I bought this exact reflection filter and it works wonders in my bedroom studio. I have wood floors and the room is huge with no acoustic foam anywhere and I would definitely recommend it to anyone with the same type of workspace.
These things work. People who use the microphone improperly tend to change their mic'ing behaviour when using one and often times even succumb to Placebo. :)
Nice to see someone actually debunking these things. Also, the reflection filter isn't the only thing not working, that pop filter is still letting a lot of bursts thru to the mic capsule. Most of them do. They're definitely better than nothing, but nowhere near as good as distance and technique. From an audio engineer and VO artist 25 years in the game: there's no reason to point your mouth directly at the mic capsule, and in fact most people project sound more out of one side of their mouth than they do the front or the other side. Watch yourself talk on video and you'll see your mouth habitually curving and pulling off to one side, that's where the vowels and resonance go. Point THAT side of your mouth at the mic by standing where you normally do but pointing your nose 3-5" to the side of the mic, and your P's and F's and Ess's will sail past the capsule while the body of your voice hits the capsule beautifully.
Thanks for that advice I will definitely use it for my voice acting I'm a newbie so getting all of the help I can is important at this stage. I definitely have issues with F's, lol
Thanks for the advice. This makes a lot of sense, and I've sort of been doing some version of this on some of the louder vocals for a lot of years. Maybe now I can start actually making it work and knowing why it does. Cheers!
Actually the truth is somewhere in the middle. The ROOM needs some minimal treatment. This is time and money. Room treatment combined with some type of shield can yield better results. If you rely on just buying a shield, you will be disappointed. Just as if you rely on one persons youtube channel to answer all you question on a subject... you will be disappointed.
Excellent analysis. My dad gifted me with one a few years ago. I tried it and was disappointed with how it solved zero issues with my recording. Recording in my closet with blankets on my walls has been a bigger improvement than the reflection filter
I was also skeptical but I bought one for around 100$, and the improvement is really noticeable!!! so you can talk theoretically as much as you want - but in the practical level, it DOES make a difference!
He's not "talking theoretically", he's demonstrating practical. If you spent $100 on one and it did anything, you must have had it in a racquet ball court.
@@reekrodriqguez6552 They're assuming that he's talked himself into thinking it wasn't a bad & expensive purchase bc people don't like feeling dumb. But sound situations are different for everyone, the shape of the room, kind of mic, position in the room, materials in the walls, the source being captured... It's too varied to ever have definitive answers.
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In my experience this worked like a charm. I did multiple recordings with ans without and the difference was significant. My recording studio, before installing the panels, it was very reverbish, and when I tried the SE it did made a huge difference.
do you record with your face near mic as his in the video? I'm just wondering if it would work if I install in next to my drop down mic so my voice would have some distance from the microphone. Table stand mic kind of block my gaming view, thanks!
I thought he was right at first, but I got the same reflection filter and realized I just had the filter and mic at the wrong angle. I experimented with the angle of the filter and mic and virtually all of the reverb I was getting from my living/dining room is GONE. If you are rapping or singing at home, this is what this was designed for and it will give you more of a studio type sound. Its definitely worth trying if you are serious and ocd about your sound, but you can't just "throw" it onto your stand, lol you have to think it through and position it correctly just like all your other equipment.
Kendall Madison I tested on my brothers and the sound is muffled and sounds really dual in a bad way. I think its better then no type of treatment at all but if you have padding and what not this hurts you.
Kendall Madison so disagree. I'm wearing apple lightening pods listening to this video and heard reverbation literally throughout the entire video. You have to have a trained ear to tell, but it's always there with those ugly things.
If you can't hear the difference, then you don't need one :). It depends on the frequency content/volume of your source as well as your room. It also depends on what surface you are facing. Sometimes the difference is very small...sometimes not. It definitely reduces room ambient noise (record the quiet room with and without to check it). It smooths out high and and high mid frequencies that bounce back into the mic. I have tested it in treated rooms with a bunch of different sources. If your mic is set too deep into the filter, it will add low mids. So, not a room silencer. It is a room tamer. Another to know is that it depends on your mic choice. Large Condenser mics pick up low frequencies from off axis sources. The bleed around the mic is fatter.... The Filter lowers that significantly.
I ware a large mexican hat with my kids soft toys hanging round the rim when I record vocals. This breaks up room reflexions from behind me really well. I wish I could patent the idea.!!!
You shouldn't listen to everyone because he is definitely not accurate . He is showing how not to use it. And his examples of what it's made to do is also "inaccurate" but to each it's on. And remember Even a treated room doesn't block sound from getting in the room only stops sound vibration from bouncing by absorbing it.
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The reflection filter helps to absorb the sound of your voice to prevent your voice from bouncing around the room but it isn't intended to be the sole solution. Put it in proximity to a wall directly behind you where you hang a large piece of carpet or a comforter. Or have a standup recording baffle behind you as well. You can also treat the room to kill reflections in conjunction with a reflection filter.
I think these shields are effective and helpful when used strategically. The shield doesn't help in this video because the reflections are mostly coming from that massive corridor behind you. I bet you would get better results if you turned your whole set up so the off axis point of the mic was aimed at the corridor and then you drew some curtains on the windows on your sides.
Interesting. For what it's worth, in my experience, this small booth has been the single most noticeable and worth while improvement to my set up. A world of difference and something I'd not hesitate to recommend to anyone wanting to record some vocals for music (which is what I'm using my set up for).
your setup is wrong if something with no mass is improving the sound of a small booth with little real acoustic treatment mr small booth lots of foam guy how about you plz learn of deversion of sound and waves
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@@seerking a fraction of a cost but requires certain skills and knowledge which, despite how easy those are, still needs time and effort invested. Not everyone has the know-how or even the inclination to do that.
There's many other factors in dealing with room acoustics during recording. Unless you're in a completely isolated studio booth, you're always gonna deal with some level of unneeded noise. A lot of commercially released projects in the past 10 years were recorded in tour buses, hotel rooms, bedrooms, etc. Jay and Kanye's Watch The Throne album was mostly recorded in a hotel, and Erykah Badu's New Amerykah album was recorded at her home and in a studio with the monitors playing in the background. A good producer, engineer and mixer can find ways to deal with noise and room acoustics. You'd have to pack the room and keep it as isolated as possible. Gates/limiters/compressors can deal with the remaining noise in your mix. As far as the reflection filters go, there's better ones than the one in the video (I have one that came in a bundle pack for $100)... but they definitely help in getting rid of a great deal of noise. It's not what you use, but how you use it.
You can get a nice-looking, wooden room divider for $100 to $150 and hang acoustic foam panels on one side. Treat an empty corner of your room with acoustic foam panels too (or something more decorative that is still thick and soft), and now you have a nice little sound booth that is hidden by the decorative side of the room divider and can be moved to create more space. Make sure the room divider is tall enough for you. Most are 5-and-a-half feet tall, but plenty are 6-feet tall. The "empty corner" could also be an open bedroom wall closet.
I mostly agree. In a multitrack band environment, it would provide a little protection from other instrument bleed. Also, use it facing into the room with your closet behind you. Might do something.
If there's a wall in front of you then it will prevent the sound from bouncing behind you and back to the front of the mic. So it is better than nothing at all in an untreated room.
Only if your wall is made of foam, otherwise that wall will quickly bounce the sound from your mouth back into the mic (very bad) and also back into the room where it'll scatter in all directions and eventually come back into the mic, blurred and reverbed from all the trips. Generally speaking, you want mics as far from any hard, reflective boundary or surface as possible.
@@TheHouseofKushTV- He means that the mini sound booth reduces the sound level reaching the wall ahead of you, and therefore less sound gets to bounce back past you and reflect back again to your mic off the the wall behind you. I reckon that's true, and similar to the previous technique with the clothing.
Exactly right, but not just walls...in the real world a lot of people are at desks or near computers, mixers, monitors, etc...and while everyone is so focused on walls, they forget that any large surface is reflective.
Just a note that if you are doing voiceover work, this is probably true. If you are projecting and singing loudly, this is not true at all. This is an extremely effective filter. While I like this channel for some review data, note that a lot of these scenarios are specific to voiceover work and don't hold true if you are using these for recording amps/singing. That being said i love the C100s :)
The one good thing about these filters is that when you sing, (especially belting), it stops your voice hitting the wall in front of you, bounce back to behind you, then back into the most sensitive side of your mic. Used in conjunction with other foam I think it is quite useful. Of course, for the $$$, a DIY vocal booth isn't that hard to make, which will do the trick better overall.
hey! im trying to figure out if i should get a 5 panel reflection filter/isolation booth because i sing alot of belted pop songs and my room is not treated in any way. if i want lesser reflections should i record with my back to a wall and have my isolation shield in front of me?
I have quite different experience with that one. Mine is very cheap and deeper, made out of foam only and slightly thicker. I am also putting a towel over the top and you can deffinetly hear the difference with and without it. Also since you are standing in front of the mike, your head and body is mitigating some front reflection too. I think that for home setup this is useful piece of gear and actually make your takes better. It`s not matching the high end studio acoustic treatment, but better than nothing in my opinion
Man, your videos are great and I don't know why you don't have more views! Straight to the point, well explained, great stuff. And 3:10 was absolutely hilarious. Good work.
It actually can help (in theory) as it absorbs a lot of soundwaves of your voice, preventing them from bouncing off the walls in front of you, which would otherwise then bounce off the walls behind you into the sensitive part of the microphone. Would've liked a better side-to-side comparison than you did now.
You do realize how sound works right? Before the microphone even captures your voice the sound wave has to first bounce off the wall in front of you, then it will move to the wall behind you, and finally it reaches the mic on the travel back from the wall behind you back to the front of you. So (in theory) if this is how sound works. Putting a deflection on the front will do nothing for the reflections that are caught from the wall behind you during the soundwave's travel. You have to treat what is in front of you and behind you(acoustically treat) in order to even get any real results. This is also why condenser microphones have a designated front and back of the micrphone, because sound isn't as simple as you'd think. So yes, these shields are quite pointless alone.
@@MorbydManic I don't agree with you. Sound waves created by your vocal chords get picked up directly by your microphone. Those soundwaves bouncing off the walls are exactly the things you want to eliminate from being able to be picked up by the microphone. This is why you want something like this to absorb the soundwaves after they reached the microphone. And yes indeed, most condenser mics only pick up audio from one side, the side you talk in.
My studio set up is in a bedroom, which is a 12x12 box, and very bad for recording. I bought an Auralex Roominator Kit about ten years ago. The newer ones look like they absorbs better then the kit I have. The kit removed the slap back and a few of the upper and lower reflections, but I still had unwanted a lot of low and upper mid frequency build up. During the mixing stage I used to have to do a lot of surgical EQ cutting. For years I had to deal with this, until I bought the same filter he is demoing about two years ago. It worked out great for vocals and just amazing for micing up my guitar cabinet. Now I do very little EQ cutting, thus retaining the source sound. The room he is recording in doesn’t really sound bad. No slap back, not bassy, but with a little bit of airy highs from the back wall. When he stands behind the filter it removed little bit of the upper frequencies and the airiness in the room. Understand that your room needs may not be the same as his room needs, Every room is different. Some rooms need more dispersion, while others need more absorption or both. This filter helped with my problems. Is it perfect no, but my results are a hell of a lot better then what I had before...plus its portable. :)
I was ready to buy one of those to minimise the reflection on the room and you saved me !!! You are so right on anything !!! We needed somebody to clear that for us !!! thank you so much !!!
actually your voice sounds way better with the SE Reflection Filter... your room is very reverberant.... so regardless you should treat your room and THEN use a reflection Filter.
I really appreciate you taking the time to demonstrate the ins and outs of this device. I'm a new voice over artist and I invested into a portable booth that is 4 x 4 and is made up of black PVC pipe and what looks like moving pads. It seems like it does a great job of absorbing all the sound all around me but after seeing those devices I often wondered if maybe I should have invested into something a little smaller that would get the same job done. Now after watching your video I realized that that would not have been a great investment after all.
record in the smallest room in your house. make sure it's carpet. bedrooms can be great because your bed will eat up most of the echo/reverb. don't put your pop guard as close as he does, because you can still hear it popping. some mics, even cheap ones, won't pick up as much echo as others, so shop around. keep your damn door closed. clean up your audio when editing, like breathing, sniffs, mouth sounds etc. just some basic tips to get you started.
Thank you so much for explaining this in a simple way. I have the equipment and have a huge learning curve. I wish I would have paid more attention in the studio!
I purchased this along with the a Stedman pro pop filter in front of my mic and it is Amazing. My studio in a basement with cement walls and floor and it sounds great. So pop filters do work wonders for those that can’t afford to sound proof a room with foam and it works great.
Ohhhh that closet trick was actually taught in my cinema course :) This video presentation was very VERY helpful and you've just saved me some serious $$$ I'm actually considering a complete sound booth and that's probably embarrassing overkill as I don't have your skills or voice quality. Thumbs UP and I wish you all the best! For at least the next ten minutes, you're my vocal hero!
This guy Mike has a very good voice. I just found his channel today, and the information he gives is very good. I'll be returning for more information going forward!
I have one for my bedroom which is long & rectangular & instead of in a stand it sits on my desk & keeps the bass build up from the corners from booming back at me. I just had to make sure the position was right.
So I am looking at this from another angle... my theory is these shields are absorbing your vocal from getting out into the room . Thus cutting down on the reverb the room can generate. Not cutting back reflections trying to get into the mic after bouncing around the room. If that were the case would not the foam be on the outside of the unit also? And why do most manufacturers use a metal support? Would that not help waves bounce around the room even more? I had one "VO booth" that were a loud talent caused the room to just bounce the waves around. I bought one of these and it made a big difference. Discussion begins now...
Thanks for your feedback, I was trying to avoid buying large roxul panels around my room which I have reasons for... but after watching your video here, I think there's really no way around it
Yabbut, "the sensitive side of the mic" is different for different mics. Some mics are just as sensitive on the back side as on the front (figure-8 polar pattern).
I made my own isolation box just like you showed - paid about 20 bucks from Walmart for a bin and foam bedding topper. Works pretty well - reading copy is a bit of an issue but I put it on my desk and have a monitor beside it. Also just recently added NVIDIA Broadcast which eliminates other noises - works amazingly. I can talk and my son can play music right beside me and you can't hear the music on the recording - like magic.
Solution: Heavy 'moving blankets' really cheap of Amazon (or expensive Professional acoustic blankets) place one on the floor, one behind and in front I like these because it's a portable collapsible solution. For a fixed studio solution buy some rockwool slabs and put them in wooden frames covered with a moderately 'loose' knit fabric. It's important that the fabric weave/knit is loose enough to allow the sound to enter and get absorbed by the rockwool. A fabric with too tight a knit will actually reflect the sound and stop the panel from working. These panels are remarkably effective and work best when fixed above your head out of shot. and then on the back wall behind you as you talk into the mic and then a couple out of shot on the side walls. A thick deep pile carpet also is very effective providing it covers wall to wall. 😉
I made a cheap ass vocal booth with PVC pipe. Covered it in moving blankets. It sounds amazing. Was wondering if adding a reflection filter would help. Probably better to buy foam for inside the booth. Moving blankets are clutch though.
I have to disagree on this one. I use a Primacoustic Voxguard with a Neumann U47 Fet and it works perfectly. I've used it on EVERY one of my uploads on my TH-cam channel. I didn't like the way the Se Reflexion filter used in this video sounded. It bounced too much sound around.I think it's because of the material they used during construction.It was kinda harsh. My mic is cardioid only, and I could still hear reflections off the Se like it was an omni. PLUS, the Primacoustic costs HALF the price of the SE Reflexion Filter Pro.
Of course it helps out a much,thanks boy,have been discussing myself what gonna be useful way,you saved me a lot of bucks,greatings from East Africa Tanzania🇹🇿
I don't understand. You say that one of the reasons it's not good is because it doesn't protect the sound reflecting behind you, but in your video about creating a voice booth, you talk into the closet, but you don't have anything to absorb the sound behind you. So which side should you prioritize in absorbing reflections?
But it's still in front of him, even though the most sensitive part of the microphone gets reflections from behind him, right? So shouldn't he speak with the closet to his back, instead?
See, I've always pondered this. There's a video of Amy Winehouse recording with Mark Ronson and she has her back to a mattress (they're also above her). So.... Wouldn't it be best to use the filter in front and the dampening behind?... Confusing.
Majority of the reflections coming from behind in the room he's talking in throughout the video are from the sound hitting the floor, ceiling, and walls behind the mic and then reflecting off the walls behind him. In the closet, all of these waves are heavily dampened soon after they leave his mouth.
I use one of those, but I made a vocal booth of blankets and foam and that’s just inside of the vocal booth attached to my microphone stand so I thought the same thing that didn’t do much so that’s why I made a vocal booth of blankets and actually does a good job
DezBusta that sucks bro. I'm not far enough in my animating to start recording anything yet, so honestly I don't even know if what I have will work for me or not. I'm trying to do better about looking for tutorials, or reviews before buying things now.
You talk too much man you're not Eddie Kramer just get to the point we already know the answer we're just watching to see if you know what you're talking about
If I talk into the mic, the panel keeps my voice around the mic, thus avoiding my voice to go around the room and come back into the mic as reverb. The panel's job is to avoid my voice to spread, that's the reason why it is in front of me speaking. It is not a barrier against sounds coming from around, it is a levee to contain the sound I am recording.
I Like the closet idea, thanks so much. although My wife wasn’t thrilled when I converted her walk in closet into a drum booth. With clothing hanging on 3 walls the sound was amazing. I may also use this idea on location shoot, bad room sound get the wardrobe person to roll a rack from wardrobe onto the set. Tho hanging clothes sound absorber such an effective idea.
Thank you, your video is very informative and helped me trmendosly. I am seting up my area so I can record audio books. Your video answered many of my questions, I am so happy to have found your video.
These things work wonders in the right scenario. In your example you are standing in the middle of a large empty room... In my scenario, I am at a desk with a 32" monitor, mixer and studio monitors behind the mic. That makes a lot of nearby reflective surfaces, and putting one of these shields behind the mic did worlds of good. I know this video is a bit old, but there are really good shields for like $40 now...which costs less and is more effective than covering the walls with acoustic treatment if your main issue is nearby reflective fixtures or walls.
I have seen a video in which a person takes it to the bathroom and recorded his vocals and it made a huge huge difference,.May be not that noticeable in the room..
He might have had his microphone in an omnidirectional magnetic pattern, then a filter like that would reduce the noise by half. But on a cardioid configuration, the microphone already reduces those areas anyway.
Great points. So through Pro Audio journey I have definitely learned to hear those sounds. In the beginning I couldn’t hear the differences. You’re right mics don’t pick up from the back side where the filter is place. You can immediately tell. Good video man.
4:09 isn’t this unfair? Your snapping is projecting frequency in all directions vs your projecting your waves into the shield. Moreover, when you’re talking dead center of the shield, it’s meant to mitigate the spread. It’s far from perfect, but off center speaking and snapping away from the core of the shield are far from what it’s supposed to treat. Though without levels on screen, it’s sheer speculation on my end! It’s an old video tho I’ve seen your latest stuff. Just in the fence about these shields still
Also he should be further back but hey we like what we like I personally just bought one and I live in a trailer and it was exactly what I need the vocals I've been able to produce with it is a big step up
@@KNGxARK I ended up getting one too haha. The levels when I tested them in a controlled environment weren’t different enough to warrant buying on their own but psychologically I did notice my mic technique was WAY better so it actually ended making a difference you can hear. But not functionally haha so in a weird way, it does work for me. We like what we like, as you correctly said.
I've been using my unfinished laundry room to record, the cement floor absorbs any vibrations, the exposed insulation absorbs sound, and there are no windows. I think I'll just leave it like that.
thank you ! Just saved me money, time breaking down the cardboard box and recycling, and a heck of a lot of headache and space trying to get this thing to work.
Well, no. I have a 25 X 35 foot room. I'm behind the mic and siting in an alcove, talking into the room which is all tricked out with absorption and diffusion. It's a great space in which to record VO.
Thank you for giving people honest advice about why Portable vocal booths / foam eyeballs / etc., do NOT replace actual acoustic treatment, and many times cost 3-4x the price of normal fiberglass absorbers that DO actually work.
I should have watched this video before I bought mine! I didn’t think it was working which is why I ended up here! LOL. I don’t notice it helping my recordings at all in an untreated room.
Solid knowledge! Thank you man! I made one out of wood and bed foam and it kinda works but, as your video showed, my problem is the sound reflecting back in to the mic from behind.
There are other reflection filters that can bend and surround the mic almost fully, leaving only the space needed for you to be infant of it. I believe those ones work better than the one you showed.
To block behind me when I record, I have a cheep adjustable height garment rack I got from Amazon. I hang heavy drapes on it. Even a couple of bedspreads or old sleeping bags work. As well I'm thinking of getting 3 more and make a portable sound booth. For any photographers out there hang your light diffuser on the cloths rack, makes a good stand for light diffuser.
funny my reflection filter or vocal dhield does an anszing job on my voice overs and singing without it the quslity is gone with it my mic performs like a champ more to condider than just the shield but your room composition and instances of first reflection and how your room is treated
We always record the vocals with an absorbing material (even a blanket works) behind the vocalist. This keeps the reflections in the room from bouncing back into the live side of the mic. Now, if your are recording loud rock type vocals that you intend to drench in reverb/echo why not leave some of the natural ambient reflections in from the beginning? All depends on the sound of your room.
Man, I wish I would have found this video before I bought my portable isolation booth. I would have saved some money. Thank you so much for your video.
I love the way he came back and stared like " are you done"? or who are you talking to ? lol till he finally sat down. I wish I was there to sit on the floor and pet him I just love dogs!!!!!
I have the original SL Reflection filter which is thicker than that one. Not sure about when you are just talking, but when you sing which is at a louder decibel, the reflection filter does reduce the room reflections. I will tell you why? When you sing loud and don't have a reflection filter it goes forward bounces off the front wall, then back to the back wall and sides and gets into the mic. This reduces the vocal from bouncing off the front wall and combing back at you. Now in my studio I also have GIK Acoustic panels behind me and Auralex foam on the ceiling on a certain area. All these things work together to reduce the reflections.
When listening on some high quality headphones and focusing solely on the reflection sound itself, you can notice that the high frequencies on the reflections are reduced by about -3db. Similar to if you applied a low pass filter on the very top end of a delay plugin in a recording software. Quite subtle but I would say worthwhile! However, a good sounding room with little reflections should be your first priority!
The Aston Origin Mic is the best audio purchase I have ever made I,ve been a proffesional sound engineer for many years and was amazed at its performance especially as i am used to using prestige products like Neumann and Sherp microphones. The Halo that I have seems to add certain darkness to the tone of the voice and makes the vocals sound dark and cumbersome. I am hoping that the Aston halo will help retain the fresh vibrance of my recordings. Well done Aston.
Virtual reality glasses to hold your copy. 05:20 How would it work if you have placed the booth BEHIND your head to prevent reverb re-entering the microphone instead of placing the shield behind the mic?
The SE device is more suited for situations where ambient sound from behind the mic is a problem, such as micing a horn section in a room with lots of ambient sound, or using a Ribbon mic on a vocal in a live room. It’s not a device for doing voice over work.
These do work. When sound leaves your mouth and hits the shield, the sound ceases to travel. The sound has no chance to bounce off walls and reenter the mic from the front
Daniel Walker nigga trust the homie got a studio with this exact booth for his setup and it sounds like a professional studio but he does have it faced towards the wall with foam where his back is facing
Great video but in another video where you set up the booth on the fly in the apartment you said your first concern is blocking reflections from the wall in front of you. In this video however you say its more important to block reflections that come from behind you. Which statement is right now?
I think blocking the reflections from in front is more important because your voice being projected in that direction and thus has more energy, so it can then bounce off the front wall then bounce off the back wall and then into the mic along with the sound that travels out the back of your head and behind you While it's true that that side is less sensitive, if your voice bounces off the wall in front of you with enough energy it'll bounce off with enough energy to make noise in even the less sensitive part of the mic, and then also bounce off the back wall and go into the mic. The sound from behind you will always be weaker because you aren't projecting that way, unless sound from the front bounces to the back and adds to it
Definitely true. I use a reflection filter also. But!!! I also have the room treated. Not just the walls. Many forget the ceiling above the vocalist and microphone!!! Lol That makes the bigger difference. Even old blankets or bath towels can do a room justice. Many engineers recommend book shelves with books inside along the back wall to trap bass and unwanted reverberations. Old-school studios from years ago would use heavy curtains along the walls. The same curtains used in theaters for theatrical plays. Those big curtains that closed across the stage. You are completely correct about this tutorial. Isolating filters aren't a one stop shop for a make shift vocal booth. They help, but there's more pieces to the puzzle
I bought this exact reflection filter and it works wonders in my bedroom studio. I have wood floors and the room is huge with no acoustic foam anywhere and I would definitely recommend it to anyone with the same type of workspace.
I love it so much
Jack seems to be more interested in hearing his voice than giving good advice.
But you can clearly hear that it doesn't work in this video???
@Joëlle Weetjewel wow really, they are over $400 in australia
These things work. People who use the microphone improperly tend to change their mic'ing behaviour when using one and often times even succumb to Placebo. :)
Nice to see someone actually debunking these things. Also, the reflection filter isn't the only thing not working, that pop filter is still letting a lot of bursts thru to the mic capsule. Most of them do. They're definitely better than nothing, but nowhere near as good as distance and technique.
From an audio engineer and VO artist 25 years in the game: there's no reason to point your mouth directly at the mic capsule, and in fact most people project sound more out of one side of their mouth than they do the front or the other side. Watch yourself talk on video and you'll see your mouth habitually curving and pulling off to one side, that's where the vowels and resonance go. Point THAT side of your mouth at the mic by standing where you normally do but pointing your nose 3-5" to the side of the mic, and your P's and F's and Ess's will sail past the capsule while the body of your voice hits the capsule beautifully.
Pop filters work better than pop screens.
Thanks for that advice I will definitely use it for my voice acting I'm a newbie so getting all of the help I can is important at this stage. I definitely have issues with F's, lol
Thanks for the advice. This makes a lot of sense, and I've sort of been doing some version of this on some of the louder vocals for a lot of years. Maybe now I can start actually making it work and knowing why it does. Cheers!
Thanks! 👍🏼
Actually the truth is somewhere in the middle. The ROOM needs some minimal treatment. This is time and money. Room treatment combined with some type of shield can yield better results. If you rely on just buying a shield, you will be disappointed. Just as if you rely on one persons youtube channel to answer all you question on a subject... you will be disappointed.
Excellent analysis. My dad gifted me with one a few years ago. I tried it and was disappointed with how it solved zero issues with my recording.
Recording in my closet with blankets on my walls has been a bigger improvement than the reflection filter
Let me have it please ?
@@TheMessenger212 😂😂😂 can’t make this shit up
I was also skeptical but I bought one for around 100$, and the improvement is really noticeable!!! so you can talk theoretically as much as you want - but in the practical level, it DOES make a difference!
Sounds like you've got 100 reasons to actually believe that.
He's not "talking theoretically", he's demonstrating practical. If you spent $100 on one and it did anything, you must have had it in a racquet ball court.
ROOKTABULA So y’all assuming that’s he’s lying?
@@reekrodriqguez6552 They're assuming that he's talked himself into thinking it wasn't a bad & expensive purchase bc people don't like feeling dumb. But sound situations are different for everyone, the shape of the room, kind of mic, position in the room, materials in the walls, the source being captured... It's too varied to ever have definitive answers.
It may make a difference but again -- if you're reading copy you're screwed
0:25 "My owner is talking to himself again... I wish he would get help..."
Really wish he could help him
Sometimes he even talks to the closet. I hope he remembers to feed me.
@@drshillermd LMAOOOOO
0:28 "Nope. I'm out".
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In my experience this worked like a charm. I did multiple recordings with ans without and the difference was significant. My recording studio, before installing the panels, it was very reverbish, and when I tried the SE it did made a huge difference.
do you record with your face near mic as his in the video? I'm just wondering if it would work if I install in next to my drop down mic so my voice would have some distance from the microphone. Table stand mic kind of block my gaming view, thanks!
I thought he was right at first, but I got the same reflection filter and realized I just had the filter and mic at the wrong angle. I experimented with the angle of the filter and mic and virtually all of the reverb I was getting from my living/dining room is GONE. If you are rapping or singing at home, this is what this was designed for and it will give you more of a studio type sound. Its definitely worth trying if you are serious and ocd about your sound, but you can't just "throw" it onto your stand, lol you have to think it through and position it correctly just like all your other equipment.
right thing! i think the same
Kendall Madison I tested on my brothers and the sound is muffled and sounds really dual in a bad way. I think its better then no type of treatment at all but if you have padding and what not this hurts you.
Kendall Madison so disagree. I'm wearing apple lightening pods listening to this video and heard reverbation literally throughout the entire video. You have to have a trained ear to tell, but it's always there with those ugly things.
Kendall Madison I agree I bought one and it worked a bit but still echo . but after tweaking it and positioning it correctly it works a treat
mine is different than the one in the video it has sides which you adjust and wrap around the mic
If you can't hear the difference, then you don't need one :). It depends on the frequency content/volume of your source as well as your room.
It also depends on what surface you are facing.
Sometimes the difference is very small...sometimes not. It definitely reduces room ambient noise (record the quiet room with and without to check it). It smooths out high and and high mid frequencies that bounce back into the mic. I have tested it in treated rooms with a bunch of different sources. If your mic is set too deep into the filter, it will add low mids.
So, not a room silencer. It is a room tamer.
Another to know is that it depends on your mic choice.
Large Condenser mics pick up low frequencies from off axis sources.
The bleed around the mic is fatter....
The Filter lowers that significantly.
I ware a large mexican hat with my kids soft toys hanging round the rim when I record vocals. This breaks up room reflexions from behind me really well. I wish I could patent the idea.!!!
Do you mean a sombrero?
darkmeanjunior .Si senior, buenisimo!!!
Ahahahah
LMAO
Shhhh don't give out the secrets man
This was the best advice that I got. Thanks. I do not need the reflection filter.
I agree
You shouldn't listen to everyone because he is definitely not accurate . He is showing how not to use it. And his examples of what it's made to do is also "inaccurate" but to each it's on. And remember Even a treated room doesn't block sound from getting in the room only stops sound vibration from bouncing by absorbing it.
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@@trentgthegoat5496 HALELUJAH SMART GUY
The reflection filter helps to absorb the sound of your voice to prevent your voice from bouncing around the room but it isn't intended to be the sole solution. Put it in proximity to a wall directly behind you where you hang a large piece of carpet or a comforter. Or have a standup recording baffle behind you as well. You can also treat the room to kill reflections in conjunction with a reflection filter.
I think these shields are effective and helpful when used strategically. The shield doesn't help in this video because the reflections are mostly coming from that massive corridor behind you. I bet you would get better results if you turned your whole set up so the off axis point of the mic was aimed at the corridor and then you drew some curtains on the windows on your sides.
Interesting. For what it's worth, in my experience, this small booth has been the single most noticeable and worth while improvement to my set up. A world of difference and something I'd not hesitate to recommend to anyone wanting to record some vocals for music (which is what I'm using my set up for).
your setup is wrong if something with no mass is improving the sound of a small booth with little
real acoustic treatment mr small booth lots of foam guy how about you plz learn of deversion of sound and waves
and show a video of it in action with no added reverb noise reduction 0 subs guy
Could just make one for a fraction of the cost that works just as good.
A FUN DAY production's stop being rude, trash ass Insecure you tuber calling him out for 0 subs when doesn’t even do TH-cam, you just frustrated with your lack of success in TH-cam buddy.
@@seerking a fraction of a cost but requires certain skills and knowledge which, despite how easy those are, still needs time and effort invested. Not everyone has the know-how or even the inclination to do that.
3:16 - When someone in the other room says they gonna spark a blunt.
DEAD
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LMAO!!!!
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There's many other factors in dealing with room acoustics during recording. Unless you're in a completely isolated studio booth, you're always gonna deal with some level of unneeded noise. A lot of commercially released projects in the past 10 years were recorded in tour buses, hotel rooms, bedrooms, etc. Jay and Kanye's Watch The Throne album was mostly recorded in a hotel, and Erykah Badu's New Amerykah album was recorded at her home and in a studio with the monitors playing in the background. A good producer, engineer and mixer can find ways to deal with noise and room acoustics. You'd have to pack the room and keep it as isolated as possible. Gates/limiters/compressors can deal with the remaining noise in your mix. As far as the reflection filters go, there's better ones than the one in the video (I have one that came in a bundle pack for $100)... but they definitely help in getting rid of a great deal of noise. It's not what you use, but how you use it.
How would you recommend using it for bedroom artists/producers like me?
thanks for the advice!
You can get a nice-looking, wooden room divider for $100 to $150 and hang acoustic foam panels on one side. Treat an empty corner of your room with acoustic foam panels too (or something more decorative that is still thick and soft), and now you have a nice little sound booth that is hidden by the decorative side of the room divider and can be moved to create more space. Make sure the room divider is tall enough for you. Most are 5-and-a-half feet tall, but plenty are 6-feet tall. The "empty corner" could also be an open bedroom wall closet.
I did this! Except I used a fabric divider for only 50 bucks on Amazon! 😊
I mostly agree.
In a multitrack band environment, it would provide a little protection from other instrument bleed.
Also, use it facing into the room with your closet behind you. Might do something.
Thanks! Finally made my choice on what mic to use
If there's a wall in front of you then it will prevent the sound from bouncing behind you and back to the front of the mic. So it is better than nothing at all in an untreated room.
Only if your wall is made of foam, otherwise that wall will quickly bounce the sound from your mouth back into the mic (very bad) and also back into the room where it'll scatter in all directions and eventually come back into the mic, blurred and reverbed from all the trips. Generally speaking, you want mics as far from any hard, reflective boundary or surface as possible.
@@TheHouseofKushTV- He means that the mini sound booth reduces the sound level reaching the wall ahead of you, and therefore less sound gets to bounce back past you and reflect back again to your mic off the the wall behind you.
I reckon that's true, and similar to the previous technique with the clothing.
No. Very wrong.
@@heavymetalmusichead4969 elaborate?
Exactly right, but not just walls...in the real world a lot of people are at desks or near computers, mixers, monitors, etc...and while everyone is so focused on walls, they forget that any large surface is reflective.
Is This The Guy From Hangover ?????
Yeah, he's Zack Galifianakis
@@muscleman371 NO. Zack Galifinakis is a fat guy with a beard
@@jland12
So the guy in the video isn't "a fat guy with a beard" ?
@@kingaragornii9940 and...there goes the joke.
@@jland12
Yes.
Just a note that if you are doing voiceover work, this is probably true. If you are projecting and singing loudly, this is not true at all. This is an extremely effective filter. While I like this channel for some review data, note that a lot of these scenarios are specific to voiceover work and don't hold true if you are using these for recording amps/singing. That being said i love the C100s :)
I love the way you present different topics on your videos. You make me smile while I watch.
The one good thing about these filters is that when you sing, (especially belting), it stops your voice hitting the wall in front of you, bounce back to behind you, then back into the most sensitive side of your mic. Used in conjunction with other foam I think it is quite useful. Of course, for the $$$, a DIY vocal booth isn't that hard to make, which will do the trick better overall.
hey! im trying to figure out if i should get a 5 panel reflection filter/isolation booth because i sing alot of belted pop songs and my room is not treated in any way. if i want lesser reflections should i record with my back to a wall and have my isolation shield in front of me?
I have quite different experience with that one. Mine is very cheap and deeper, made out of foam only and slightly thicker. I am also putting a towel over the top and you can deffinetly hear the difference with and without it. Also since you are standing in front of the mike, your head and body is mitigating some front reflection too. I think that for home setup this is useful piece of gear and actually make your takes better. It`s not matching the high end studio acoustic treatment, but better than nothing in my opinion
Man, your videos are great and I don't know why you don't have more views! Straight to the point, well explained, great stuff. And 3:10 was absolutely hilarious. Good work.
Thank you very much! Glad you find them helpful!
Damion Sheppard
I liked that part as well😁😁
Yep. 3:17 was the best moment, haha. Just that look, without saying anything.
I loved that part. Was lmfbo!
It actually can help (in theory) as it absorbs a lot of soundwaves of your voice, preventing them from bouncing off the walls in front of you, which would otherwise then bounce off the walls behind you into the sensitive part of the microphone. Would've liked a better side-to-side comparison than you did now.
Absolutely he did nothing except repeat his opinion over and over..
You do realize how sound works right? Before the microphone even captures your voice the sound wave has to first bounce off the wall in front of you, then it will move to the wall behind you, and finally it reaches the mic on the travel back from the wall behind you back to the front of you. So (in theory) if this is how sound works. Putting a deflection on the front will do nothing for the reflections that are caught from the wall behind you during the soundwave's travel. You have to treat what is in front of you and behind you(acoustically treat) in order to even get any real results. This is also why condenser microphones have a designated front and back of the micrphone, because sound isn't as simple as you'd think. So yes, these shields are quite pointless alone.
@@MorbydManic I don't agree with you. Sound waves created by your vocal chords get picked up directly by your microphone. Those soundwaves bouncing off the walls are exactly the things you want to eliminate from being able to be picked up by the microphone. This is why you want something like this to absorb the soundwaves after they reached the microphone.
And yes indeed, most condenser mics only pick up audio from one side, the side you talk in.
@@MorbydManic idiøt 🤦🏻
My studio set up is in a bedroom, which is a 12x12 box, and very bad for recording. I bought an Auralex Roominator Kit about ten years ago. The newer ones look like they absorbs better then the kit I have. The kit removed the slap back and a few of the upper and lower reflections, but I still had unwanted a lot of low and upper mid frequency build up. During the mixing stage I used to have to do a lot of surgical EQ cutting. For years I had to deal with this, until I bought the same filter he is demoing about two years ago. It worked out great for vocals and just amazing for micing up my guitar cabinet. Now I do very little EQ cutting, thus retaining the source sound. The room he is recording in doesn’t really sound bad. No slap back, not bassy, but with a little bit of airy highs from the back wall. When he stands behind the filter it removed little bit of the upper frequencies and the airiness in the room. Understand that your room needs may not be the same as his room needs, Every room is different. Some rooms need more dispersion, while others need more absorption or both. This filter helped with my problems. Is it perfect no, but my results are a hell of a lot better then what I had before...plus its portable. :)
The Dog was like “look man, if this ain’t about food, I’m unsubbing 😂”
OG comment 😂
I use pillows, foam, behind the mic, and very important, I put a matress behind me. This makes all the difference.
I was ready to buy one of those to minimise the reflection on the room and you saved me !!! You are so right on anything !!! We needed somebody to clear that for us !!! thank you so much !!!
actually your voice sounds way better with the SE Reflection Filter... your room is very reverberant.... so regardless you should treat your room and THEN use a reflection Filter.
I really appreciate you taking the time to demonstrate the ins and outs of this device. I'm a new voice over artist and I invested into a portable booth that is 4 x 4 and is made up of black PVC pipe and what looks like moving pads. It seems like it does a great job of absorbing all the sound all around me but after seeing those devices I often wondered if maybe I should have invested into something a little smaller that would get the same job done. Now after watching your video I realized that that would not have been a great investment after all.
Dr dre used it for the Compton album
cuz its a bad ass tool, i finally upgraded.
Yea but Dre also has treated rooms where as we don’t. My solution would be to put foam behind me.
Dude, your videos are so good, relative to many other educational or tutorial type you tubers.
record in the smallest room in your house. make sure it's carpet. bedrooms can be great because your bed will eat up most of the echo/reverb. don't put your pop guard as close as he does, because you can still hear it popping. some mics, even cheap ones, won't pick up as much echo as others, so shop around. keep your damn door closed. clean up your audio when editing, like breathing, sniffs, mouth sounds etc. just some basic tips to get you started.
Dynamic mic
@@chrisw5742 no you want a condenser microphone
@@peanutbutterrobot Ribbon? :-P
Recording in a very small room is just inconvenient
i find that there iz lezz reverb when i open the door!
Thank you so much for explaining this in a simple way. I have the equipment and have a huge learning curve. I wish I would have paid more attention in the studio!
Ya, I have one and honestly, my trick was to put it on its own stand and put it behind me - believe it or not, it actually worked much better.
Thank you. No one else was as straight forward in explaining this.
I just ordered one and used it for the first time today and I can definitely tell a difference in my audio
SE is not good.. I have it but it has some bad frequencies
@@allybeatz4853 what model ?
I purchased this along with the a Stedman pro pop filter in front of my mic and it is Amazing. My studio in a basement with cement walls and floor and it sounds great. So pop filters do work wonders for those that can’t afford to sound proof a room with foam and it works great.
Ohhhh that closet trick was actually taught in my cinema course :) This video presentation was very VERY helpful and you've just saved me some serious $$$ I'm actually considering a complete sound booth and that's probably embarrassing overkill as I don't have your skills or voice quality. Thumbs UP and I wish you all the best! For at least the next ten minutes, you're my vocal hero!
That's an interesting solution FloodOfSins.. thanks for sharing your idea
This guy Mike has a very good voice. I just found his channel today, and the information he gives is very good. I'll be returning for more information going forward!
Saved me some money, thanks dude
I bought one and it damned works. I can more or less close it, and if very closed it works really really well...
@@manunoyonify you gotta remember that comment was 2 years ago they were probably getting scammed and not working back then
His one is shit ... It's all about the type
Look at this one th-cam.com/video/7QNgysYZAyI/w-d-xo.html
Makes ur voice sound fuller
I have one for my bedroom which is long & rectangular & instead of in a stand it sits on my desk & keeps the bass build up from the corners from booming back at me. I just had to make sure the position was right.
So I am looking at this from another angle... my theory is these shields are absorbing your vocal from getting out into the room . Thus cutting down on the reverb the room can generate. Not cutting back reflections trying to get into the mic after bouncing around the room. If that were the case would not the foam be on the outside of the unit also? And why do most manufacturers use a metal support? Would that not help waves bounce around the room even more? I had one "VO booth" that were a loud talent caused the room to just bounce the waves around. I bought one of these and it made a big difference.
Discussion begins now...
Thanks for your feedback, I was trying to avoid buying large roxul panels around my room which I have reasons for... but after watching your video here, I think there's really no way around it
Yabbut, "the sensitive side of the mic" is different for different mics. Some mics are just as sensitive on the back side as on the front (figure-8 polar pattern).
I almost replied to a troll
I made my own isolation box just like you showed - paid about 20 bucks from Walmart for a bin and foam bedding topper. Works pretty well - reading copy is a bit of an issue but I put it on my desk and have a monitor beside it. Also just recently added NVIDIA Broadcast which eliminates other noises - works amazingly. I can talk and my son can play music right beside me and you can't hear the music on the recording - like magic.
Nice tip, Doc! Thank-ya!
Solution: Heavy 'moving blankets' really cheap of Amazon (or expensive Professional acoustic blankets) place one on the floor, one behind and in front I like these because it's a portable collapsible solution. For a fixed studio solution buy some rockwool slabs and put them in wooden frames covered with a moderately 'loose' knit fabric. It's important that the fabric weave/knit is loose enough to allow the sound to enter and get absorbed by the rockwool. A fabric with too tight a knit will actually reflect the sound and stop the panel from working. These panels are remarkably effective and work best when fixed above your head out of shot. and then on the back wall behind you as you talk into the mic and then a couple out of shot on the side walls. A thick deep pile carpet also is very effective providing it covers wall to wall. 😉
I made a cheap ass vocal booth with PVC pipe. Covered it in moving blankets. It sounds amazing. Was wondering if adding a reflection filter would help. Probably better to buy foam for inside the booth. Moving blankets are clutch though.
I don't have acoustic treatment so I picked one up and it has done wonders for my blue yeti when I record videos
I have to disagree on this one. I use a Primacoustic Voxguard with a Neumann U47 Fet and it works perfectly. I've used it on EVERY one of my uploads on my TH-cam channel. I didn't like the way the Se Reflexion filter used in this video sounded. It bounced too much sound around.I think it's because of the material they used during construction.It was kinda harsh. My mic is cardioid only, and I could still hear reflections off the Se like it was an omni. PLUS, the Primacoustic costs HALF the price of the SE Reflexion Filter Pro.
The SE filter didn't bounce the sound around. It couldn't stop the sound from bouncing around.
I use a CARDIOD mike in a CONFINED SPACE..The SE's surface was too hard.
Well, not only too hard, but ineffective even if it had been soft.
Of course it helps out a much,thanks boy,have been discussing myself what gonna be useful way,you saved me a lot of bucks,greatings from East Africa Tanzania🇹🇿
Thx, this viedeo has been very helpful for my rap recordings. Standing infront of a full closet and an old matress behind me has done wonders for 0$
What about on your sides?
Would the circumstances change for music? There's a lot more energy, pitch and volume changes than just talking so wouldn't any little bit help?
"Go out an record something amazing!" Damn dude I loved that part put a smile on my face today your awesome thanks for the help!
Excellent presentation. You did a very realistic job of analyzing the pros and cons of these types of equipment.
I don't understand. You say that one of the reasons it's not good is because it doesn't protect the sound reflecting behind you, but in your video about creating a voice booth, you talk into the closet, but you don't have anything to absorb the sound behind you. So which side should you prioritize in absorbing reflections?
But it's still in front of him, even though the most sensitive part of the microphone gets reflections from behind him, right? So shouldn't he speak with the closet to his back, instead?
no, he's talking about the sides. your voice will go out to your left and right which clothes in the closet absorb.
See, I've always pondered this. There's a video of Amy Winehouse recording with Mark Ronson and she has her back to a mattress (they're also above her). So.... Wouldn't it be best to use the filter in front and the dampening behind?... Confusing.
Perhaps, stand inside the closet as much as you can, and face outward into the curved reflection filter to better contain you from all sides?
Majority of the reflections coming from behind in the room he's talking in throughout the video are from the sound hitting the floor, ceiling, and walls behind the mic and then reflecting off the walls behind him. In the closet, all of these waves are heavily dampened soon after they leave his mouth.
I use one of those, but I made a vocal booth of blankets and foam and that’s just inside of the vocal booth attached to my microphone stand so I thought the same thing that didn’t do much so that’s why I made a vocal booth of blankets and actually does a good job
You've just saved me tons of money bro! thanks for the review!
My pleasure, Tim!
Would you say I made a mistake in buying the Samson CO1U? Planning to use it for my animation. Thanks man.
Tim Solly fuck I spent like $120 on one of these and realized it didn't do much , wish I watched this before
DezBusta that sucks bro. I'm not far enough in my animating to start recording anything yet, so honestly I don't even know if what I have will work for me or not. I'm trying to do better about looking for tutorials, or reviews before buying things now.
You talk too much man you're not Eddie Kramer just get to the point we already know the answer we're just watching to see if you know what you're talking about
Thank you. I have been saying this for a long time. Making a makeshift booth out of moving blankets and a few mic stands would do a lot more.
If I talk into the mic, the panel keeps my voice around the mic, thus avoiding my voice to go around the room and come back into the mic as reverb. The panel's job is to avoid my voice to spread, that's the reason why it is in front of me speaking. It is not a barrier against sounds coming from around, it is a levee to contain the sound I am recording.
Now I understand why my recordings sounded hollow. This was great information, thank you very much.
School rappers in Russia are so cool that they even have a three-fold piece of plywood covered with egg packaging
I Like the closet idea, thanks so much. although My wife wasn’t thrilled when I converted her walk in closet into a drum booth. With clothing hanging on 3 walls the sound was amazing.
I may also use this idea on location shoot, bad room sound get the wardrobe person to roll a rack from wardrobe onto the set. Tho hanging clothes sound absorber such an effective idea.
Doggo: Hey dad you wanna go pla- oh youre recording? I'll just go nap on the carpet then. See ya.
Thank you, your video is very informative and helped me trmendosly. I am seting up my area so I can record audio books. Your video answered many of my questions, I am so happy to have found your video.
I cover myself under a blanket and keep the mic with me and sing on it. Just does the work perfectly.
It works better with a thick blanket or a thin one??
These things work wonders in the right scenario. In your example you are standing in the middle of a large empty room... In my scenario, I am at a desk with a 32" monitor, mixer and studio monitors behind the mic. That makes a lot of nearby reflective surfaces, and putting one of these shields behind the mic did worlds of good. I know this video is a bit old, but there are really good shields for like $40 now...which costs less and is more effective than covering the walls with acoustic treatment if your main issue is nearby reflective fixtures or walls.
I have seen a video in which a person takes it to the bathroom and recorded his vocals and it made a huge huge difference,.May be not that noticeable in the room..
He might have had his microphone in an omnidirectional magnetic pattern, then a filter like that would reduce the noise by half. But on a cardioid configuration, the microphone already reduces those areas anyway.
Great points. So through Pro Audio journey I have definitely learned to hear those sounds. In the beginning I couldn’t hear the differences. You’re right mics don’t pick up from the back side where the filter is place. You can immediately tell. Good video man.
4:09 isn’t this unfair? Your snapping is projecting frequency in all directions vs your projecting your waves into the shield. Moreover, when you’re talking dead center of the shield, it’s meant to mitigate the spread. It’s far from perfect, but off center speaking and snapping away from the core of the shield are far from what it’s supposed to treat. Though without levels on screen, it’s sheer speculation on my end! It’s an old video tho I’ve seen your latest stuff. Just in the fence about these shields still
Also he should be further back but hey we like what we like I personally just bought one and I live in a trailer and it was exactly what I need the vocals I've been able to produce with it is a big step up
@@KNGxARK I ended up getting one too haha. The levels when I tested them in a controlled environment weren’t different enough to warrant buying on their own but psychologically I did notice my mic technique was WAY better so it actually ended making a difference you can hear. But not functionally haha so in a weird way, it does work for me. We like what we like, as you correctly said.
I'm so glad I saw this before pulling the trigger. Thank you
I've been using my unfinished laundry room to record, the cement floor absorbs any vibrations, the exposed insulation absorbs sound, and there are no windows. I think I'll just leave it like that.
thank you ! Just saved me money, time breaking down the cardboard box and recycling, and a heck of a lot of headache and space trying to get this thing to work.
I didn't THINK these things were much chop! THANKS for the advice. A FULL booth, or none at all!
Well, no. I have a 25 X 35 foot room. I'm behind the mic and siting in an alcove, talking into the room which is all tricked out with absorption and diffusion. It's a great space in which to record VO.
Well IF you have something like THAT, the above is NOT needed is it?
Thank you for giving people honest advice about why Portable vocal booths / foam eyeballs / etc., do NOT replace actual acoustic treatment, and many times cost 3-4x the price of normal fiberglass absorbers that DO actually work.
I should have watched this video before I bought mine! I didn’t think it was working which is why I ended up here! LOL. I don’t notice it helping my recordings at all in an untreated room.
Solid knowledge! Thank you man! I made one out of wood and bed foam and it kinda works but, as your video showed, my problem is the sound reflecting back in to the mic from behind.
There are other reflection filters that can bend and surround the mic almost fully, leaving only the space needed for you to be infant of it. I believe those ones work better than the one you showed.
To block behind me when I record, I have a cheep adjustable height garment rack I got from Amazon. I hang heavy drapes on it. Even a couple of bedspreads or old sleeping bags work. As well I'm thinking of getting 3 more and make a portable sound booth. For any photographers out there hang your light diffuser on the cloths rack, makes a good stand for light diffuser.
funny my reflection filter or vocal dhield does an anszing job on my voice overs and singing without it the quslity is gone with it my mic performs like a champ more to condider than just the shield but your room composition and instances of first reflection and how your room is treated
We always record the vocals with an absorbing material (even a blanket works) behind the vocalist. This keeps the reflections in the room from bouncing back into the live side of the mic. Now, if your are recording loud rock type vocals that you intend to drench in reverb/echo why not leave some of the natural ambient reflections in from the beginning? All depends on the sound of your room.
Dog: "Who is he talking to? Does he see dead people? Is he a drinker? Im out"
Man, I wish I would have found this video before I bought my portable isolation booth. I would have saved some money. Thank you so much for your video.
It still helps tho, but you still gotta treat your room because that vocal booth shield can only do so much
Your dog is so cute
its a cat !
I love the way he came back and stared like " are you done"? or who are you talking to ? lol till he finally sat down. I wish I was there to sit on the floor and pet him I just love dogs!!!!!
DNA for dummies
I know :) I agree
ha ha ha......you were suppose to look at the guy not the dog lol.
I have the original SL Reflection filter which is thicker than that one. Not sure about when you are just talking, but when you sing which is at a louder decibel, the reflection filter does reduce the room reflections. I will tell you why? When you sing loud and don't have a reflection filter it goes forward bounces off the front wall, then back to the back wall and sides and gets into the mic. This reduces the vocal from bouncing off the front wall and combing back at you. Now in my studio I also have GIK Acoustic panels behind me and Auralex foam on the ceiling on a certain area. All these things work together to reduce the reflections.
ie. record IN FRONT of a closet, not facing it.
It would prevent reflection from behind you and the screen would block reflections from the room.
My EXACT thoughts.
When listening on some high quality headphones and focusing solely on the reflection sound itself, you can notice that the high frequencies on the reflections are reduced by about -3db. Similar to if you applied a low pass filter on the very top end of a delay plugin in a recording software. Quite subtle but I would say worthwhile!
However, a good sounding room with little reflections should be your first priority!
Tips for all get an extension chord and take the microphone in your car
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The Aston Origin Mic is the best audio purchase I have ever made I,ve been a proffesional sound engineer for many years and was amazed at its performance especially as i am used to using prestige products like Neumann and Sherp microphones. The Halo that I have seems to add certain darkness to the tone of the voice and makes the vocals sound dark and cumbersome. I am hoping that the Aston halo will help retain the fresh vibrance of my recordings. Well done Aston.
3:00 I thought he was really talking to me because I definitely wasn't looking at that 😂
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Virtual reality glasses to hold your copy. 05:20 How would it work if you have placed the booth BEHIND your head to prevent reverb re-entering the microphone instead of placing the shield behind the mic?
might also use a pair of VR goggles to read your copy
Copy of what?
Hahahah good idea!
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Lyrics or voiceover text, obviously.
The SE device is more suited for situations where ambient sound from behind the mic is a problem, such as micing a horn section in a room with lots of ambient sound, or using a Ribbon mic on a vocal in a live room. It’s not a device for doing voice over work.
Like the deep sound of that mic!
i bought one almost a year ago and it added like this boxy sound to my vocals
These do work. When sound leaves your mouth and hits the shield, the sound ceases to travel. The sound has no chance to bounce off walls and reenter the mic from the front
How do we know you're not just a shill working for Big Booth?
Daniel Walker nigga trust the homie got a studio with this exact booth for his setup and it sounds like a professional studio but he does have it faced towards the wall with foam where his back is facing
good advice and thanks. The best booth I made was the three cushions from a sofa in a 'den' shape. I couldn't keep them from falling apart though
Great video but in another video where you set up the booth on the fly in the apartment you said your first concern is blocking reflections from the wall in front of you. In this video however you say its more important to block reflections that come from behind you. Which statement is right now?
I think blocking the reflections from in front is more important because your voice being projected in that direction and thus has more energy, so it can then bounce off the front wall then bounce off the back wall and then into the mic along with the sound that travels out the back of your head and behind you
While it's true that that side is less sensitive, if your voice bounces off the wall in front of you with enough energy it'll bounce off with enough energy to make noise in even the less sensitive part of the mic, and then also bounce off the back wall and go into the mic.
The sound from behind you will always be weaker because you aren't projecting that way, unless sound from the front bounces to the back and adds to it
Definitely true. I use a reflection filter also. But!!! I also have the room treated. Not just the walls. Many forget the ceiling above the vocalist and microphone!!! Lol
That makes the bigger difference. Even old blankets or bath towels can do a room justice. Many engineers recommend book shelves with books inside along the back wall to trap bass and unwanted reverberations. Old-school studios from years ago would use heavy curtains along the walls. The same curtains used in theaters for theatrical plays. Those big curtains that closed across the stage. You are completely correct about this tutorial. Isolating filters aren't a one stop shop for a make shift vocal booth. They help, but there's more pieces to the puzzle