suspicious the reason for it is the very low drag and thin airfoil profile, it behaves almost like it's 15 or 16 speed with the extreme gyroscopic precession I experienced. I think backhand it needs 70+mph minimum to justify the speed, and even then might fly farther into a headwind since it needs all the dynamic pressure it can get for adequate lift. I felt like a noodle arm throwing them with the tailwind, luckily I think 360s will do it better justice. Could have great utility into headwinds.
@nickkrush.discgolf.fitness when I hit it solid and with a good release it definitely has a noticeable speed increase in terms of exit velocity and just how quick it gets to where it's going. I've had several buddies and bystanders comment on how fast they fly. Definitely would look forward to hearing and seeing more about them.
Hey, Brychanus from DGCR here. Love it and your physics discussion sprinkled throughout. My father was an Aerospace Engineer, glad you're contributing your expertise to the DG world!
Can't believe I hadn't seen your channel yet, wow. You have a lot of great videos on there.
That's super cool to hear that your dad was an aero engineer! Smart family, with the son becoming a neuroscientist to one-up him haha.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit Thanks man!
I didn't end up too far from engineering and in the end it became part of what we do in the lab, so credit to my dad for that part of my brain!
My form has changed a lot since I started that channel and looks something like this now. Fairly "old school" but it's working out ok for me, usual plug for SW getting my dumpy body to move like this 🙂
th-cam.com/video/S308bHr3EFs/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=AceItDiscGolf
Would love to see a video or a short on how you hold your power grips / how you changed it! Great video as always
I will have to for sure! Going to keep trialing my new one and hopefully get some conclusions then can come around to some tutorials
I didn't know you were an aerodynamics nerd too! I really liked this video. Would love you to do a "physics of disc flight" video breakdown. Can't wait to see you hit 800.
I've never asked but I was suspicious you may have a similar background to me with your analytical approach to the slinging practice.
I may start working on the script for that video today, it will be a lot of work but I want to make sure I do a good job of being comprehensive and understandable at the same time.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit For me, science background, yes, aerodynamics, no. I just meant you are a beast and nerd! a rare combo :)
A physics of flight video will be a lot of work, but very useful. I don't think I've ever seen anyone go into a deep dive about how the aerodynamics affect flight during different parts of the flight, and how spin and gyroscopic precession, as well as torque from air-flow can affect turn vs. fade. It's something I haven't quite worked out myself, especially with different disc types. And also it would be nice to comment on what makes something under vs overstable (I understand the x-sec area above and below the max diameter is a major contributor). But man, would that be a useful video (at least to me). Love it man, keep it up!
Thanks for the review! Funny enough i changed my grip slightly to include my middle finger more in the pivot and i am getting about 1000 rpm higher on average. Got the idea after seeing your middle finger all chewed up haha
Oh no way, those are some awesome results Kyle. I'm glad my middle finger debacle has benefited mankind in some way haha!
Nice video, i really enjoy that you showcased the algebra behind the speed number. Hopefully these will handle the torque of the 360. looking forward to see results.
Glad to hear you liked it! 360s with these bad boys will be coming soon with the next vlog episode
Great video, I always find your explanations interesting
Thank you!
The aerodynamics of disc flight video would be great. Please do that
Yes, let's see the before and after grips!
👍 thank you for the feedback!
ayo lets go my man
I noticed on a few throws your leading foot hasn't reached the ground when you're like halfway into your pull-through. Getting that front foot down before/when you start your pull-through will unlock the hips quicker and get you some extra distance. Good luck with 800ft!
Will also put more spin on the disc
everything you just said from 2 mins to 3 mins is something I would never expect to hear from a disc golfer ever haha
😂 love it! Just wait till the full disc physics video where it will get even more ridiculous, haha
It's Nick here and Pete Ulibarri saying things we just accept as truth ;D
Does the nose/attitude actually increase during flight, or is it just relative AoA(angle of attack)? I think it can get weird because the nose is not always straight, it's moving with the left/right trajectory changes during flight.
I'm guessing you are experiencing more precession because it's harder to grip with the wider rim and harder to spin with its larger moment of inertia.
Funny I prefer flat top discs for grip with the thumb, and they come out cleaner. Big dome discs just feel wrong in my hand and tend to get more wobble and nose up.
Since I’m referring to nose angle and AoA synonymously, it generally increases towards the end of flight as the descent rate increases (vertical velocity becomes negative).
And I agree, since the velocity vector can sometimes move towards and away from the dipped wing’s direction, that can play a big role, especially on big turnovers (and why I can get away with a nose-up release on distance lines).
I got my grip strength back up recently and still noticed a lot of precession, I think the discs’s extreme airfoil shape causes an extreme pitching moment and therefore precession, to the point that 13 speeds feel straight in comparison haha.
That’s interesting on the flat top, I think I’m the same with preferring those but on wide rim drivers a flexible plastic and dome helps with max grip strength for some reason.
@@NickKrush.DGandFit Good answer! Figured you weren't making a distinction on attitude vs AoA.
The nose up release but nose down later in flight is one of the potential issues I see with tech discs. I should be getting one soon which should be fun.
Keep doing these! I think being honest about the cons is important. What DONT you like about them.
Noted, and thank you for watching the vid man!!
Throws start at 4:10
The bohrium is such a great but odd disc. I'm predominantly forehand, and cannot come anywhere near the speed needed for throwing these backhand. But I have 7 or 8 of these and I have some that are stable to somewhat overstable and some that are roller discs. It's my pr disc for several of my longest forehands but oddly enough isn't my go-to distance driver. It feels so good and I like not having to worry about the sharp rim not chewing up my callus.
Agreed, it has a really strange combination of turn and extreme fade. I'm suspicious the reason for it is the very low drag and thin airfoil profile, it behaves almost like it's 15 or 16 speed with the extreme gyroscopic precession I experienced. I think backhand it needs 70+mph minimum to justify the speed, and even then might fly farther into a headwind since it needs all the dynamic pressure it can get for adequate lift.
I felt like a noodle arm throwing them with the tailwind, luckily I think 360s will do it better justice. Could have great utility into headwinds.
@nickkrush.discgolf.fitness when I hit it solid and with a good release it definitely has a noticeable speed increase in terms of exit velocity and just how quick it gets to where it's going. I've had several buddies and bystanders comment on how fast they fly. Definitely would look forward to hearing and seeing more about them.
Hey bro, likes the vid. Quick unprompted feedback, intro was pretty long. Just want people to stick around 👍
I appreciate the feedback! I think I'll be able to make the intros more efficient as I gain experience on these types of videos, so stay tuned :)
Think I figured out what is wrong with my backhand..... I been wearing pants this whole time 🤦
😂 luckily it's an easy fix!
I can't not see Forrest Gump in this outfit. Makes for hilarious videos though lmao.
😂 now that you mention it I can’t unsee it either. And all for the better