Dept. of Indoctrination. They teach kids what to think, not HOW to think, or different approaches to actually _understand_ the problem. America is fucked.
I don't know about abolishing the department of education, but I do know it needs to be totally reworked. Maybe delegated to the state level. I remember in the late 60s, in my kin's home towns where my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins grew up, a number of my relatives were on the school board. I remember them discussing the vote to accept or not accept government funding, because accepting government funding gave the feds the right to dictate what and how you taught. The government decided your school books and many regulations. It was a hot argument, but I know at some time they finally accepted government funding. My parnts didn't live in the area (Willamette Valley, OR) when it changed so I don't know the background - maybe they were finally forced to. Kind of sad.
Common core isn’t about a better way of teaching children, it’s about dumbing down the smart kids so the stupid kids don’t feel inferior. It’s pathetic.
Common Core is meant to slow the fast kids down. It is all about Equity. No one is permitted to excel. Everyone gets a trophy. THANK GOD I was out of school before Common Core was a thing.
My gifted kid got the answers right but the problems wrong for not showing all the common core work. He didn’t understand the point. He can do complex math in his head and get it right so being forced to do elementary math like this drove him crazy. His teacher said showing the work is more important. That if he shows his work and does it the common core way, he can get the points even if the answer is wrong.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This stuff is all about teaching them a sense of numbers. Eventually it leads to them doing the calculations in their heads. They also will teach the tried and true method that the lady demonstrated in the beginning. In second grade my kid was asking how old everyone in the family was and calculating the year they were born….in his head.
@@AlphanumericCharacters In second grade my teachers accused me of having my parents do my maths homework. So, the administration gave me a 100 question pop test, put me in a room by myself and had me take it in an hour. I finished in half the time and the result was that they made me skip 3rd grade, and afterward wanted me to skip 5th as well. Thing is, some people already have an innate sense of numbers, why slow them down?
My grandson moved to Seattle and did standard stacked addition. The teacher tried to pull this garbage, his parents told her that he will continue to do math the NORMAL way.
I am an engineer with a masters degree and couldn’t figure out what my 5th graders teacher wanted from them on their math homework. The way they do it is so stupid. I now just teach both my kids math and the other basics outside of school. What they get at school is a joke.
Me too... Math is about finding shortcuts to get the answers quickly, not to make it take longer. In college they showed us how to make ballpark estimates quickly to see if the design seemed reasonable and safe. (i.e. Slide Rule). Of course now you can just ask ChatGPT for the answer, not sure I'd trust that though. Of course back when I was that kids age, I'd use my fingers to count out the answer, similar to an abacus. 😎
But they then will get failed grades at school because "they don't do it the teacher's way".My youngest, luckily BEFORE this common crap math, had problems enough. He could look at a math assignment and immediately come up with the result, but his teachers made him waste his time and talent describing things the teacher's way coming to the same answer. 😡
Physicist here and it looked to me like my daughter's middle school math was going into the weeds than teaching math or accomplishing solving the math question. Some kind of number matrix and magic incantations.
I'm engineer and my husband is an accountat. I told the teacher we both do math all day for a living, if neither of us can figure out how to do the math problems there is a big problem.
Yup that’s the unfortunate part of public education system. They have stopped letting the smart kids get ahead and have since forced them to learn at the rate of the slowest kid in class.
Exactly! Why would aerospace companies need actual intelligence when they can have participation trophy winners who check boxes and strand astronauts on space stations instead?
This happened with me and my daughter. She brought home some math problems and didn't understand how to do it. So I looked at them and was confused on how they wanted her to do it. I taught her how I was taught and she understood. She did all the problems and had the right answers. Brought the paper back a couple days later and got a bad grade because she didn't do them the way they wanted her to.
Yep. My son’s teacher said if he gets the problem right but doesn’t do it the common core way, he doesn’t get the points. But, if he does it the common core way and arrives at the incorrect answer, he’ll still get full points. Makes me scared to go over bridges this generation builds.
It is supposedly better for dumb kidd who cannot do it in their heads so they can invision the problem, I think. But there is no reason to force everyone to do it
@@shadowmage661 I was the kid who's head would spit out the answer. The teacher would ask to see my work and my response was "what work?" This would drive me insane.
Genius is taking something complex and reducing it to its simplest form. Idiocy is to take something from its simplest form and complicate it. Common core "math" is idiocy.
This is teaching the method, NOT how to calculate small numbers. It's like saying that teaching a kid 1+1=2 is stupid because how will they ever work with numbers bigger than ten?
@@the_wanderful_life no, it's not a teaching method. It is a poor teaching method. Massive distinction. All this does is confuse kids. Take the actual child in the video thinking that the proper way to do it, is the wrong "teaching method" they were taught. The method does not work and confuses the child.
@the_wanderful_life I think that allot of adults were exposed to mathmatical abstractions that they all they know is symbolic manipulation. Like people use calculations they don't do math.
This is infuriating , they changed math around 1968. I was in junior high school. I was working on algebra . My brotherlaw had an associate degree in chemistry. I would do math the way he was taught and my father. The teacher would mark it wrong. Right answer, wanted new math formula . When they change math, the state will print new math text books. Big expence , harms kids!!!
A child telling the parent, "Let me show you how it's actually done" is the spirit of modern education. It's not about teaching the child what is right. It is about convincing the child that the parent is wrong.
This is what’s been happening for years. My kids went through it and it’s not just math, it’s everything. Complete madness with no curriculum, no evaluating or testing and definitely not failing. Everyone passes no matter what. There are probably two generations of grown children now unable to think.
That's how you make someone a lifetime dependent and an utterly obedient NPC. This isn't how you make citizens. This is how you make s****s. I can't even spell the word or YT removes the comment. Thats how far corrupted things have become.
They don't really read books and they print instead of write. Printing is for babies. Handwriting is an art that comes from the heart. It's art. It's beauty. ..they don't want beauty they want CHAOS. Don't let the left win, ever.
We homeschooled our 6 kids with a weekly support group, and this is what I observed: 1) they did creative projects during non book learning time, 2) were friendly to people of all ages including the elderly (much less peer dependency, 3) had no lack of social interaction and not with bad influencers.
I teach high school. It is MINDBLOWING how many freshmen come in who have never taken a geography course of any kind, cannot read script, don’t know the times tables, do not know the parts of speech, and do not know Roman numerals. I don’t know what the hell they’re doing in grade school.
Doing common core math, with my child, during COVID-19 lockdowns, over the internet, with internet latency, and bad cameras was horrific - for all of us.
This is exactly what happened when my daughter was learning this and when my daughter asked for help I helped her and the teacher marked it wrong because that’s not common core math!! I got mad and told her to tell her teacher to come and help with your homework because that is BS they made it harder and longer to find the damn answer!
My kids did that crap in elementary school and they had to break out of that crap for middle school. They really need to get rid of the teachers union.
All the kid did was draw out his equations. The mom is a few steps head of him. He will eventually get to doing g math the way the mom does. But the the kid doesn’t understand why we roll over we do math like this.
the kid's way is fine if you can count, but haven't memorized addition of the 10 numerals. If you know 6+7 = 13, Mom's way is best. This requires rote memorization, which is work, which is frowned upon.
The difference is that when he moves on to using the abridged method, he’ll understand what he’s doing - IF it was taught properly; and that’s a really fuck’n big if!
@@donaldobrien9171 All of the people supporting common core math haven't actually looked at just how much student results have dropped on average. It's a good way to teach for the kids who cannot keep up otherwise, but it drags down those who can learn faster methods a lot.
Yup! I remember my DD in Grade 3 doing this for long division. She was struggling so much with it. When she tried showing me i had to stop her. I then went and showed her the easy way and she picked it up after two questions then flew through her homework. We now homeschool.
This explains how an 18-year-old I personally know could not add or subtract 2 two digit numbers in their head. They said they had to use a calculator. 🤯☮️🇺🇸
You have to teach them the shortcuts too, and I think that’s the problem here. It seems like a decent way to explain to a certain type of kid how the underlying math works, but if you never practice the shortcuts or drill simple math, they’re gonna be slow.
Back in the day, we had calculators, but I never used it or very rarely. By the time someone could punch in the numbers, I was already done answering. All children should be well versed manually!!! Well, before using a calculator...
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example.
They will gaslight you into thinking this way is SO MUCH BETTER. Don't allow them to do that. You just need to time someone doing one method and someone doing this crap to know what's the truth.
A few reasons: Parents can't help, so children learn they must only trust The State. It isn't intuitive, so it teaches children to only listen to The State, not themselves. It intellectually fatigues them so they hate learning. All they have energy left for is video games and entertainment.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you aren't bright enough to help your kids.
@@the_wanderful_life Most of us learn to count by fingers as toddlers. There's no need to force counting dots upon school-children. Sorry if that's the "brightest" way you know.
I truly believe that changes like these are meant to foster a sense of frustration between parent and child. Schools want kids believing that their parents are ill-equipped to help them through anything they might be struggling with, even homework. They want kids to believe that their parents don’t know anything or are too “old fashioned” so they put their trust in the teachers at school rather than in mom and dad. It’s just a ploy to slowly create a disconnect between kids and their parents in an attempt to ultimately dissolve the family unit. It’s time for people to wake up, start homeschooling their kids, and carefully curating who their children associate with.
I was a Math major, and mI was talking to a math teacher from the local high school about this crap they are teaching our kids. She had to get a book on common core math to help her son with his homework and I couldn't understand what they were teaching my grandson. It's just crazy.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
You say this on every post. In kindergarten we spent our first lesson with Dice to "visualize" it. Then we moved on. We went a week or so with enough "workspace" next to the problems if anyone needed it. Then, if someone still needed workspace it was with scratch/scrap paper, but those who didn't need it moved on. The reason why no one has cured cancer by now is the intentional dumbing and holding the intelligent back to spare the feelings of the slow. At least back then they knew the world didn't revolve around them. People were motivated to learn by being rewarded for being first. And it encouraged those who weren't to try harder. Bush's push for vegetables first, intelligence last, approach did exactly to this country that i knew was going to happen, fk this country up. Multiplication is basically shorthand addition. And exponents is shorthand multiplication. Once someone knows the basics they don't need to do long form. It's a TEACHING TOOL, not to be used once you've passed the lesson.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to they’re sitting there for 8 fkn hours or whatever it is per day anyway. Seeing alternative ways to solve problems is beneficial for everyone. Besides, they’ll all be working for the homeschooled kids regardless.
I tutor math in college and I’m telling you it is worse than you think. I get people in college that cannot do basic arithmetic. Quite a few of them. They are even often on scholarship. You can thank the “no child left behind” act, Covid policy and this crap for it.
My stepson was learning algebra several years ago. I taught him how to do it to get the correct answer. The following day, he brought me home this math assignment and the teacher marked him “wrong” although the answer was correct! This pissed me off highly! When confronting the teacher, she advised me that I didn’t use the “common core” type of working the problem!!! I advised this teacher that my son would ONLY learn the correct way of doing math and he’d never better be marked wrong again for using said correct math! This crap is absolutely corrosive to our children’s brains!!! 🤬🤬🤬
This math was designed to make math make sense to kids that aren't so good at math. It's supposed to help them visualize the WHY behind all the symbols. Unfortunately, like all things run by govt, the process becomes more important than the purpose and you become a slave to the process.
Am I missing something... Did the kid just change the problem from 47 + 16 to 50 + 13 and just add them the old fashioned way? Just making it redundant.
If someone asked you do 213 * 87 in your head you'd probably go something like " 200*80 is 16 000, 200 * 7 is 1 400 so that's 17 400, 13*80 is 1040 and 13 * 7 is 91 so that's 1131, 17 400 + 1131 = 18531, 213x87 = 18 531". That's exactly CC math. Of course you might use different values (like doing 200*90 + 13*90 - 213*3) but that's exactly the same thing. CC math is just about subdividing a problem into problems that are easier to manage for your human brain. You've been doing CC math most of your life without realising it. There's nothing weird or absurd about it, unless you're willing to consider yourself weird and absurd.
I'm five years younger and I remember "new math" being introduced time and time again, every few years or so. Each "new" was different to the old "new". Don't get me going on about new spelling either. Literally, there were a few phases in UK where they tried to get everyone to learn to spell phonetically. This broke down as it wouldn't accommodate different regional accents: some people learned "was" as "woz" and some as "wuz".
I'm 66 and can confirm that "new math" keeps getting reinvented. Did your version include using a ruler? I have vague memories of using a ruler as a counting tool, but I can't remember the exact process...thankfully.
@@quantisedspace7047 You can learn to read phonetically, more or less, but spelling has to be taught one word at a time---at least until one is reading a LOT!
Dude, you’re comparing a kindergartener demonstrating conceptual understanding of addition with an adult who has already learned the concepts and mastered the shortcuts. The shortcuts and algorithms will come and be worked on down the road, but fit now this kid is doing awesome and can actually explain conceptually what’s going on. Furthermore, how many people have you heard say, “Oh I’m just not a math person.” Part of that is not having the conceptual understanding that this kid demonstrates.
Tell that to the performance scores of all the "common core" kiddos coming out of the modern education system. In the end, he ended up with 50 + 13 anyway - meaning he STILL had to do the "carry the one" method, just with EXTRA steps. The EXACT same concept of "how many tens? How many ones? Tens go with other tens" IS what you are teaching when you teach "carrying the one" *The ten is what you're carrying.* Yes, understanding WHY the numbers are what they are is foundational - that does not mean training a kid to draw an entire freaking grid, dot and dash out the multiples of 10, then add them up manually, THEN carry the 1s is a good way to train them to do it. What do you do when you get to 789 + 566? 178,009,677 + 5,238? Or even 67 - 29, since I cant imagine manually adding up the dots solves that? Heck, I dont even wanna KNOW what they plan to do when it's time to learn multiplication. Theres a reason you teach a child the "right" way to hold a pencil from the instant you begin teaching them how to write, and dont just shrug it off as "that's how they want to do it, and theyre brand new to this anyway, no big deal." Those rote memory skills are MUCH harder to break down and replace than they are to introduce from the get-go.
Reminds me of the joke about a Texas rancher and a government agriculture department bureaucrat on an airliner. Texas rancher says to ag guy: "We are flying over my ranch now. If you can tell me how many cattle are on my ranch I will give you $500." Bureaucrat turns to window and his finger starts flying as he's counting. "You have 2,184 cattle on your ranch." "Here's your $500! How did you do that?" "Easy! I counted all the legs and divided the total by four."
You learn how to do the problems on easier problems (that might be done in your head) so you understand when the math becomes more complicated why it works that way. When a kid gets used to doing all the math in their head and not showing work, it can be very hard to figure out why they are getting the wrong answer.
For an 8 year old, yes. Carrying/borrowing with 2 digit numbers is generally taught in first/second grade. An 8-9 year old would be just starting to practice these methods. 50+13 is definitely easier to see than 47+16. Even math majors will use similar methods to simplify arithmetic, no need to be unnecessarily inefficient. For example, I wouldn't think of 8/3 as just a single fraction, I would mod it to 2 + 2/3, a lot easier to see what the final result would be. I sucked at math all the way through elementary and middle school, only starting to figure it out when I tried to understand it around 10th grade, I was taught the old math style. If "new math" which is a style of mathematics that has been around since at least the 50's and was developed by mathematicians during the 20th century, helps kids better visualize math while they are learning it, and then teach them how to do regular arithmetic later, I don't see a problem with that.
Yeah, duh. Simply incrementing 5 by 1 to get 60, and then changing the 0 to a 3 is easier. But it's done in extra steps that are just tedious and slow people down.
The kid did not do that. He added the 10 to 50 to make 60 and then added the 3. It's the same thing operationally, only the ten from 13 is being "carried" at the end instead of in the middle. The only thing dumb is the counting, but this is a pretty young kid. It probably helps them keep track better. Wrote memorization seems simple when you already know it, but in primary school in the 80s we spent at least 3 years learning basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division with wrote memorization. I wouldn't call that efficient.
"You can't take 3 from 2. 2 is less than 3, so you look at the 4 in the 10s place. Now, that's really 4 10s, so you make it 3 10s. Regroup, and you change the 10 to 10 1s.... Hooray for New Math, Nu-u-u Math...." - Tom Lehrer
My grandson was taught this way. He's in the seventh grade now. I realized he was being taught this way at least 3 years ago. I did exactly what this Mom did. I was blown away by this insanity. Pisses me off BIGLY.
remember parents, school is not there to make your kids smarter, once they learn to read, write and count, its basically daycare till the factory doors close.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life You clearly didn't learn it well enough, or you'd realize it's the exact same thing as what the mother did, just with overly complicated setup and steps.
@@the_wanderful_life Pretty sure large swaths of millennials, Gen X, Boomers, AND the silent generation think this is approach is terrible, and I dont mean some dude who made a political comment with no background. Im talking anyone who uses math in their professions. From construction workers & architects who do napkin math all the time. Engineers who work out physics problems regularly, Accountants that doe arithmetic all day. If so many people from so many different backgrounds that have to functionally utilize mathematics in their daily life are all asking WTF is being achieved measurably by doing it like this, that should give you at least some pause.
@@sethwilliams4015 I am one of those people you’re describing (ME with 20 years in industrial and aerospace design and cfd analysis), and I learned this underlying concept 40 years ago…. It’s just a practical example for small children to grasp the CONCEPT; not a hard and fast rule that they will perform all mathematics in that fashion from today onwards…… Every day I used the underlying concept that this teaching exercise explains. This is just outrage porn for outrage addicts.
The only good thing I could see about that new math is that the parents to run out for a cigarette or a quick errand and still come back and the child will just be finishing up
I was born in 1967 so in school early 70s. I was a product of "new" math back then. It totally messed me up for life. Everything old becomes new again!
This is teaching the method, NOT how to calculate small numbers. It's like saying that teaching a kid 1+1=2 is stupid because how will they ever work with numbers bigger than ten?
@@the_wanderful_life nowadays its more like "if x=2y+3" how much climate change does it cause and 10 extra points if you are transgender. on serious note i know a 14 year old who cant do simple mental arithmetic and a 30 year old work colleague that brings out a calculator/cellphone to do the most basic maths. now i admit i could read/write and do simple maths when entering school at 5, some kids today can do the same but classrooms try to make everyone equal and "dumb down some" and upscale the rest
@@jag92949 you’re wrong. It’s designed for calculating large numbers in your head, easily. Nobody would ever actually use it for small numbers (like in the video), but working with small numbers like this is how a small child can learn the underlying concept.
@@the_wanderful_life Here’s my strategy for solving 47 + 16 without a pencil. You add 20 to 47 making 67 then subtract 4 from it (since 16 = 20 - 4). The answer is 63. That’s better than stupid tally marks or the traditional method. I know woke educators can’t do math and teach it in the most cumbersome and tedious way possible, but this is painful.
Our kids were homeschooled all the way through. One aced calculus while dual enrolled at the state university as a high school senior, and the other aced all math classes while at university. No "new math" to gum up the works and slow them down. So glad we got them out young for many reasons. Dad's an engineer, so the math was old school, and he would not let them advance until they understood the concepts and laws and developed speed. Mental math was required of them as well as real world application. They are thriving as independent adults. Get your kids out.
I was born in Taiwan and moved to the US when I was 9. I literally didn’t learn anything new in math classes for 2 years. Even when there was new material, I would do my homework during class and turn it in at end of class and I still get A’s in math. And this was decades ago.
I refused to teach common core mathematics to my children. How the hell was I supposed to help them understand this crap? And these standardized tests? They get these kids so stressed out about these tests. I told my girls to treat them like detention. You just have to sit through it. You don't have to worry about what happens after you've already sat through the punishment.
And the only reason all that pressure is applied is because average scores affect FUNDING. It's about having school systems not appear to be the failures they are.
You're basically teaching your children to not apply themselves at a time when it matters. Whether they go into any profession or become entrepreneurs, connecting testing to detention is training their brain to not push themselves in that field. If effort isn't emphasized during testing, when else is it being emphasized? Take even this TH-cam video as an example. This video is almost like a test for that TH-cam creator, and if they drop the ball on maximizing all aspects of effort on that video, the results/views fall flat. I wonder what the medical profession, or the law profession, or even any other aspect of our world would be like if every parent told their children to treat testing like it is detention. "Don't worry about what happens after." Let's just chill.
The thing older people don't understand is that they weren't taught math in school. They were taught calculating. That method comes from back when calculator was an occupation not an app installed on everyone's phone.
I once spent 45 minutes explaining to my crying 4th grader why - while he got the right answer and could do so consistently - he was marked wrong because he didn’t do it the way he was told. Here’s the thing, there’s more than one way to learn. I get that Common Core ostensibly helps kids understand the “concept” of what one, seven, ten, thirty-four, etc actually are. That can be helpful for SOME as they get older. But others are 100% capable of just learning the mechanics of math and use that understanding until they grow into connecting how those mechanics tie into the real world. A challenge of centralizing Education theory is that EVERY CHILD becomes the subjects of social experiments. I’m sure Common Core helps some, but it certainly hurts others and there’s no reliable evidence that it’s ANY better than other methods. In fact it’s probably best to see how an individual child learns best and use that approach rather than skew everyone’s experience based on a few PhDs intent on making a name for themselves or trying to feel like they actually accomplished something in their lives.
You nailed it. It's theory, and the students are the subjects of the experiments. I was a math subject of the "new math" of the 1970s. That's why, to this day, I can't math beyond the stuff I learned through rote memorization.
EXACTLY. That is exactly right. It is all based on some education graduate student wanting to come up with a convoluted system to base the next education cult on. Most kids need the HOW. If they are smart, they figure out the WHY over time.
The right answer is the ONLY thing that matters in math. Just ask anyone taking the ACT/SAT. My child could also consistently get the right answers but would get marked wrong because he did not use the cumbersome method he was being taught. I had a meeting with the teacher and told her that the dummies in the class are given points for the "work" even though their answers were wrong and in math, the right answer should ALWAYS count as a point no matter what so they could give him points off for not using the method but never for the right answer. Who do you want building the bridge? They got the point. Don't let them do this to your children.
@@MinistryofPeace The right answer is the only thing that matters in standardized testing and the real world. However, in education, it is important to learn processes and algorithms because they often are building blocks for more complex problems or advanced topics later on. As I always tell my kids: the teacher didn't put the question on the test because they wanted to know the answer; they want you to demonstrate that you have learned how to solve problems like this.
It’s not insane, for his age group it splits up the tens and units which can be a very abstract concept at early stages. They do move to the parents format though, I can assure you. They don’t stay in that modality, it’s just a way of expanding on the meaning of tens and units for the earliest stages.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life This is literally the method people too st"pid for math were pulled aside and then given because they were too slow to keep up with the rest.
My friend started a school co-op with several other families. They rented a church basement room so the kids could still socialize. By the time his kids graduated “High School” there were nearly 100 kids in the co-op and they had hired 2 teachers. Best part is they petitioned the school board so the kids could participate in county school sports and athletics. I mean their argument was they pay county property taxes which 40% goes towards public schools so fair is fair.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life Funny how you didn't tack on the "Sorry you aren't bright enough" part of your copypasta comment when replying to the math major.... 🤔🤪
I'm 71 and my mother drilled me on flashcards. Adding 2 numbers together should be second nature. A child should be able to look at 2 number ad know the answer instantly. Also, the number function should be completely abstract. In other words, if I have 7 apples in this pile and 2 apples in this pile, is a distraction and is more than likely going to teach a young student to just count the apples. Flash card shows 7+2= and the child learns the answer by rote is 9. Just 9. Not 9 somethings.
When the kid explained that the 1 in 13 "wants to be with its friends" (the other tens), it reminded me a bit of how my 1st grade teacher, in the 1970s, explained the greater than and less than symbols: The alligator always wants to eat the bigger number. That was a nice, memorable mnemonic device to remember what those symbols mean. The Common Core story about "being with its friends" struck me as merely silly.
The way I remembered the difference between < and > was as follows: Each symbol has a smaller pointy side and a larger side where the lines diverge. The smaller side is always in the direction of the smaller number, while the larger side is in the direction of the larger number.
All my highschool math was taught out of Saxon textbooks. It was printed in black ink only. The closest thing to a picture was when there was a graph. The curriculum was front and center, and I learned algebra and trigonometry. Text books don't need fancy graphics or full color pictures. They don't exist to entertain, they exist to teach you a skill. Kids can learn math if you bother to teach them. When I was in algebra 2 in highschool the Taiwanese, Korean, and Japanese students in my class were all gobsmacked that we were only just learning *what was fourth grade math to them* The "educational" system is no longer its namesake. When "queers for palestine" is a popular movement on university campuses it is pretty damn obvious that critical thought is no longer being taught. Kids are learning to be narcissistic snowflakes from their professors, whom have skin so thin that they can't accept that a student questioning or disagreeing with them is evidence that they actually did their job and educated someone.
Saxon Math and Saxon Physics are excellent. Using the Advanced Math book now; moving into Calculus. So impressive. No graphics, no pictures (other than graphs and diagrams for geometry). But not rote, either: much time is spent proving precepts. Saxon is deep.
I am a retired teacher and I WOULD NEVER send my children to public schools now. People would be amazed at how many teachers throw worksheets at children and get angry if the children don’t know how to complete the assignment. And if you are a good teacher you are attacked by the lazy worthless teachers that have tenure. Parents started waking up when we had the pandemic.
Nah we were taught place values before we were taught borrowing and carrying. There really isn't any difference in 3x5 and 5x3. We were taught grouping before multiplication. New math isn't easily understood by many children as the older method is. The importance in math at least practically, is the correct answer.
You're going to be in trouble if you ever have to learn or explain set theory because {5,5,5} and {3,3,3,3,3} are absolutely 2 different things. BTW, set theory is about 150 years old.
@@LucidStew Set theory wasn't what the video was about. I understand matrixes and sets. Yes those are two different sets. That is what the example in the video was discussing though. It was showing how new math was trying to teach place value.
@@LucidStew Quite true. But you are now talking advanced mathematics. The vast majority of the population has a hard enough time with basic arithmetic, and algebra might as well be a foreign language. The 'factory' model of education is broken and has been for a very long time.
@@m_d1905 Sounds to me like you may have been taught simple, elegant math (old math) Nowadays, it appears that emphasis is more on methodology. What is being taught, with enough repetition, that the students who struggle with basic concepts, do finally 'get it'. But for the mid and high level students it becomes boring and frustrating. So they turn off to math and anything else that is taught in a convoluted, counterintuitive manner. In the end, you wind up with a population that is just smart enough to get themselves into trouble but not smart enough to figure out a way to get out of it without turning to the 'gubmint' and begging for help. This is precisely what the 'powers that be' want. They do not like people that can think for themselves and can solve problems without help. We are annoying. We ask questions that have no good answers. Apologies for the rant, but I have been watching this 'spectacle' for 60+ years and it is not getting better.
I went back to college in 2015. I had to take a basic math class, even though my previous college credits (early 1990s) included advanced algebra. It was common core and I was ready to pull my hair out because it was so insane. Fortunately, I had an instructor close to my age and she completely understood my frustration. She felt it as well. She told me to learn just enough to pass the tests, turn in my homework, and then let it go and forget it ever happened. I only had one class. I can't image how screwed up kids are going to be having it their entire school career.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you're too slow to understand it.
@@the_wanderful_lifeyou repeat this over and over...what complex math? What complex math would you do reliably in your head versus on paper to make it verifiable and reference available? WHAT specific use ?
The author of common core was on the tucker Carlson show about 8 years ago. He said he was hired to build a curriculum that would make kids dumber. He was never seen or heard from again. Weeks afterwards, during the democratic primary in Iowa, the results were delayed for days because their vote counting software did not work.
They aren't trying to teach the children. All they have been trying to do is get the underperformers to test better as quick as possible. This is just like what they've done with reading. Instead of teaching how the letters work to make words they are just having the children memorize the words that will be on the test. So they test well in elementary school but their reading level is stunted at that level of just the words they memorized.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you're too brainwashed to hate everything different.
All numbers being composed of other numbers is a basic tenant of math. Decomposition, like is the kid is doing, can be just as important as composition. This kid will likely be less stumped when he takes linear algebra on the way to his engineering degree.
It's all about "Ballot Fatigue"...... Make everything so expensively long, boring, and monotonous that by the time you get to algebra you drop the towel.
It's a way to visualize the equation because younger students' brains can't process the abstract concept of big numbers. It's like asking a person to visualize 10 tennis balls, easy to do, now visualize 100 tennis balls. That's a little harder. That process allows them to understand the concept of number placement in equations (ones, tens, hundreds, thousands). I am sure if you look at old math books teaching general math, they teach an almost similar way (remember when we would get the graph paper and split the numbers between tens and ones). This isn't the most outrageous example.
Check this out... a few days ago I went to my local grocery chain to get a few items. As with many grocery stores, this one relies on a lot of young high school age kids to work there as cashiers. There are however a handful of retirement age women that also work there as cashiers. They use one of these women to train the new hires. On this particular day I chose the check out line with the lady doing the training because I have known her for years and we always talk briefly about daily things. The young new hire rang up my groceries with the trainer guiding her along the way. When I paid the young girl for my groceries, I had $3.44 cents in change coming back to me, so I patiently waited for her to give it to me. However, she had froze with a look on her face of not fear or embarrassment, but a look of bewilderment. Then she leaned over to the trainer and whispered to her "how do I count out 44 cents?". This poor girl had gone through many years of school and didn't know had to count out 44 cents! We are doomed!
When I was working at a grocery store a couple years ago, some younger co-workers told me that all they learned in school about money in school was one or two days, and pictures of money on worksheets. They never used play money or real money to learn it. I believed that because almost every kid under 16 would just give me a wad of money to count out myself. If we were not busy I would include them in counting out what was needed, give the rest back, and count out the change back. They learned more about money from me than they did at school. So sick. Oh and one of the new hires told me she hadn't known how to count money...she was learning how on the job! Yikes!! She was 18 and getting ready for college. Ummmmmm....
Maybe early on so they have number sense, but they don't need to do that for long. Common core is nuts and any state who says they don't use it has rebranded it, but they are using it,
I was thinking something similar. Counting out the dots and lines like the boy did is how I would use a visual to teach what math is to my 3-4 year old. If he is adding two digit number together like 16 and 47 they should be past that by now.
The problem was not old math. It was getting kids to care about school because all the adults were saying that school doesn’t matter. Now we have a generation where a lot of them can’t do math or reading until high school. Look at other countries, they’re not trying to revamp education and their test scores are higher
It's fine to teach that way with manipulatives, but you have to teach them how to work with pencil and paper once they have a firm grasp of place value.
Homeschool. Enough of this stupidity. My children are homeschooling. It's not nearly as much time as a regular school day and they are all testing above their grade levels. Enough. Shut the education system down and cease the tax collections for public education. Nothing but homeschooling for at least a decade. No current teachers ever allowed to be educators again. Total hard reset.
I'm not sure that's good. Yes, the public schooling (at least in the US) is horribly inefficient. I'm not scoffing at a shorter school day. What I do want to bring up is the spaced out nature of things. Kids have a class that goes over something and then later (not immediately afterwards, but with that class still fresh enough in their head) they solve related problems. Having to retrieve the memory strengthens the neural pathways that lead to the information. There is also something to be said for having things freshly in mind before going to bed because moving memories into a longer term state is one of the primary functions of sleep.
This is not about simplifying math. This is about making it so ridiculous that only those on the spectrum - who are also easily manipulated - can even do it. Let's have a constitutional convention to get rid of the federal government! Public schools today are worse than no schools at all.
Back in my days, we always learning shortcuts to compete in number sense competition, the faster we can figure it out in our head, the better.. The common core way of teaching would never allow anyone to compete at all as it is so ridiculous!!
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
I owned pizza businesses back in the day. We did everything on paper. I HAD to switch to computers because none of the new people could add or spell. A kid went to the adding machine one day, I asked what he was doing. The pizzas were $8.70 and he wanted to know how much for 10. Not a joke.
I'll do you one better. About 25 years ago I went to a basketball game at our local high school and bought something at the concession stand that was $1. I gave the young girl who appeared to be about 8th or 9th grade a $5 bill and she had trouble making change. I ran into one of the science teachers a few minutes later and told him about it and he kind of shrugged his shoulders,
This is stupid when you write it out, but it's how I do math like this quickly in my head: 47 + 16 40 + 10 = 50 6 + 7 = 13 50 + 13 = 63 If you're not writing out long addition, this is the fastest way to add large numbers.
Thats exactly how i do it in my head. I add up multiple sets of up to 4 digits in my head, faster than many can type on calculator. I could do more digits and be accurate, but i'm slower and they can do faster on calculator. So i limit it to 4 digits. I've shown many people i've worked with this. They always asked how i can figure out retail totals and figure out add tax and be accurate.
And that's exactly what Common Core is supposed to show. That most humans do math that way in their head. Except I learned rote memorization, so even in my head I do it like she did on the white board.
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This has to be purposely done to make kids unintelligent.
Bill Gates is the master mind behind Common Core. Its entire purpose is to turn people into mindless robots that just do what they're told.
It is. If you can’t use logic and rationality you’re easier to control.
@@rdgtxs Then get them addicted to the Ipad, observe all their movements online, control the algorithm.
It’s also done to put a gap between parent & the child. Can’t have mom & dad teaching them.
The schools aren’t failing to make kids smarter, they’re succeeding in making them dumber ( ? )
This is why I totally stand behind abolishing the department of education
Dept. of Indoctrination.
They teach kids what to think, not HOW to think, or different approaches to actually _understand_ the problem.
America is fucked.
I don't know about abolishing the department of education, but I do know it needs to be totally reworked.
Maybe delegated to the state level.
I remember in the late 60s, in my kin's home towns where my parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins grew up, a number of my relatives were on the school board. I remember them discussing the vote to accept or not accept government funding, because accepting government funding gave the feds the right to dictate what and how you taught. The government decided your school books and many regulations.
It was a hot argument, but I know at some time they finally accepted government funding. My parnts didn't live in the area (Willamette Valley, OR) when it changed so I don't know the background - maybe they were finally forced to.
Kind of sad.
It won’t be. Your fellow American won’t stand for it.
@@KurtColville Then our 'fellow Americans' are brainwashed.
...and our student loans :)
Common core isn’t about a better way of teaching children, it’s about dumbing down the smart kids so the stupid kids don’t feel inferior. It’s pathetic.
Pathetic is the operative word that epitomizes the left.
Ed zachery
Very true
No child left behind means every child left behind
@@zoso1123 sorry to say , but this sound a bit to close to the reality lol
i will steal this phrase
Common Core is meant to slow the fast kids down. It is all about Equity. No one is permitted to excel. Everyone gets a trophy. THANK GOD I was out of school before Common Core was a thing.
My gifted kid got the answers right but the problems wrong for not showing all the common core work. He didn’t understand the point. He can do complex math in his head and get it right so being forced to do elementary math like this drove him crazy. His teacher said showing the work is more important. That if he shows his work and does it the common core way, he can get the points even if the answer is wrong.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to You should really take your kids out of that school before too much damage is done.
You have no idea what you are talking about. This stuff is all about teaching them a sense of numbers. Eventually it leads to them doing the calculations in their heads. They also will teach the tried and true method that the lady demonstrated in the beginning. In second grade my kid was asking how old everyone in the family was and calculating the year they were born….in his head.
Me too!
@@AlphanumericCharacters In second grade my teachers accused me of having my parents do my maths homework. So, the administration gave me a 100 question pop test, put me in a room by myself and had me take it in an hour. I finished in half the time and the result was that they made me skip 3rd grade, and afterward wanted me to skip 5th as well.
Thing is, some people already have an innate sense of numbers, why slow them down?
Get your kids out of schools like that right now. Save them.
All public schools use a version
@@puttervids472
Oh sure... you went to Harrvard
@@TheThetruthmaster1 what does that mean ? You think basic math is taught at Harvard ?
I’m in private so I’m good
My grandson moved to Seattle and did standard stacked addition. The teacher tried to pull this garbage, his parents told her that he will continue to do math the NORMAL way.
I live in seattle. NOT surprised.
I am an engineer with a masters degree and couldn’t figure out what my 5th graders teacher wanted from them on their math homework. The way they do it is so stupid. I now just teach both my kids math and the other basics outside of school. What they get at school is a joke.
Me too... Math is about finding shortcuts to get the answers quickly, not to make it take longer. In college they showed us how to make ballpark estimates quickly to see if the design seemed reasonable and safe. (i.e. Slide Rule). Of course now you can just ask ChatGPT for the answer, not sure I'd trust that though. Of course back when I was that kids age, I'd use my fingers to count out the answer, similar to an abacus. 😎
I know parents that sent their children to the Russian school of Math tutoring and those kids are far exceeding the average kid in math.
But they then will get failed grades at school because "they don't do it the teacher's way".My youngest, luckily BEFORE this common crap math, had problems enough. He could look at a math assignment and immediately come up with the result, but his teachers made him waste his time and talent describing things the teacher's way coming to the same answer. 😡
Physicist here and it looked to me like my daughter's middle school math was going into the weeds than teaching math or accomplishing solving the math question. Some kind of number matrix and magic incantations.
I'm engineer and my husband is an accountat. I told the teacher we both do math all day for a living, if neither of us can figure out how to do the math problems there is a big problem.
Parents for Christ's sake STOP THIS!!! Get rid of your school board anyway you can to stop this madness!
I'm staggered there are not more parents who try to call out this insanity. Too many sheeple.
@@fyiaustralia9686That’s why government indoctrination factories are here to stay.
if you cant make the dumbest kids smarter, drag everyone else down to their level
how else could we hope to achieve equity? 🤦♂️
Remember: the 'I" from DEI: IDIOTS
This is communism
Yup that’s the unfortunate part of public education system. They have stopped letting the smart kids get ahead and have since forced them to learn at the rate of the slowest kid in class.
Exactly! Why would aerospace companies need actual intelligence when they can have participation trophy winners who check boxes and strand astronauts on space stations instead?
@@mattm4885 Imagine a school kid with a brain: one more lost vote for the left.
This happened with me and my daughter. She brought home some math problems and didn't understand how to do it. So I looked at them and was confused on how they wanted her to do it. I taught her how I was taught and she understood. She did all the problems and had the right answers. Brought the paper back a couple days later and got a bad grade because she didn't do them the way they wanted her to.
And hopefully you pulled her out of that school?
No, he kept her in and a few years later she had preferred pronouns and wanted to remove her breasts.
Yep. My son’s teacher said if he gets the problem right but doesn’t do it the common core way, he doesn’t get the points. But, if he does it the common core way and arrives at the incorrect answer, he’ll still get full points. Makes me scared to go over bridges this generation builds.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to That is so disgusting. All they want kids to learn is how to comply with authority, not how to actually critically think.
That infuriates me. Common core math is gobbledygook. Serves no purpose.
Why does the "new" math require people to perform extra steps? It's a waste of time. Doing it the "old" way is not only simpler but more efficient.
It is supposedly better for dumb kidd who cannot do it in their heads so they can invision the problem, I think. But there is no reason to force everyone to do it
To understand beyond mote memorization
@@shadowmage661 I was the kid who's head would spit out the answer. The teacher would ask to see my work and my response was "what work?" This would drive me insane.
I learned partial sums in school. It was stupid, and I forget how to do it. I do it now mentally.
That would be Common Core for ya!
This is the best argument for eliminating the Dept. of Education and let the states handle it.
Genius is taking something complex and reducing it to its simplest form.
Idiocy is to take something from its simplest form and complicate it.
Common core "math" is idiocy.
This is teaching the method, NOT how to calculate small numbers. It's like saying that teaching a kid 1+1=2 is stupid because how will they ever work with numbers bigger than ten?
@@the_wanderful_life no, it's not a teaching method.
It is a poor teaching method.
Massive distinction.
All this does is confuse kids.
Take the actual child in the video thinking that the proper way to do it, is the wrong "teaching method" they were taught.
The method does not work and confuses the child.
@@the_wanderful_life also, it is not at all like saying that 1+1=2.
As that is foundational and does not complicate the math it literally is.
@@the_wanderful_life what?
@the_wanderful_life I think that allot of adults were exposed to mathmatical abstractions that they all they know is symbolic manipulation. Like people use calculations they don't do math.
This is infuriating , they changed math around 1968. I was in junior high school. I was working on algebra . My brotherlaw had an associate degree in chemistry. I would do math the way he was taught and my father. The teacher would mark it wrong. Right answer, wanted new math formula . When they change math, the state will print new math text books. Big expence , harms kids!!!
After watching this I now realize that 5 out of 4 people have problems with fractions
😂😂😂😂😂
😅
AKA 47%
42% of statistics are made up on the spot
Maybe...but does that mean 10 out of 8 people do too ?
A child telling the parent, "Let me show you how it's actually done" is the spirit of modern education. It's not about teaching the child what is right. It is about convincing the child that the parent is wrong.
Wow! That is scary.
This is what’s been happening for years. My kids went through it and it’s not just math, it’s everything. Complete madness with no curriculum, no evaluating or testing and definitely not failing. Everyone passes no matter what. There are probably two generations of grown children now unable to think.
Those two generations of grown children unable to think, think Kamala Harris should be the next President Of The United States Of America.
Just what they want
That's how you make someone a lifetime dependent and an utterly obedient NPC.
This isn't how you make citizens. This is how you make s****s.
I can't even spell the word or YT removes the comment. Thats how far corrupted things have become.
Part of the plan.
They don't really read books and they print instead of write. Printing is for babies. Handwriting is an art that comes from the heart. It's art. It's beauty. ..they don't want beauty they want CHAOS. Don't let the left win, ever.
We homeschooled our 6 kids with a weekly support group, and this is what I observed: 1) they did creative projects during non book learning time, 2) were friendly to people of all ages including the elderly (much less peer dependency, 3) had no lack of social interaction and not with bad influencers.
It’s like they said “How can we make this as inefficient as possible?” The government is great at figuring that out.
This is how kamala's brain works, but she uses crayons.
Or the teachers decided they need to make the kids dumber than they are or their gig will be up.
I work in finance and this is just brutal. We would never solve a problem like this. Absolutely insane they are teaching this.
I teach high school. It is MINDBLOWING how many freshmen come in who have never taken a geography course of any kind, cannot read script, don’t know the times tables, do not know the parts of speech, and do not know Roman numerals. I don’t know what the hell they’re doing in grade school.
would of, should of, might of
@@Mindraker1 One of my pet peeves!
@@overcomingobstaclescreates1695 It could of been worst!
Learning about their 130 gender choices.
I concur!
Doing common core math, with my child, during COVID-19 lockdowns, over the internet, with internet latency, and bad cameras was horrific - for all of us.
If there was ever a way to drive a wedge between kids and parents, common core is it.
COMMON CORE IS GARBAGE.
This is exactly what happened when my daughter was learning this and when my daughter asked for help I helped her and the teacher marked it wrong because that’s not common core math!! I got mad and told her to tell her teacher to come and help with your homework because that is BS they made it harder and longer to find the damn answer!
My kids did that crap in elementary school and they had to break out of that crap for middle school. They really need to get rid of the teachers union.
All the kid did was draw out his equations. The mom is a few steps head of him. He will eventually get to doing g math the way the mom does. But the the kid doesn’t understand why we roll over we do math like this.
Why stunt him? Why not just start with the right way?
That kid did a great job explaining what he was doing. His Mom's method was a lot quicker.
the kid's way is fine if you can count, but haven't memorized addition of the 10 numerals. If you know 6+7 = 13, Mom's way is best. This requires rote memorization, which is work, which is frowned upon.
The difference is that when he moves on to using the abridged method, he’ll understand what he’s doing - IF it was taught properly; and that’s a really fuck’n big if!
@@donaldobrien9171 All of the people supporting common core math haven't actually looked at just how much student results have dropped on average. It's a good way to teach for the kids who cannot keep up otherwise, but it drags down those who can learn faster methods a lot.
@@awaitingbacklash5043 Must be why average literacy is dropping off a cliff.
@@thenonexistinghero don't get me wrong. I'm all for mom's method .
Yup! I remember my DD in Grade 3 doing this for long division. She was struggling so much with it. When she tried showing me i had to stop her. I then went and showed her the easy way and she picked it up after two questions then flew through her homework. We now homeschool.
This explains how an 18-year-old I personally know could not add or subtract 2 two digit numbers in their head. They said they had to use a calculator. 🤯☮️🇺🇸
You have to teach them the shortcuts too, and I think that’s the problem here. It seems like a decent way to explain to a certain type of kid how the underlying math works, but if you never practice the shortcuts or drill simple math, they’re gonna be slow.
Back in the day, we had calculators, but I never used it or very rarely. By the time someone could punch in the numbers, I was already done answering. All children should be well versed manually!!! Well, before using a calculator...
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example.
@@the_wanderful_life Arithmetic is not complex maths.
I would like to hear an experienced math teacher's take on this.
I taught that. I felt like a moron. The kids got so many wrong answers trying to keep track of their dots and lines.
I thought I was the only one that thought this was crazy.
This is just absurd.
They will gaslight you into thinking this way is SO MUCH BETTER.
Don't allow them to do that. You just need to time someone doing one method and someone doing this crap to know what's the truth.
A few reasons:
Parents can't help, so children learn they must only trust The State. It isn't intuitive, so it teaches children to only listen to The State, not themselves. It intellectually fatigues them so they hate learning. All they have energy left for is video games and entertainment.
That's half of our lives in a nutshell, bro. Your onto something
This is facts!!! And terrifying.
Go Ravens!!!
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you aren't bright enough to help your kids.
@@the_wanderful_life Most of us learn to count by fingers as toddlers. There's no need to force counting dots upon school-children. Sorry if that's the "brightest" way you know.
I truly believe that changes like these are meant to foster a sense of frustration between parent and child. Schools want kids believing that their parents are ill-equipped to help them through anything they might be struggling with, even homework. They want kids to believe that their parents don’t know anything or are too “old fashioned” so they put their trust in the teachers at school rather than in mom and dad. It’s just a ploy to slowly create a disconnect between kids and their parents in an attempt to ultimately dissolve the family unit. It’s time for people to wake up, start homeschooling their kids, and carefully curating who their children associate with.
Once the teachers are truly trusted, it's easy to transfer that trust to the federal government.
My boys are 4 and 5. Homeschooled 100%. I don’t let the devil play inside their heads.
Amen!👏👏👏
Nice
I use to be against homeschooling but I think you have the right idea now.
Bad parenting. Unless you have them play sports and interactive with other kids then w
not everyone can afford that, especially not these days. But yeah 100% homeschooling is a win
I was a Math major, and mI was talking to a math teacher from the local high school about this crap they are teaching our kids. She had to get a book on common core math to help her son with his homework and I couldn't understand what they were teaching my grandson. It's just crazy.
Its designed to make people docile and obedient instead of free thinking and self reliant
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
You say this on every post. In kindergarten we spent our first lesson with Dice to "visualize" it. Then we moved on. We went a week or so with enough "workspace" next to the problems if anyone needed it. Then, if someone still needed workspace it was with scratch/scrap paper, but those who didn't need it moved on.
The reason why no one has cured cancer by now is the intentional dumbing and holding the intelligent back to spare the feelings of the slow. At least back then they knew the world didn't revolve around them. People were motivated to learn by being rewarded for being first. And it encouraged those who weren't to try harder. Bush's push for vegetables first, intelligence last, approach did exactly to this country that i knew was going to happen, fk this country up.
Multiplication is basically shorthand addition. And exponents is shorthand multiplication. Once someone knows the basics they don't need to do long form. It's a TEACHING TOOL, not to be used once you've passed the lesson.
It’s simply a visual representation which is only beneficial to kids who need that visualization. This should be an option, not a requirement.
@@FirstNameLastName-wt5to they’re sitting there for 8 fkn hours or whatever it is per day anyway. Seeing alternative ways to solve problems is beneficial for everyone. Besides, they’ll all be working for the homeschooled kids regardless.
Common core is beneficial to nobody. Unless you want a dumb confused kid.
I tutor math in college and I’m telling you it is worse than you think. I get people in college that cannot do basic arithmetic. Quite a few of them. They are even often on scholarship. You can thank the “no child left behind” act, Covid policy and this crap for it.
There needs to be a hard reset on the public education system.🤦♂️
*a hard reset on everything
My stepson was learning algebra several years ago. I taught him how to do it to get the correct answer. The following day, he brought me home this math assignment and the teacher marked him “wrong” although the answer was correct! This pissed me off highly!
When confronting the teacher, she advised me that I didn’t use the “common core” type of working the problem!!! I advised this teacher that my son would ONLY learn the correct way of doing math and he’d never better be marked wrong again for using said correct math!
This crap is absolutely corrosive to our children’s brains!!! 🤬🤬🤬
This math was designed to make math make sense to kids that aren't so good at math. It's supposed to help them visualize the WHY behind all the symbols. Unfortunately, like all things run by govt, the process becomes more important than the purpose and you become a slave to the process.
it's unnecessary for 80-90% of pupils.
why force it on all ?
@@emmapeel8163 Because those 80-90% are not allowed to be smarter than the rest. That is some kind of ....ist or ...ism.
@@emmapeel8163
Exactly
@@emmapeel8163 You _know_ why: _every_ government solution is one size fits all.
Couldn't have said it better. I was taught a quick little trick like this when I was a kid in the 80's and I still use it today.
Am I missing something... Did the kid just change the problem from 47 + 16 to 50 + 13 and just add them the old fashioned way? Just making it redundant.
If someone asked you do 213 * 87 in your head you'd probably go something like " 200*80 is 16 000, 200 * 7 is 1 400 so that's 17 400, 13*80 is 1040 and 13 * 7 is 91 so that's 1131, 17 400 + 1131 = 18531, 213x87 = 18 531".
That's exactly CC math. Of course you might use different values (like doing 200*90 + 13*90 - 213*3) but that's exactly the same thing. CC math is just about subdividing a problem into problems that are easier to manage for your human brain.
You've been doing CC math most of your life without realising it. There's nothing weird or absurd about it, unless you're willing to consider yourself weird and absurd.
Brother, I’m 63 and I saw them attempt “New Math” when I was in 3rd of 4th grade. It flopped.
I'm five years younger and I remember "new math" being introduced time and time again, every few years or so. Each "new" was different to the old "new".
Don't get me going on about new spelling either. Literally, there were a few phases in UK where they tried to get everyone to learn to spell phonetically. This broke down as it wouldn't accommodate different regional accents: some people learned "was" as "woz" and some as "wuz".
I'm 66 and can confirm that "new math" keeps getting reinvented.
Did your version include using a ruler? I have vague memories of using a ruler as a counting tool, but I can't remember the exact process...thankfully.
Although, New Math was whole opposite of Common Core.
@@quantisedspace7047 You can learn to read phonetically, more or less, but spelling has to be taught one word at a time---at least until one is reading a LOT!
Dude, you’re comparing a kindergartener demonstrating conceptual understanding of addition with an adult who has already learned the concepts and mastered the shortcuts. The shortcuts and algorithms will come and be worked on down the road, but fit now this kid is doing awesome and can actually explain conceptually what’s going on.
Furthermore, how many people have you heard say, “Oh I’m just not a math person.” Part of that is not having the conceptual understanding that this kid demonstrates.
Tell that to the performance scores of all the "common core" kiddos coming out of the modern education system.
In the end, he ended up with 50 + 13 anyway - meaning he STILL had to do the "carry the one" method, just with EXTRA steps. The EXACT same concept of "how many tens? How many ones? Tens go with other tens" IS what you are teaching when you teach "carrying the one" *The ten is what you're carrying.*
Yes, understanding WHY the numbers are what they are is foundational - that does not mean training a kid to draw an entire freaking grid, dot and dash out the multiples of 10, then add them up manually, THEN carry the 1s is a good way to train them to do it. What do you do when you get to 789 + 566? 178,009,677 + 5,238? Or even 67 - 29, since I cant imagine manually adding up the dots solves that? Heck, I dont even wanna KNOW what they plan to do when it's time to learn multiplication.
Theres a reason you teach a child the "right" way to hold a pencil from the instant you begin teaching them how to write, and dont just shrug it off as "that's how they want to do it, and theyre brand new to this anyway, no big deal." Those rote memory skills are MUCH harder to break down and replace than they are to introduce from the get-go.
That explains why you can Never get the right change back from any fast food restaurant when the Internet is down
Same here in 🇦🇺
Reminds me of the joke about a Texas rancher and a government agriculture department bureaucrat on an airliner.
Texas rancher says to ag guy: "We are flying over my ranch now. If you can tell me how many cattle are on my ranch I will give you $500."
Bureaucrat turns to window and his finger starts flying as he's counting. "You have 2,184 cattle on your ranch."
"Here's your $500! How did you do that?"
"Easy! I counted all the legs and divided the total by four."
The kid still had to add 50+13 in his head. Is it really harder to add 47+16 in your head?
You learn how to do the problems on easier problems (that might be done in your head) so you understand when the math becomes more complicated why it works that way. When a kid gets used to doing all the math in their head and not showing work, it can be very hard to figure out why they are getting the wrong answer.
For an 8 year old, yes. Carrying/borrowing with 2 digit numbers is generally taught in first/second grade. An 8-9 year old would be just starting to practice these methods. 50+13 is definitely easier to see than 47+16. Even math majors will use similar methods to simplify arithmetic, no need to be unnecessarily inefficient. For example, I wouldn't think of 8/3 as just a single fraction, I would mod it to 2 + 2/3, a lot easier to see what the final result would be. I sucked at math all the way through elementary and middle school, only starting to figure it out when I tried to understand it around 10th grade, I was taught the old math style. If "new math" which is a style of mathematics that has been around since at least the 50's and was developed by mathematicians during the 20th century, helps kids better visualize math while they are learning it, and then teach them how to do regular arithmetic later, I don't see a problem with that.
Yeah, duh. Simply incrementing 5 by 1 to get 60, and then changing the 0 to a 3 is easier. But it's done in extra steps that are just tedious and slow people down.
The kid did not do that. He added the 10 to 50 to make 60 and then added the 3. It's the same thing operationally, only the ten from 13 is being "carried" at the end instead of in the middle. The only thing dumb is the counting, but this is a pretty young kid. It probably helps them keep track better. Wrote memorization seems simple when you already know it, but in primary school in the 80s we spent at least 3 years learning basic addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division with wrote memorization. I wouldn't call that efficient.
@@sarahschreffler5407 Then how did people learn (and learn better) in the past before this new math?
"You can't take 3 from 2. 2 is less than 3, so you look at the 4 in the 10s place. Now, that's really 4 10s, so you make it 3 10s. Regroup, and you change the 10 to 10 1s.... Hooray for New Math, Nu-u-u Math...." - Tom Lehrer
We would never have gotten out of the stone age with that approach to math.
My grandson was taught this way. He's in the seventh grade now. I realized he was being taught this way at least 3 years ago. I did exactly what this Mom did. I was blown away by this insanity. Pisses me off BIGLY.
We love homeschooling. Maybe it’s not for every family, but it’s been a blessing for our kids.
Agree 100%. Now I tutor advanced math homeschoolers. Love it.
YOU’RE a Blessing to your kids ❤️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Idk. I’m. Chinese American so I might send my kids to China for schooling. Chemistry physics and math are the best there
American schools. Y’all are behind by way too much
Common Core Math isn't helping the kids. It's actually making them STUPIDER.
remember parents, school is not there to make your kids smarter,
once they learn to read, write and count, its basically daycare till the factory doors close.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life You clearly didn't learn it well enough, or you'd realize it's the exact same thing as what the mother did, just with overly complicated setup and steps.
@@Ranstone no, it “literally” isn’t, or it would be the same thing….. you boomers can’t go fast enough.
@@the_wanderful_life Pretty sure large swaths of millennials, Gen X, Boomers, AND the silent generation think this is approach is terrible, and I dont mean some dude who made a political comment with no background. Im talking anyone who uses math in their professions. From construction workers & architects who do napkin math all the time. Engineers who work out physics problems regularly, Accountants that doe arithmetic all day. If so many people from so many different backgrounds that have to functionally utilize mathematics in their daily life are all asking WTF is being achieved measurably by doing it like this, that should give you at least some pause.
@@sethwilliams4015 I am one of those people you’re describing (ME with 20 years in industrial and aerospace design and cfd analysis), and I learned this underlying concept 40 years ago…. It’s just a practical example for small children to grasp the CONCEPT; not a hard and fast rule that they will perform all mathematics in that fashion from today onwards…… Every day I used the underlying concept that this teaching exercise explains. This is just outrage porn for outrage addicts.
The only good thing I could see about that new math is that the parents to run out for a cigarette or a quick errand and still come back and the child will just be finishing up
Ridiculous
I was born in 1967 so in school early 70s. I was a product of "new" math back then. It totally messed me up for life. Everything old becomes new again!
Teaching a kid to do math like that is literal child abuse.
This is teaching the method, NOT how to calculate small numbers. It's like saying that teaching a kid 1+1=2 is stupid because how will they ever work with numbers bigger than ten?
@@the_wanderful_life This method is overly complicated. The original method is so much easier.
@@the_wanderful_life nowadays its more like "if x=2y+3" how much climate change does it cause and 10 extra points if you are transgender.
on serious note i know a 14 year old who cant do simple mental arithmetic and a 30 year old work colleague that brings out a calculator/cellphone to do the most basic maths.
now i admit i could read/write and do simple maths when entering school at 5, some kids today can do the same but classrooms try to make everyone equal and "dumb down some" and upscale the rest
@@jag92949 you’re wrong. It’s designed for calculating large numbers in your head, easily. Nobody would ever actually use it for small numbers (like in the video), but working with small numbers like this is how a small child can learn the underlying concept.
@@the_wanderful_life Here’s my strategy for solving 47 + 16 without a pencil. You add 20 to 47 making 67 then subtract 4 from it (since 16 = 20 - 4). The answer is 63. That’s better than stupid tally marks or the traditional method. I know woke educators can’t do math and teach it in the most cumbersome and tedious way possible, but this is painful.
Our kids were homeschooled all the way through. One aced calculus while dual enrolled at the state university as a high school senior, and the other aced all math classes while at university. No "new math" to gum up the works and slow them down. So glad we got them out young for many reasons. Dad's an engineer, so the math was old school, and he would not let them advance until they understood the concepts and laws and developed speed. Mental math was required of them as well as real world application. They are thriving as independent adults. Get your kids out.
This new generation WILL MAKE THE WHEEL SQUARE!
lol bro
I was born in Taiwan and moved to the US when I was 9. I literally didn’t learn anything new in math classes for 2 years. Even when there was new material, I would do my homework during class and turn it in at end of class and I still get A’s in math.
And this was decades ago.
When it's better to just count on your fingers, the math system has failed...
I refused to teach common core mathematics to my children. How the hell was I supposed to help them understand this crap? And these standardized tests? They get these kids so stressed out about these tests. I told my girls to treat them like detention. You just have to sit through it. You don't have to worry about what happens after you've already sat through the punishment.
And the only reason all that pressure is applied is because average scores affect FUNDING. It's about having school systems not appear to be the failures they are.
You're basically teaching your children to not apply themselves at a time when it matters. Whether they go into any profession or become entrepreneurs, connecting testing to detention is training their brain to not push themselves in that field. If effort isn't emphasized during testing, when else is it being emphasized? Take even this TH-cam video as an example. This video is almost like a test for that TH-cam creator, and if they drop the ball on maximizing all aspects of effort on that video, the results/views fall flat. I wonder what the medical profession, or the law profession, or even any other aspect of our world would be like if every parent told their children to treat testing like it is detention. "Don't worry about what happens after." Let's just chill.
The thing older people don't understand is that they weren't taught math in school. They were taught calculating. That method comes from back when calculator was an occupation not an app installed on everyone's phone.
Interesting point
You don't seem to understand what math is.
What are you on about rn
I once spent 45 minutes explaining to my crying 4th grader why - while he got the right answer and could do so consistently - he was marked wrong because he didn’t do it the way he was told.
Here’s the thing, there’s more than one way to learn. I get that Common Core ostensibly helps kids understand the “concept” of what one, seven, ten, thirty-four, etc actually are. That can be helpful for SOME as they get older.
But others are 100% capable of just learning the mechanics of math and use that understanding until they grow into connecting how those mechanics tie into the real world.
A challenge of centralizing Education theory is that EVERY CHILD becomes the subjects of social experiments. I’m sure Common Core helps some, but it certainly hurts others and there’s no reliable evidence that it’s ANY better than other methods.
In fact it’s probably best to see how an individual child learns best and use that approach rather than skew everyone’s experience based on a few PhDs intent on making a name for themselves or trying to feel like they actually accomplished something in their lives.
You nailed it. It's theory, and the students are the subjects of the experiments. I was a math subject of the "new math" of the 1970s. That's why, to this day, I can't math beyond the stuff I learned through rote memorization.
EXACTLY. That is exactly right. It is all based on some education graduate student wanting to come up with a convoluted system to base the next education cult on. Most kids need the HOW. If they are smart, they figure out the WHY over time.
The right answer is the ONLY thing that matters in math. Just ask anyone taking the ACT/SAT.
My child could also consistently get the right answers but would get marked wrong because he did not use the cumbersome method he was being taught. I had a meeting with the teacher and told her that the dummies in the class are given points for the "work" even though their answers were wrong and in math, the right answer should ALWAYS count as a point no matter what so they could give him points off for not using the method but never for the right answer. Who do you want building the bridge? They got the point. Don't let them do this to your children.
@@MinistryofPeace The right answer is the only thing that matters in standardized testing and the real world. However, in education, it is important to learn processes and algorithms because they often are building blocks for more complex problems or advanced topics later on. As I always tell my kids: the teacher didn't put the question on the test because they wanted to know the answer; they want you to demonstrate that you have learned how to solve problems like this.
FOLLOW THE FKNG DIRECTIONS.
It’s not insane, for his age group it splits up the tens and units which can be a very abstract concept at early stages. They do move to the parents format though, I can assure you. They don’t stay in that modality, it’s just a way of expanding on the meaning of tens and units for the earliest stages.
Robert Par had it right. "Why'd they change math? MATH IS MATH!"
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life This is literally the method people too st"pid for math were pulled aside and then given because they were too slow to keep up with the rest.
My friend started a school co-op with several other families. They rented a church basement room so the kids could still socialize. By the time his kids graduated “High School” there were nearly 100 kids in the co-op and they had hired 2 teachers. Best part is they petitioned the school board so the kids could participate in county school sports and athletics. I mean their argument was they pay county property taxes which 40% goes towards public schools so fair is fair.
I got my degree in mathematics and this makes my head hurt because it’s so redundant and time inefficient
It's obviously to handicap the next generation against Ch ! Na.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
@@the_wanderful_life Funny how you didn't tack on the "Sorry you aren't bright enough" part of your copypasta comment when replying to the math major.... 🤔🤪
@@overcomingobstaclescreates1695 you outrage addicted boomers can’t go fast enough.
@@the_wanderful_lifemate it’s clearly a worse way of doing it. This is apparent to people from every generation.
I'm 71 and my mother drilled me on flashcards. Adding 2 numbers together should be second nature. A child should be able to look at 2 number ad know the answer instantly.
Also, the number function should be completely abstract. In other words, if I have 7 apples in this pile and 2 apples in this pile, is a distraction and is more than likely going to teach a young student to just count the apples.
Flash card shows 7+2= and the child learns the answer by rote is 9. Just 9. Not 9 somethings.
That’s just simple addition, wait until pre-algebra, it’ll take a whole semester to do one formula.
They’re essentially teaching them to count on their fingers. How to dumb down children
I’m getting my degree in education- almost done. They’re prioritizing teaching place value. It weirds me out. So many extra steps.
When the kid explained that the 1 in 13 "wants to be with its friends" (the other tens), it reminded me a bit of how my 1st grade teacher, in the 1970s, explained the greater than and less than symbols: The alligator always wants to eat the bigger number. That was a nice, memorable mnemonic device to remember what those symbols mean.
The Common Core story about "being with its friends" struck me as merely silly.
The way I remembered the difference between < and > was as follows:
Each symbol has a smaller pointy side and a larger side where the lines diverge.
The smaller side is always in the direction of the smaller number, while the larger side is in the direction of the larger number.
All my highschool math was taught out of Saxon textbooks.
It was printed in black ink only. The closest thing to a picture was when there was a graph. The curriculum was front and center, and I learned algebra and trigonometry.
Text books don't need fancy graphics or full color pictures. They don't exist to entertain, they exist to teach you a skill.
Kids can learn math if you bother to teach them. When I was in algebra 2 in highschool the Taiwanese, Korean, and Japanese students in my class were all gobsmacked that we were only just learning *what was fourth grade math to them*
The "educational" system is no longer its namesake. When "queers for palestine" is a popular movement on university campuses it is pretty damn obvious that critical thought is no longer being taught.
Kids are learning to be narcissistic snowflakes from their professors, whom have skin so thin that they can't accept that a student questioning or disagreeing with them is evidence that they actually did their job and educated someone.
Saxon Math and Saxon Physics are excellent. Using the Advanced Math book now; moving into Calculus. So impressive. No graphics, no pictures (other than graphs and diagrams for geometry). But not rote, either: much time is spent proving precepts. Saxon is deep.
Saxon is wonderful. The old orange, red, green, and black books are great.
I am a retired teacher and I WOULD NEVER send my children to public schools now. People would be amazed at how many teachers throw worksheets at children and get angry if the children don’t know how to complete the assignment. And if you are a good teacher you are attacked by the lazy worthless teachers that have tenure. Parents started waking up when we had the pandemic.
What is the difference between three 5's and five 3's?
Old math, nothing
New math, everything
Nah we were taught place values before we were taught borrowing and carrying. There really isn't any difference in 3x5 and 5x3. We were taught grouping before multiplication. New math isn't easily understood by many children as the older method is. The importance in math at least practically, is the correct answer.
You're going to be in trouble if you ever have to learn or explain set theory because {5,5,5} and {3,3,3,3,3} are absolutely 2 different things. BTW, set theory is about 150 years old.
@@LucidStew Set theory wasn't what the video was about. I understand matrixes and sets. Yes those are two different sets. That is what the example in the video was discussing though. It was showing how new math was trying to teach place value.
@@LucidStew Quite true. But you are now talking advanced mathematics. The vast majority of the population has a hard enough time with basic arithmetic, and algebra might as well be a foreign language. The 'factory' model of education is broken and has been for a very long time.
@@m_d1905 Sounds to me like you may have been taught simple, elegant math (old math) Nowadays, it appears that emphasis is more on methodology. What is being taught, with enough repetition, that the students who struggle with basic concepts, do finally 'get it'. But for the mid and high level students it becomes boring and frustrating. So they turn off to math and anything else that is taught in a convoluted, counterintuitive manner.
In the end, you wind up with a population that is just smart enough to get themselves into trouble but not smart enough to figure out a way to get out of it without turning to the 'gubmint' and begging for help. This is precisely what the 'powers that be' want. They do not like people that can think for themselves and can solve problems without help. We are annoying. We ask questions that have no good answers.
Apologies for the rant, but I have been watching this 'spectacle' for 60+ years and it is not getting better.
I went back to college in 2015. I had to take a basic math class, even though my previous college credits (early 1990s) included advanced algebra.
It was common core and I was ready to pull my hair out because it was so insane.
Fortunately, I had an instructor close to my age and she completely understood my frustration. She felt it as well.
She told me to learn just enough to pass the tests, turn in my homework, and then let it go and forget it ever happened.
I only had one class. I can't image how screwed up kids are going to be having it their entire school career.
I was convinced that I was being pranked when I first saw common core math.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you're too slow to understand it.
@@the_wanderful_lifeyeah complex math like addition, can’t wait til you discover multiplication genius.
@@znartj you have the IQ of someone who calls Trump a racist.
@@the_wanderful_lifeyou repeat this over and over...what complex math?
What complex math would you do reliably in your head versus on paper to make it verifiable and reference available?
WHAT specific use ?
@the_wanderful_life Are you jewish?
The author of common core was on the tucker Carlson show about 8 years ago. He said he was hired to build a curriculum that would make kids dumber. He was never seen or heard from again. Weeks afterwards, during the democratic primary in Iowa, the results were delayed for days because their vote counting software did not work.
Common core was all about the teacher telling your kids mom and dad are wrong….the teacher is always right
They aren't trying to teach the children. All they have been trying to do is get the underperformers to test better as quick as possible. This is just like what they've done with reading. Instead of teaching how the letters work to make words they are just having the children memorize the words that will be on the test. So they test well in elementary school but their reading level is stunted at that level of just the words they memorized.
I actually had a math teacher try to tell me core teaches the science behind the math. His argument was stupid.
I don't think this method will ever give kids overview and insight, let alone teaches them the science behind the math.
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago. Sorry you're too brainwashed to hate everything different.
Assuming that's not preposterous on its face, it would still behoove them to learn the efficient math to actually, like, do.
It's how you do addition and subtraction for non-base-10 numbers in your head.
0xA + 0x7 = 17
17 % 16 = 1
Therefore 0x11
All numbers being composed of other numbers is a basic tenant of math. Decomposition, like is the kid is doing, can be just as important as composition. This kid will likely be less stumped when he takes linear algebra on the way to his engineering degree.
I’m a teacher. It’s not about efficiency. It’s about babysitting which mirrors a working parent’s work schedule.
It's all about "Ballot Fatigue"...... Make everything so expensively long, boring, and monotonous that by the time you get to algebra you drop the towel.
It's a way to visualize the equation because younger students' brains can't process the abstract concept of big numbers. It's like asking a person to visualize 10 tennis balls, easy to do, now visualize 100 tennis balls. That's a little harder. That process allows them to understand the concept of number placement in equations (ones, tens, hundreds, thousands). I am sure if you look at old math books teaching general math, they teach an almost similar way (remember when we would get the graph paper and split the numbers between tens and ones). This isn't the most outrageous example.
If my children were still young today I would homeschool. This is ridiculous
Check this out... a few days ago I went to my local grocery chain to get a few items. As with many grocery stores, this one relies on a lot of young high school age kids to work there as cashiers. There are however a handful of retirement age women that also work there as cashiers. They use one of these women to train the new hires. On this particular day I chose the check out line with the lady doing the training because I have known her for years and we always talk briefly about daily things. The young new hire rang up my groceries with the trainer guiding her along the way. When I paid the young girl for my groceries, I had $3.44 cents in change coming back to me, so I patiently waited for her to give it to me. However, she had froze with a look on her face of not fear or embarrassment, but a look of bewilderment. Then she leaned over to the trainer and whispered to her "how do I count out 44 cents?". This poor girl had gone through many years of school and didn't know had to count out 44 cents! We are doomed!
When I was working at a grocery store a couple years ago, some younger co-workers told me that all they learned in school about money in school was one or two days, and pictures of money on worksheets. They never used play money or real money to learn it. I believed that because almost every kid under 16 would just give me a wad of money to count out myself. If we were not busy I would include them in counting out what was needed, give the rest back, and count out the change back. They learned more about money from me than they did at school. So sick.
Oh and one of the new hires told me she hadn't known how to count money...she was learning how on the job! Yikes!! She was 18 and getting ready for college. Ummmmmm....
Maybe early on so they have number sense, but they don't need to do that for long. Common core is nuts and any state who says they don't use it has rebranded it, but they are using it,
I was thinking something similar. Counting out the dots and lines like the boy did is how I would use a visual to teach what math is to my 3-4 year old. If he is adding two digit number together like 16 and 47 they should be past that by now.
The problem was not old math. It was getting kids to care about school because all the adults were saying that school doesn’t matter. Now we have a generation where a lot of them can’t do math or reading until high school.
Look at other countries, they’re not trying to revamp education and their test scores are higher
It's fine to teach that way with manipulatives, but you have to teach them how to work with pencil and paper once they have a firm grasp of place value.
Homeschool. Enough of this stupidity. My children are homeschooling. It's not nearly as much time as a regular school day and they are all testing above their grade levels.
Enough. Shut the education system down and cease the tax collections for public education. Nothing but homeschooling for at least a decade. No current teachers ever allowed to be educators again. Total hard reset.
I homeschool. My kids are all usually done by noon, and we are not early risers.
I'm not sure that's good. Yes, the public schooling (at least in the US) is horribly inefficient. I'm not scoffing at a shorter school day.
What I do want to bring up is the spaced out nature of things. Kids have a class that goes over something and then later (not immediately afterwards, but with that class still fresh enough in their head) they solve related problems. Having to retrieve the memory strengthens the neural pathways that lead to the information. There is also something to be said for having things freshly in mind before going to bed because moving memories into a longer term state is one of the primary functions of sleep.
This is not about simplifying math. This is about making it so ridiculous that only those on the spectrum - who are also easily manipulated - can even do it. Let's have a constitutional convention to get rid of the federal government! Public schools today are worse than no schools at all.
Back in my days, we always learning shortcuts to compete in number sense competition, the faster we can figure it out in our head, the better.. The common core way of teaching would never allow anyone to compete at all as it is so ridiculous!!
This is literally the method for doing complex math in your head. They're simply showing how the underlying method works by using small numbers as an example. I learned this 40 years ago.
This is about driving a wedge between parents and their children. It's about destroying common ground in families.
This is how liberals do it so it must be right🙄
We all knew that liberals would circle back to "2+2=5".
I owned pizza businesses back in the day. We did everything on paper. I HAD to switch to computers because none of the new people could add or spell. A kid went to the adding machine one day, I asked what he was doing. The pizzas were $8.70 and he wanted to know how much for 10. Not a joke.
I'll do you one better. About 25 years ago I went to a basketball game at our local high school and bought something at the concession stand that was $1. I gave the young girl who appeared to be about 8th or 9th grade a $5 bill and she had trouble making change. I ran into one of the science teachers a few minutes later and told him about it and he kind of shrugged his shoulders,
I wonder what it would take to drag math up from these depths, since I doubt the ability of the teachers themeelves to be reeducated.
$1.30. Took me 3 seconds.
@@LeslieKaster-j5h You win the math Darwin award lol!
They are basically teaching counting on your fingers so they can test well even though they don't understand the math.
But there are much faster traditional ways to do math even on one's fingers, so they're failing by any measure!
This is stupid when you write it out, but it's how I do math like this quickly in my head:
47 + 16
40 + 10 = 50
6 + 7 = 13
50 + 13 = 63
If you're not writing out long addition, this is the fastest way to add large numbers.
Thats exactly how i do it in my head. I add up multiple sets of up to 4 digits in my head, faster than many can type on calculator. I could do more digits and be accurate, but i'm slower and they can do faster on calculator. So i limit it to 4 digits. I've shown many people i've worked with this. They always asked how i can figure out retail totals and figure out add tax and be accurate.
And that's exactly what Common Core is supposed to show. That most humans do math that way in their head. Except I learned rote memorization, so even in my head I do it like she did on the white board.
I do something similar...
47 + 10 = 57
57 + 6 =63
@@JasonSena08 That's what I do. 47 + 16: 47 + 10 = 57, but there's 6 left to add, leaves you at 63. What that kid did is a little different.
I do slightly different and don't break down one number.
47 +10 +6