The terrain models you've showed in Revit are really impressive. I didn't know how much details u can put on a Revit draw. I'm trying to learn this software but it's tricky. Thanks for the video!
Autodesk introduced TopoSolids (3D solid representations of topographies) in Revit 2024 - providing an exciting base for landscape professionals moving forward.
Having worked with Revit in architecture for over 20 years, I am finally excited to be working with LAs to get them on board. Revit is finally catching up and the external tools that weren't available even 2 years ago are making it truly functional for landscape architecture!
I've been taking AutoCad in college, and it's just very frustrating, coming from manual drafting. I've started learning Revit. I wish I could talk to someone like you. Do I really need to get good at AutoCad first? Can you just begin with Revit?...
I think you've hit the nail on the head with this video. Revit does present a lot of room to grow in the future and new opportunities. Also using it when it makes sense for the project.
Useful video attempting to compare AutoCAD vs Revit (CAD vs BIM) based on capabilities, functionality, workflow & room to grow ☺. There is no doubt that most landscape professionals using Revit do so mainly because of the need to collaborate in the same environment as other disciplines (architectural) &/or because a particular project specifically requires it. However, looking at the wider benefits of a move from AutoCAD to Revit provides a clearer direction... > Accuracy (in the real world, 3D is always better than 2D) > Efficiency (change a 'model' component and ALL views are modified automatically) > New opportunities (ability to analyse model to answer bigger questions).
I’m a landscape architect who used AutoCAD for over 20 years before switching to BIM. Vectorworks is the answer for Landscape Architects, not Revit. Autodesk has ignored our profession for the entirety of my career, why would I use their AEC software for my LA projects when there is a better choice?
@@DesignItGreen There's no hate here. Vectorworks has been the go to Landscape Architecture software for over two decades. It's the choice of some of the world's leading landscape and architecture firms. Your narrative of people not using it is simply not true. You do harm to the LA community by spreading such misinformation.
Quite frankly its the cost of the software that is the prohibitive element here. We would happily take the leap into it but the cost of providing revit to the staff that would need it is just too high. Hence we have to keep bimbling along in 2d cad. Furthermore, how are you supposed to start learning it if you can't afford it!
I certainly don’t disagree on that and is a valid point. In general the cost of programs has gotten out of hand. Especially considering you need to have multiple programs for drafting, presentation, and visualization
I'm old enough (yikes!) to have been on the front line of the industry transitioning from manual drafting to CAD back in the 80's and early 90's. Unfortunately it took Landscape Architects almost a decade to catch up to their cousins in Engineering and Architecture. Professionally I think it set us back - reinforcing the stereotype of being earthy landscapers more than a technical craft. In terms of BIM/Revit don't you think it will ultimately come down to the same thing it always does? Time and Money. Do clients have a NEED to spend 25% more on LA fees for us to build BIM models? Do they want another month or two added to the schedule? Outside of large public work projects I don't see it yet, but accept that could change.
Once you convert to a BIM process, the documentation process accelerates and you end up saving time over the life of the project, just like CAD accelerated the drawing and detailing process. Like any new skill, it takes some time to learn like the transition from the boards to CAD. This one's easier though because people generally know how to use computers these days :). I use BIM for projects large and small because it's faster overall and results in a better set of construction drawings later in the process.
@@casperNsuzy Good info. I guess I'm more skeptical about the cost associated with converting a team to BIM...both in training, but also software costs, etc. But I admittedly don't know as I haven't done it.
@@timdaugherty7612 I've transitioned a few teams from AutoCAD to Vectorworks and have had very good results. In the case of Vectorworks, it replaced AutoCAD and is less expensive than either AutoCAD or Revit. Plus, they have a comprehensive and free training platform that can get people up to speed at their own pace. Revit can get exceptionally expensive when you factor in having to build families from scratch or purchasing add on software to give it basic landscape functionality. Anyhow, it takes 6-9 months to transition teams in my experience, unless they already have experience with the chosen software.
Ugh I'm a 2022' architect 😢graduate and I've hated revit all those 5 years during Uni, and still do to this day, It's such an "anti-design" and so an "engineer" software I hate it so much 😭 idk why but hand sketching, post production and other combos like you do in your channel (loveee morpholio) makes everything feel more human~thought~sensible~artsy💫 I've refused for so long to include Revit in my design process but lately seems like I've got no choice but to do so. :( I'm scared it may take away what I love about my career and turn it into punishment
It would be great if Revit improved for the benefit of the landscape profession@@DesignItGreenbut clearly the main direction is towards architects. CloudScapes remains focused on delivering tools for the landscape profession (for CAD + Revit)... until such time as Autodesk changes direction ☺. Clearly the more conversation about what the landscape sector requires the better ☺
Hi im looking into adding Samsung tablet into my work flow, but im having a difficult time finding apps that work well for landscape architecture under the android system, like morpholio trace for Ipad. Do you know of such apps like morpholio trace that works with Samsung tablet?
Hi! I got an interesting question, but have nobody to ask. Do landscape architects use some regulations and normative documents in planning and landscaping ( for example, sanitary ruptures, a certain distance between playground and car parking, norms of ground embankment) in other countries (I`m not from USA) and what is it (What kind of norms and its name), if it`s not a secret. I`ll be glad, if you answer.
There are general standards for design that come from how materials and products perform. ASTM STANDARDS. There are also building codes for fire , safety, sanitary, stormwater, etc at federal and state levels. There are also local regulations and codes. There is also knowledge based on experience, primarily from studying how things fail. I recommend refraining your question. Looking for one specific answer to something that is immeasurably vast as a topic is self deceiving and could lead you to make some pretty costly mistakes, both financially and with human health safety and welfare. In short...there's no secret or one manual.
The terrain models you've showed in Revit are really impressive. I didn't know how much details u can put on a Revit draw. I'm trying to learn this software but it's tricky. Thanks for the video!
Sure can! Hardly know any revit myself! but trying to get more into BIM software
Check out Environment for Revit. They have a great plug in for landscape and site design and their TH-cam channel has a bunch of tutorials :)
Autodesk introduced TopoSolids (3D solid representations of topographies) in Revit 2024 - providing an exciting base for landscape professionals moving forward.
Having worked with Revit in architecture for over 20 years, I am finally excited to be working with LAs to get them on board. Revit is finally catching up and the external tools that weren't available even 2 years ago are making it truly functional for landscape architecture!
Slowly but surely
I've been taking AutoCad in college, and it's just very frustrating, coming from manual drafting. I've started learning Revit. I wish I could talk to someone like you. Do I really need to get good at AutoCad first? Can you just begin with Revit?...
I think you've hit the nail on the head with this video. Revit does present a lot of room to grow in the future and new opportunities. Also using it when it makes sense for the project.
Thank you! I think it's a great place for conversation. revit might not be the answer, but BIM software certainly is in my opinion
Useful video attempting to compare AutoCAD vs Revit (CAD vs BIM) based on capabilities, functionality, workflow & room to grow ☺. There is no doubt that most landscape professionals using Revit do so mainly because of the need to collaborate in the same environment as other disciplines (architectural) &/or because a particular project specifically requires it. However, looking at the wider benefits of a move from AutoCAD to Revit provides a clearer direction...
> Accuracy (in the real world, 3D is always better than 2D)
> Efficiency (change a 'model' component and ALL views are modified automatically)
> New opportunities (ability to analyse model to answer bigger questions).
I agree, just need to get more people on board
I’m a landscape architect who used AutoCAD for over 20 years before switching to BIM. Vectorworks is the answer for Landscape Architects, not Revit. Autodesk has ignored our profession for the entirety of my career, why would I use their AEC software for my LA projects when there is a better choice?
Haha! I love the hate… I too love vectorworks but not that many people know/use it
@@DesignItGreen There's no hate here. Vectorworks has been the go to Landscape Architecture software for over two decades. It's the choice of some of the world's leading landscape and architecture firms. Your narrative of people not using it is simply not true. You do harm to the LA community by spreading such misinformation.
Quite frankly its the cost of the software that is the prohibitive element here. We would happily take the leap into it but the cost of providing revit to the staff that would need it is just too high. Hence we have to keep bimbling along in 2d cad. Furthermore, how are you supposed to start learning it if you can't afford it!
I certainly don’t disagree on that and is a valid point. In general the cost of programs has gotten out of hand. Especially considering you need to have multiple programs for drafting, presentation, and visualization
I'm old enough (yikes!) to have been on the front line of the industry transitioning from manual drafting to CAD back in the 80's and early 90's. Unfortunately it took Landscape Architects almost a decade to catch up to their cousins in Engineering and Architecture. Professionally I think it set us back - reinforcing the stereotype of being earthy landscapers more than a technical craft.
In terms of BIM/Revit don't you think it will ultimately come down to the same thing it always does? Time and Money. Do clients have a NEED to spend 25% more on LA fees for us to build BIM models? Do they want another month or two added to the schedule? Outside of large public work projects I don't see it yet, but accept that could change.
Once you convert to a BIM process, the documentation process accelerates and you end up saving time over the life of the project, just like CAD accelerated the drawing and detailing process. Like any new skill, it takes some time to learn like the transition from the boards to CAD. This one's easier though because people generally know how to use computers these days :). I use BIM for projects large and small because it's faster overall and results in a better set of construction drawings later in the process.
@@casperNsuzy Good info. I guess I'm more skeptical about the cost associated with converting a team to BIM...both in training, but also software costs, etc. But I admittedly don't know as I haven't done it.
@@timdaugherty7612 I've transitioned a few teams from AutoCAD to Vectorworks and have had very good results. In the case of Vectorworks, it replaced AutoCAD and is less expensive than either AutoCAD or Revit. Plus, they have a comprehensive and free training platform that can get people up to speed at their own pace. Revit can get exceptionally expensive when you factor in having to build families from scratch or purchasing add on software to give it basic landscape functionality. Anyhow, it takes 6-9 months to transition teams in my experience, unless they already have experience with the chosen software.
I agree with all the points! Seems like a really intensive hurdle to climb but something that we need to do sooner rather than later
Ugh I'm a 2022' architect 😢graduate and I've hated revit all those 5 years during Uni, and still do to this day, It's such an "anti-design" and so an "engineer" software I hate it so much 😭 idk why but hand sketching, post production and other combos like you do in your channel (loveee morpholio) makes everything feel more human~thought~sensible~artsy💫 I've refused for so long to include Revit in my design process but lately seems like I've got no choice but to do so. :( I'm scared it may take away what I love about my career and turn it into punishment
I agree! Really hope vectorworks takes a strong hold in landscape architecture
Revit needs to up their game. The issue is the limits of revit are bad for city size proyects.
I definitely think revit needs to keep improving
Check out Environment for Revit. They have a great plug in for landscape and site design and their TH-cam channel has a bunch of tutorials :)
It would be great if Revit improved for the benefit of the landscape profession@@DesignItGreenbut clearly the main direction is towards architects. CloudScapes remains focused on delivering tools for the landscape profession (for CAD + Revit)... until such time as Autodesk changes direction ☺. Clearly the more conversation about what the landscape sector requires the better ☺
This is not autocad architecture vs Revit.
Doing a comparison with AutoCAD standard is not a good comparison.
Hi im looking into adding Samsung tablet into my work flow, but im having a difficult time finding apps that work well for landscape architecture under the android system, like morpholio trace for Ipad. Do you know of such apps like morpholio trace that works with Samsung tablet?
I think sketchbook is the best bet I believe for samsung. I wish morpholio would go cross platform
Hi!
I got an interesting question, but have nobody to ask. Do landscape architects use some regulations and normative documents in planning and landscaping ( for example, sanitary ruptures, a certain distance between playground and car parking, norms of ground embankment) in other countries (I`m not from USA) and what is it (What kind of norms and its name), if it`s not a secret.
I`ll be glad, if you answer.
The short answer is yes. There are LOTS of documentation with regulations and so forth for all aspects of design
@@DesignItGreen what is it called, if it's not a secret?
There are general standards for design that come from how materials and products perform. ASTM STANDARDS. There are also building codes for fire , safety, sanitary, stormwater, etc at federal and state levels. There are also local regulations and codes. There is also knowledge based on experience, primarily from studying how things fail. I recommend refraining your question. Looking for one specific answer to something that is immeasurably vast as a topic is self deceiving and could lead you to make some pretty costly mistakes, both financially and with human health safety and welfare. In short...there's no secret or one manual.
Thank you for your answer!@@CR-rc5ch
You should switch to Vectorworks!
I love using Vectorworks… but haven’t come across a single arch firm using it
thanks for this information .i love vectorworks but the license is very expensive @@DesignItGreen
Am I missing something, have young Landscape Architects really been using cad and designing in 2D ??? Vectorworks has everything seen here and more!
super no.1
Team AutoCAD?