So I forgot to mention something in the unfair comparisons. The cards are also a part of the main gameplay loop. Saying "they stole the cards" is kinda dumb. I'd say the Minus cards are way more complex and interesting than the DW cards. 7:22 Someone pointed this out but I did not mean to say Minus, that was meant to say Dandy's World. My bad!!!!!
As a dandy world and minus elevation fan ( I got all toons in dandy’s world and all items in ME) I would say Dw did not copy ME they are similar but def not a copy. i still like ME more since I played it for a year straight lol
Yeah! I've played minus elevation sinve 2 years ago, and wich dandy's world also did unique stuff with the cards!! Their one of my favorite parts of the two games!!!
Dandy's World is just a game apart of the genre 'Complete these tasks before the monsters get you' games. Legit Flee the facility is one of those games, having you fix computers while not trying to die.
@@shurificate Honestly they probably used to be on par (though im not too familiar with the ME community) but the DW community degraded so fast that by now id be surprised if it isn't 20 times worse than ME's
i didnt even know Minus Elevation even existed, i call dandy's world a mix between a rouge like and dead by daylight with ai controlling the twisted lol
I myself actually a dw fan surprising or not played the game and I rly like it The energy bar is like a stamina for almost every active items that requires it (excluding plushies). It cannot be restored normally and can only be regained by either picking "button zap" or "floor bonus". They can also be overloaded showing a purple bar when overfilled.This can only be access by again picking cards and regular energy doesn't interact with overload energy ever,only functioning as it's own thing. This also works for stamina having an orange bar instead of yellow,this is easier to access than overload energy bcus of soda cap and cribblefruit. Basically stamina works as an essential for active items.
There's also floors such as the scraps shop with its event alternatives,obbies and a rare room where it gives a passive support item for free (I've encountered it many times in solo and I might say it's not that rare tbh)
from a old minus elevation player - im happy with dandys world AND minus elevation. dandys world is fine to me. so thank you for listening! (note: i quit like a year ago, should i come back?)
one thing about the minus community is that they are extremely chill, unless you're a fan-game/inspired game. Then you're getting nothing but harassment (looks at depth spelunking and addition abstraction)
They may be similar, but a copy? It is not. DW takes inspiration from games like Dead By Daylight and has its own mechanics and ideas. It's not a copy if only one thing or two are similar! Imagine how many games would be considered copies because they had the same ideas or concepts.. too many.
this might not be related to the video much but the first time i tried playing minus elevation my tiny pea brain exploded because of how complex it is- like how do y'all just first time play the game for awhile and then make a video about it?? I'm not being rude or anything im just impressed by how fast y'all can learn teach me your ways also even for my first experience minus elevation was hella more complex and different from dandy's world that's for sure
coming from a long time m.e player all i gotta say is that it'll get more complicated from here honestly all i really suggest is that you try to play it more often, i kinda learned by myself lol alot of stuff to worry about but all of that becomes easy when you know how to deal with it
IN MY OWN OPINION: M.E is such an underrated game. Sure its really complex; but once you get the hang of it- its REALLY FUN.. except the stamina bro 😭 I play DW too; but it doesnt really give me that sort of spark that MD/ME did tbh. ( yes i have 4/5 mains, 2 vintage ) Honestly; the game REALLY needs a revive.. its so underrated..
Reallll it has so much variety from items to maps to entities to easter eggs to seasonal events and to gamenights and no devs are known for being WEIRD
i feel like DW is just a more laid back game instead of the more fast paced/complex(?) version (minus elevation), mostly relying on stealth like minus descendance (also underrated game btw) instead of just a carbon copy of minus which is more focused on running away from monsters anyway both games have their own special things so i dont think its a copy, more of just a game that uses the “minus elevation” genre or smth like that idk
You wanna know the main reason I think Dandy's World got more popular than Minus Elevation? Ive never played the latter so my opinion will obviously be a bit skewed, but I think the biggest reason is that Dandy's World just has more personality to it. The toons, while lacking unique animations for a few things, are still extremely expressive and have distinct personalites, which isn't really something you can say for a game where you play as your avatar. The best you can do to give a roblox avatar personality is to let them make their own decisions, otherwise you're just putting words in a player's mouth that they may not agree with. Besides, this type of game doesn't lend itself to dialogue choices anyway, so the devs kind of had their hands tied in that regard. Another major reason, as stupid as its gonna sound, is that Dandy's World is a MASCOT horror game, not just a horror game. Having a character to associate the game with for players seeing the game for the first time likely gives them hope, since many mascot horror games were blowing up a few years back. From what I can tell, without unique characters that aren't the monsters, minus elevation doesn't have one core character to associate the game with. Put simply, Minus Elevation is a less marketable game than Dandy's World.
if you ever played dandys world, minus elevation (I have not played me) this situation is somewhat familiar to that "MuSe DaSh RiPoFf", there's no need to even say that. check the game's description, it might say " inspired by myself dash
Here's some information on the power system: Some items require power to use. For example, the camera can be used to stun entities for a short period of time for the cost of power. This causes you to be careful and sparing with your abilities because you can't regenerate power without special upgrades to the elevator _(e.g.. Button Sap or Floor Bonus)_ OR by having other specific items such as plushies. Now here's a massive rant, my apologies. While I do understand Minus Elevation is quite complicated, it can be extremely fun when you get the hang of it. I also respect Dandy's World as a game. I've played it with friends and it can be quite fun. However, I wont lie, I'm kind of gotten sick of hearing about DW. I'm really tired of joining ME just to see people complaining about DW. It hurts to have a game you love turn to chaos because some other game 'copied'. Everyone can have their opinions, but please ME players, can you just not mention DW for 5 seconds? ME and DW are different. Yes one was inspired by the other, but you don't have to point it out in the middle of the lobby when no one even mentioned a single word about Dandy's World. Sorry for the massive rant, but in conclusion, both games have their own aspects which make them unique. There is proof that DW was inspired by ME but inspiration is different from copying _(One of the first things I said to my friends when they showed me Dandy's World was "Oh, this is sort of like Minus Elevation!" They only knew about Minus Decendance so they thought I was joking LOL)._ If you don't like Dandy's World or Minus Elevation, that's okay, you can have your own opinions. If you don't agree with what someone is saying, you can either RESPECTFULLY express your opinion without causing drama _(Please do not act like a Twitter user)_ or you can just not say anything.
Well the rox document it says that rox admited that he took stuff of minus elevation like the voting and research system the other things are more original but HE still didn't wanted to credit them for the ideas so yeah i think they should credit them
I have not seen anyone complain about this witouth being annoying/pushy, they always keep talking and talking not trying to understand the other side and just getting mad in the process. Already puts a bad taste of minus elevation into my mouth.
@@hotsauce6014i mean. The creator of m.e. kinda disliked the game herself too, ppl in the discord server mostly hates dandy's world for stealing their spotlights
I like how most people that know this situation is just saying “they don’t own the genre” “the toons are original” “it’s not like it’s a crime” well the problem is that there is 10+ similarities to they should atleast give credit, and before you say “ThE oWnEr Of Dw DoEsNt KnOw WhAt MiNuS eLeVaTiOn Is” that’s just a obvious lie. Imagine I stole pressure and copied lots of mechanics that make the game unique and got more visits and didn’t even give credit I could literally just say “oh I don’t know what pressure is” S.M.H.
Good opinion. But in my opinion, the "finish tasks while avoiding monsters" genre was underrated and no one knew about it. And dandy's world used it and when it became popular, so did the genre. But its just my opinion so no hate
I tried playing Minus Elevation the other day and my gameplay knowledge DOES NOT transfer well. Different from how Pressure clicked in my head after knowing how to play Doors
@@verticalboosts if they made an copy of dandy's world from minus elevation, the devs wouldn't have put "inspired by dandy's world" because it's the original one. They basically took some ideas for them that's why it's said "inspired by"
@@verticalboosts bro are you stupid- (not to be rude) can you read twice???? Like omfg. I said "if it was an copy of dandys world, the developers will put inspired by minus elevation" because it was the ORIGINAL one. Which im saying, the original would be minus elevation but not dandy's world. Because they put "inspired by minus elevation " which means they copied the game, but with permission. And they made the mechanics,items,tasks,monsters different from dandy's world. SO CAN YOU PLEASE STOP COMMENTING WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING??? LIKE BRO I ALREADY MADE IT SO CLEARLY-
@@verticalboosts bro.. can you read twice please? Can someone explain. This guy is giving me brainrot because he dosent understand what "inspired by" means
I love them both equally! except for the grinding ☹️ at least minus elevation allows you to get basically all normal shop items within like 4 hours of play
Dandy’s World Mechanics interaction and characters have a similar connection to regretevator npc’s istg Also I think Dandy’s World was heavily inspired by OSC in my headcanons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! though cause like objects having humanoid body and shrimpo and fanny having the same nearlyyyy the personality
lemmie explain the power mechanic in minus elevation. For one the electric icon isn’t for the flashlight it is used for active items which makes them limited use without certain upgrades. I hope this helps!
Another thing to mention is when your seen by a monster in minus elevation they don’t stay on you for a set time, when you break line of sight then they go to the last area they saw you and then go back to free roam. When I first played dandy’s world I wished it worked like that but now I see how suspenseful it can be which I love!
There’s something that actually has the most common sense to actually think about. People think that dandy world is still a copy of minus elevation or dead by daylight, but then no one ever thinks about how that they’re probably over hundreds of copies of different versions of sold RNG, bloxy fruits, the strongest battlegrounds, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT. I don’t see why people are just severely complaining, like as if they probably don’t play those games severely.
I’m more decendance than elevation. When I looked back I completely understand why it’s more like just waiting simulator. I haven’t tried elevation more once in a lifetime, just looking the play through I was like damn. This one has more potential unfortunately.
there’s a lot more going on for the copy thing that requires a bit of research. they do not say minus elevation is an inspiration and mention they never played it, this is a lie, they both have played it. not only that the first teaser was released a few days i think like 21 after the first time they mentioned minus elevation. which while looking at it it’s not much of a copy and it feels more of inspired by minus elevation, calling it a clone makes sense once you look into it.
@@verticalboosts as a person who has everything in both games I think they should atleast give credit I mean I don’t think luffy diddles kids unlike rox
i dont think blushcrunch copied minus elevation maybe they got inspiration off that game and wanted to make one just like minus elevation and thays where they created dandy's world with that said i can declare that dandy's world is not a knockoff of minus elevation but a inspiration from another game.
Let me be clear *Becomes a glass*, out of jokes though, i honestly do believe they are inspired and somewhat similar off of eachother, though take this with a grain of salt, as someone who played Minus Elevation back when it was minus descendance (literally like 3 years ago) this is my opinion: The games are similar in some ways, but way different in others. And their gameplay loop is also really different. IMO, Minus Elevation deserves being revived, HOWEVER, it also deserves the devs to fix where it lacks. DW (No way decaying winter okay okay jokes aside fr this time (i am lying)) did really well with the machine and skill checks, but imo lacks a lot on the monsters, specially the mains, all they do usually is give you debuffs and thats it, Minus Elevation sins feel a lot more fleshed out than DW's main twisteds, hell even NORMAL enemies feel more fleshed out than DW's twisteds. The trinkets in Minus Elevation also do the job of toon abilities sometimes, which is fun, i say, both games are good, but DW is better, and sadly, ML community, as much as i liked the game before, the devs need to improve it, if they do, it can actually rival DW, until then though, both r good games ggwp ez ez goodbye chat *EXPLODES* also wooddawood this ain't meant to sound like hostile or offensive but i think having your roblox avatar as you talk isn't exactly the best thing it looks cheap (TO ME) i cannot draw either and i know videomaking is hard but i hope you get to make a more interesting avatar (if you want, and also others may like this its just in my opinion.) =3 PD: Make cards more interesting in DW please devs please i'm STARVING for it (and maybe make special floors like in ML? It could be following too closely but getting some free items/tapes and perhaps a somewhat different objective seems fun, could also use it to explain some lore parts maybe.) Anyways the DW community is mentally unwell and belongs in an asylum (me included i have problems they're just outside of DW)
now that you've played minus elevation, you should reallyy go play minus decendence if you haven't already (it's the first game made by the same developer(s) as minus elevation, development has stopped on it but it's still amazing!!)
My verdict on this is that DW is not an original game whatsoever. It is literally Dead by Daylight tasks in Minus Elevation. Whilst both games are inspired by DbD mechanics, Minus Elevation was very original and innovated the mechanics far more than DW. But that’s not entirely a bad thing. DW clearly has different aesthetics and a slightly different load-out system I do like the idea of dead by daylight inspired games such as ME and DW. Even if the originality falls off with the mechanics - the slight differences this person points out do make different personalities of the games. These inspired games lead on to further inspired games and can potentially produce similar games that are a lot better. I have seen another game (I forgot the name) which recently had an open game test (now closed) - where it was a literal copy of ME. Just a few quick among us style tasks and literally the same looking maps and entities. Literally a new person could play the game and still think it’s ME. So there are a lot worse copycats out there. So whilst DW isn’t original in its mechanics in any significant way. It’s small differences are enough that it should be embraced rather than forgotten. Though it should not be seen as groundbreaking as ME is.
Dandys world makes you play as a toon, Minus elevation let’s you keep your Ava, Dandy’s world has “twisteds” from ichor. Minus elevation has “beasts” from who knows where.
EXACTLY ITS NOT LIKE MINUS ELEVATION sure the research thing machines but minus elevation don't have abilities, btw you don't play as your Roblox avatar in Dandys world you play as different toons like?? also first
you can take items which are basically the same as Toon's abilities (passive upgrades to your runs) and not playing as your Roblox avatar is just cosmetic
fr you can literally choose abilities that have more of a purpose than dandys world half of the abilities dont change much of the core ganeplay most if the time
i dont get why people call games a clone. i do get why people would use other games to explain macanics to new players but i wouldint really think similer macanics would mean its a clone. (also sorry if my wording is bad D:)
I liked your gameplay. And thank you for explaining the differences about the two games. That should clear out their minds a little more for everyone who has trouble understanding. Also don’t worry you were not wrong about the maps 👍 I look forward to more gameplay like these if it ever happens lol
5:58 The power system, or what I assume is the Battery meter you are trying to say, is a meter that is used for ability items that require Battery to be used like Tesla coil for example. However, battery doesn’t passively recharge and only recharges theough upgrades in your run. Not much to say a it’s concept and in-practice versions re pretty simple.
1:25 BRO WDYM YOU DONT NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT THE MONSTERS ARE LITERALLY THE CHARACTERS WITH RED EYES Minus elevation may have a white hand monster and a moai but it atleast tries to create an actual monster and not a goofy .exe version of the character
Just want to point out, i dont really think saying "if DW didnt have this, then bad game" is a fair comparison? What im trying to say is you should probably compare the mechanics and designs of the monsters in ME and DW instead of flat out saying "if DW didnt have it, bad game" Spider takes inspiration from Piggy and has the same sort of Monster, however has vastly different mechanics which makes people not call Spider a clone Oh and also im not really trying to disprove your point of DW not being a clone, i dont even play either of the games Edit: made a mistake here, people do call Spider a clone, however its not flatout hated by the community (bad explanation i know but i dont know how to phrase it in any other way sorry lmao)
Wait is minus elevator part of a genre cause i’ve never heard of a game other than ME and DW where you descend down an elevator after choosing a thing that gives you an advantage and/or disadvantage and have to do a number of the same objectives whilst surviving from various monsters where a handful of them are more important to the lore than others and theres stuff you choose from in the elevator nearly every floor edit: also dandys world machines is just minus descendance/elevation’s button except they made it a minute long so that they get premium payouts
Even I'm a little iffy on it, but I've started to see some other games take this same formula and apply it to their game. So I just decided to call it a genre at this point
I really hope you make a Foster's Sanctuary or Hoplas video because those are two topics barely talked about sadly. One of them being a overly hated fangame and the other one well being the other one.
ah yes i love the fact that ppl say one game copy this game just because there some stuff that same like the game is like you saying like this "OmG RobLoX copy MineCraft because roblox have avatar designer" and dw more begginer friendly than m.e
Cant cope getting oneshotted + needs 3 shields every round + needs to receive 1 dmg every attack otherwise its hard + you have 100 hp so you would need 100 hits "minus elevation is hard and complex" Maybe learn to avoid the monster and not get seen?
I get what you're saying and thats its an example but as DW and Pressure fan, there's obviously alot of things different from Doors and Pressure other than there being a shop around the middle of the run, the badge showcasing in lobbies, the genre itself and Angler lol
So called Nerds, say its a Rainbow Friends or Minus Elevation ripoff Which is false bc they're mad that Dandy's World got really popular without major issues
I haven’t played dandy’s world yet and I’m a huge minus elevation fan and I don’t really see how dandy’s world copied the game. There’s a bunch of games like minus elevation where you just do stuff before you get killed, like I think baldía basics revamped?? And possibly maybe doors.
4:49 maybe it’s because i played the game a lot but no it’s not the items aren’t fucking rare and i think diddy’s world stamina is worse because i only carry 3 items
@@wooddawood I forget, but the original i remembered was a lot of narrow corridors pressing buttons, there was a map in a platform where you press buttons a certain set of buttons in randomly generated maps, you can also collect pages which i assumed were for learning about the entities in the game. I remembered playing this a lot. you could also but upgrades to make the map show where entities are or players as permanent upgrades, increasing the oxygen meter, the power meter, etc.
I prefer to stay neutral I think DW has a terrible community they constantly fight each other and harass anyone for not being “good enough” but then take any other big game with a big community they probably run into the same problem realistically speaking all communities are bad as they’re going to have people who ruin them
bros the type of person who says "minus elevation is complex and hard" after getting oneshotted Cause of dandy world instead giving you 3 forcefields every round and making enemys deal 1 dmg every attack and you having 100 hp
@ nah I think it’s actually pretty balanced you have to make mistakes to get killed but honestly minus elevation is a better community vs DW you’re the type of person to say that dw sucks because you don’t die instantly and you aren’t fast af (not that I care for either)
@@noahthesk the game isnt bad to be honest but it is a ripoff with gambling Also im pretty sure the "characters" feature is literally the items shop feature
@@noahthesk also im not saying its bad cause its way too easy What im trying to say is that dandy world fans say its "hard and complex" when its actually not Mostly cause they get oneshotted by monsters (atleast from my pov)
Difference is that while Piggy has the same genre as Piggy, it has literally nothing more in common other than some old ass skins with a similar dress lmao
This game Is good but the bad Is that there aren't "characters" with special abilities for this the game will be boring Idea for the next video: can you do a skin shop theory video when exemple you do theory about the update date skin and price.... :3
It is just not made for you to play as a lot of different characters it does have a lot of items you can buy from tho. I would say luffy did a good job making the game
So I forgot to mention something in the unfair comparisons.
The cards are also a part of the main gameplay loop. Saying "they stole the cards" is kinda dumb. I'd say the Minus cards are way more complex and interesting than the DW cards.
7:22 Someone pointed this out but I did not mean to say Minus, that was meant to say Dandy's World. My bad!!!!!
@@wooddawood Crazy shocker, but.. cards aren't exclusive to Minus Elevation 😨
As a dandy world and minus elevation fan ( I got all toons in dandy’s world and all items in ME) I would say Dw did not copy ME they are similar but def not a copy. i still like ME more since I played it for a year straight lol
Yeah! I've played minus elevation sinve 2 years ago, and wich dandy's world also did unique stuff with the cards!! Their one of my favorite parts of the two games!!!
how do you guys even play? i die trying to learn the game and i get bullied for it by minus fans
@@hdrlovescheese well learning to play is easy but learning everything is hard
Dandy's World is just a game apart of the genre 'Complete these tasks before the monsters get you' games. Legit Flee the facility is one of those games, having you fix computers while not trying to die.
ah yes, flee the facility
Do you go down a elevator and go levels and have every 10 stages a boss fight level?
“I hate both communities equally” has to be one of the best neutral takes ever
I in fact do ( I like both games but hate their community’s )
Yeah both community's suck tbh
in my opinion the minus elevation community is pretty chill (don't flame me for this)
@@shurificate Honestly they probably used to be on par (though im not too familiar with the ME community) but the DW community degraded so fast that by now id be surprised if it isn't 20 times worse than ME's
@@CocoaChris917 the larger the community is the more bound to be horrific it is
i didnt even know Minus Elevation even existed, i call dandy's world a mix between a rouge like and dead by daylight with ai controlling the twisted lol
I mean, dandy's world can be also called sort of rouge like
Fr
More of a rogue lite but yeah basically
I myself actually a dw fan surprising or not played the game and I rly like it
The energy bar is like a stamina for almost every active items that requires it (excluding plushies). It cannot be restored normally and can only be regained by either picking "button zap" or "floor bonus".
They can also be overloaded showing a purple bar when overfilled.This can only be access by again picking cards and regular energy doesn't interact with overload energy ever,only functioning as it's own thing.
This also works for stamina having an orange bar instead of yellow,this is easier to access than overload energy bcus of soda cap and cribblefruit.
Basically stamina works as an essential for active items.
There's also floors such as the scraps shop with its event alternatives,obbies and a rare room where it gives a passive support item for free (I've encountered it many times in solo and I might say it's not that rare tbh)
These are the free floors I only know so far
I've seen my brother saying that dandy is a rainbow friends ripoff 💀
Help what💀
Dandy is blue confirmed
@@Gallaghersimp goob is green
@@portyfcraft1812
pebble is orange
whos purple amd yellow then
from a old minus elevation player - im happy with dandys world AND minus elevation. dandys world is fine to me. so thank you for listening! (note: i quit like a year ago, should i come back?)
one thing about the minus community is that they are extremely chill, unless you're a fan-game/inspired game. Then you're getting nothing but harassment (looks at depth spelunking and addition abstraction)
They may be similar, but a copy? It is not. DW takes inspiration from games like Dead By Daylight and has its own mechanics and ideas. It's not a copy if only one thing or two are similar! Imagine how many games would be considered copies because they had the same ideas or concepts.. too many.
Exactly, it's like saying Sonic The Hedgehog 1 is a copy of Super Mario Bros 1 because they are both platformers
@@GoldolorTheKartKid Or you jump on enemies in both games.. it doesn't make sense
I semi agree but they should at very least credit the original creators
@@doggiedadevoriginal creators? Of minus? They didn’t copy the idea tho….you don’t see any shooters crediting whatever the first FPS was.
Yes, I've learned that Rox took ideas from Minus Elevation, but he refuses to credit them.
this might not be related to the video much but the first time i tried playing minus elevation my tiny pea brain exploded because of how complex it is- like how do y'all just first time play the game for awhile and then make a video about it?? I'm not being rude or anything im just impressed by how fast y'all can learn teach me your ways
also even for my first experience minus elevation was hella more complex and different from dandy's world that's for sure
I have no idea. I think I have some sort of super power that lets me learn how games work at a really fast pace.
there’s a tutorial coming whenever idk
coming from a long time m.e player all i gotta say is that it'll get more complicated from here
honestly all i really suggest is that you try to play it more often, i kinda learned by myself lol
alot of stuff to worry about but all of that becomes easy when you know how to deal with it
for me I played minus decendence before minus elevation existed, so I knew most of the entity’s
We just built different frfr
IN MY OWN OPINION:
M.E is such an underrated game. Sure its really complex; but once you get the hang of it- its REALLY FUN.. except the stamina bro 😭 I play DW too; but it doesnt really give me that sort of spark that MD/ME did tbh. ( yes i have 4/5 mains, 2 vintage ) Honestly; the game REALLY needs a revive.. its so underrated..
@@odrannoelespulgar3623 IKR
Reallll it has so much variety from items to maps to entities to easter eggs to seasonal events and to gamenights and no devs are known for being WEIRD
Rox literally admitted to getting ideas from minus elevation. How do people still think theres no connection
I never said there was no connection. But people saying it's a straight copy are wrong. Getting an idea from a game is how games form.
Indeed it is, but not crediting is a little odd in my opinion
@@bbruh2018 very true
i can’t say i’m shocked
Then that's called inspiration.
Guys, I think brookhaven is a copy of Berry Avenue
Edit: I think every game is a copy of another game now
Y'all I think piggy is a copy of granny 🤯
(Joke)
Guys I think fnf is a copy of piano tiles
Broskies i think animal crossing is a copy of berry avenue
I think regretavator is a copy of doors👍👍👍👍👍👍
gays i think Willy's Wonderland is a copy of Freddy Fazbear's pizzeria
Only major difference is ones made by a groomer
Hmmm I wonder who 🤔
Duck adam? This is cyberhaptics cummonity get ou-
@@someweirdasslookinbunny3697I do wonder too.. 😶
w e k n o w
I low-key wonder which one🤔🤔
i feel like DW is just a more laid back game instead of the more fast paced/complex(?) version (minus elevation), mostly relying on stealth like minus descendance (also underrated game btw) instead of just a carbon copy of minus which is more focused on running away from monsters anyway both games have their own special things so i dont think its a copy, more of just a game that uses the “minus elevation” genre or smth like that idk
You wanna know the main reason I think Dandy's World got more popular than Minus Elevation? Ive never played the latter so my opinion will obviously be a bit skewed, but I think the biggest reason is that Dandy's World just has more personality to it. The toons, while lacking unique animations for a few things, are still extremely expressive and have distinct personalites, which isn't really something you can say for a game where you play as your avatar. The best you can do to give a roblox avatar personality is to let them make their own decisions, otherwise you're just putting words in a player's mouth that they may not agree with. Besides, this type of game doesn't lend itself to dialogue choices anyway, so the devs kind of had their hands tied in that regard.
Another major reason, as stupid as its gonna sound, is that Dandy's World is a MASCOT horror game, not just a horror game. Having a character to associate the game with for players seeing the game for the first time likely gives them hope, since many mascot horror games were blowing up a few years back. From what I can tell, without unique characters that aren't the monsters, minus elevation doesn't have one core character to associate the game with. Put simply, Minus Elevation is a less marketable game than Dandy's World.
“has more personality” 💔
let’s be honest it’s the kiddish nature of
Not only that, but I'm pretty sure that it's way easier to play Dandy's World for the first time than Minus Elevation.
just the DW community... *i dont wanna talk about it* 💀
@@AmyLove325 decaying winger
As a “professional” delver in minus elevation and mediocre Tooner in Dandy’s world, I approve every point made.
It's not like minus elevation but has the same idea
Doing a objective
Get down floors
if you ever played dandys world, minus elevation (I have not played me) this situation is somewhat familiar to that "MuSe DaSh RiPoFf", there's no need to even say that. check the game's description, it might say " inspired by myself dash
But dandy’s world doesn’t say inspired by ME
@@doggiedadev DAMN
if anything, id say dandys world is just a combination of dead by daylight and minus elevation
Here's some information on the power system:
Some items require power to use. For example, the camera can be used to stun entities for a short period of time for the cost of power. This causes you to be careful and sparing with your abilities because you can't regenerate power without special upgrades to the elevator _(e.g.. Button Sap or Floor Bonus)_ OR by having other specific items such as plushies.
Now here's a massive rant, my apologies.
While I do understand Minus Elevation is quite complicated, it can be extremely fun when you get the hang of it. I also respect Dandy's World as a game. I've played it with friends and it can be quite fun. However, I wont lie, I'm kind of gotten sick of hearing about DW. I'm really tired of joining ME just to see people complaining about DW. It hurts to have a game you love turn to chaos because some other game 'copied'. Everyone can have their opinions, but please ME players, can you just not mention DW for 5 seconds? ME and DW are different. Yes one was inspired by the other, but you don't have to point it out in the middle of the lobby when no one even mentioned a single word about Dandy's World.
Sorry for the massive rant, but in conclusion, both games have their own aspects which make them unique. There is proof that DW was inspired by ME but inspiration is different from copying _(One of the first things I said to my friends when they showed me Dandy's World was "Oh, this is sort of like Minus Elevation!" They only knew about Minus Decendance so they thought I was joking LOL)._ If you don't like Dandy's World or Minus Elevation, that's okay, you can have your own opinions. If you don't agree with what someone is saying, you can either RESPECTFULLY express your opinion without causing drama _(Please do not act like a Twitter user)_ or you can just not say anything.
Well the rox document it says that rox admited that he took stuff of minus elevation like the voting and research system the other things are more original but HE still didn't wanted to credit them for the ideas so yeah i think they should credit them
He def should atleast credit them if he took stuff from it. But I’m probably just biased towards ME tho.
@@wafeeqibraheem2928 He took ideas of the game not much difference but still they should credit them
Yeah I agree. It could resolve some of the drama.
I definitely judged quickly. You are a great representative for the game and you made amazing points that have given me a new perspective!
I have not seen anyone complain about this witouth being annoying/pushy,
they always keep talking and talking not trying to understand the other side and just getting mad in the process.
Already puts a bad taste of minus elevation into my mouth.
The main reason why the elevation community is upset is because minus elevation is stuck at 10-50 players while dandy's world has 10-40k
@@hotsauce6014 to be fair, I'd be pissed off too if some mascot horror game stole all my potential players.
@@hotsauce6014i mean. The creator of m.e. kinda disliked the game herself too, ppl in the discord server mostly hates dandy's world for stealing their spotlights
Mostly about the fact that the codev is a predator
@@A.Turnip tbh, no one even knew about Minus elevation until DW got popular and ME players got all whiny and huffy about it
honestly saying u hate both communities equally is so real, even knowning that dw's community is calmer than other ones
I like how most people that know this situation is just saying “they don’t own the genre” “the toons are original” “it’s not like it’s a crime” well the problem is that there is 10+ similarities to they should atleast give credit, and before you say “ThE oWnEr Of Dw DoEsNt KnOw WhAt MiNuS eLeVaTiOn Is” that’s just a obvious lie. Imagine I stole pressure and copied lots of mechanics that make the game unique and got more visits and didn’t even give credit I could literally just say “oh I don’t know what pressure is” S.M.H.
Good opinion. But in my opinion, the "finish tasks while avoiding monsters" genre was underrated and no one knew about it. And dandy's world used it and when it became popular, so did the genre. But its just my opinion so no hate
I bet you someone is gonna reply to this with "Pressure is a Doors copy" 😭
"og/nostalgic" players getting angry at a game because it slightly has a similarity with an og-themed game while being born in 2018 :
Dandy world players when getting oneshot by a monster instead of receiving 0.1 dmg and having 3 shields every round:
"TOO HARD AND COMPLEX"
6:24 that’s just an understatement, you never want to truly see what the community can do…
goob x scraps r34…
@@tacoo0c4t NO- **disapears**
@@tacoo0c4t THIS IS WHY I HAVE A EVIL SIDE-
5:56 there’s no punishment for using flash light so theees no reason to not use it
I tried playing Minus Elevation the other day and my gameplay knowledge DOES NOT transfer well. Different from how Pressure clicked in my head after knowing how to play Doors
Either way if it was an "copy" made game, they wouldnt have put "INSPIRED BY MINUS ELEVATION" 😔✋
what does this mean
@@verticalboosts if they made an copy of dandy's world from minus elevation, the devs wouldn't have put "inspired by dandy's world" because it's the original one. They basically took some ideas for them that's why it's said "inspired by"
@@PersonalMountain sandy’s world never raaid inspired by minus
@@verticalboosts bro are you stupid- (not to be rude) can you read twice???? Like omfg. I said "if it was an copy of dandys world, the developers will put inspired by minus elevation" because it was the ORIGINAL one. Which im saying, the original would be minus elevation but not dandy's world. Because they put "inspired by minus elevation " which means they copied the game, but with permission. And they made the mechanics,items,tasks,monsters different from dandy's world. SO CAN YOU PLEASE STOP COMMENTING WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING??? LIKE BRO I ALREADY MADE IT SO CLEARLY-
@@verticalboosts bro.. can you read twice please? Can someone explain. This guy is giving me brainrot because he dosent understand what "inspired by" means
They should at very least credit the game
Read the dandy's world description
Oh wait nvm
Lol
@@KevinMendy-wz4bv ye sadly minus elevation doesn’t get the recognition it derserves sob
I think dandy’s world is a clone, but the thing is my main point is the research system which is quite literally the same.
I love them both equally! except for the grinding ☹️
at least minus elevation allows you to get basically all normal shop items within like 4 hours of play
Dandy’s World Mechanics interaction and characters have a similar connection to regretevator npc’s istg
Also I think Dandy’s World was heavily inspired by OSC in my headcanons!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! though cause like objects having humanoid body and shrimpo and fanny having the same nearlyyyy the personality
To be fair descending elevator games are somewhat few and rare even though it’s general theme is survival
Love the Jukes Towers of Hell soundtrack played in the background!
lemmie explain the power mechanic in minus elevation. For one the electric icon isn’t for the flashlight it is used for active items which makes them limited use without certain upgrades. I hope this helps!
Another thing to mention is when your seen by a monster in minus elevation they don’t stay on you for a set time, when you break line of sight then they go to the last area they saw you and then go back to free roam. When I first played dandy’s world I wished it worked like that but now I see how suspenseful it can be which I love!
There’s something that actually has the most common sense to actually think about.
People think that dandy world is still a copy of minus elevation or dead by daylight, but then no one ever thinks about how that they’re probably over hundreds of copies of different versions of sold RNG, bloxy fruits, the strongest battlegrounds, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT.
I don’t see why people are just severely complaining, like as if they probably don’t play those games severely.
7:47 please make minus elevation content bro the game is peak
I’m more decendance than elevation. When I looked back I completely understand why it’s more like just waiting simulator. I haven’t tried elevation more once in a lifetime, just looking the play through I was like damn. This one has more potential unfortunately.
there’s a lot more going on for the copy thing that requires a bit of research. they do not say minus elevation is an inspiration and mention they never played it, this is a lie, they both have played it. not only that the first teaser was released a few days i think like 21 after the first time they mentioned minus elevation. which while looking at it it’s not much of a copy and it feels more of inspired by minus elevation, calling it a clone makes sense once you look into it.
Nah
@@Savi1704 you didn’t even try to debunk it u just said nah😭
@@verticalboosts as a person who has everything in both games I think they should atleast give credit I mean I don’t think luffy diddles kids unlike rox
@@wafeeqibraheem2928 gang it’s lukki
@@Savi1704 this is the reason i hate youtube comment sections
i dont think blushcrunch copied minus elevation maybe they got inspiration off that game and wanted to make one just like minus elevation and thays where they created dandy's world with that said i can declare that dandy's world is not a knockoff of minus elevation but a inspiration from another game.
Hey. Gotta give credit where its due, atleast the dev team didnt diddle kids
Let me be clear *Becomes a glass*, out of jokes though, i honestly do believe they are inspired and somewhat similar off of eachother, though take this with a grain of salt, as someone who played Minus Elevation back when it was minus descendance (literally like 3 years ago) this is my opinion: The games are similar in some ways, but way different in others. And their gameplay loop is also really different. IMO, Minus Elevation deserves being revived, HOWEVER, it also deserves the devs to fix where it lacks. DW (No way decaying winter okay okay jokes aside fr this time (i am lying)) did really well with the machine and skill checks, but imo lacks a lot on the monsters, specially the mains, all they do usually is give you debuffs and thats it, Minus Elevation sins feel a lot more fleshed out than DW's main twisteds, hell even NORMAL enemies feel more fleshed out than DW's twisteds. The trinkets in Minus Elevation also do the job of toon abilities sometimes, which is fun, i say, both games are good, but DW is better, and sadly, ML community, as much as i liked the game before, the devs need to improve it, if they do, it can actually rival DW, until then though, both r good games ggwp ez ez goodbye chat *EXPLODES* also wooddawood this ain't meant to sound like hostile or offensive but i think having your roblox avatar as you talk isn't exactly the best thing it looks cheap (TO ME) i cannot draw either and i know videomaking is hard but i hope you get to make a more interesting avatar (if you want, and also others may like this its just in my opinion.) =3
PD: Make cards more interesting in DW please devs please i'm STARVING for it (and maybe make special floors like in ML? It could be following too closely but getting some free items/tapes and perhaps a somewhat different objective seems fun, could also use it to explain some lore parts maybe.)
Anyways the DW community is mentally unwell and belongs in an asylum (me included i have problems they're just outside of DW)
thanks for the dandys world community compliment really appreciate it (im going insane)
I also thought it was they had simillar stuff when i first played DW, lol, nice video WeedDaWeed
now that you've played minus elevation, you should reallyy go play minus decendence if you haven't already
(it's the first game made by the same developer(s) as minus elevation, development has stopped on it but it's still amazing!!)
phighting players do be enjoy8ng dw
1:34 if DW didn't have any monsters, then distractors wouldn't exist
My verdict on this is that DW is not an original game whatsoever. It is literally Dead by Daylight tasks in Minus Elevation. Whilst both games are inspired by DbD mechanics, Minus Elevation was very original and innovated the mechanics far more than DW.
But that’s not entirely a bad thing. DW clearly has different aesthetics and a slightly different load-out system
I do like the idea of dead by daylight inspired games such as ME and DW. Even if the originality falls off with the mechanics - the slight differences this person points out do make different personalities of the games. These inspired games lead on to further inspired games and can potentially produce similar games that are a lot better.
I have seen another game (I forgot the name) which recently had an open game test (now closed) - where it was a literal copy of ME. Just a few quick among us style tasks and literally the same looking maps and entities. Literally a new person could play the game and still think it’s ME. So there are a lot worse copycats out there.
So whilst DW isn’t original in its mechanics in any significant way. It’s small differences are enough that it should be embraced rather than forgotten. Though it should not be seen as groundbreaking as ME is.
I believe that game you forgot the name of is Depth Spelunking. I also saw it while it was up.
@@wooddawood that was it - that was such a massive copy compared to DW
I THOUGHT DANDY WORLD LOOKS LIKE SONIC.EXE DISASTER-
Wood why were you pulling out a gun every few seconds
Slime Boi is american, he owns at least 1,578 guns
@@wooddawood OH DAYUMN
...
"WHAT TF IS A KILOMETEERRRRR!1!!1!" Ahh slime boi
Kilometer its a 1000 meters
Dandys world makes you play as a toon,
Minus elevation let’s you keep your Ava,
Dandy’s world has “twisteds” from ichor.
Minus elevation has “beasts” from who knows where.
Not all entities know where you are, More 1% of them.
The power system is used for active trinkets for example the camera which stuns and give 10% research on what you hit
EXACTLY ITS NOT LIKE MINUS ELEVATION sure the research thing machines but minus elevation don't have abilities, btw you don't play as your Roblox avatar in Dandys world you play as different toons like??
also first
you can take items which are basically the same as Toon's abilities (passive upgrades to your runs) and not playing as your Roblox avatar is just cosmetic
fr you can literally choose abilities that have more of a purpose than dandys world half of the abilities dont change much of the core ganeplay most if the time
Hot take but... Mascot = Roblox character Roblox character = Mascot
hope someone doesnt start a war about minus decendace and minus elvation
If dandys world is a rip off of minus elevation then very elevator game is a ripoff of the normal elevator
“The elevator: source” in question
i dont get why people call games a clone. i do get why people would use other games to explain macanics to new players but i wouldint really think similer macanics would mean its a clone.
(also sorry if my wording is bad D:)
I liked your gameplay. And thank you for explaining the differences about the two games. That should clear out their minds a little more for everyone who has trouble understanding. Also don’t worry you were not wrong about the maps 👍 I look forward to more gameplay like these if it ever happens lol
5:58
The power system, or what I assume is the Battery meter you are trying to say, is a meter that is used for ability items that require Battery to be used like Tesla coil for example. However, battery doesn’t passively recharge and only recharges theough upgrades in your run. Not much to say a it’s concept and in-practice versions re pretty simple.
minus elevation fans when i pull up with plus demotion:
1:25 BRO WDYM YOU DONT NEED TO TALK ABOUT IT
THE MONSTERS ARE LITERALLY THE CHARACTERS WITH RED EYES
Minus elevation may have a white hand monster and a moai but it atleast tries to create an actual monster
and not a goofy .exe version of the character
i mean, they are similar in some ways, but not a clone.
7:22 : MINUS IS A BAD CLONE!!!
Minus : I Came out first?
Omg thank you for pointing that out I did not mean to say that!
That was meant to say Dandy's World not Minus!
the power system in MInus Ele is for items! some items requiere battery to use a certain item
Just want to point out, i dont really think saying "if DW didnt have this, then bad game" is a fair comparison? What im trying to say is you should probably compare the mechanics and designs of the monsters in ME and DW instead of flat out saying "if DW didnt have it, bad game"
Spider takes inspiration from Piggy and has the same sort of Monster, however has vastly different mechanics which makes people not call Spider a clone
Oh and also im not really trying to disprove your point of DW not being a clone, i dont even play either of the games
Edit: made a mistake here, people do call Spider a clone, however its not flatout hated by the community (bad explanation i know but i dont know how to phrase it in any other way sorry lmao)
Wait is minus elevator part of a genre cause i’ve never heard of a game other than ME and DW where you descend down an elevator after choosing a thing that gives you an advantage and/or disadvantage and have to do a number of the same objectives whilst surviving from various monsters where a handful of them are more important to the lore than others and theres stuff you choose from in the elevator nearly every floor
edit: also dandys world machines is just minus descendance/elevation’s button except they made it a minute long so that they get premium payouts
Even I'm a little iffy on it, but I've started to see some other games take this same formula and apply it to their game. So I just decided to call it a genre at this point
@@wooddawood makes sense, most of those are inspired by dandys world tho
but the devs played the game and the game came out like a few days after they played minus elevation if i recall. idk but sounds suspicious
but anyways i don’t rlly care
They got inspired
@@Jewreeeeyeah but they keep lying about it
I really hope you make a Foster's Sanctuary or Hoplas video because those are two topics barely talked about sadly. One of them being a overly hated fangame and the other one well being the other one.
STOP MAKING DAMN FIGHTS ABOUT A GAME COPYING THE OTHER ITS ACTUALLY GETTING SICK RN.
I used to call dandy’s world a minus elevation and called it bad now I have 2 mains😔
ah yes i love the fact that ppl say one game copy this game just because there some stuff that same like the game
is like you saying like this "OmG RobLoX copy MineCraft because roblox have avatar designer"
and dw more begginer friendly than m.e
Cant cope getting oneshotted + needs 3 shields every round + needs to receive 1 dmg every attack otherwise its hard + you have 100 hp so you would need 100 hits
"minus elevation is hard and complex"
Maybe learn to avoid the monster and not get seen?
In short: they have similarities and differences, but dandy's world is INSPIRED by minus elevation. not copied.
@@Jewreeee the main thing is no credits tho
"OmG GuyS [shooting game] Is a RiPOFf oF arSENal"
Dandy's World is a clone doors
Whats with the random word at the end
Followin that logic,Pressure is a Doors ripoff
I get what you're saying and thats its an example but as DW and Pressure fan, there's obviously alot of things different from Doors and Pressure other than there being a shop around the middle of the run, the badge showcasing in lobbies, the genre itself and Angler lol
They should collab
So called Nerds, say its a Rainbow Friends or Minus Elevation ripoff
Which is false bc they're mad that Dandy's World got really popular without major issues
"NOOOO a mascot horror game got popular that's so CRINGE i HATE mascot horror i need to hate on it NOWWW" 🥺🥺🥺
Atleast we can avoid monsters without needing 3 forcefields every match and receiving 1 dmg per attack and having 100 hp
"Minus elevation is Hard and complex" skill issue
@ThiagoAlfaro-ns7eh 3 Forcefields?
You mean 3 Hearts....
@@ThiagoAlfaro-ns7eh also don't be problematic dawg.
Ngl This video is just a bunch of dandy’s world glaze and non-arguements
honestly i’d fw dandy’s world if they credited minus elevation
I haven’t played dandy’s world yet and I’m a huge minus elevation fan and I don’t really see how dandy’s world copied the game. There’s a bunch of games like minus elevation where you just do stuff before you get killed, like I think baldía basics revamped?? And possibly maybe doors.
Doors doenst have anything to do in genre with either of them as someone who's played both DW and ME lmao
Regardless The gameplay from what I’ve seen is really simlar and I guess they also used stock sound effects or samples
4:29 also imo pressing buttons is better because it doesn’t make the game take so fucking long to play the damn game
@@verticalboosts True that is my main issue in dandy’s world
ya’ll can’t wait like 50 seconds??
@@randomspades5227 no
@@randomspades5227 game takes long time to get to f20 but in minus ur at f50 in an hour
bro went straight to combat initiation xd 5:53
song is challenger i think so
Short Answer: No
slightly longer but still short answer: No, but both are inspired by Dead by Daylight.
i think one is
Its like the popular elevator games! Its just a genre?
4:49 maybe it’s because i played the game a lot but no it’s not the items aren’t fucking rare and i think diddy’s world stamina is worse because i only carry 3 items
I mean its not a clone
But its still about the same thing
6:06 active items in the lobby
why are people saying its a rip off tf?
also wait where’s the map in the platform- this isnt minus decendence in the footage?
This is Minus Elevation. I assume descendance is similar?
@@wooddawood I forget, but the original i remembered was a lot of narrow corridors pressing buttons, there was a map in a platform where you press buttons a certain set of buttons in randomly generated maps, you can also collect pages which i assumed were for learning about the entities in the game. I remembered playing this a lot. you could also but upgrades to make the map show where entities are or players as permanent upgrades, increasing the oxygen meter, the power meter, etc.
@@wooddawood but also thanks for telling me this is minus elevation
6:45 u not wrong the community starting telling me to use the meta when i said soda cap is peak
Guys, Garten Of BanBan copied Poppy Playtime it confirmed!!!!!
Is kind of true tho
I prefer to stay neutral I think DW has a terrible community they constantly fight each other and harass anyone for not being “good enough” but then take any other big game with a big community they probably run into the same problem realistically speaking all communities are bad as they’re going to have people who ruin them
bros the type of person who says "minus elevation is complex and hard" after getting oneshotted
Cause of dandy world instead giving you 3 forcefields every round and making enemys deal 1 dmg every attack and you having 100 hp
@ nah I think it’s actually pretty balanced you have to make mistakes to get killed but honestly minus elevation is a better community vs DW you’re the type of person to say that dw sucks because you don’t die instantly and you aren’t fast af (not that I care for either)
@@noahthesk theres videos of builds you know?
And even then you can still just main camera and then get a plushie and use plushie
@@noahthesk the game isnt bad to be honest but it is a ripoff with gambling
Also im pretty sure the "characters" feature is literally the items shop feature
@@noahthesk also im not saying its bad cause its way too easy
What im trying to say is that dandy world fans say its "hard and complex" when its actually not
Mostly cause they get oneshotted by monsters (atleast from my pov)
by the logic of dandy’s world is a copy, piggy is a copy of granny (completely false)
Difference is that while Piggy has the same genre as Piggy, it has literally nothing more in common other than some old ass skins with a similar dress lmao
This game Is good but the bad Is that there aren't "characters" with special abilities for this the game will be boring
Idea for the next video: can you do a skin shop theory video when exemple you do theory about the update date skin and price.... :3
Honestly, I think i'd just rather wait for the update instead of putting on high expectations
@@wooddawoodokey :3
It is just not made for you to play as a lot of different characters it does have a lot of items you can buy from tho. I would say luffy did a good job making the game
geek
I ran into you in item asylum
5:33 theyre rare so idk i don’t think so
what song is this in 0:10 ?
It's in the description, but here's the link to the song just to make the search a little faster! th-cam.com/video/OX7nqAXUxZQ/w-d-xo.html
I like minus elevation