Diana Ross Truly HATED Him More Than Anyone..
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- Diana Ross Truly HATED Him More Than Anyone..
The Temptations and the Supremes were the supergroups of the Motown Dynasty. The groups were formed in 1959 in their hometown of Detroit, Michigan, as the Primes and the Primettes. When they were signed to Motown in 1961, they took on the names that they would be forever known as. 1964 was the breakthrough year for both, as the Supremes’ “Stop in the Name of Love” and the Temptations’ “My Girl” both crossed over in a major way, in many ways being the singular examples of Berry Gordy’s idea of black musical groups embodying the “sound of young America”.
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We all have choices to make in our lives. I believe she was all about herself and not the group.
Not only that. She would destroy other people like Florence Ballard.
Yes
@@324cmac Flo destroyed herself..
You don't know what u r talking about,Berry wanted to propell Diana out front because she had the voice to cross over to the mainstream white population,which was a great move,profit wise plus he was in love with her had a love afair,no problem with that the concern i have why push the other singers to the back , made them feel less important ,Flo felt that they started out equal ,let's stay equal,why allow your love afair changed that, this crushed flo ,she had an amazing soulful singing voice and she was making plans to start her career, then she developed that blood clot in her lungs which was fatal,Berry and Diana was responsible for her pain.@@migrain45
Excellent comment 💯💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
Leon played him perfectly in the movie 🍿
‘ Ain’t nobody coming to see you Otis!’😂
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That comment had no longevity because after 50+ yr the audience are still coming to see Otis, the audience cant see David to this day. Hail Otis Williams the top bigman.
@@TAM.w39 I've never met an Otis fan. this has got to be A.I.
@@dajhedi yes a person who understands the muzic biz, if it wasn't for what Otis stand for there wouldn't be the Temptations around to this day, by the way I like some of David songs, just like the other great american crooners.
I love Gladys Knight. she seems so down to earth and a fun person to be around.❤️
I've loved Gladys Knight since childhood and will always ❤ her and the Pips 😊
I worked as a security guard and guide at large casino in Connecticut for 8 years, and I met and spent lots of time with numerous performers (music and comedy) and the ONLY one that was ever an actual problem was Diana Ross. You were instructed by her management even before she arrived to not speak to her unless she spoke to you first, not even a “hello”. There was a long list of do’s and don’ts that we got. Lots of artists have a “rider”, which is a list of demands or suggestions (it’s usually stuff that’s easily doable anyway), but her rider was takes the cake. I will say that she must take good care of her health, because she looks incredible up close. All of her entourage looked very serious, none of them looked happy.
The majority of famous people I’ve met were very nice, but my favorite was Joan Rivers. She was extremely friendly and (as you might expect) funny, and she would go around and give all kinds of candy to everyone that worked there. Out of the blue she would ask you about your life, your family. I asked her who had the worst reputation out of all the places she’s played and hotels she’s stayed at, and before I could even finish my question she said “Diana Ross! No contest!”. She said that Diana Ross was legendary for being extremely difficult and nasty, and that it wasn’t just rumors, it was a fact. Joan did swear like a trucker offstage as well, so I won’t repeat exactly what she said on here.
I believe this I remember my Mom and Aunties use to talk about singers they didn't like Diana Ross but my Daddy loved her and my Mom couldn't stand it 😂
@@msladylibra8373My dad said she was nice. He saw her perform in southern IL during the 70s .
I am a Japanese soul music fan and when I went see Diana's show in Tokyo, I had a chance to talk to one of the tour members.
And I heard exactly what you said from him.
How terrible she treated people around her... no respect at all.
Plus, the back ground singers sounded better than her.
I lost interest in her then.
I knew someone who worked as a receptionist a a record label she was with, because she was an idol of mine I asked her how was she it sounds like witch. She spoke about everyone else well but not Diana she had that one word.
Diana Ross is from the projects of Detroit. I am certain life was not always kind to her and she pays it forward. Its her lived experience.
WRONG! The Primes were Kell Osborne, Eddie Kendricks (Tenors), and Paul Williams (Baritone). They formed in 1955 as the Cavaliers with bass Willy Waller. Willy left quickly after the group’s formation, then Kell left in 1960 to go solo (had some minor success), and finally Eddie was called upon by Otis to join him, Blue, and Al in a new group. Eddie suggested to Otis during this phone call that Paul join too. Otis agreed due to being familiar with Eddie and Paul’s act, they joined in 1960 and that was it. This group became the Elgins which later became the Temptations in 1961. Al would be fired in late 1963 and David Ruffin would join thereafter, around December of 63.
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I was always uncomfortable with Diana. It appears that the favoritism (and possibly her own Narcissism) lead her career. Other singers have complained about her. Just because one is famous, does not make them a good person. 🤷🏿♀️
I don't know Diana Ross personally or the "other singers" who complained about her. I do know, that when you are on top, folks try to pull you down for whatever reason. Was she Berry's favorite....YES, YES, YES. I read his autobiography and he stated he loved her talent and work ethic more than anything else. He wanted to create a black superstar and he felt Diana was his ticket to do it. As a fan, I can only judge her as a performer. As a performer, she delivers! As for her "feud" with David Ruffin.... all I can say is Ruffin's career stalled long before his death. As for Diana Ross, she's still out there PERFORMING!
You can TELL that the WOMAN narrating this, has NO KNOWLEDGE, and NOT A CLUE about the HISTORY of these TWO GROUPS….Referring to them as “ Bands” (a term usually associated with White Rock groups) and “ singing led” instead of “singing LEAD”
Next time, choose someone who KNOWS what she is talking about.
@@williamg2552 it's because it's a fake ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE voice reading it. This fake voice is actually a clone of Tracee Ellis Ross' voice. Listen and you can totally hear it. The fake voices have gotten good, too good, but there are still glitches, as you're talking about.
Not true. Where Did Our Love Go reaching #1 with Ross singing lead created her career. That's when it was decided Ross would be the permanent lead. Up until then, all three Supremes shared singing lead. Berry and Diana weren't sleeping at the time. The decision was all about $$$. @@user-kg8gt1jz8n
No you just a jealous hater 😂😂😂
She was jealous of his talent and he didn't go all gaga over her like so many of the Motown men did.
Very True..David could sing the ABC's & make it sound good & so could Florence Ballard.
And yet, Flo's debut album tanked so badly, she was dropped from ABC Records.@@corrynthiaiam9205
Hmm, were you there? You write as if you were.
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Diana and berry were jealous of David!
too bad thou he let drugs take his talent and his life!
I HATE these videos with AI voice overs.
Did you ever noticed that they only do black people. They are continuing doing them on black people as being dead and they are very much alive.
I hate AI, period.
Oh that’s why he wanted the group to be David Ruffin and The Temptations. He was in competition with Diana. LOL
But David Ruffin wasn’t the only lead singer. Whereas Diana sang all leads on the Supremes.
Are you saying David Ruffin wanted to play Billie Holiday in Lady Sings the Blues and Dorothy in the Wiz.He might have been perfect along side with Anthony Perkins in Mahogany
Everyone in The Temptations knew he was the best singer in the group. Smokey and Martha Reeves and Gladys Knight also had their names first.
I don't think he slept with Berry or did he?
@@324cmacDid everyone in The Temptations know he was the best singer. Before he came along I thought Eddie Kendricks and Paul Williams were great singers. A pity they didn't give Paul the opportunity to sing more after Ruffin joined.
Diana cared about herself she had no loyalty toward her fellow bandmates. No empathy and no concern as long as she could shine. And she gave, little if any noticeable credit to them for bringing her as far as she got before she decided to abandon them. Talking about her in front of her face was telling the truth about her actions out loud and not hiding how they felt. I never liked her and still don't. As one could see when you watched her perform with the others, she was a scene stealer. Gordy Favoritizem didn't help anybody but her. The man mixed business with pleasure only to be left behind as well when she found a more lucrative partner. She didn't care about him or love him either. I wonder if he ever realized that.
David Ruffin was the man.
WAS, being the key word. He no longer exists. Ross, on the other hand, continues to perform and entertain.
@@solovoyager That was a silly statement so when someone dies that means the living performer is somehow better? Okay Tina Turner is dead but Madonna continues to preform and entertain.
You know what granddaddy, you are right! It was rather silly and frankly, tasteless. My bad!@@granddaddyofthemall6320
She hated him because he wouldn't sleep with her. Smokey and David was on Tammi Terrell
@@ladygee6150Diana had better sense than to date an abuser. Tammi Terrell lost her life, chances are because of Ruffin's beatings
She was a great superstar, but I think it's interesting that no one seems to admit that she had such little vocal range for a singer of that era, where you had to sing sing. She was truly a studio singer. Can you imagine her in the studio, or on stage with someone like Aretha Franklin?
Diana was given songs that suits perfect with her voice, ive listened to Aretha singing her tunes and it just doesnt fits Aretha's style.
@TAM.w39 Right. Diana was given songs for a person who really can't sing. Same as Janet Jackson. A lot of star quality, but really couldn't sing. The songs are great though.
Was this intended for Beyonce lol
@@abdurobinson6827 nah, because unlike Diana Ross, Beyonce definitely has range and can sing. She's not my favorite, but skills are skills. Diana Ross was more like Madonna.
I made a similar comment on a different platform and her fans came at me hard. I responded you can talk about her success all day but it will not change the quality or reach of her vocals. Facts are facts. She is no Aretha, Patti, Chaka or Stephanie. Those ladies would blow her off the stage!
Let's not get it twisted Barry and Diane treated flo really bad
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Flo treated herself badly. She drank too much and it clouded her judgement. She went against the Boss and she lost.
@@solovoyager I guess if you're screwing the boss like diana Ross did I'd lose too
Maybe Flo should have screwed the Boss at ABC Records. They fronted her debut album and it flopped. Then they canceled her. Then her husband (Berry's chauffeur) left her. Apparently, LIFE treated her badly. @@LamarJennings-eo8ps
@solovoyager ...You weren't even around, PERIOD!!!
Never liked her.
I'm sure this devastates her.
I LOVE HER!!!!!!! I ALWAYS HAVE!!!!!!!YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER BULL-SHITTER !!!!!!!!
Marvin Gaye didn't like her either..
Yet he always complimented her work ethic.@@Msbellared
@@solovoyager don't change the fact he didn't like her.
How is it she was heartbroken by the treatment the other ladies had towards her and felt alienated when she was treating them just as bold. Diana's problem was she placed herself on a high pedestal and felt she was so much better than them. She kinda looked down on them, feeling they weren't on her high society level, and Barry didn't make it any better with his favoritism. So, it's no wonder the other group members treated her the way she deserved to have been treated. She was miss high and mighty and felt others were supposed to bow down to her. She can kick rocks with that funky attitude.
Personality, all personality. She shined the moment she performed and it went from there. Respectfully saying, Mr. Gordy probably lit that torch.
Mr.Gordy lit the torch alright and so did Mr. Gordy's brother n law Smokey Robinson and God knows who else.🤣
@cantdenyfacts That's true, she had a romantic fling with both of them. Which says a lot about her agenda.
@@user-tj3wq4ds5d Not just Barry, but Smokey too.
I've never understood the whole "Ross slept her way to the top" or "she was a prima donna who used her connection to Berry Gordy to look down on other performers." Ross was the lead vocalist of the best selling group at Motown. The Supremes were the first black performers to sell over a million records three years in a row. After only six years they amassed 12 #1 hits. Ross' very real power at Motown really stemmed from her ability to make enormous amount of money for the company. If anyone truly benefited from this arrangement it was Gordy. Ross was 18 when she signed with Motown, Gordy was 34. The Supremes signed a contract that gave them five cents on the dollar that they then split three ways! If Gordy encouraged her to view herself as special it was probably compensation for the low pay she and the other girls were getting.
David Ruffin once said, Diana walks around with a mattress on her back! She stalked Eddie kendricks. Detroit never forgot how she backstabbed so many people up here and had the nerve to come to Flo's funeral. Detroit let her ass know how they felt for Flo and how she treated FLO! it's still sour between her and Detroit. Plus it was not enough room for her, Aretha, Florence, Glady's Knight in Detroit! Aretha remained dominat as Detroit's favorite rightly so! Smokey, Stevie still show Detroit love! Diana Family is still here, she didn't even come to her brother's funeral! The other tragedy, it was Flo who came up with the name Supremes.
David was telling the truth but he had no room to talk when it comes to being promiscuous.
This type of thing is still happening right now in real time and it’s sad cause the fans is going to love you guys regardless ❤❤❤🎉
Diana Ross was nothing nice!
Even recently Gladys Knight was talking about how much she couldn't stand Diana.
That's what someone who met her told me.
How fascinating to hear a Diana Ross story being read in a fake AI version of her daughter's voice. I don't understand how these AI rip off voices of famous people are legal.
Fascinating how AI is growing by leaps & bounds, but better laws R not in place to protect authentic Artists, their voices & their work.. nor R laws being updated & enforced to protect consumers! For exampke.. anything AI should be labelled "AI" but it is not. I rwfuse to give a "like" to *AI* videos since automation is literally a machine & cares NOTHING abt your *human* responses & opinions. Who is being elevated by these likes? An *AI* influencer? Sheezs. 🤔
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And this whole thing about a feud with David Ruffin is such bull
No way in hell, Diana Ross could ever hold a candle, to David Ruffin, vocal wise!!!
Thank you.
@terrythompson8462 Exactly 💯 her freaking voice was annoying as hell!
And he could not hold a candle to her fame and superstardom. She’s a Legend!
@@gavinwilson7889 That's a matter of opinion
@@gavinwilson7889 100 per cent right
Stop in the Name of Love was NOT the Supremes' first hit. It was Where Did Our Love Go?
Wasn't "The Way You Do the Things You do" the Temptations' first hit - before My Girl?
I don't think all of this is true. Both the Supremes and Temptations worked together, however they were separate groups and did not have contact with each other, unless it was a collaboration on a show like Ed Sullivan or at a party. Diana was getting famous, but even Diana had to bow to the brand new Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin. I am sure she wasn't too thrilled about that.
I doubt anyone would deny that Ross was a real diva sometimes but since Ruffin, despite his jaw dropping voice was a hopeless druggie he surely got even less respect for his behavior that got him kicked out of the Temps.
I see ur another one who saw the movie and didn't watch the interview with his daughter who told every thing about her dad David Ruffin.First of all get ur facts straight about David Ruffin,when he passed away he was off drugs and was clean, everybody has a alcoholic and drug user in their family and ur family not perfect and only God knows how many druggies in ur family, I'm sorry my family not perfect like urs, leave my cousin David Ruffin alone and get ur facts straight. This is for too skinny Kenny.
And beating on another singer...He sang good, thats all he had going from him. Other than that he was trash!!
@@susierae1190 No my cousin was not trash get it straight,if he hit a woman and she didn't have him arrested she must've liked it, stupid women who let men hit them are just that stupid because the first time a man hit a woman she doesn't do nothing she saying it's ok, Imma tell you like I told my daughters a man will do what you let him do for ad long as you let him and he will go as far as you let him,my cousin wasn't trash and for you to say that you're the trash don't start bashing my cousin get your facts straight.
@@susierae1190 Ok first of all you need to get your facts straight and stop bashing my cousin,no one if he beat anyone else, she must've liked it because she could've press charges and had him arrested,a woman who lets a man hit her and don't do anything she stupid herself, like I told my daughters a man will do what u let him do for as long as u let him do it and he will go ad far as u let him go get it straight and for u to call him trash ,ur the trash for saying that and God only knows how many men beating ur ass who's probably trash who u like,come correct and get ur feet straight and please leave my cousin alone,have respect for someone who can't defend their self,u wouldn't like me throwing shade at ur deceased cousin, just leave my cousin alone because u wasn't there.
sure is a shame he was such trash, apparently he beat Tammi Terrell too. But the brother could BEG like a ho in heat.@@susierae1190
I thought she And Marvin Gayle had a very strained relationship as well.
It is fair to say that the Supremes would have never enjoyed the level of fame and success it has achieved without Diana Ross,without her wonderful vocals,and elegant and charismatic stage presence,and berry gordy new this,that is why he made her sing lead vocals.👍🌎🎤🌹💝🎹🎷🎺🎼🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
The Supremes owed their success to Holland Dozier Holland they had to twist Diana's arms to sing Where did our love go
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True. All three hated the song. But with Diana singing lead, it went to #1.@@JohnAlston-ib2ij
Maybe!
DAMN RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
David Ruffin was known to be a nasty piece of work and treated TammiTerrell very badly when he was going out with her. He was very controlling.
In 1962, the 17-year-old Terrell became involved in an abusive relationship with singer James Brown, who was 12 years older than her. One night in 1963, Terrell left Brown, after he assaulted her for not watching his entire performance. Bobby Bennett, a former member of the Famous Flames, witnessed the incident, saying: "He beat Tammi Terrell terrible. She was bleeding, shedding blood. Tammi left him because she didn't want her butt whipped."
In 1966, Terrell then started a romance with The Temptations lead singer David Ruffin. That year, Terrell accepted Ruffin's marriage proposal
and announced it onstage only to find that he was already married with a wife, three children, and another girlfriend in Detroit..
This and Ruffin's drug addiction led to several violent arguments. In 1967, Terrell ended their relationship after Ruffin hit her in the head with his motorcycle helmet. Tragically she died at the age of 24 in 1970 of a brain tumour.
However, i can see why Diana Ross would have problems with him.
The industry may have given her the power but it was up to HER how she used it. Too many people not in the Supremes have said the same about her behavior towards them.
She and Marvin Gaye didn’t get along either. She had problems with everyone.
DIANA ROSS Was Getting PAID & LAYED BY THE BOSS😂
How many other women have don’t the same thing especially women not in shoe business so who are we to judge we aren’t God remember that all u saints
@@cecilanderson2930 sleeping not the problem she destroyed and disrespected the group because she slept with the boss!
@@kennethbrown5606 she was not an angel she was hung up on Eddie and threw a brick thru his widow where him and his wife resided the late Mary Wilson
also dated Kendricks
@@lindahines9380 not talking about love life so screw her boss and destroy her group relationship with her singing mates got her friend in the group kick out she kill herself.left went solo with favoritism from Gordy please!
Yuck
I'm dying with laughter. This video took clips of people interviews over the years and clips from documentaries to make up a story of a feud between David and Diana that isn't true. Also , the clips of the man talking about rolling around in a mental hospital is from a documentary on Florence Ballard in which he was talking about the book he did on Florence and her willing to talk about Motown after her years with the company. There was no on going beef between Diana and David. Diana was in her own lane off in stardom and David was with the temptations dealing with his issues and then dealing with his addiction issues. I certainly doubt, either was thinking about beefing with the other or hating. Besides, if you are a researcher or fan of Diana Ross , you know she has never
been one to focus on negativity. She's too focused on her family and living a positive life. The proof in that we can see from watching her today.
Can we even expect better from a channel using a blatant AI clone voice of Tracey Ellis Ross in most of their videos? Using that same voice to do a hit piece on Diana Ross really takes the cake. I hope Tracey is able to stop these channels from using an AI likeness of her voice (Joe Rogan also BTW). This should be illegal.
She's disgusting and always has been
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Personality, it was all Personality. Diana Ross shined the moment she performed on stage. Respectfully saying, Mr. Gordy lit her torch with his admiration of her.this is what I meant He lit that torch. Nothing volgure. ❤
D Ross had a few hits after quitting the supremes but that was because of the popularity of the Supremes that didn't last long and her movie and acting career was a total flop. Why did they cast a fifty Year Old as Dorothy in the Wiz
She was giving up the skins to Berry😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂
Diana Ross "PERFECT DIVA" Legend. I love her as a human being. Obviously she is gifted with talent, no one can make a superstar without that person having the "it" factor. There are so many positive things i could write about Miss Diana Ross, but those who want to see negative, will. Is she perfect? NO! but who is? So relax haters her name will be spoken for decades...and you & i will be forgotten in a few generations. #1 fan since 1964.
Agreed 100 percent! LOVE Miss Ross
What a beautiful tribute!!!
Diana was a climber probably still is…Even though I’m a big fan of hers, she could have given some kind of respect to the passing of Mary Wilson other than a social media note that seemed mundane to me..We forget where we come from !
I guess after all the hate she received at Flo's funeral, she decided to keep it short and simple. They weren't really friends and Mary did take a few shots at her over the years.
She was being as real as Mary Wilson was in her book, "Dreamgirls, My Life As A Supreme". You don't talk about a person (behind their back) and expect them to be your best friend. Even though what she said might have been true, (I wasn't there) there's a way and a place to discuss their differences, and a book wasn't either of those. That book hurt Diana's popularity for a moment, she rebounded gracefully and now, one of the entertainment industry's greatest forces to be reckon with.
I will always love Mary Wilson and Martha Reeves for their constant support of Eddie Kendricks all the way up to the day he died of lung cancer.
Diana forgot where she came from when she abandoned the Supremes
Everyone has the right to pursue their dreams and go as far as their talent will take them, including Diana Ross. She didn't forget where she came from, she just knew where she was headed.......superstardom!@@penny8579
Diana & David had huge talent.
They also shared similar ego issues which is why they clashed.
Of course by dating Gordy Diana was able to get her way, but David wasn't.
It's sad when you hear former band mates talk badly about them but i guess their behaviour caused it.
Good video. 👍👍
I love Diana Ross, ❤❤ beautiful icon..❤❤
Same! I grew up in the 80s and she was already a mega solo star. Hearing stories that she was a diva went right along with her persona to me. For me her solo career far outshined her work with the Supremes, but I like the Supremes.
@@jerryryan3703 Very well said, I fell the same as you bro...and Diana Ross is still a Superstar...🙂
David came out poppin with grease and embarrassed her on tv. 😂😂😂
Ever watch Michael Eisner interview DR? He asked "Why did you get the career and the others didn't?" Her reply - "You have to LOVE it." She is an alpha. Good, bad, or indifferent, it got her there. No matter who we admire, if we look too close we'll see things we didn't want to. She's still an Icon and Legend.
A icon a legion to who all you Johnny come lately are fascinated with her career because of the public relations that you heard if you seen and heard anything about her from the beginning of her career you would think and feel differently about her. I would like my money back for when I purchased that garbage album butter popcorn. When you are celebrating her career remember even with Berry Gordy it would not have happened if it wasn't for HDH
@@JohnAlston-ib2ij The if's are endless, you can not live a life on if, HDH was there and Diana delivered...and that was their job and job well done..
This is what happens when u have someone behind you. In my opinion her work ethic and determination to want more was overshadowed by the fact that she was romantically involved with Gordy. In the public eye it’s gonna be the reason for her success was because of Berry and not that she worked hard to get there. Look at Beyonce I remember her days with Destinys Child people said she was in favor because her father was manager of the group, and she has special treatment. Look at Mariah Carey in the 90s despite the fact that she is great singer, was talented and worked hard she got special treatment because of her husband Tommy Motolla the CEO of Sony.
I’d take David Ruffin’s music over Diana’s 100 times out of 100.
David and Florence were the only ones at motown who would not only talked back to berry but cursed him out in front of others,berry got rid of both of them
Ross never claimed to be an angel. She is no devil either. Relax she is just like every normal human being with faults.
Ross wasn't "all that" to derail Ruffin. Ruffin destroyed himself.
She is so 🌹Beautiful!.....STILL🌹🌹
Not mentioned is Diana Ross' tireless work ethic and true love of entertaining. She spent hours in the studio learning everything she could as both a Supreme and in her solo career. She did vocal arrangement for "So Close," an underappreciated masterpiece. I loved Florence and Mary but where is the proof that Florence had this amazing voice? Buttered Popcorn? Mary had the best record on the Farewell album with "Can't Take My Eyes Off of You" so why did Terrell then take over as lead? Up The Ladder to the Roof " is a top 5 Supremes song of all time. After that what? Stoned Love? Nathan Jones. At the same time Ross was recording into the stratosphere. Touch Me In The Morning. Remember Me. Reach Out I'll Be There.
The only thing I can give Diana Ross credit for is she was in very good tune tapping on that Coca cola bottle in the studio when Marvin Gaye was recording Got to give it up oh yeah Marvin said she was groovy
How do you know how many hours she spent in the the Studio.But again I give her credit for being in excellent tune tapping on that Coca cola bottle on Marvin Gaye's recording Got to give it up
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Well said my friend, Diana Ross had a star quality and she is still having Sold Out shows today...🙂
Not in the studio but in Mr Gordy's bedroom
You would think all the money she has & she can't get her teeth together? come on Bro
It ain't stop that money, fame, glamorous image or the creation of a LEGEND! "Once upon a time, there was a little black girl born in the Brewster Projects of Detroit Michigan" ---Now, let's see your teeth!
Okay Mary wells Teena Marie , Etta James, Glayds knight, Betty wright, Barbra mason just to name a few were all way above miss thang
Diana Ross can't sing at all in the tradition of African singers. She was molded into a pop singer. Of course, it's a business decision. Florence and Mary were soulful singers. Aretha, Patti, Stephanie, Gladys, Chaka and Cissey were much better singers. Whitney, Mary J and Mariah are definitely much better singers than Diana Ross.
Yet she sold more records than many of them......@@MlilwanaOsanku
@@MlilwanaOsanku Ms. Ross created a lane and stayed in it she didn't have to sing like anyone else and it was her unique sound that gave The Supremes the #12 Hits, and she is still selling out concerts she also sold more records/ CD's than the artist that you mentioned also she put out a very nice CD ( Thank You) last year along with a Tour that did very well...
@@MlilwanaOsankuYET almost ALL of those singers have done tributes to ROSS…go figure!
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Wake Up Entertainment is an industry. The preponderance of evidence has clearly shown being the better talent rarely translate onto greatest financial rewards. Exhibit - R. H. Harris, Archie Brownlee, Julius Cheeks, Sam Cooke, and David Ruffin - the best five singer this Hebrew has heard.
Also, it does not take care of cost of living. And not only that entertainers generally are extremely high maintenance creatures. Mariah Carey is a wonderful singer. However, it is mourned she was given a choice to perform oral with male intermittent organ for her demo to be approved.
it was said David Ruffin asked Diana Ross, is there a male organ in Motown she was not aware of
This Hebrew experienced Patti LaBelle calling Diana Ross onstage. Diana Ross refused.
This Hebrew has no idea where you are going with your statements. He hopes you channel John Henrik Clarke, Malcolm X, Yosef Ben Jochannan, Walter Rodney, Eusi Kwayana, Cheikh Anta Diop, Kwame NKrumah and Marcus Garvey
“Every single thing that touches your life, religious, socially and politically, must be an instrument of your liberation or you must throw it into the ashcan of history.” - John Henrik Clarke
Probably because they were too much alike
That's exactly why I would buy a Supremes record as soon as it hit the record shops. Knowing Berry was putting "the meat" to Diana just made me have to have the record...............NOT! I loved THE VOICE! Who was fucking who had nothing to do with it.
David Ruffin was such a gifted a talented entertainer i can see her hating David Ruffin. The only thing that held David Ruffin back was David Ruffin . Just face the fact , David Ruffin had complete control of the audience when he sung. He was one of the most exciting men who ever graced the stage. Diana Ross was definitely a great singer , but she couldn't mesmerize the audience like David. He sung a song called a precious love in a tenor tone of voice , I thought it was Eddie Kendricks. Then he sung statue of a man in baritone. The only thing that held him back was his ego.
The beginning of this clip the guy speaking I think was the manager Shelly Berger who managed the Supremes and the Temptations. He was clearly talking about Florence Ballard NOT David Ruffin. I tell you folks will put BS videos together to just put crap out here on TH-cam.
This channel ,blogger always gets stories about AA artist wrong ,seemed to not know more about the artist they make a video about,mix facts about them with other artist. Everyone a fan ,grew up with these artist knew Diana and Florence had issues and Florence was real as to why .
Everyone in Detroit knew diana was like that well before they became famous,like a school age or neighborhood friend asking for some of your candy when you only had a few pieces left but the next time you saw her and she had a full bag if you dared to ask for some,they'd scream out "do I look like your mother,you better get a job and get your own instead of begging,Damm,always begging".thats Diana folkes.
Florence’ Ballad was a better singer and Phine. RIP Queen
I love Diana Ross and continually see her trashed in the American media needlessly.
LOTS OF JEALOUSY TOWARDS DIANA WHEN FAMOUS 😞😞😞
Diana Diana!! People either loved her or hated her. When I saw Mahogany movie I said this is just a movie and not necessarily a true accesment of her life I but I think it was close enough. She to was the first Black female superstar and definitely a diva through and through it didn't matter What she accomplished musically financially and professionally far outdid everything else she is my big sister and I love truly and I respect her Critisize everyone else if you like but leave Diana Ross and James Brown alone
Nina Simone
As far as I have learned Diana Ross wasn't thinking about any of this stuff. She was too focused on her own success and kept it moving. Also, from a musical arrangement standpoint, the key signature of the song, "I Know I'm Losing You" had to be transposed into a key that all of the members could perform; not to low for The Supremes and not too high for The Temptations. The great thing about Mr Ruffin's vocal prowess is that he had a very extensive vocal range and in the key they chose for that Ed Sulivan performance, he had to sing with more power than usual, which naturally would have overshadowed Diana Ross's soprano voice. There was of course one more television performance for these two groups, but by that time Mr Ruffin had succeeded in being ousted from The Temptations.. Professionally, these two singers really didn't have much to do with one another.
All Diana did was grin with those skinned back gums and big ass teeth !! Barry made everything about her!! All the studio time.. the interviews even had the songs written strictly for her!! She wasn't better looking or more classier the other ladies!! It was Barry that had everything given to suit her and ONLY HER!!! her voice like Paul M. of the Beetles said had all the songs sounding alike!!
David destroyed Diana in that performance in every way possible, he even sang her song better than her.
Of course Lady Diana Ross have done better. When a group doesn't together as tight as a glove ,everything around them becomes a house of cards. She ran towards Berry Gordy for protection smart move on her part.
No she is a snake
I met her once! She was so sweet to me. She bought my groceries for me!.. I know I’m not perfect.. so hey. Fame makes everyone think you’re supposed to be perfect I guess
not challenging your logic, but is *perfection* really required to be fair & kind to your bandmates, label-mates??
That's your experience but it sounds like you don't know her history and the experience other people had with her people seem to worship stars and their money get a life wake up and smell the coffee famous people don't know you or give a damn about you only if you're contributing to their bank account
Nor do they give a damn what YOU think about them.@@JohnAlston-ib2ij
David Ruffin was trash. He beat Tammy Terrell “f” him!
Gordy was the epitome of a Simp!
You cant keep a superstar down once they begin to shine!
She wasn't a strong singer but ok. I know she was a hoe
What is wrong with not letting others hold you down? Nobody complains when this happens with men on sports teams; in fact, everyone love comparing and talking about who is the best in basketball, football or any other sport. Ross was competitive, but as Gordy said, she had the talent to back it up. She was a black girl who rose to the occasion to become one of the all-time greatest in her line of work--not just in the black genre, but as an international superstar who may have sold out shows on more continents and in more countries than any other star has come come close to doing.
Your comment is exactly the problem you and the kind of people you worship don't have respect for others
Well said, our society usually always perceive women as fodder for disparaging, but not men.
Ms Ross ain't even thinking about this Bull shit, even until this day,why bring this up? someone's broke and in need of money!😢😂 and I'm sure it's not her🎉🎉🎉 still love 💕 me some Diana Ross 2023/24/25 you go girl.haters please sit down and move on😢 what difference does it matter Today to the parties involved?
The folks who are stabbing Miss Ross in the back should take a good long look in their mirror; the backstabbing people are the worst of them all!
Diana Ross is the Queen of Backstabbing. Read the biography by Mary Wilson, " Dream Girl." You'll find out who's the real backstabbing person. She stepped on & over everyone to get her way. She deserves no mercy.😢
I have read Dream Girls which is proof of Mary Wilson's abilities of backstabbing as well.
What goes around comes around Diana Ross had a bag full of daggers and she wouldn't hesitate to use them she has more victims than Jack the Ripper
@@robinbubb901 Back in the sixties Diana Ross was the Queen B
Ross was Horrible Gladys Knight hated her so did lots of other singers.
Even actress Cicely Tyson told a story about how Diana sabotaged her at the Oscars in her autobiography.
This video is bs and not factual. David Ruffin wasn’t even in the group when the temps and the supremes did their joint album.
I'm old enough to remember most of that drama being played out, including her sleeping with Barry Gordy, her treatment of the other Supremes, and never liked Diana Ross!
Wow! Living thru it is definitely different from hearing about it as the past. I once met an older man who talked about her too as he was around back then.
@john Alston..Thanks John..i stand corrected.👍👍
It's so unfair the way people are still criticizing Diana Ross when truth be told there was no blueprint to be followed. She was the first Black woman on television receiving that type of exposure so when people criticized her behavior there was no way of knowing her behavior was wrong when there were no other black girls in those spaces before her; I honestly believe it wasn't that they were being told to only ask Diana I believe white interviewers chose to ask Diana because she was the voice that they heard upfront and I believe her voice and its quality is what made those Supreme songs work due to its unique nasal tone that was colorless; Florence voice and especially Mary's voices sounded like Black girls Diana's voice made those Supreme songs crossover RnB and ultimately pop songs; if Diana wasn't sleeping with Berry her voice would have still been upfront because it was unique; when they were on Lupine Records Diana Ross voice was also lead on Lupine Records released songs and not Flo's voice and Milton Jenkins built the group around Flo yet they also chose not to use Flo as the lead; this was the 60s not the 2000s black music makers were attempting to crossover into the pop market back then which was not being done and Diana had that unique voice that others didn't similar to the way Dionne Warwick had a unique tone that other black girls of the time didn't have and it allowed them to crossover. I believe Mary and Florence made Diana's life miserable with their paranoia against her and keep in mind these were very young women behaving like young women accusing Diana of things based on hearsay and beyond her control; people neglect to say that Berry told the girls to return only after they graduate which lead by Diana they returned a few months later because Diana graduated at 15 her sophomore year due to her taking on extra classes; the other two never graduated they would have never been signed if left to them. In those days when black people released music when they released those same songs in Europe typically a white artist would cover the song that wasn't done with the Supremes those songs were never covered by whites they were released with Diana's voice and that was unheard of and a huge leap forward for all Black singers and Diana Ross opened that door; people forget Mrs Ross was the Motown chaperone when they went on those early tours while underage not the other mother's Mrs Ross they would never have been part of the Motown Revues again if not for Diana and Diana never missed a days work performance or studio while the other two parties all the time; none of this is talked about only Mary's criticism and keep in mind Mary had Flo forced out of the group in the final meeting when Berry asked "Mary do you think Flo should leave the he group?" and Mary responded "Flo wants to leave the group" and with that it was unanimous there was no need to ask anyone else when Mary spoke for Flo; but that part Mary NEVER tells..
Mary Wells was first
Mary was jealous of Diana
he wasn't exactly 💯 in love with her either David knew berry Gordy favored her over everything and everyone because
she was sleeping with Gordy!
Hate it's a powerful word
Going to hate somebody that never done nothing to you WOW !!
Get real diana ross was the BB King of rhythm, she talked she couldnot sing , she didnot have range. She couldn't touch aretha, glades, rippleton, Tammy terrrel, warwick nor ella james. Motown knew it and diana ross knew . She just qualified to cross over .she require a strong vocal backup. She didnot have range
Flo had a better voice!
I saw dirty Diana perform, she stunk😂. She acted like a spoiled brat. She was not that good of a singer. Actually Mary Wilson was much better. There were many other singers that could truly out sing her...Natalie Cole, Aretha, Patti Labelle, Shauka Kaun. To me the Emotions could out sing the Supremes by far
No, Diana was not the best singer, But the singers that you mentioned did not have the personality that she had. In the music business, you have to have more than just a good voice.
Chaka Khan
Did Gordy refer to Mary Flo or Cindy as 'background singers?
While it's true, the music industry controls some things that artists have no say in, YOU control how you treat others.
I grew up in Atlantic City so I got to see many of the Motown groups on Steel Pier. One day my cousins and I were on Pennsylvania Ave., we saw Diana and Berry Gordy together. She was wearing the glasses with the fake nose. We actually noticed Gordy first and when we screamed his name, (''Isn't that Berry Gordy!'') both of them ran down the street. 😂
I never was a fan of Diana Ross, and never thought she could sing... now Florence Ballard, she could sing!!... she ( Diana Ross) was terrible in the wiz and to old!
"WHERE DID 'MY' LOVE GO" ....I've never heard that?
David wasn't on TCB show get your story straight
Poor David, let the guy rest, he had demons he couldn't beat and now hes at peace, leave him alone😮
She is the BOSS!!!
who really cares! 😮 payday is coming for
DR and BG!
….you all can say bad things about Diana Ross, she has enough RESPECT for herself that she won’t appear in NO TYLER PERRY MOVIES😳💯✔️…because she feels his movies portray Black people in a negative light and she’s RIGHT💯✔️..
Aretha Franklin, best voice of them all hasn’t even been mentioned.
I don't know these people, so I kinda like don't care who was more popular or not. I liked the surprems music and I like the temptations music. That's far as it goes, I have my own life to live , I've never had the fame and fortune that these people had. But you can't miss what you never had. Like I said I liked them , but they were never my main focus in life.
Diane what's goes around comes around 😊
Thank you.
She will always be my favorite singer. ❤
David thought he was the temptations
Like Diana Ross was the supremes
But luckily for Diana Didn't fall for David ruffin and to get ruined
The Way Whitney did with Bobby Brown
That 15:27 Part, Ms Ross is THE BOSS 🥰
First Whitney was far more comfortable and experienced with drugs and thugs than Bobby Brown was... My family is from New Jersey and attended the same church as her and Dionne... people really need to stop blaming Bobby for Whitney's drug problems...
Bobby Brown killed her
Killed her mentally and her soul
Just because Bobby Brown loved cocaine didn't mean he had to enable her
And let her die because he was a Lost Cause
I wish people stop defending this scumbag
She had Gordy’s child!
Di' and Marvin Gaye were also like water & oil.
wasn't Ruffin the second famous black man to beat Tammi Terrell?
James brown was the other
Bruh he actually didn’t beat in her they lying bruh James brown was the one who did that
@@slimelifekj5155 Both James Brown and David Ruffin beat up Tammi Terrell.
On the Sullivan show David was supposed to come down and stand next to Diana,but he held back until he felt like coming down. Diana pitched a fit backstage, Mary and Cindy fled the studio avoiding the storm they knew were coming.David called Diana several nasty names in from of berry and worse in front of the "white folkes',gordy wasn't having any of that.
The feeling was mutual, its recorded, that David ask Diana to get away from him calling her u-ly.
Brewer Douglas projects watched her play when I was a child looking out the window that proved dreams are the wings of the mind you can fly peace ❤
Diana Ross hated anyone who could "sing circles" around her..., 😂 !!!
LIKE YOU KNOW
Absolutely 💯
A number of mistakes in this. The pic purported to show 4 Primettes/Supremes are The Supremes with a French model. Pics of the Tempts showing Dennis Edwards while talking about David Ruffin. Butchering a song title....
She was nasty to Florence ballard,and its said Diana was behind the threats to shut ballard up,whoch happened.
SHE GOT ARRESTED IN TUCSON FOR DRIVING WHILE INTOXICATED! POOR THING HAD ISSUES!
Yes you're right she was, but that was not an ongoing issue, it was the result of the REAL love of her life he ex-husband Arne being killed in South Africa...
Please send the the name of the soundtrack