Honestly, if the knives they're counterfeiting are actually decent, I don't see why they wouldn't just put forth the effort and start their own knife company. If they're good enough to excel in looking like real name brand knives, they might excel in actually being a knife company.
SoimVan Probably easier to make a knockoff and sell it for people on budgets that want a certain high dollar knifes look vs making your own designs. The work is done for you because you already know what is sought after, just copy it and throw a lower price on it.
Me. Personally. When I was younger, everything I owned was fake. LOL Until I grew up and realized something. That kind of represents you. As a person. If you are buying fake things and passing them off as the real thing. That shows what kind of character you're made of. Now buying something that's fake and admitting "Hey it's a fake but I loved the design and couldn't afford the real thing." That's a different story. But for me, personally, I don't buy them.
This is the reason I only buy from reputable dealers. Its crazy how close the fakes are to the real thing these days. If you didn't know what to look for most people wouldn't know the difference.
One thing to keep in mind though, these knockoffs were supposed to be sold in China as alternatives because we do not have easy access to legit brands. Knife collecting in China is technically illegal. Though no body really cares including the police, it is still extremely hard to purchase any legit foreign brand knives(or extremely expensive. A real Spyderco PM2 costs around $200 in China, most of the extra was used to pay for the "shipping and handling"), yet the local demand is big, and that's where knockoffs come to play.
So China churns out all these knives and they don't let their own people have them. This is why I buy USA stuff almost exclusively, when I can at least.
One good reason to buy authentic stuff is that it supports the people who advance the state of the art, rather than supporting people who just try to sponge off other peoples' innovation and branding. If knockoffs were all that people bought, nothing would ever improve. We'd still be using sharp rocks to cut things.
It was pleasant and surprising to hear that this fan of your followed you from age 13 to 18. But now that I think about it, I'm coming up on being a 5 year subscriber as well... time really does fly, especially when you're older.
id say the box looks fake, from what i know on the real boxes the last number is really close "nearly touching" the lines. there also thicker. but again im no expert.
i think this is so said,for us people who love our spyderco's and are willing to pay the extra to get the real deal,there should be a law banning copy's made from china,i don't support it and will never willingly buy one! or even show a unboxing of one of them.
It's one think cloning a design and calling it something else but out right copying the whole thing including the Manufacturer's name and etchings... This is outright stealing and robbing Spyderco! We should avoid at all cost giving these thieves a stage to market their stolen goods.
Blane Biondolillo: there is, just like there is a law that soliciters can't call you on your phone. Or that criminals can't lock up you computer and charge you a random to unlock it. To stop the ransom ware on your computer, all they have to do is go after the banksters that channel your money to the crooks. But it never happens because our government is corrupt.
I handled a fake Military at our local flea market. This one was $50. It was smallish like a Paramilitary. All of my Spydees deploy smoothly out of the box. The fake one had a sticky blade. The jimping was sloppy and the black paint was runny looking on the spine jimping and inside the pivot area. The lettering looked different and was stamped a little closer to the handle. The liner lock was made of a different looking material than the titanium on my Millie. The G-10 was a little cheaper looking, and a little more raised. Everything else was pretty convincing. At a quick glance it did look like a Para 2.
Jeff, where are your pipe tobacco preferences, if any, leaning these days? Have you sort of zeroed in on a certain style, i.e., Englishes, Balkans, VAs, VaPers? (I'm basically a straight VA and VaPer smoker with an occasional bowl of Penzance or G.L. Pease Westminster). Hard to say anything about the materials used in that fake. Could shear, chip, bend easy. I guess it might make a good beater. Definitely let us know with a follow-up. Finally, I would really appreciate you letting me know what you think of the CASE blade steels, both CV and SS. Been thinking of collecting a few, but if it is nothing beyond the quality of, say, a rough rider, I may just stick with better blade steels. I use everything I buy, so performance always trumps looks or pedigree.
Sometimes even the legit ones have laser etching errors like this. I've experienced this on both spyderco and benchmade. But I assure you it doesn't mean they are fake that depends on the blade finish and what not. But yes atrention to detail is important
I have a sog aegis which is garbage I got it from a hunting chain in Toronto. the lock does not work properly it untightens constantly, anyone know if its fake?
Hey jeff of all the youtubers, even nutn, you have been the most consistant on your channel. Everyone "takes a break" for a month or so, follows some tactical fad. Lookin back, you have grown (and shrunk) and changed, but are still true to your core. Always a gentleman and really cool. Keep up the amazing work. You are a man of many hobbies and i think that makes for a cool dude and youtuber. Iv prob learned more from you than i did in high school lol. Mostly because we where probably very similar in that fashion cheech! As for the knife imediately i noticed the handle didnt have satin liners poping out. And on the real pm2 isnt the lanyard holl through the pocket clip? Also can you carry that for a bit and see if it takes an edge. If it does and the action can be KINDA worked in i would def buy for 20 bucks.
i just bought a sage 1 and a squeak for 105 and 15 bucks on amazon and i'm afraid that the second one is fake although they're coming from the same seller. and frankly i wouldn't really mind if it was fake since i could return it easily, but more that i'm not gonna tell if it is. any good advice? i've only held like 2-3 spydercos in my life. so i'm not an expert.
Thousands of young people think you are awesome. So do I. I love the effect you have on our American community, (and worldwide community, as I think of it). I will be 60 next year. You just continue to love yourself Jeff, strengths and weaknesses combined, enjoy your hobbies, wife, pets, and family, and we will all stay subscribed. Do your best, don't sweat it when you are not perfect (For real - I haven't loved everything you have posted). I love how you treat young people as real people who are important and valued. OK, gag... enough bromance. But you are Da Man.
I have a spyderco CPM S30v replica ,used it yesterday for splicing wood for campfire and it worked fine...it also is 1/4 the price of the original Spyderco.
Personally these fakes don't bother me. I went and checked some out and I'm actually thinking about getting some, but I'm not going to try and tell people it's real. Most of the ones I'm looking at are ~$20 but are copies of $100+ knives. The only people that would buy the fakes can't afford the real deal so it's not really taking money from the genuine companies and it also lets me see if I like a design. Maybe it will encourage me to spend money on the real thing if I like it enough.
I had the "pleasure" of purchasing a fake PM as well, however this one is quite a bit closer to the original than mine... Mine has a good grind, looking better than on this one, but it has a liner lock (!) instead of the original compression lock, the screws are with rounded heads, and has no jimping on top or bottom edge. It has all the proper markings and signatures, not unlike this one. I doubt that the blade is really made of CPM S30V steel, but so far it's been holding an edge pretty well.
Thx, CL. Unless you're broke, why buy junk? knives are tools and tools last a man's lifetime. If you work on cars or any skilled trade, you throw junk tools at the wall - they are repulsive to hold and when you think about it, a waste of resources. Can break or damage what you work on. No pride in craft.
The obvious things you can look out for in the KO is the letter that's included uses very glossy paper when the real deal uses regular paper. Also, the engraving on the blade is a lighter color when the real one is darker.
the compression lock on the real one is much smoother and quicker. The logos are also darker, and on the real one you can tell the steel is great just by looking at it.
Dude, that website is ridiculous...I'm a guitar player and they have all sorts of tempting fakes...they also have fake medford knives, cold steel, etc...as well as some 5.11 tactical backpacks...all sorts of stuff. I really like that as someone with little income I can buy china made stuff, my reason I can't get into these is the brands! Why do they have to put the brands on! Feels way more wrong! lol, but it's all definitely interesting. I'll be interested in how this holds up.
I'm going to guess that it's an OEM that makes/made Spyderco stuff at some point and those are the ones that don't pass QA and don't qualify to get the Spyderco name on it. Check to see if it has the 'ding' (exact location changes per model, worth a look-up) of a faulty Spydie. Cheers.
Seeing these Spyderco knockoffs get me worried that the Delica 4 FFG that I just got off of ebay might not be the real deal. I'm pretty new to Spyderco and I like the knife but how am I to know it's real?
the spring in kershaw leek is not even that powerful. besides its spring assisted, it won't even activate unless you push it first. the spring doesnt have enough force to break the safety. so for the spring to activate something must have happened to cause the safety to break with is not the knife's fault
+SEPI AUSTIN Some do and some don't. I've seen some say the blade is D2 and its clearly not and some do advertise as 440c, 8cr13mov, and even S30v which is more believable since its lower grade steel. I wouldn't expect the best when it comes to fakes. Not saying some wont last for years but its hard to know what you really get.
I just bought a regular military from cabalas and this video Has me looking at my knife so close! How do I know if its fake?!?! Would cabalas sell me a fake? I'm really concerned! The knife feels as solid as anything and the detail is really good. But that knife looks convincing too! I am like freaking out!
I have one of these...pretty good for twenty bucks. The pocket clip screws stripped when I tried to tighten them. That has never happened with my actual spyderco's
Are there any Clones or Knockoffs worth buying? or,,Similar products but less expensive than the Original. I understand that we pay for quality but we are also paying for originality. To me, Quality is Key! We are all looking for both inexpensive and quality products to make our lives easier and safer! Thx,,,
So buying the tenacious i feel like im being robbed by spyderco because there letting the Chinese build them and sell them to us and spyderco is making a profit on us lets think about that one??
Guys PLEASE stop buying these knives. Not only are they not as good as the real thing but every time you buy one your supporting the people who make these. And when good hardworking people order one and it comes in fake. That good hardworking man gets litteraly robbed. I have ordered one of these for 122.97$ on amazon and it's not hear yet, but you do not know the feeling of jusspt hoping the one you get is an authentic spyderco.
luke117 reviews I hear you man. it makes me sick. se with oakley. what bugs me the st is people willingly buying fakes so they can look like they own the real thing. most enthusiasts of any kind can't afford the toys but they save up for it and make sacrifices.
hey what i found as well to check spyderco for fakes easy method is to check the trademarked hole there should be a sign of the high carbon steal so it has layers in the hole where in a fake there is a smooth surface
The easiest way to pick the fake box is the absence of the trademark "R", below the spider logo. There should be 2 "R"s on the front of the box, not 1.
life long knife lover and collector and have just found your channel in the past two days and I just subbed and already think I'm gonna be a fan!! thanks and God bless you good sir.
I see a lot of negativity toward Chinese knock off knives in the comments. I guess the quote "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" doesn't apply to cutlery clones. I wonder if attitudes would change if the knife was an unlicensed spyderco tenacious that was an exact copy for half the price of a licensed one. People might think that it serves them right for outsourcing American jobs. Companies that send their manufacturing jobs to china are at risk of having indistinguishable duplicates flood the market.
I know some will probably hate me for this but i ordered a Fake Spyderco PITS, because i live in Germany and with our stupidly strict Knife Laws the PITS is the closest you get to a locking Folder. But i am not paying this extremely high Price Spyderco asks for. They really should make a budget Version of this knife, without Titanium Scales n Stuff to make it cheaper because some People like me do not have a second Option rn. I am 18 and still going to shool so there is no way i can spend around 400 Bucks on a Knife.
I have a real PM2 and I admit I bought the 8$ fake from wish also, but only after I bought The real thing.. I bought it for a cheap junker knife I dont nessecarily care about loosing if I did, and to practice sharpening it so I dont ruin my good one.. yes i know the steels are not the same, so it wont be the same for sharpening. But that was my idea on it.
i purchased off amazon a uk legal non locking spyderco and it came in a box like that one , i hope i got a real spyderco, im brand new to these type of knives and purchased spyderco because of its reputation, i forget how much i paid but it wasnt cheap also there is no play in it at all plus i picked one up at walmart for i think 46.00 in a sealed plastic but it just says spyderco on it there is no name otherwise and the metal its made of says 807 mov somthing like that , i just hope i didnt get a clone, could someone check out the non locking spyderco on amazon and let me know your thoughts on it , its the 1st one you see
You can always do a steel scratch test I got a clone on ebay that was supposed to be in zdp189 it was easily scratched by a cheap kitchen knife being in the mid 60s it shouldn't do that
One of the (many) problems with fakes/clones, IMO anyhow, is that they give legit Chinese mfgs. like Maxace, Rike, Reate, We Knife Co, etc. a bad name by association ... these guys put out a quality product, and they are not producing 'clones' - some may be "similar" in appearance to other knives, but they are not stamping blades with a Spydie logo and trying to pass them off as legit Spyderco products, for example. That's the big difference.
It's very easy to see the attraction here,esp the 80+% of the knife for 20% of the cost aspect! BUT the knife you have is NOT what it claims to be,and you know it.If it fails in any way,it's your fault! Also the guys at Spyderco (esp. Sal!) are some of the nicest,hard working,dedicated 'Knife Nuts' there are.They genuinely want to make the best knives they can.When you buy a fake you rob hard working honest people and reward fraud.If they want to sell copies they should not use the copyrighted Logos or patented design aspects.I speak as a sinner I bought one in the past and I got what I paid for a cheap inferior copy,and a feeling that I'd sold out myself and a fellow worker!
Congrats! ... As a role model, to young men everywhere, you should be touched and proud that you have introduced yet another impressionable minor child to the pleasures of smoking addictive and deadly substances. You are a boon to society.
phrankus2009 And you sir are a dumbass....every kid sneaks a smoke when they are young, or did mommy hold your hand everywhere you went...with social media, smoking is the last thing you should be worried about, ...what a fucking idiot..
But if you get a wavy grind from spyderco, and you call them and ask. They will make it right. Between that and me browsing bladeforums and just seeing the stand up philosophy of the company, they have earned my loyalty as to never buy a knock off. That said. 20$ really? I'd be lying if I didn't say I saw the temptation.
The reason this knife, and other knock-off knives, may be such good quality is that they may have been manufactured in the same factories as the "real" knives. Companies outsource manufacturing to China and in many cases help set up the factories. The factory managers will manufacture the branded goods during day shifts and meet their quota. Then, during night shifts they will manufacture the very same items "off the books" using the same tooling and perhaps even the same workers, and sell through channels other than the brand owner. So in essence, you are receiving the same product, but it's cheaper because you're not paying for the brand label markups. Not trying to excuse he factories for doing this as it's still illegal and unethical.
Honestly, if the knives they're counterfeiting are actually decent, I don't see why they wouldn't just put forth the effort and start their own knife company. If they're good enough to excel in looking like real name brand knives, they might excel in actually being a knife company.
SoimVan Probably easier to make a knockoff and sell it for people on budgets that want a certain high dollar knifes look vs making your own designs. The work is done for you because you already know what is sought after, just copy it and throw a lower price on it.
+SoimVan Thats the thing...They make legit knives and clones at the same factories
Me. Personally. When I was younger, everything I owned was fake. LOL Until I grew up and realized something. That kind of represents you. As a person. If you are buying fake things and passing them off as the real thing. That shows what kind of character you're made of. Now buying something that's fake and admitting "Hey it's a fake but I loved the design and couldn't afford the real thing." That's a different story. But for me, personally, I don't buy them.
I just subbed to your channel because it looks like you're really interactive with your viewers/subscribers! You remind me of Jeff a little bit lol.
If you did grow out of being fake, then good for you. Nothing wrong with cheaping out on good gear that works and you can afford.
I'd also like to add the, case of "Hey, it's fake, it's adequate, and I don't want to spend so much for the real thing"
voimyakomunizma
Well thank you! That's a HUGE compliment! LOL
orionrj16
Yea. Not at all. Just don't try to pass of fake stuff as the real thing. That's lame.
This is the reason I only buy from reputable dealers. Its crazy how close the fakes are to the real thing these days. If you didn't know what to look for most people wouldn't know the difference.
One thing to keep in mind though, these knockoffs were supposed to be sold in China as alternatives because we do not have easy access to legit brands. Knife collecting in China is technically illegal. Though no body really cares including the police, it is still extremely hard to purchase any legit foreign brand knives(or extremely expensive. A real Spyderco PM2 costs around $200 in China, most of the extra was used to pay for the "shipping and handling"), yet the local demand is big, and that's where knockoffs come to play.
So China churns out all these knives and they don't let their own people have them. This is why I buy USA stuff almost exclusively, when I can at least.
shoutout all my homies in Suzhou
time does go fast, jeff. Now that I think about it, I've been watching your channel since I was 15 (maybe even 14). I'm 22 now.
I don't know if I just didn't look hard enough but, where can I find the review of this knife you said you'd do?
The thing that really gives it away is the rounded edges on the handle. The squared corners is one of the first things I noticed when I got my PM2
One good reason to buy authentic stuff is that it supports the people who advance the state of the art, rather than supporting people who just try to sponge off other peoples' innovation and branding. If knockoffs were all that people bought, nothing would ever improve. We'd still be using sharp rocks to cut things.
It was pleasant and surprising to hear that this fan of your followed you from age 13 to 18.
But now that I think about it, I'm coming up on being a 5 year subscriber as well... time really does fly, especially when you're older.
Jeff you should get a load of fakes and the real ones , and get Vinnie to mix them up and see if you can spot the fake
Hey Jeff when is the review coming out? I'm curious!!
I would go out on a limb and say the box is real
Totally agree, yes its a real box
***** Real cardboard and paper
id say the box looks fake, from what i know on the real boxes the last number is really close "nearly touching" the lines. there also thicker. but again im no expert.
Who hasn't used a stripped screwdriver? One Snap-on screwdriver is worth more than a box full of stripped no names.
The fake spydie is scary. I think I'm gonna double check mine. Thanks for showing us the details on the fake.
One of the fastest ways to tell a fake is on the liners. If it's stonewashed, it's a fake. Spyderco only uses bead blasting on their liners.
i think this is so said,for us people who love our spyderco's and are willing to pay the extra to get the real deal,there should be a law banning copy's made from china,i don't support it and will never willingly buy one! or even show a unboxing of one of them.
It's one think cloning a design and calling it something else but out right copying the whole thing including the Manufacturer's name and etchings... This is outright stealing and robbing Spyderco!
We should avoid at all cost giving these thieves a stage to market their stolen goods.
bravo,well said.
+Blazin'Blades But alot of us buy them...mines lasted me 2 years...love all my clones
Blane Biondolillo: there is, just like there is a law that soliciters can't call you on your phone. Or that criminals can't lock up you computer and charge you a random to unlock it. To stop the ransom ware on your computer, all they have to do is go after the banksters that channel your money to the crooks. But it never happens because our government is corrupt.
I handled a fake Military at our local flea market.
This one was $50. It was smallish like a Paramilitary.
All of my Spydees deploy smoothly out of the box. The fake one had a sticky blade.
The jimping was sloppy and the black paint was runny looking on the spine jimping and inside the pivot area. The lettering looked different and was stamped a little closer to the handle. The liner lock was made of a different looking material than the titanium on my Millie. The G-10 was a little cheaper looking, and a little more raised. Everything else was pretty convincing. At a quick glance it did look like a Para 2.
Jeff, where are your pipe tobacco preferences, if any, leaning these days? Have you sort of zeroed in on a certain style, i.e., Englishes, Balkans, VAs, VaPers? (I'm basically a straight VA and VaPer smoker with an occasional bowl of Penzance or G.L. Pease Westminster).
Hard to say anything about the materials used in that fake. Could shear, chip, bend easy. I guess it might make a good beater. Definitely let us know with a follow-up.
Finally, I would really appreciate you letting me know what you think of the CASE blade steels, both CV and SS. Been thinking of collecting a few, but if it is nothing beyond the quality of, say, a rough rider, I may just stick with better blade steels. I use everything I buy, so performance always trumps looks or pedigree.
Does something about the color or sheen of the blade looks a little off as well maybe?
the bug on the blade is too light in color
Sometimes even the legit ones have laser etching errors like this. I've experienced this on both spyderco and benchmade. But I assure you it doesn't mean they are fake that depends on the blade finish and what not. But yes atrention to detail is important
What knife did you use to open the letter? Looks really cool :)
Are the liners milled out?
I have a sog aegis which is garbage I got it from a hunting chain in Toronto. the lock does not work properly it untightens constantly, anyone know if its fake?
Hey jeff of all the youtubers, even nutn, you have been the most consistant on your channel. Everyone "takes a break" for a month or so, follows some tactical fad. Lookin back, you have grown (and shrunk) and changed, but are still true to your core. Always a gentleman and really cool. Keep up the amazing work. You are a man of many hobbies and i think that makes for a cool dude and youtuber. Iv prob learned more from you than i did in high school lol. Mostly because we where probably very similar in that fashion cheech!
As for the knife imediately i noticed the handle didnt have satin liners poping out. And on the real pm2 isnt the lanyard holl through the pocket clip? Also can you carry that for a bit and see if it takes an edge. If it does and the action can be KINDA worked in i would def buy for 20 bucks.
That looks very similar but the sound and action of the lock are not even close. Good video.
Any clue as to what steel it is yet?
i just bought a sage 1 and a squeak for 105 and 15 bucks on amazon and i'm afraid that the second one is fake although they're coming from the same seller.
and frankly i wouldn't really mind if it was fake since i could return it easily, but more that i'm not gonna tell if it is. any good advice? i've only held like 2-3 spydercos in my life. so i'm not an expert.
Thousands of young people think you are awesome. So do I. I love the effect you have on our American community, (and worldwide community, as I think of it). I will be 60 next year. You just continue to love yourself Jeff, strengths and weaknesses combined, enjoy your hobbies, wife, pets, and family, and we will all stay subscribed. Do your best, don't sweat it when you are not perfect (For real - I haven't loved everything you have posted). I love how you treat young people as real people who are important and valued. OK, gag... enough bromance. But you are Da Man.
You can see it in the non directional gimping
I have a spyderco CPM S30v replica ,used it yesterday for splicing wood for campfire and it worked fine...it also is 1/4 the price of the original Spyderco.
link please
It's not a fake. Fan was so obsessed with culterylover, fan sent him a real one for trollz.
Eric C it's a fake, the screws are a dead give away.
Some of the knockoffs are actually really good quality..
Good job!!! I liked.
Frederick Abel That aliexpress site has Microtech Halo V knives for $65-. Look remarkably like the real thing including the packaging.
Drumming Tee could you link the knives? I couldn't find any?
Personally these fakes don't bother me. I went and checked some out and I'm actually thinking about getting some, but I'm not going to try and tell people it's real. Most of the ones I'm looking at are ~$20 but are copies of $100+ knives. The only people that would buy the fakes can't afford the real deal so it's not really taking money from the genuine companies and it also lets me see if I like a design. Maybe it will encourage me to spend money on the real thing if I like it enough.
Hi Jeff I was about 11 when I started watching your vids I'm now 13 and still enjoy them just as much you make really cool vids keep up the good work
I had the "pleasure" of purchasing a fake PM as well, however this one is quite a bit closer to the original than mine...
Mine has a good grind, looking better than on this one, but it has a liner lock (!) instead of the original compression lock, the screws are with rounded heads, and has no jimping on top or bottom edge. It has all the proper markings and signatures, not unlike this one.
I doubt that the blade is really made of CPM S30V steel, but so far it's been holding an edge pretty well.
68Stan Are you sure you didn't get a Military? PM2 has 2 screws and compression lock...Miitary has 3 screws and liner lock.
you should see the microtech counterfeits, hard to tell if its fake.
Looking forward to how it holds up over time and some use. Thanks for the video as always! -Woody
Thx, CL. Unless you're broke, why buy junk? knives are tools and tools last a man's lifetime. If you work on cars or any skilled trade, you throw junk tools at the wall - they are repulsive to hold and when you think about it, a waste of resources. Can break or damage what you work on. No pride in craft.
I went to twisted4kstudios channel and he's pretty doggone good. Oh great video, as usual, Colonel.
The obvious things you can look out for in the KO is the letter that's included uses very glossy paper when the real deal uses regular paper. Also, the engraving on the blade is a lighter color when the real one is darker.
That is properly one of the best and most convincing fakes of anything I have ever saw, thanks for the pointers of what to look for. :)
the compression lock on the real one is much smoother and quicker. The logos are also darker, and on the real one you can tell the steel is great just by looking at it.
Dude, that website is ridiculous...I'm a guitar player and they have all sorts of tempting fakes...they also have fake medford knives, cold steel, etc...as well as some 5.11 tactical backpacks...all sorts of stuff. I really like that as someone with little income I can buy china made stuff, my reason I can't get into these is the brands! Why do they have to put the brands on! Feels way more wrong! lol, but it's all definitely interesting. I'll be interested in how this holds up.
I'm going to guess that it's an OEM that makes/made Spyderco stuff at some point and those are the ones that don't pass QA and don't qualify to get the Spyderco name on it. Check to see if it has the 'ding' (exact location changes per model, worth a look-up) of a faulty Spydie. Cheers.
I have that same fake, the pocket clip cannot be moved. No threads on the other 3 positions.
Seeing these Spyderco knockoffs get me worried that the Delica 4 FFG that I just got off of ebay might not be the real deal. I'm pretty new to Spyderco and I like the knife but how am I to know it's real?
Can you try reviewing a kershaw leek if you haven't yet done it?
My buddy had one open in his pocket with the safety on. 14 stitches
the spring in kershaw leek is not even that powerful. besides its spring assisted, it won't even activate unless you push it first. the spring doesnt have enough force to break the safety. so for the spring to activate something must have happened to cause the safety to break with is not the knife's fault
when you do a review of this fake knife can you grab a real one to compare them??
yes that is an important part of the review so people can see the differences
Thanks :)
+cutlerylover Do the fakes lie about what steel its made of ?
+SEPI AUSTIN Some do and some don't. I've seen some say the blade is D2 and its clearly not and some do advertise as 440c, 8cr13mov, and even S30v which is more believable since its lower grade steel. I wouldn't expect the best when it comes to fakes. Not saying some wont last for years but its hard to know what you really get.
+SEPI AUSTIN Its probably 8CR 13mov...but its still a great knife for what you pay for it....I have one and for $18 its a hell of a knife
we're can you find these for $20?
Guss snoring in the background LOL.
Any update/review?
Are these knockoffs showing up in U.S. retail stores or just on E-Bay?
What is a "safe" online retailer to buy from?
Not ebay, try bladehq prices and availability aren't always the best but they are a quality dealer with a great reputation and customer care.
Thanks JP!
...it looks like the spider on the clip is off-center a bit? almost to the edge & partially missing.
@9SS94Cr actually, PM2s were around that price here for a while too.
I just bought a regular military from cabalas and this video Has me looking at my knife so close! How do I know if its fake?!?! Would cabalas sell me a fake? I'm really concerned! The knife feels as solid as anything and the detail is really good. But that knife looks convincing too! I am like freaking out!
Kind of wild to see that 10 years later, Twisted4Kstudios has videos with 155,000 views regularly.
where can i buy that russ lock? how much?
300 dollahs
so i was gonna buy a tenacious on amazon but i dont know if they're real or not. theyre supposedly spyderco brand but made in china?
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I'm just here in 2020 watching this, and twisted4k has a legit youtube channel with 66k+ subs. Props to him!
I have one of these...pretty good for twenty bucks. The pocket clip screws stripped when I tried to tighten them. That has never happened with my actual spyderco's
$20? I paid more for my pocket clip. What type of aluminum is the blade made from?
+Toki52 Cheap metal. Possibly 440c
+Nothin2see The blade is the heart of the knife and you get what you pay for, the real thing is worth it.
+Toki52 You are right. I just bought another custom paramilitary 2 for $200. Thinking about buying another one with Elmax blade and swapping blades.
+Nothin2see They say it's heroin in the G10, also some unknown substance that improves knife buying skills.
+Toki52 oh I believe it.
Send to Spyderco see what they say about what they find wrong with it. Usually manufacturers get REALLY specific.
Are there any Clones or Knockoffs worth buying? or,,Similar products but less expensive than the Original. I understand that we pay for quality but we are also paying for originality. To me, Quality is Key! We are all looking for both inexpensive and quality products to make our lives easier and safer! Thx,,,
That knife you used to open the package looks a lot like a higonokami.
So buying the tenacious i feel like im being robbed by spyderco because there letting the Chinese build them and sell them to us and spyderco is making a profit on us lets think about that one??
Guys PLEASE stop buying these knives. Not only are they not as good as the real thing but every time you buy one your supporting the people who make these. And when good hardworking people order one and it comes in fake. That good hardworking man gets litteraly robbed. I have ordered one of these for 122.97$ on amazon and it's not hear yet, but you do not know the feeling of jusspt hoping the one you get is an authentic spyderco.
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luke117 reviews I hear you man. it makes me sick. se with oakley. what bugs me the st is people willingly buying fakes so they can look like they own the real thing. most enthusiasts of any kind can't afford the toys but they save up for it and make sacrifices.
Lucas LeGendre I'll buy 3 just so you can cry about it!!
You know the Chinese have families to feed also, they work hard...
The worst was when I bought a fake dragonfly salt and took it snorkeling. Worst. 50 bucks. Spent. Ever
hey what i found as well to check spyderco for fakes easy method is to check the trademarked hole there should be a sign of the high carbon steal so it has layers in the hole where in a fake there is a smooth surface
The easiest way to pick the fake box is the absence of the trademark "R", below the spider logo. There should be 2 "R"s on the front of the box, not 1.
Wow, crazy copy...i would almost not know without handling it crazy!!
im willing to bet these are made in the same factory as the tenacious etc
I doubt it. Spyderco likely exercises good enough quality control to make sure that doesn't happen.
MrOTBxTrains you've never owned a legit pm2 huh?
GOonTedgi i have a real one lmao. what made you think i dont have one
+MrOTBxTrains I order one about a this time last...
+Teo Biathlon You better think again...It turns out every factory set up for making knives made clones one time or another
life long knife lover and collector and have just found your channel in the past two days and I just subbed and already think I'm gonna be a fan!! thanks and God bless you good sir.
I see a lot of negativity toward Chinese knock off knives in the comments. I guess the quote "Imitation is the highest form of flattery" doesn't apply to cutlery clones. I wonder if attitudes would change if the knife was an unlicensed spyderco tenacious that was an exact copy for half the price of a licensed one. People might think that it serves them right for outsourcing American jobs. Companies that send their manufacturing jobs to china are at risk of having indistinguishable duplicates flood the market.
can someone please tell me where I can find a replica like this?
Maybe eBay
+Aidan E search for c81 knife on aliexpress
3:59, the logo on the clip is way off, near the edge of the clip.
Huh... Wonder if he would find any faults if someone sent in a real brand knife but told him it was fake...
I know some will probably hate me for this but i ordered a Fake Spyderco PITS, because i live in Germany and with our stupidly strict Knife Laws the PITS is the closest you get to a locking Folder. But i am not paying this extremely high Price Spyderco asks for. They really should make a budget Version of this knife, without Titanium Scales n Stuff to make it cheaper because some People like me do not have a second Option rn. I am 18 and still going to shool so there is no way i can spend around 400 Bucks on a Knife.
I didn't know spyderco was here in Golden. That's where I live! I'm gonna have to go find the warehouse I guess
I have a real PM2 and I admit I bought the 8$ fake from wish also, but only after I bought The real thing.. I bought it for a cheap junker knife I dont nessecarily care about loosing if I did, and to practice sharpening it so I dont ruin my good one.. yes i know the steels are not the same, so it wont be the same for sharpening. But that was my idea on it.
How is the fake from wish?
Are the liners skeletonized?
Justin fisher Yes...atleast they are on mine from aliexpress.
hey!! that's a klone! it doesn't have 6j9000 Steele and authentic brontosuarus bone scales!!! how DARE you try and defend yourself with that...
I have the same fake one. What a bummer.........
hey jeff, if your ever up in canada you can use some of cuban cigars, ttyl
i purchased off amazon a uk legal non locking spyderco and it came in a box like that one , i hope i got a real spyderco, im brand new to these type of knives and purchased spyderco because of its reputation, i forget how much i paid but it wasnt cheap also there is no play in it at all plus i picked one up at walmart for i think 46.00 in a sealed plastic but it just says spyderco on it there is no name otherwise and the metal its made of says 807 mov somthing like that , i just hope i didnt get a clone, could someone check out the non locking spyderco on amazon and let me know your thoughts on it , its the 1st one you see
Hello could you please tell me if you think this is a fake or not
Won't let me send a pic
Dam....that's too close for comfort...
You can always do a steel scratch test I got a clone on ebay that was supposed to be in zdp189 it was easily scratched by a cheap kitchen knife being in the mid 60s it shouldn't do that
One of the (many) problems with fakes/clones, IMO anyhow, is that they give legit Chinese mfgs. like Maxace, Rike, Reate, We Knife Co, etc. a bad name by association ... these guys put out a quality product, and they are not producing 'clones' - some may be "similar" in appearance to other knives, but they are not stamping blades with a Spydie logo and trying to pass them off as legit Spyderco products, for example. That's the big difference.
the handles are more rounded on that one than the real ones but from what i can see its pretty good looking for a fake
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Cool but what's that growling or snoring towards the end
he has a dog
It's very easy to see the attraction here,esp the 80+% of the knife for 20% of the cost aspect! BUT the knife you have is NOT what it claims to be,and you know it.If it fails in any way,it's your fault!
Also the guys at Spyderco (esp. Sal!) are some of the nicest,hard working,dedicated 'Knife Nuts' there are.They genuinely want to make the best knives they can.When you buy a fake you rob hard working honest people and reward fraud.If they want to sell copies they should not use the copyrighted Logos or patented design aspects.I speak as a sinner I bought one in the past and I got what I paid for a cheap inferior copy,and a feeling that I'd sold out myself and a fellow worker!
the edges on the handle are sanded way down, very different from the real thing.
Coast also makes a decent Spderco knock off for $6!
Congrats! ... As a role model, to young men everywhere, you should be touched and proud that you have introduced yet another impressionable minor child to the pleasures of smoking addictive and deadly substances. You are a boon to society.
phrankus2009 And you sir are a dumbass....every kid sneaks a smoke when they are young, or did mommy hold your hand everywhere you went...with social media, smoking is the last thing you should be worried about, ...what a fucking idiot..
well the knife is much more sloppily built then the real deal
But if you get a wavy grind from spyderco, and you call them and ask. They will make it right. Between that and me browsing bladeforums and just seeing the stand up philosophy of the company, they have earned my loyalty as to never buy a knock off. That said. 20$ really? I'd be lying if I didn't say I saw the temptation.
Speaking of fakes...I have a Chinese Brous Blades Reloader coming in from AliExpress, will do review...
The reason this knife, and other knock-off knives, may be such good quality is that they may have been manufactured in the same factories as the "real" knives. Companies outsource manufacturing to China and in many cases help set up the factories. The factory managers will manufacture the branded goods during day shifts and meet their quota. Then, during night shifts they will manufacture the very same items "off the books" using the same tooling and perhaps even the same workers, and sell through channels other than the brand owner.
So in essence, you are receiving the same product, but it's cheaper because you're not paying for the brand label markups. Not trying to excuse he factories for doing this as it's still illegal and unethical.
Whoa...that's so spot on. O_O Little bit disgusting.