Nicely done. I got the PVCX from FM as well and I've gotten there tune & a tune from DJ. To me the FM tune is a bit more aggressive with the A/F and also the throttle. I feel as if the DJ map runs a light lean-er. I don't get the same gas mileage with FM map but it runs great and has excellent response.
I noticed the tune I was sent from FM has no top end horsepower. Original stock tune was actually faster (especially higher RPM's) I haven't tried the DJ tunes yet but I am hoping there is one that focuses more on Power.
Nice Video! The PVCX is so much easier to use than any piggyback system available for our Indians. Connect, flash, disconnect and ride! The Version 2.2 firmware that will be released soon for the PVCX will ignore any hidden files that the MacOS puts on the device. So very soon there will be no issues with using the Mac to copy files over to the PVCX.
Yes... 2 different things, really. Cams totally change the timing, and gives you that nice lob lob lob sound. New Cams, of course, also require an ECU flash so they kind of go together (pretty sure the dealer will require the flash to install the cams). I chose to re-tune (after the factory cam tune) using FuelMoto's tunes via the Dynojet. Hope that makes sense. -chad
Hey Chad I love your videos, I have a chieftain dark horse with the same mods. I am getting ready to do the intake and cams, I was wondering what the difference is between this tuner and the tune they will put on it after the cam install at the dealership?
I'm getting that less now that I keep a tender on the battery. In fact, keeping a tender on the battery seems to solve a few issues I've had lately since we started full time RVing and she has to stay outside with a cover. I still have the stock battery though. Might be time to replace it.
Thanks for taking the time. But why would any one want to use a MAC and the 1970's DOS format?? To each their own I guess. You have certainly shown a lot of people, buy a Dobeck EJK. It is sooooo very much simpler.
Well.. it's Linux underneath... If you're running Windows, it's DOS underneath. Every OS has a command line interface that is faster and simpler if you know what you're doing. The trouble with the Dobek, IMO is it has to run piggy-bak and sort of trick the ECU... I'd rather just program the ECU. And if one wants to delve into the bones of it and really tweak the settings, a programmer is the only way to go... And there's nothing to install... But to each his own.
Chad Florian . I’m a rider, not a software engineer. Thank God I have a Dobeck EJK. I’ve always had to re-jet my dirt bikes richer. After getting my Indian Springfield I did the same thing, only electronically. It runs so much better now. I wish I was computer savvy, like my (computer systems engineer) son. But I bet he wishes he had grease monkey skills like me. Ride on!
I know dynojet offers a map for my freedom exhaust and lloyd air kit just diwoad that tune and I'm good. Also I do not have the ride command on my bike so how do I keep it powered on without it shutting off on me
I had my dealer put the exact same pipes on my Roadmaster as well as cams and air cleaner. It makes all kinds of noise now almost like it is low on oil with chirping sound. Did yours do this and would this PVCX fix it do you think?
No... Mine sounds great. As noisy as any air cooled 1811cc v-twin I suppose. Sounds like you have what is commonly called a "clacker" on the Indian forums. Check out: www.indianmotorcycles.net/search/171175961/?q=clacking&o=relevance I'd be curious to heat what it sounds like if you can post a video?
Mine ran like a sewing machine until they put the cams in her. Then the noise of chirping and clacking. I was told it's normal, but when it was such a big change and constant at certain steady RPM's no matter what gear I called Polaris. They called the dealer and poof a new flash update that did tone it down a bit. I did it at 451 miles and I only have just under 900 now. But I believe the PVCX ECU is the ticket. Thank you for all you share. I LOVE my Roadmaster ... I just want my engine back quiet and smooth again. I have only MACs so your video is perfect for me. Can't begin to thank you enough. I live in Florida as well ... Indian Harbour Beach.
I think that *used* to be how they did it a few firmware revs ago... the way it's set up now, they have to get the TuneCMP number from your bike before they can send you a tune. But FuelMoto is super fast at turnaround and if they're backed up for some reason, you can go on dynojet's site and use theirs. I like to load both and compare, but I've always chosen FuelMoto's tunes.
Nicely done. I got the PVCX from FM as well and I've gotten there tune & a tune from DJ. To me the FM tune is a bit more aggressive with the A/F and also the throttle. I feel as if the DJ map runs a light lean-er. I don't get the same gas mileage with FM map but it runs great and has excellent response.
Agreed.. I've compared the two (DJ vs FM) also and like the FM maps much better!
I noticed the tune I was sent from FM has no top end horsepower. Original stock tune was actually faster (especially higher RPM's) I haven't tried the DJ tunes yet but I am hoping there is one that focuses more on Power.
Nice Video! The PVCX is so much easier to use than any piggyback system available for our Indians. Connect, flash, disconnect and ride!
The Version 2.2 firmware that will be released soon for the PVCX will ignore any hidden files that the MacOS puts on the device. So very soon there will be no issues with using the Mac to copy files over to the PVCX.
That's good to hear.
@@ChadsStuff just wondering since you install the pvcx have you had any issues and how's the bike running.
Been running the same tune on it since I made this video and it's been great! -chad
@@ChangingLanes I'm going to put on my cams next week. Was it a noticeable difference versus the flash card from Indian.
Yes... 2 different things, really. Cams totally change the timing, and gives you that nice lob lob lob sound. New Cams, of course, also require an ECU flash so they kind of go together (pretty sure the dealer will require the flash to install the cams). I chose to re-tune (after the factory cam tune) using FuelMoto's tunes via the Dynojet. Hope that makes sense. -chad
crazy question. can u use the PVCX to pull ur master pin? if not is there anyother way besides going to the dealer to pull my master pin??
I have no idea... I bet it's in the data there somewhere. I'd ask around here: www.indianmotorcycles.net/
Hey Chad I love your videos, I have a chieftain dark horse with the same mods. I am getting ready to do the intake and cams, I was wondering what the difference is between this tuner and the tune they will put on it after the cam install at the dealership?
The big difference is the dealer has to put an EPA compliant tune on it which runs leaner and hotter. The FuelMoto tunes are much better IMO. -chad
Thank you I didn’t even think about that.
Mine never did go to that sleep mode or power off by itself. It did idle higher and seem to run better but maybe that was in my head.
Why did she stop at the first try? My Indian does exactly THE SAME sometimes... And I still dunno why. 21:58
I'm getting that less now that I keep a tender on the battery. In fact, keeping a tender on the battery seems to solve a few issues I've had lately since we started full time RVing and she has to stay outside with a cover. I still have the stock battery though. Might be time to replace it.
Does the dynojet pvcx come with maps installed ready to flash? Thank you for your video.
Last I checked if you bought it from FuelMoto, they will pre-load the maps for your bike.
@@ChadsStuff thank you for your reply
Thanks for taking the time. But why would any one want to use a MAC and the 1970's DOS format?? To each their own I guess. You have certainly shown a lot of people, buy a Dobeck EJK. It is sooooo very much simpler.
Well.. it's Linux underneath... If you're running Windows, it's DOS underneath. Every OS has a command line interface that is faster and simpler if you know what you're doing. The trouble with the Dobek, IMO is it has to run piggy-bak and sort of trick the ECU... I'd rather just program the ECU. And if one wants to delve into the bones of it and really tweak the settings, a programmer is the only way to go... And there's nothing to install... But to each his own.
Chad Florian . I’m a rider, not a software engineer. Thank God I have a Dobeck EJK. I’ve always had to re-jet my dirt bikes richer. After getting my Indian Springfield I did the same thing, only electronically. It runs so much better now. I wish I was computer savvy, like my (computer systems engineer) son. But I bet he wishes he had grease monkey skills like me. Ride on!
Ride safe, Tami! Hope you check out our full time RV channel (the one I'm commenting with).. 😊 ~chad
Piggy back systems for these bikes are shit, pure and simple.
I know dynojet offers a map for my freedom exhaust and lloyd air kit just diwoad that tune and I'm good. Also I do not have the ride command on my bike so how do I keep it powered on without it shutting off on me
Not sure about that. Guessing it wont shut off while being flashed, but you might want to call dynojet (or FuelMoto if you bought from them).
Did you have yours lowered? What's your thoughts
I had my dealer put the exact same pipes on my Roadmaster as well as cams and air cleaner. It makes all kinds of noise now almost like it is low on oil with chirping sound. Did yours do this and would this PVCX fix it do you think?
No... Mine sounds great. As noisy as any air cooled 1811cc v-twin I suppose. Sounds like you have what is commonly called a "clacker" on the Indian forums. Check out: www.indianmotorcycles.net/search/171175961/?q=clacking&o=relevance I'd be curious to heat what it sounds like if you can post a video?
Mine ran like a sewing machine until they put the cams in her. Then the noise of chirping and clacking. I was told it's normal, but when it was such a big change and constant at certain steady RPM's no matter what gear I called Polaris. They called the dealer and poof a new flash update that did tone it down a bit. I did it at 451 miles and I only have just under 900 now. But I believe the PVCX ECU is the ticket. Thank you for all you share. I LOVE my Roadmaster ... I just want my engine back quiet and smooth again. I have only MACs so your video is perfect for me. Can't begin to thank you enough. I live in Florida as well ... Indian Harbour Beach.
You can't hear it at idle.
Yea... I do have the PVCX (FuelMoto tune), and am running amsol synthetic. Maybe try those things... Good Luck!
Dennis Stricklin I've heard of indian tearing into s new motor for that reason,if it continues keep bitching
Won't they just send you the pvcx with your tune already on it and you just plug it in and not have to use your computer?
I think that *used* to be how they did it a few firmware revs ago... the way it's set up now, they have to get the TuneCMP number from your bike before they can send you a tune. But FuelMoto is super fast at turnaround and if they're backed up for some reason, you can go on dynojet's site and use theirs. I like to load both and compare, but I've always chosen FuelMoto's tunes.
Fuel moto if you purchase it from them
I would probably get confused using the computer.
I see you have your sandals
Now rip out your converter and let the exhaust breathe like it needs to.