Props to the camera operator standing out there in the rain! Great vid and advice… hit the shots bcos what’s good for one wedge might not suit the next in your set.
I have MG3 and MG4’s awesome wedges. Great video on wedge fittings, especially on choosing which bounce and grind options based on playing conditions and club delivery
I use my 54 and 58 degree wedges off the fairway on full shots, so I stick with a 8* bounce . If I need more bounce on chips and in the sand, I'll open the face which increases the bounce in soft sand and green side if needed.
Definitely some myths being out out by the fitter. Better players tend to hit wedges lower with controlling skin. Plenty of your players use the leading edge instead of the bounce. Jordan Spieth being one of them. His short game is kind of good. Having an average golfer using the bounce is usually a recipe for disaster without a change to the swing. The clubhead will pass the hands, the club will "bounce" off if the ground and they will skull the ball Be very careful with generalized information because it can bring on it's own set of issues. At the end of the day you need to match the wedge to the swing and not the reverse unless you are making a change to technique
Hi Hannah Great to see you working on getting your wedge set up perfect👍, it seems the more you learn the more difficult it is to get the best specs, ie lofts & bounce etc. the weather keeps changing spring, summer, winter🥶, Thanks Hannah your wedge Videos are my go to watch, Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer (now 8.2)
The thing is, this is the 4th or 5th wedge fitting video I have seen for Hannah, and every one of them seems like her "fit" is different than the last. Variances with the individual fitter, and with the design of the club manufacturer, I am sure. But the point is, after seeing them in total, what wedge/bounce/grind actually fits? And if there's no real concrete answer for somebody with the access to be fit for all of them, how do we hackers have a hope of finding the right combination?
I would say the two I have had this year with TM and Edel have been fairly similar. My last one was back in 2021, it was different but my technique has definitely changed!
I have 46, 50 and 54 deg wedges plus an old, old Ping Tour 60 that comes out in bunkers and deep doggy doo. The 46 and 50 are stock standard, part of the fitted set, but the 54 has wide sole and 14deg of bounce. The fitter told me that everyone on my course needs plenty of bounce. Horses for courses?
Don't really understand the statement at 6:28 - It's not an universal truth imho. I switched to a 4 degree bounce 58 this year coming from a 12, and find it excellent on wet bunkers. Probably the difference is the extreme grind on it (it's a Mizuno S23 - X) that slices through like a knife, and my shallower swing compared to Hannah's. I think the video is excellent for Hannah's myths, but not for everyone's.
I'd like to replace my 4 year old Mizuno wedges, as they're worn, but I'm afraid of making a wrong choice in grinds and bounce. I'd love to be able to experiment on a course with a knowledgeable fitter.
Loved this video, where can I go to get a fitting like this? Currently got 46, 52, 56 and 60 but constantly frustrated that 52s only seem to come in full grinds these days, I'd like something with heel and toe relief that doesn't paying a fortune for a custom grind as I like to get a bit versatile with the 52 around the green but still want a decent amount of bounce.
Irons usually play at 04° - 08° "Effective Bounce" in Mid to Short Irons. This is actually more due to the Shape of the Sole of the Iron. So the "Grind" and the Length of the Sole's Depth - the Leading Edge back to the Trailing Edge of the Sole. Titleist stopped stating "Bounce Angle" in their Iron Specifications a few years ago.
hi toe raw 58/10 I use 85 and in... love it!! my 54 is 14 bounce for rough/sand, my troubles come when I find my ball on hard pan/mud when it can skip into the forehead. ;0(
Its a myth created by phil mickelson followers , anything more lofted than 56 is a waste , the real shame is nearly all 56 dgrees come with 12 degrees of bounce 🤦🏻 why ??? 08 on a 50/52/54 and 08 on 58/60 so why plonk 12 on a 56 ? Ninety percent of players go into bunkers with a 60 so its cant be just to help sand shots , i just dont get it . I grind all my wedges on a belt sander until i can open them up without the leading edge lifting , that leaves just the 5 on my 56 . I can open that up and hit skyward or flight it lower with no problem . Knowing where the bounce is at is important in all wedge shots .
This is what I ended up with: MG4 Chrome 48 9 bounce MG4 Chrome 54 11 bounce MG4 Chrome 60 SBC 9 bounce I wouldn't say it was high bounce just higher than the 4 I was using!
Amateur high handicapper guy here. Bounce raises the face. Cant stand that. Sabotage. Give me a sharp and low face on every club. Line drive ball from a wedge over the green and into the woods is not my want.
That's because you struggle with producing correct impact. As long as you aren't playing on rock hard surfaces then a little higher bounce helps most people. When you get better impact you will appreciate the bounce a little more
@@paulwags662 Afraid not. I need a sharp edge to fit it under the ball. Yes, same as on hard ground. Bounce is like super tall strings on a guitar. It sabotages. Bounce can work in sand, LOOSE sand or tall grass. Usually traps are firm and hard. Why then no bounce on a driver? Because you must get under the ball every time. Enjoy your bounce, not for me.
I do know how to do that - I literally hit some of those shots in this video 🤣 he is just saying my standard shot is coming out too low and I shouldn't have to open it up so much to get the extra height with the loft I have.
how's that crazy..90% of shots should be with a wedge where u make solid/flat contact unless u are behind a bunker...bump and run...Don't LET ego mishandle ur game..SHe would save 5 strokes a round with a chipr@@jrbackhousegolf
@@giomusah2155We all would, but what fun would that be? I wanna try a Phil high flop to a foot, and then when I skull it across the green, it gives me an excuse to take another swig of blue label
You listed Justin Thomas and Patrick Reed. I can understand the one, but I feel the other was listed because he likes fluff the ball. If I’m wrong I apologize.
Props to the camera operator standing out there in the rain! Great vid and advice… hit the shots bcos what’s good for one wedge might not suit the next in your set.
Thank you😂
Props to Hannah for hosting in the rain as well
I have MG3 and MG4’s awesome wedges. Great video on wedge fittings, especially on choosing which bounce and grind options based on playing conditions and club delivery
Thank you!!
I use my 54 and 58 degree wedges off the fairway on full shots, so I stick with a 8* bounce . If I need more bounce on chips and in the sand, I'll open the face which increases the bounce in soft sand and green side if needed.
Definitely some myths being out out by the fitter. Better players tend to hit wedges lower with controlling skin.
Plenty of your players use the leading edge instead of the bounce. Jordan Spieth being one of them. His short game is kind of good.
Having an average golfer using the bounce is usually a recipe for disaster without a change to the swing. The clubhead will pass the hands, the club will "bounce" off if the ground and they will skull the ball
Be very careful with generalized information because it can bring on it's own set of issues.
At the end of the day you need to match the wedge to the swing and not the reverse unless you are making a change to technique
Food for thought - great video
Very informative. I have very little bounce on my 60. I may need to change my thinking.
The best thing I ever did was going to a 3 wedge setup. Pw 44, gap 49 and a sw at 56 degrees.
Very interesting video, I myself have a low bounce 60 for the same reasons, maybe a change is required...
thanks for such great informative vid Hannah
Excellent fitter, very easy to understand.
I agree!
Very informative. Guess what I’ll be doing early next year?!? Thanks Hannah!
wedge fitting!
Hi Hannah Great to see you working on getting your wedge set up perfect👍, it seems the more you learn the more difficult it is to get the best specs, ie lofts & bounce etc. the weather keeps changing spring, summer, winter🥶, Thanks Hannah your wedge Videos are my go to watch, Dickey 9hcp 76year senior golfer (now 8.2)
The thing is, this is the 4th or 5th wedge fitting video I have seen for Hannah, and every one of them seems like her "fit" is different than the last. Variances with the individual fitter, and with the design of the club manufacturer, I am sure. But the point is, after seeing them in total, what wedge/bounce/grind actually fits? And if there's no real concrete answer for somebody with the access to be fit for all of them, how do we hackers have a hope of finding the right combination?
I would say the two I have had this year with TM and Edel have been fairly similar. My last one was back in 2021, it was different but my technique has definitely changed!
Very informative, thanks and well done for dealing with the weather
@@timdench2583 the weather was certainly interesting 🤣
lookin really good lately hannah, whatever yer doing keep doin it
Great, very interesting 🎉
Thank you!!
I have 46, 50 and 54 deg wedges plus an old, old Ping Tour 60 that comes out in bunkers and deep doggy doo. The 46 and 50 are stock standard, part of the fitted set, but the 54 has wide sole and 14deg of bounce. The fitter told me that everyone on my course needs plenty of bounce. Horses for courses?
Bounce and grind can massively be affected by type of golf course. If you play a softer could you can use much more bounce generally than a firmer one
Don't really understand the statement at 6:28 - It's not an universal truth imho. I switched to a 4 degree bounce 58 this year coming from a 12, and find it excellent on wet bunkers. Probably the difference is the extreme grind on it (it's a Mizuno S23 - X) that slices through like a knife, and my shallower swing compared to Hannah's. I think the video is excellent for Hannah's myths, but not for everyone's.
I'd like to replace my 4 year old Mizuno wedges, as they're worn, but I'm afraid of making a wrong choice in grinds and bounce. I'd love to be able to experiment on a course with a knowledgeable fitter.
I would definitely enquire with some different brands and see what fittings they have available! Where are you based?
@@hannahholdenNCG I'm in the US. In Alabama.
Loved this video, where can I go to get a fitting like this? Currently got 46, 52, 56 and 60 but constantly frustrated that 52s only seem to come in full grinds these days, I'd like something with heel and toe relief that doesn't paying a fortune for a custom grind as I like to get a bit versatile with the 52 around the green but still want a decent amount of bounce.
Are you UK-based? If so you can book with Jasper here: thegolftailor.com/products/book-a-fitting
@@hannahholdenNCG brilliant, cheers, I'll have a look!
One comment and one question. What is the typical amount of bounce on a mid or short iron? Then, this video focuses more on bounce than grind.
Irons usually play at 04° - 08° "Effective Bounce" in Mid to Short Irons. This is actually more due to the Shape of the Sole of the Iron.
So the "Grind" and the Length of the Sole's Depth - the Leading Edge back to the Trailing Edge of the Sole.
Titleist stopped stating "Bounce Angle" in their Iron Specifications a few years ago.
@@apaulmcdonough2170 thanks for the info, appreciated!
Very informative !
hi toe raw 58/10 I use 85 and in... love it!! my 54 is 14 bounce for rough/sand, my troubles come when I find my ball on hard pan/mud when it can skip into the forehead. ;0(
Its a myth created by phil mickelson followers , anything more lofted than 56 is a waste , the real shame is nearly all 56 dgrees come with 12 degrees of bounce 🤦🏻 why ???
08 on a 50/52/54 and 08 on 58/60 so why plonk 12 on a 56 ? Ninety percent of players go into bunkers with a 60 so its cant be just to help sand shots , i just dont get it .
I grind all my wedges on a belt sander until i can open them up without the leading edge lifting , that leaves just the 5 on my 56 .
I can open that up and hit skyward or flight it lower with no problem .
Knowing where the bounce is at is important in all wedge shots .
Delightful Yorkshire weather 😬
We were in Lancashire for this which says it all 👀👀👀
If you play summer links golf then get rid of the high bounce wedges
Fittings work for every club in the bag. Simples.
Absolutely!!
Did this fitting address your ‘links’ turf dilemma?
Yeah at 8:00
give us the number on the bounce. not just high or low.
This is what I ended up with:
MG4 Chrome 48 9 bounce
MG4 Chrome 54 11 bounce
MG4 Chrome 60 SBC 9 bounce
I wouldn't say it was high bounce just higher than the 4 I was using!
Absolutely brilliant! We need more of this! I'm familiar with bounce but together with grind I'm clueless!! 🐊🏌⛳️🦅🇺🇸❤️
Does anybody make a wedge that hits the shot by itself? That’s the only way I’m ever gonna get close……
😂😂😂 that would be nice wouldn’t it!
Amateur high handicapper guy here. Bounce raises the face. Cant stand that. Sabotage. Give me a sharp and low face on every club. Line drive ball from a wedge over the green and into the woods is not my want.
That's because you struggle with producing correct impact. As long as you aren't playing on rock hard surfaces then a little higher bounce helps most people.
When you get better impact you will appreciate the bounce a little more
@@paulwags662 Afraid not. I need a sharp edge to fit it under the ball. Yes, same as on hard ground. Bounce is like super tall strings on a guitar. It sabotages. Bounce can work in sand, LOOSE sand or tall grass. Usually traps are firm and hard. Why then no bounce on a driver? Because you must get under the ball every time. Enjoy your bounce, not for me.
Bounce is the enemy
Not always!!
Astonished that a player who is playing national semi-pro golf doesn’t know to open the club face to achieve a higher flight on shorter shots.🧐
I do know how to do that - I literally hit some of those shots in this video 🤣 he is just saying my standard shot is coming out too low and I shouldn't have to open it up so much to get the extra height with the loft I have.
u should use a ping chipr...Nobody should use those kinds of wedges unless you are Justin Thomas or Patrick reed
This is a crazy comment😂😂😂
how's that crazy..90% of shots should be with a wedge where u make solid/flat contact unless u are behind a bunker...bump and run...Don't LET ego mishandle ur game..SHe would save 5 strokes a round with a chipr@@jrbackhousegolf
@@giomusah2155We all would, but what fun would that be? I wanna try a Phil high flop to a foot, and then when I skull it across the green, it gives me an excuse to take another swig of blue label
Where’s yer pride!
You listed Justin Thomas and Patrick Reed. I can understand the one, but I feel the other was listed because he likes fluff the ball. If I’m wrong I apologize.
Very nice and informative video Hannah!!🏌♂⛳😀
thank you!!