Michigan State as a program is underrated. If they can get another good coach, all the other pieces ($$$) are there to build a solid program. Had Mel Tucker not become El Tugger, they’d have passed Penn State and competing with OSU and Michigan. Smith needs 4-5 years to marinate the culture. Them and Nebraska will be on the come up.
Go Green! The guy left his Alma Mater for MSU, he realized the possibility is greater at that "State" school over the other "State" school. There is no easy schedule in the Big 10, there is only luck on who gets the home field that year and who is or gets injured and the weather. BigTen should have its own tournament after the end of the season, and forget about tryingto get teams into the "playoffs". The real competition is relative in the Big 10 and stays inside the Conference only.
Last year was a total bust. The team was demoralized, first from a poorer than expected showing in 2022, then swings and misses at the high-profile recruits in the 2023 class, then the departure of Keon Coleman and Peyton Thorne. You know Tucker was distracted, fully aware he was under investigation before anyone else knew, but then the news broke and it became evident in September that Tucker was done. From there, the coaching staff knew they were lame ducks, and likely went through the motions, not that it was the greatest staff to begin with, and player morale had tanked. But the talent cupboard wasn’t bare, it was just demoralized and poorly coached. You now bring in what everyone around the country is acknowledging as one of the top 10 coaches in the country, WITH (nearly) his entire staff, and filling the few gaps with widely acknowledged top-notch guys (most importantly Joe Rossi). It’s not like Smith is assembling a staff that has never worked together. Everyone is on the same page, the system is tried, true, and consistent, and Smith brings with him a high 4-star QB who has already been in the system for a year, and has had success on the field during meaningful downs in meaningful games, not just mop-up time. You bring an experienced and high-quality center to anchor the O-line, who has started many games in the system, and a highly touted TE target who also knows, has started, and has thrived in the system. Combine that with plenty of young but unproven talent at WR, an RB room that looks very good, an experienced senior backup QB who has set records at his former FCS school, and young O-line talent which is unproven but at least average (for the BigTen) in potential, plus a highly rated O-line transfer player. This offense could be good. You’ve got arguably the best kicker and punter combo in the BigTen. On defense, you lost two good D-Tackles and a starting safety, but you picked up quality players in those positions as well. Maybe the ceiling for the D-line isn’t as high as it was, but the LB room looks solid, and the secondary overall is still probably the best it has been in several years. Also, there are several quality upper-classmen who came into the program as 4-star or high 3-star guys, and were injured for most or all of last year, but are returning for their 4th, 5th and even 6th seasons. They likely will add quality depth, especially on the lines, if they can stay healthy. The ceiling for this team is probably 9-3. Now, it’s unlikely they will reach 9 wins, but it’s possible if things go really well. That said, the floor is very low. A few key injuries on the lines, and a few new/young players that just don’t pan out like expected, and 3-9 or 2-10 are not out of the question. Vegas has the o/u at 4.5 wins. Everyone inside the program will be disappointed if they don’t win at least 6 and go to a bowl. They should beat FAU and Prairie View (but I don’t believe FAU is a gimme). I would think they would be favored over Purdue. The peer group includes Boston College, Maryland, and Illinois. Rutgers might be slightly better, Indiana might be slightly worse, but all of those are winnable games. Can you guarantee Iowa is going to have a good offense? How many times has a half-way decent MSU beaten Michigan as double-digit underdog? That rivalry is closer to a 50-50 prospect most years. Could Jonathan Smith channel some Oregon State magic against an Oregon team who will undoubtedly be looking ahead to the following week’s clash with Ohio State? MSU will be very interesting to watch this year.
I don’t know, you don’t know, the talking heads know squat. We hope so, but we don’t know. Time will tell. We don’t know but we’re allowed to guess. My guess: probably not, but nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong
Michigan State is at least 5 years from a .500 team. Last year’s conference finish of 2-7 is likely what we’re looking at this year. Recruiting is terrible and we cannot seem to figure out NIL or how to use the portal.
Jonathan Smith is a very good coach. He can get the most out of his players. To be a contender they will need good recruiting.
Michigan State as a program is underrated. If they can get another good coach, all the other pieces ($$$) are there to build a solid program. Had Mel Tucker not become El Tugger, they’d have passed Penn State and competing with OSU and Michigan. Smith needs 4-5 years to marinate the culture. Them and Nebraska will be on the come up.
Do you really think Tuck would have had a good career at MSU had he not been an idiot?
Mel Tucker was rapidly declining as a coach before the phone thing happened and I think they wanted to let him go either way
smith built Oregon State he can definitely build MSU. My hope is that when he starts winning 8-10 games he’ll start to recruit the 4-5 stars.
Let's Go Coach Smith!
Go Green! The guy left his Alma Mater for MSU, he realized the possibility is greater at that "State" school over the other "State" school. There is no easy schedule in the Big 10, there is only luck on who gets the home field that year and who is or gets injured and the weather. BigTen should have its own tournament after the end of the season, and forget about tryingto get teams into the "playoffs". The real competition is relative in the Big 10 and stays inside the Conference only.
I dont think Oregon is going to be this juggernaut in the BigTen.
I agree I think they will struggle for a bit.Everyone thought Nebraska would dominate when they joined that didnt work out well.
@@timd4789 That's exactly the team I thought about when I posted that 😄
Literally, anytime oregon has to play anyone slightly better then them they start to fold like paper
Last year was a total bust. The team was demoralized, first from a poorer than expected showing in 2022, then swings and misses at the high-profile recruits in the 2023 class, then the departure of Keon Coleman and Peyton Thorne. You know Tucker was distracted, fully aware he was under investigation before anyone else knew, but then the news broke and it became evident in September that Tucker was done. From there, the coaching staff knew they were lame ducks, and likely went through the motions, not that it was the greatest staff to begin with, and player morale had tanked. But the talent cupboard wasn’t bare, it was just demoralized and poorly coached. You now bring in what everyone around the country is acknowledging as one of the top 10 coaches in the country, WITH (nearly) his entire staff, and filling the few gaps with widely acknowledged top-notch guys (most importantly Joe Rossi). It’s not like Smith is assembling a staff that has never worked together. Everyone is on the same page, the system is tried, true, and consistent, and Smith brings with him a high 4-star QB who has already been in the system for a year, and has had success on the field during meaningful downs in meaningful games, not just mop-up time. You bring an experienced and high-quality center to anchor the O-line, who has started many games in the system, and a highly touted TE target who also knows, has started, and has thrived in the system. Combine that with plenty of young but unproven talent at WR, an RB room that looks very good, an experienced senior backup QB who has set records at his former FCS school, and young O-line talent which is unproven but at least average (for the BigTen) in potential, plus a highly rated O-line transfer player. This offense could be good.
You’ve got arguably the best kicker and punter combo in the BigTen.
On defense, you lost two good D-Tackles and a starting safety, but you picked up quality players in those positions as well. Maybe the ceiling for the D-line isn’t as high as it was, but the LB room looks solid, and the secondary overall is still probably the best it has been in several years.
Also, there are several quality upper-classmen who came into the program as 4-star or high 3-star guys, and were injured for most or all of last year, but are returning for their 4th, 5th and even 6th seasons. They likely will add quality depth, especially on the lines, if they can stay healthy.
The ceiling for this team is probably 9-3. Now, it’s unlikely they will reach 9 wins, but it’s possible if things go really well. That said, the floor is very low. A few key injuries on the lines, and a few new/young players that just don’t pan out like expected, and 3-9 or 2-10 are not out of the question. Vegas has the o/u at 4.5 wins. Everyone inside the program will be disappointed if they don’t win at least 6 and go to a bowl.
They should beat FAU and Prairie View (but I don’t believe FAU is a gimme). I would think they would be favored over Purdue. The peer group includes Boston College, Maryland, and Illinois. Rutgers might be slightly better, Indiana might be slightly worse, but all of those are winnable games. Can you guarantee Iowa is going to have a good offense? How many times has a half-way decent MSU beaten Michigan as double-digit underdog? That rivalry is closer to a 50-50 prospect most years. Could Jonathan Smith channel some Oregon State magic against an Oregon team who will undoubtedly be looking ahead to the following week’s clash with Ohio State?
MSU will be very interesting to watch this year.
MSU will suprise everyone
Yes
Sparty guaranteed to win the natty! Best team in college football by far!!!
😂😂😂
I don’t know, you don’t know, the talking heads know squat. We hope so, but we don’t know. Time will tell. We don’t know but we’re allowed to guess. My guess: probably not, but nothing would please me more than to be proven wrong
Underrated: the loser’s favorite word 😂😂😂😂
Short answer. Hell naw😂😂
Career losing record. No is the answer.
No
Michigan State is at least 5 years from a .500 team. Last year’s conference finish of 2-7 is likely what we’re looking at this year. Recruiting is terrible and we cannot seem to figure out NIL or how to use the portal.
Cap
Yes
No