You have to remember that this film was a production from the Atomic Energy Commission. This predated the Three Mile Island accident by several years. The AEC wasn't just about nuclear weapons testing but also about advocating the peaceful use of nuclear energy. It also predates the concerns that actually brought about the Environmental Protection Agency. I'm not advocating what the film suggests here. I'm only trying to convey the context in which this film was produced. In general, modern fracking methods with fracking fluids are just as productive and not nearly as dangerous as an undergound nuclear explosion. The only real concerns are that the wells are properly cemented to keep the fracking fluid out of the water tables and, of course, minor earthquakes. Keep in mind that all energy extraction methods have risks and dangers. Yet without that energy, our lifestyles would be very very different. So there is also a risk for NOT exploiting these resources. The question is one of balance. And we need to realize that people back in the early 1970s thought very differently about many of these technologies and trade-offs. Much of it was due to ignorance. And know that some day your grandchildren will look back and what you were ignorant of and wonder what the hell you were thinking too.
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomiteyes they have ever heard of the atomic mutant also known as Donald J trumptard something that dumb could only be created by something equally as dumb
I pumped hundreds of cement jobs in Battlement Mesa, Parachute, Rulison and Rifle CO. Passed the "Rulison" site many times (actually in Battlement Mesa, CO) and somewhere around 2008-2010 they came and did an exploratory drill to check on the formation. Surprise, surprise! Still too radioactive! Who'd-a-thunk?! Rediculous idea. I was just a little boy when they detonated and the dishes in our kitchen shook 45 miles away in Grand Junction, CO. 1970 or '71 I think. Didn't know one day I'd be working up there when I was 40 something! Lol!
Love these old government videos - Seems simple enough, use a nuclear explosion to stimulate gas and oil production which did work in theory. The main drawback: the natural gas and oil stays radioactive! xo
Some people say this test is the cause of cattle mutilation in that area - the aim was to study long term effects ... but since that would have had some bad press, they blamed it on the aliens! Trump also like blaming things on aliens, I heard.
Occasional warbling of the sound with image flutter was another characteristic I recall from watching "AV Labs" type films, which was sometimes comical
3 Projects; Gasbuggy, Rulison, Rio Blanco. All were met with questionable efficacy, as well as irradiated gas which posed a problem to get safe. All were eventually plugged shortly after producing. An interesting use, and at least they tried. Plus hydraulic fracturing technologies were also improving at this time. Fracking is much older than people think.
Yeah, we got two of those test sites right here in Colorado. Oh shit, the gas that comes out of a nuke-blasted gas well turns out to be radioactive. Who knew? How inconvenient! So they put up signs saying, "Don't dig or drill here for 10,000 years" and walked away. Nice.
The phrase, "Don't piss in my face, & tell me it's raining" springs to mind here. I've just realised, there's more footage of some of these crazy experiments, in Peter Kurans "Atomic journeys" documentary.
I get the feeling the guys behind these ideas didn't know that much about how nuclear weapons work. Sure you'll get a nice big void after the bomb detonates underground, too bad it'll be coated in radioactive waste. The idea of storing water in them actually made me chuckle.
In the eternal conflict between the concerns over global warming with fossil fuels and the concerns over radiation and nuclear weapons proliferation someone asked the question no one was asking: "What solution would had the worst of both worlds?"
I have part of accelerometer, which contains two ferrite pot cores and coils, first used for measurement of free-field particle motion from a nuclear explosion in salt. Its been sealed in clear resin and mounted of solid metal stand. I have been told its to do with the Project 12-11 Salmon 5kt october 22 1964.
I'm surprised they didn't try to nuking garbage to reduce landfills? But maybe it will just be blowing the garbage all over the place in the mushroom cloud.
ACTUAL FACT HERE!!! A college back east made the proposition of using an air burst nuke over the plastic islands in both oceans !!! USARMY CORPs of dodos is investigating it now !!!
Project Gasbuggy didn't go as planned. Instead of fracking the rock, they created an underground cavern with solid walls as they melted the rock. Think of a lightbulb underground. I used to drive past the Gasbuggy site near Dulce, NM and knew a number of people who worked on the project. Same thing with Project Gnome near Carlsbad, NM - that one didn't work either. And then there's Amchitka Island in the Aleutians where they nearly cracked the island in half attempting to make a harbor with a single nuclear detonation. In fact, I have a hard bound book commissioned by the AEC and produced by the engineering firm I worked for that documents the remediation of the island after the test.
Amchitka wasn't a Plowshare detonation for a harbor; it was an underground test of a five megaton warhead for the Nike Zeus... They had wanted to test it in the continental US, north of the Nevada Test Site at Tonopah, Nevada, but a 1 megaton underground test shot there ended up creating a huge subsidence zone and a 6 foot high scarp where the entire valley floor sank 6 feet after the detonation. SO they decided to test it at Amchitka. Raised the entire island and surrounding seafloor by 25 feet. There's footage of the drilling and excavation of the test chamber underground and the resulting detonation in Peter Kuran's "Atomic Journeys" DVD, some of which is right here on TH-cam... OL J R :)
I really like how they conveniently leave out the residual radioactivity bit. With the "new" drilling going on relatively near where the blasts were carried out makes me wonder if the recently drilled gas/oil could carry any residual radiation along with it.
That's an interesting question. Presumably the government monitors activity around this site -- but if you watch the excellent film "Atomic Journeys" by Peter Kuran you will see that at least one of the Gas Buggy sites is pretty much not gated off or concealed in any way. Natural gas is often naturally radioactive but of course any gas coming out of this particular site would likely by far hotter!
As I understand it, these reservoirs can truly be vast. As a previous comment noted, a contractor lost a Americium rod out the back of his truck. It was supposed to be handled carefully with special procedures in place that obviously werent followed. It's not too far of a leap for an operator some hundred miles away to start piping contaminated gas/oil and not follow procedure. Kind of scary when you think about it. I almost want to get a Geiger counter. Speculation aside, my inner conspiracy voice says they knew exactly what would happen. They just needed a guise to continue weapons testing.
The rock really doesn't have great conductivity for any type of material. Over geological timescales, sure, material from the blast can migrate significant distances. Plus natural gas is already somewhat radioactive especially from radon, which is not removed in commercial applications.
Brought to you by the same people who brought you The Salton Sea !!! And nuclear testing 500 miles off the coast of San Diego then calling it an east-west earthquake !!!
It's not the scientists who are dubious. They're all about the science and learning. It's the ones who employ their services in order to commercially manipulate it to their own ends.
@@uberkloden Where do you think "Simultaneous triggering of thermonuclear weapons, at/Off San Diego, vegas" may have occurred? There were none such as far as I know.
"Government - Private Industry endeavor"; aka Federally subsidized Private Industry profiteering, aka corporate welfare... (to paraphrase: "I am the Federal Government, and I'm here to help...")
Wether the crude product is irradiated, the refining process would separate any dangerous material from the gas, which I don't think can carry radiation. EDIT: Turns out that radon, a radioactive gas byproduct of uranium and thorium decomposition, is common in shale oil deposits. So radiation is already a common issue in energy production, this method is obviously not helpful in that arena.
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Vlad The Inhaler also there is a lot of neutron activity in there, the nuclear transmutations are very complex and the underground is just as complex. Besides radon, deuterium, tritium, thorium, there are many more radioisotopes being born in the well and not only contaminating the gas or crude but also changing the chemistry in there and surroundings. The fractured crust is, then again, another serious isue with very, very, very long term impact.
Here's the report into the radioactivity in the gas. If the claims are true, they were somehow able to control the generation of radioactive isotopes in the nuclear blast, there was almost no Cesium-137 or Stontium-90 generated, the most abundant isotopes they detected all had a half-life of 58 days or less except for some Krypton-85 (half-life 10 years) and Tritium (half-life 12.3 years). They detected 0.012 to 1.16 micro-curies per liter of Tritium, the EPA limit in drinking water is 0.02 micro-curies per liter. So it clearly exceeded the EPA's limit. So while exceeding stringent limits, it wasn't hopping with radioactivity. www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/4007203 I'm surprised at this, I thought they would have detected boat loads of Cesium-137 or Stontium-90, that it would have been far more radioactive. These claims seem to be confirmed by Project Gnome, a 3.1 kiloton atomic explosion detonated in a layer of salt in 1961. People were able to enter the cavity created by the nuclear blast 6 months later, after it cooled down, without lethal danger from radioactivity. th-cam.com/video/DFJ2MyWlXgs/w-d-xo.html Also, neutron irradiation should make the surrounding rock radioactive, but what is the half life of Silicon and Oxygen? (sandstone / quartz). I think Silicon-31 might be generated from natural Silicon-30 (3% of natural silicon) by absorbing one neutron, but it has a half life of just 157 minutes. Silicon-31 decays into Phosphorous-31, which is not radioactive. Oxygen-19 might be generated in tiny amounts if the rare natural isotope Oxygen-18 absorbs a neutron, but it has a half life of only 26.5 seconds, and it decays to non-radioactive Fluorine-19.
It's very interesting. The Gasbuggy obviously was made with crematory oven ash and hence yield overstated vs truth. The plan obviously involved already the use of the pressure to fusion the human ash into "more fuel", the result isn't presented but the coming of the Rulison (ruly son, legal, without gas) indicates that certainly was it a 77% failure.
Adam Winters ,using the wife's TH-cam account and I'm reminded that if I could bottle her natural gas,we could fuel at least a mission to mars...sorry hunny,..lol..but I've done the math.
I am just an electrician (not a nuclear engineer). and so might not fully understand, but wouldn’t the oil and gas obtained via atomic explosions described, wouldn’t it all be radioactive? Seems burning radioactive natural gas in my home’s gas-fired furnace or water heater is a bad idea.
18:20 Yeah, So You Nuke A Hole Underground, And They Understand It Gives Off Radiation. You Telling Me The Oil, Gas, And Water Stored In Them Didnt Get Contaminated?
Nuclear fracking of shale oil and natural gas. What could possibly go wrong? "Er, lads, we're running out of justification for our nuclear weapons production budget. Anyone got any ideas? Can someone translate that for Tebor please?..."
Austral was a venture capital firm, but it's real purpose was a tax right off to super wealthy, exploration cost were deductible under federal law and you could avoid paying taxes on 6 to 10 million a year if you were a Austral shareholder. An't capitalism grand!
yes capitalism grand is grand... But we have not had true capitalism in a while in the US and it was gone before this. What you describe is not capitalism and is actually crony capitalism.
j james There was never true capitalism or communism because neither system is possible (even if they were desirable) with human nature being what it is.
Indeed. Subsidies, tax exemptions, and all "public-private" partnerships are socialist political tactics, not capitalist methods. Funny how so many people hate those things, yet they hate capitalism and idolize socialism; smh.
sink holes are caused by underground water washing the soft soils away, after time it can no longer support itself and collapses. normally caused by rain water or poor drainage in urban areas... the water washes off concrete/tarmac to one point then goes under ground sometimes causing the same affect as rain water.
My biggest concern is the fact that the first time they did do their test how much it blew up into the other shell Oil and other stuff it hit the water table to I bet it's probably contaminated water table and there being very ignorant about it and the fact that they knew they went to big of an explosion and their second test they wanted to double it how incredibly ignorant that is
It's in the middle of nowhere in NM. There is no "water table" as such in that area. It's high desert, extremely arid with little if any water available. But, you, having impressive 20:20 hindsight, have it all figure out...
la cartella ponfa, dentro cui c'era il mondo ... non sarete niente e sarete felici, perchè sotto al bel vestito ci sarà un fantasma ... sorride il fantasma, si diverte un mondo, è finalmente libero da questa vita di cattiveria, fisica ... l'ufficietto con l'operatore, che non ti vede non ti sente, si tappa le orecchie poi gli occhi come mr. scimmia ... se tu fai, così, io ti prendo e ti faccio sparire proprio ... poi, vado da chi ha stretto mani sporche, infarto ... poi! tu nella tua oasi di tranquillità eri al top, fracking ... ti devi bere acqua gialla come in africa. ma non è mica finita qui sai, cosa credevi di restare sulla mappa per molto. se c'è un vulcano erutta, e poi pulisci pure ... la roccia nera, magmatica, come la rupes nigra, ovvero terraformare ... poi vediamo che ci fai col mondo così siffatto a mano di dio ... dio ha fatto proprio una brutta fine dietro le quinte, e il gioco è finito. adesso si diventa veramente civilizzati, ci si crede davvero, può dover convenire proprio ... facciamo si che la control room della mente non deve continuare a risultare? bene, ma bene, complimentoni ... però il gioco lo cambiamo allora, certe cose simpatiche finiscono qui ... prossimo passo ti dico subito: non esisterete e sarete felici. neanche respiriani o fantasmi, non esistere proprio.
Now we in the uk face the threat of fracking and we are told how fab it's going to be by our govt. Meanwhile communities everywhere are rising up. Wondering what's in the explosives they would use to fracture rock today?
+Julie Daniels We are led to believe that conventional explosives (RDX, C4 etc) are used in present times, to 'Frack' - *But* the issue arises when residues of substances used in modern processes, seep into our water-tables - but there is very little to no attention given to fault-lines being displaced, resulting in unforeseen seismic activity and the opening of new channels that may (will) cause the aforementioned residues to reach natural water sources underground, and on the surface..
they don't use explosives actually - the process inject high pressure water with very potent chemicals added into rock strata with trapped gas bubbles. - it should be known though that fracking has apparently caused major problems and is concept that is not well tested at all. - also just blowing cracks in rocks would also potentially release things like hydrogen sulfide, carbon monoxide and various other dangerous pollutants from there.
Kevin Miedema Thanks for that. I was unclear about the nature of 'Fracking' when I commented. Using nukes isn't any less damaging down the line, than process of modern fracking
Instead of soft rocky oil they can blast carbon, well that would become enriched carbon. Anyways I wounder what happens when a nuke detonation that takes place in these conditions , where the material given to the explosion is suppossed to burn until the neutron cycle ends and the detonation underground is sorrounded by hard anough rock to restrain the energy reaction to explode away, does it turns into heat as in a reactor or the chain reaction simply exhausts itself.
LOL:) Energy has to come from somewhere... I guess the alternative is better and yall can freeze to death over the winter. Stupid envirowhackos... OL J R :)
I swear they are brilliant and dumb at the same time. They figured out how to do it, but failed to think of what will happen to all of that radiation. I mean everything in the blast zone will be hot for years
actually this technology might be usefull as long as the right precautions and surveys are used. It would rely on a much smaller, and relatievely well contained amount of waste - which all other options couldn't deliver without net more damage and waste - nukes are very good at packing lots of energy into a tiny package. That being said, we should as a race be responsible enough to optimally use our resources and not exploit and deplete them in the way we are currently doing - nukes should never be used as a easy way to accelerate this.and take that '60s optimism with a pinch of salt...
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You have to remember that this film was a production from the Atomic Energy Commission. This predated the Three Mile Island accident by several years. The AEC wasn't just about nuclear weapons testing but also about advocating the peaceful use of nuclear energy.
It also predates the concerns that actually brought about the Environmental Protection Agency. I'm not advocating what the film suggests here. I'm only trying to convey the context in which this film was produced.
In general, modern fracking methods with fracking fluids are just as productive and not nearly as dangerous as an undergound nuclear explosion. The only real concerns are that the wells are properly cemented to keep the fracking fluid out of the water tables and, of course, minor earthquakes.
Keep in mind that all energy extraction methods have risks and dangers. Yet without that energy, our lifestyles would be very very different. So there is also a risk for NOT exploiting these resources. The question is one of balance. And we need to realize that people back in the early 1970s thought very differently about many of these technologies and trade-offs. Much of it was due to ignorance.
And know that some day your grandchildren will look back and what you were ignorant of and wonder what the hell you were thinking too.
Jacob Brodsky Incredible, we wouldn't think of it today.
@@SiegePerilousEsauMaltomiteyes they have ever heard of the atomic mutant also known as Donald J trumptard something that dumb could only be created by something equally as dumb
Excellent comment and dissection and dissemination of the information!!
Being safer than an underground nuclear explosion is a pretty low bar
I pumped hundreds of cement jobs in Battlement Mesa, Parachute, Rulison and Rifle CO. Passed the "Rulison" site many times (actually in Battlement Mesa, CO) and somewhere around 2008-2010 they came and did an exploratory drill to check on the formation. Surprise, surprise! Still too radioactive! Who'd-a-thunk?! Rediculous idea. I was just a little boy when they detonated and the dishes in our kitchen shook 45 miles away in Grand Junction, CO. 1970 or '71 I think. Didn't know one day I'd be working up there when I was 40 something! Lol!
Love these old government videos - Seems simple enough, use a nuclear explosion to stimulate gas and oil production which did work in theory. The main drawback: the natural gas and oil stays radioactive! xo
Gee, I can't imagine why this didn't catch on.....
just dont let trump see these films ugh..... we will be hearing its a perfect well....with perfect radiation
Some people say this test is the cause of cattle mutilation in that area - the aim was to study long term effects ... but since that would have had some bad press, they blamed it on the aliens! Trump also like blaming things on aliens, I heard.
I always hear a loud, raspy movie projector in my head when I watch films like this. :)
I wish there was a way to add the hum & clank of those reel-to-reel projectors.
Occasional warbling of the sound with image flutter was another characteristic I recall from watching "AV Labs" type films, which was sometimes comical
Cinema didn't have such sounds..
Right here in Colorado. The well caps are sufficiently remote that they make for interesting day trips / hikes. There are small markers on the sites.
3 Projects; Gasbuggy, Rulison, Rio Blanco. All were met with questionable efficacy, as well as irradiated gas which posed a problem to get safe. All were eventually plugged shortly after producing. An interesting use, and at least they tried. Plus hydraulic fracturing technologies were also improving at this time. Fracking is much older than people think.
Yeah, we got two of those test sites right here in Colorado. Oh shit, the gas that comes out of a nuke-blasted gas well turns out to be radioactive. Who knew? How inconvenient! So they put up signs saying, "Don't dig or drill here for 10,000 years" and walked away. Nice.
The Russians were more successful. Their blasted wells still produce oil.
Gee. The announcer sounds so calm and reassuring. Must be wonderful !
AWESOMELY wonderful !
Nifty peachy keen even.
3:35 - Those who beat their swords into plowshares will end up plowing for those who don't.
How did they not know the gas would be radioactive and unusable?
I read that the radioactivity was 1% of background by 1970. Unfortunately, by then, nobody wanted a product with any radioactivity.
They knew.
How anyone thought this would be a good idea Idea is beyond me - as if putting lead into petrol/gasoline wasn't bad enough.
I love that they're talking about collecting water in their nuke hole.
The phrase, "Don't piss in my face, & tell me it's raining" springs to mind here.
I've just realised, there's more footage of some of these crazy experiments, in Peter Kurans "Atomic journeys" documentary.
I get the feeling the guys behind these ideas didn't know that much about how nuclear weapons work. Sure you'll get a nice big void after the bomb detonates underground, too bad it'll be coated in radioactive waste. The idea of storing water in them actually made me chuckle.
Scientist knew damnwell how insane this was but those checks were good I guess.
Underground tunnel to volcano to release volcanic pressure and pipe into shoreline to form Island or new land.
Shows how much of a cavalier Attitude we had.
US Troops were exposed to open Air, Atomic, and even Hydrogen Bomb tests, before underground testing.
In the eternal conflict between the concerns over global warming with fossil fuels and the concerns over radiation and nuclear weapons proliferation someone asked the question no one was asking: "What solution would had the worst of both worlds?"
I have part of accelerometer, which contains two ferrite pot cores and coils, first used for measurement of free-field particle motion from a nuclear explosion in salt. Its been sealed in clear resin and mounted of solid metal stand. I have been told its to do with the Project 12-11 Salmon 5kt october 22 1964.
Gee is there anything a nuclear bomb can't do ?
Make the middle east intelligent again?
It can't love
I'm surprised they didn't try to nuking garbage to reduce landfills? But maybe it will just be blowing the garbage all over the place in the mushroom cloud.
ACTUAL FACT HERE!!! A college back east made the proposition of using an air burst nuke over the plastic islands in both oceans !!! USARMY CORPs of dodos is investigating it now !!!
Landfill CAN be used again, after being nuked...not really.
i was trying to think up a super ridiculous thing to nuke and thought trash dump -
a minute later i see your comment - lol - great minds think alike
Ignorance, greed and insanity all mixed into one hellish idea.
Project Gasbuggy didn't go as planned. Instead of fracking the rock, they created an underground cavern with solid walls as they melted the rock. Think of a lightbulb underground. I used to drive past the Gasbuggy site near Dulce, NM and knew a number of people who worked on the project. Same thing with Project Gnome near Carlsbad, NM - that one didn't work either. And then there's Amchitka Island in the Aleutians where they nearly cracked the island in half attempting to make a harbor with a single nuclear detonation. In fact, I have a hard bound book commissioned by the AEC and produced by the engineering firm I worked for that documents the remediation of the island after the test.
Amchitka wasn't a Plowshare detonation for a harbor; it was an underground test of a five megaton warhead for the Nike Zeus... They had wanted to test it in the continental US, north of the Nevada Test Site at Tonopah, Nevada, but a 1 megaton underground test shot there ended up creating a huge subsidence zone and a 6 foot high scarp where the entire valley floor sank 6 feet after the detonation. SO they decided to test it at Amchitka. Raised the entire island and surrounding seafloor by 25 feet. There's footage of the drilling and excavation of the test chamber underground and the resulting detonation in Peter Kuran's "Atomic Journeys" DVD, some of which is right here on TH-cam... OL J R :)
What a time to be alive! None of this sissy environmental shit, just "how can this shit benefit man."
I love it.
Radioactive natural gas piped directly to your house ! What a wonderful idea ! 😂😂😂
And nuclear gasolline in our cars! Vroom! Vroooom!
I really like how they conveniently leave out the residual radioactivity bit. With the "new" drilling going on relatively near where the blasts were carried out makes me wonder if the recently drilled gas/oil could carry any residual radiation along with it.
That's an interesting question. Presumably the government monitors activity around this site -- but if you watch the excellent film "Atomic Journeys" by Peter Kuran you will see that at least one of the Gas Buggy sites is pretty much not gated off or concealed in any way. Natural gas is often naturally radioactive but of course any gas coming out of this particular site would likely by far hotter!
As I understand it, these reservoirs can truly be vast. As a previous comment noted, a contractor lost a Americium rod out the back of his truck. It was supposed to be handled carefully with special procedures in place that obviously werent followed. It's not too far of a leap for an operator some hundred miles away to start piping contaminated gas/oil and not follow procedure. Kind of scary when you think about it. I almost want to get a Geiger counter. Speculation aside, my inner conspiracy voice says they knew exactly what would happen. They just needed a guise to continue weapons testing.
If your both right then we're all screwed!
Radon is a common radioactive gas found in american homes and kills about 20,000 per yr.
The rock really doesn't have great conductivity for any type of material. Over geological timescales, sure, material from the blast can migrate significant distances. Plus natural gas is already somewhat radioactive especially from radon, which is not removed in commercial applications.
The best idea I ever heard.
Nuclear fracking! I love it!
A good idea to apply to off-Earth mining and Earth-threatening asteroids.
sure radioactive oil great idea
Brought to you by the same people who brought you The Salton Sea !!! And nuclear testing 500 miles off the coast of San Diego then calling it an east-west earthquake !!!
"Eminent Domain", for nuke-produced "storage caverns", begins at 6 feet under your house...
These are the sort of scientist we trust
LOL
It's not the scientists who are dubious. They're all about the science and learning. It's the ones who employ their services in order to commercially manipulate it to their own ends.
This is so awesome... I wish the economics had worked out...
fascinating, excellent write-up in the description
Just human greed. Huge companies wanting more and more. They have no idea what the consequences could be, even with conventional explosives.
From the same folks that brought you nuclear testing within 500 miles of a heavily populated city[San Diego-operation wigwam 1956]
Miss Las Vegas, or wasn't it heavy enough for you?
@@puncheex2 Simultaneous triggering of thermonuclearweapons, at
Off San Diego, vegas
@@uberkloden Where do you think "Simultaneous triggering of thermonuclear weapons, at/Off San Diego, vegas" may have occurred? There were none such as far as I know.
Damn, this is nuts...
Well......it sounded good.👍
"Government - Private Industry endeavor"; aka Federally subsidized Private Industry profiteering, aka corporate welfare...
(to paraphrase: "I am the Federal Government, and I'm here to help...")
For the glory of all humanity.
They're bonkers. Very.
Everything that comes out of the hole will be irradiated, useless and dangerous to the public.
Ken Karnes i was thinking the same thing. Didnt they already know this?
yea, radioactive gas :P
Wether the crude product is irradiated, the refining process would separate any dangerous material from the gas, which I don't think can carry radiation.
EDIT: Turns out that radon, a radioactive gas byproduct of uranium and thorium decomposition, is common in shale oil deposits.
So radiation is already a common issue in energy production, this method is obviously not helpful in that arena.
Vlad The Inhaler also there is a lot of neutron activity in there, the nuclear transmutations are very complex and the underground is just as complex. Besides radon, deuterium, tritium, thorium, there are many more radioisotopes being born in the well and not only contaminating the gas or crude but also changing the chemistry in there and surroundings.
The fractured crust is, then again, another serious isue with very, very, very long term impact.
Here's the report into the radioactivity in the gas. If the claims are true, they were somehow able to control the generation of radioactive isotopes in the nuclear blast, there was almost no Cesium-137 or Stontium-90 generated, the most abundant isotopes they detected all had a half-life of 58 days or less except for some Krypton-85 (half-life 10 years) and Tritium (half-life 12.3 years). They detected 0.012 to 1.16 micro-curies per liter of Tritium, the EPA limit in drinking water is 0.02 micro-curies per liter. So it clearly exceeded the EPA's limit. So while exceeding stringent limits, it wasn't hopping with radioactivity.
www.osti.gov/servlets/purl/4007203
I'm surprised at this, I thought they would have detected boat loads of Cesium-137 or Stontium-90, that it would have been far more radioactive. These claims seem to be confirmed by Project Gnome, a 3.1 kiloton atomic explosion detonated in a layer of salt in 1961. People were able to enter the cavity created by the nuclear blast 6 months later, after it cooled down, without lethal danger from radioactivity.
th-cam.com/video/DFJ2MyWlXgs/w-d-xo.html
Also, neutron irradiation should make the surrounding rock radioactive, but what is the half life of Silicon and Oxygen? (sandstone / quartz).
I think Silicon-31 might be generated from natural Silicon-30 (3% of natural silicon) by absorbing one neutron, but it has a half life of just 157 minutes. Silicon-31 decays into Phosphorous-31, which is not radioactive. Oxygen-19 might be generated in tiny amounts if the rare natural isotope Oxygen-18 absorbs a neutron, but it has a half life of only 26.5 seconds, and it decays to non-radioactive Fluorine-19.
This all seems very alarming, how was they all so cool performing all these tests?
It's very interesting. The Gasbuggy obviously was made with crematory oven ash and hence yield overstated vs truth. The plan obviously involved already the use of the pressure to fusion the human ash into "more fuel", the result isn't presented but the coming of the Rulison (ruly son, legal, without gas) indicates that certainly was it a 77% failure.
Atoms for peace!
Someone just needs to find a way to capture the gas from a Taco Bell restroom and our energy problem would be solved!
Adam Winters it's the same gas too
Adam Winters ,using the wife's TH-cam account and I'm reminded that if I could bottle her natural gas,we could fuel at least a mission to mars...sorry hunny,..lol..but I've done the math.
Pumping carcinogens into the ground will only result in carcinogens in your house
Wouldn’t the nuclear detonation ignite the gas, thus depleting the field ? Plus wouldn’t the gas be radiated ?
I didn't know gasometers were used for natural gas.
could be an intro to a Fallout game.
In just a blink of an eye, we could be in a Fallout
$350k per bomb? I want one.
Great idea. Scientists are polluting quick
I am just an electrician (not a nuclear engineer). and so might not fully understand, but wouldn’t the oil and gas obtained via atomic explosions described, wouldn’t it all be radioactive?
Seems burning radioactive natural gas in my home’s gas-fired furnace or water heater is a bad idea.
Yes! If you watch the film to its end - they basically indicate the gas obtained was radioactive.
At time mark 7:50 white hardhat A grebe , aardvark and corkscrew , why are they on his hardhat???.
Interesting observation. I guess we will never know as the Marlboros this guy probably smoked killed him long ago.
I saw that too.
How did that go for them?
cool radioactive gas vented directly into our homes , thanks big oil
18:20 Yeah, So You Nuke A Hole Underground, And They Understand It Gives Off Radiation. You Telling Me The Oil, Gas, And Water Stored In Them Didnt Get Contaminated?
Lol...nuclear "fracking*...
So, would the Cylons be interested in this technology I wonder..?
Nuclear fracking of shale oil and natural gas. What could possibly go wrong? "Er, lads, we're running out of justification for our nuclear weapons production budget. Anyone got any ideas? Can someone translate that for Tebor please?..."
'Atoms for Peace' is correctly pronounced 'Nuclear Diplomacy'. Think about it.
I think Germany could use these useful tips these days ;)
Imagine if they still frac like this
2 of everyone’s favorite things .. like peanut butter and chocolate.. you got your crude oil in my atomic waste ....life is funny
Radioactive is why this didn't catch on.
Madnesss...MRS nuclear reeactor would ELIMINATE all fossil fuels.
Austral was a venture capital firm, but it's real purpose was a tax right off to super wealthy, exploration cost were deductible under federal law and you could avoid paying taxes on 6 to 10 million a year if you were a Austral shareholder. An't capitalism grand!
yes capitalism grand is grand... But we have not had true capitalism in a while in the US and it was gone before this. What you describe is not capitalism and is actually crony capitalism.
j james There was never true capitalism or communism because neither system is possible (even if they were desirable) with human nature being what it is.
Indeed. Subsidies, tax exemptions, and all "public-private" partnerships are socialist political tactics, not capitalist methods. Funny how so many people hate those things, yet they hate capitalism and idolize socialism; smh.
Thank you Edward Teller for entering the US in the world Darwin Awards! LOL
no wonder we have sinkholes forming all over the place !!
sink holes are caused by underground water washing the soft soils away, after time it can no longer support itself and collapses. normally caused by rain water or poor drainage in urban areas... the water washes off concrete/tarmac to one point then goes under ground sometimes causing the same affect as rain water.
More BANG for the BUCK !!!
Creepy!
gee I wonder what could go wrong with this? lol
My biggest concern is the fact that the first time they did do their test how much it blew up into the other shell Oil and other stuff it hit the water table to I bet it's probably contaminated water table and there being very ignorant about it and the fact that they knew they went to big of an explosion and their second test they wanted to double it how incredibly ignorant that is
It's in the middle of nowhere in NM. There is no "water table" as such in that area. It's high desert, extremely arid with little if any water available. But, you, having impressive 20:20 hindsight, have it all figure out...
Almost as ignorant as not using proper punctuation when writing! OL J R :)
So...I wonder if this was tested
Oh. It was
Yes, three sites... Gasbuggy in New Mexico, and Rulison and Rio Blanco in SW Colorado near Rifle. OL J R :)
So now I know why radon is leaking into my basement.
la cartella ponfa, dentro cui c'era il mondo ... non sarete niente e sarete felici, perchè sotto al bel vestito ci sarà un fantasma ... sorride il fantasma, si diverte un mondo, è finalmente libero da questa vita di cattiveria, fisica ... l'ufficietto con l'operatore, che non ti vede non ti sente, si tappa le orecchie poi gli occhi come mr. scimmia ... se tu fai, così, io ti prendo e ti faccio sparire proprio ... poi, vado da chi ha stretto mani sporche, infarto ... poi! tu nella tua oasi di tranquillità eri al top, fracking ... ti devi bere acqua gialla come in africa. ma non è mica finita qui sai, cosa credevi di restare sulla mappa per molto. se c'è un vulcano erutta, e poi pulisci pure ... la roccia nera, magmatica, come la rupes nigra, ovvero terraformare ... poi vediamo che ci fai col mondo così siffatto a mano di dio ... dio ha fatto proprio una brutta fine dietro le quinte, e il gioco è finito. adesso si diventa veramente civilizzati, ci si crede davvero, può dover convenire proprio ... facciamo si che la control room della mente non deve continuare a risultare? bene, ma bene, complimentoni ... però il gioco lo cambiamo allora, certe cose simpatiche finiscono qui ... prossimo passo ti dico subito: non esisterete e sarete felici. neanche respiriani o fantasmi, non esistere proprio.
Now we in the uk face the threat of fracking and we are told how fab it's going to be by our govt. Meanwhile communities everywhere are rising up. Wondering what's in the explosives they would use to fracture rock today?
+Julie Daniels We are led to believe that conventional explosives (RDX, C4 etc) are used in present times, to 'Frack' - *But* the issue arises when residues of substances used in modern processes, seep into our water-tables - but there is very little to no attention given to fault-lines being displaced, resulting in unforeseen seismic activity and the opening of new channels that may (will) cause the aforementioned residues to reach natural water sources underground, and on the surface..
they don't use explosives actually - the process inject high pressure water with very potent chemicals added into rock strata with trapped gas bubbles. - it should be known though that fracking has apparently caused major problems and is concept that is not well tested at all. - also just blowing cracks in rocks would also potentially release things like hydrogen sulfide, carbon monoxide and various other dangerous pollutants from there.
Kevin Miedema Thanks for that. I was unclear about the nature of 'Fracking' when I commented. Using nukes isn't any less damaging down the line, than process of modern fracking
Instead of soft rocky oil they can blast carbon, well that would become enriched carbon. Anyways I wounder what happens when a nuke detonation that takes place in these conditions , where the material given to the explosion is suppossed to burn until the neutron cycle ends and the detonation underground is sorrounded by hard anough rock to restrain the energy reaction to explode away, does it turns into heat as in a reactor or the chain reaction simply exhausts itself.
LOL:) Energy has to come from somewhere... I guess the alternative is better and yall can freeze to death over the winter. Stupid envirowhackos... OL J R :)
Even for its time back then by their own showing anybody can see this is would have devastating effects to our planet and our health.
Everything produced or stored would be radioactive.
Everyone freaking out because these are terrible ideas only know that because these tests were conducted in the first place
radioactive oil I put that shot in everything.
Wow, the safe version to do fracking.
D Duckman They dumped liquid radioactive waste down the well.
I swear they are brilliant and dumb at the same time. They figured out how to do it, but failed to think of what will happen to all of that radiation. I mean everything in the blast zone will be hot for years
so anyway, they started blasting...
actually this technology might be usefull as long as the right precautions and surveys are used. It would rely on a much smaller, and relatievely well contained amount of waste - which all other options couldn't deliver without net more damage and waste - nukes are very good at packing lots of energy into a tiny package. That being said, we should as a race be responsible enough to optimally use our resources and not exploit and deplete them in the way we are currently doing - nukes should never be used as a easy way to accelerate this.and take that '60s optimism with a pinch of salt...
no just no !
This people had a Flaw Money was their lord
And you thought radon in your basement was bad.
unbelievable. People actually think this is sustainable ??
That's the most irresponsible bullshit I ever saw in my life.
Should watch the movie Crack In The World🌍
And now we just have Fox News.
Radioactive gas
lol they never talked about the radiation in the gas lol
C. McClanahan , a LITTLE radiation is good for you !!! 😂😂😂
Poor earth
So in the words of our President we should.... "trust the science".....huh...well may be...
Newman motor, problem solved... oh wait patent office corruption hahaha the occult conglomerate has that covered.
My bum farts stink.
Oh goody! Who created these abominations?
Who cares, they're making money which is of paramount importance!
The whole idea was nixed pretty quickly,
Ha ha ha they wanted to store things like water then use it. A drink yo your health.
The only storage application I know of was for natural gas, and that was in the Soviet Union.
yikes...