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Tommy the album, 1969. Tommy the movie, 1975. Great work, guys! Love the channel
Yeah, this album just came out of nowhere in '69 and blew everyone's mind. The genius of Pete Townsend, not only single-handedly writing it from the ground up, but creating the genre 'rock opera', and not in a weak, soppy pop star way trying to be clever, but genuinely a major cohesive piece of work, that we're still appreciating today.
The double album was 29.90 DeutschMark. I made 85 DM a month! 1969. No wonder i still have it. The movie came later, as you mentioned.
I'm in total agreement, Guys. I remember when it first was released. KMPX in San Francisco played the entire double album without interruption. It almost got that DJ fired since he failed to play any commercial breaks. I was so blown away by this album, I rushed out to buy it at our local music store. I still have that vinyl. I had already been a big fan of The Who. When they played Monterey I was in high school, so I couldn't pull off a way to travel 3 hours or so to get there. We all loved "Magic Bus". So when this album hit the stores, we all had to have it.
@@howarddickson8727to be fair, Hair came out before this, on stage, no less. Is Hair a musical or rock opera, I've heard it called both. There were a couple of lesser known rock operas too. But Tommy was certainly a huge part of the rock opera movement.
@@howarddickson8727 Leonard Bernstein saw Tommy in New York at the Fill ore East and loved it. Bernstein called the album "a powerful performance that outstrips anything that has ever come out of a recording studio.” He saw Pete Townshend after the concert and said “Pete, do you realize what you’ve done?” He recognized the genius behind “Tommy” and it inspired him to write “Mass”.😁
Sally coming on side 4...
"Don't say I didn't warn you."
Best song on the album.
TOMMY , was innovative, but Quadrophenia is the ultimate Rock Opera!. Love you gentlemen taking risks...thank you ! ❤
I liked Tommy, but Quadrophenia (and the tune, Naked Eye) is what turned me into a Who fan. In '75, I turned 18, graduated HS, and could buy beer. I saw Jaws and the Frampton "Comes Alive" tour in the summer, but the highlight of the year was seeing The Who with Mooney in November. Great year! I saw the Tommy tour twice in '89 and once again in the early 2000s, before John passed.
RIP Mooney and John. Thank You!
@@richeaton5752 bother Rich, thank you. what an absolute great time to be alive..88 graduate here, but cut of the same cloth! ✌️
The album came out first 1969. The movie came out in 1975.
There is a great video with a live recording of Tommy at the amphitheater in Los Angeles from 1989. It's The Who with many guest artists such as Phil Collins, Billy Idol, Elton John, Steve Winwood and Patti LaBelle (as the Acid Queen), as well as 12 back-up musicians (among which 5 horns and 3 back-up singers). Simon Philips on drums did an amazing job. Easily my favorite live version of Tommy. Something for a future consideration?
Agree, I think they'd enjoy that too, I mentioned it on their other channel on the Tommy movie. Here's a link to that show: th-cam.com/video/dX0fOyoyOlE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Yez7EOSaAYBVQWZo
Album first, then movie. Just like The Wall
As for Keith Moon & his fills, I heard someone say about the Who that they were all paying lead on their songs. Because of this they sound so huge. When Keith Moon died, the Who added more instruments to the band because Pete Townsend said without Moon they didn't sound as big on stage as they used to.
“This is art here” .. “This is cinematic” …you guys are the absolute best ..
I liked Tommy, but Quadrophenia (and the tune, Naked Eye) is what turned me into a Who fan. In '75, I turned 18, graduated HS, and could buy beer. I saw Jaws in the theater and the Frampton "Comes Alive" tour in the summer, but the highlight of the year was seeing The Who with Mooney in November. Great year! I saw the Tommy tour twice in '89 and once again in the early 2000s, before John passed.
RIP Mooney and John. Thank You!
Quadrophenia was the album that also brought me to The Who... so ambitious
Cinematic maybe but it was scored as a “Rock Opera.” Imagine being at Woodstock and hearing “See me, feel me “ as the sun rises.
My cousin told me about it
Rocks first Opera. Pete’s absolute masterpiece!
Back to uncle Ernie fiddling about... only Moon could make a perv so hilarious while being one of this drummer's heroes. "King of fills" indeed
Tommy the album came out in 1969 , six years before the movie which came it in 1975 as an adaptation of the album.
The album was a genius idea by Pete Townsend and the movie could not not come close to the impact that this album had on rock fans and artists of that era. My older brother took me to the New York City Ballet which performed Tommy as a a musical and dance story when I was 10 years old only a year or 2 after this album came out. It was amazing and so unexpected yet eye opening!
I knew about this album years ago, but I never really listened to it. The production is amazing. Didn't realize that. I might buy the CD. Love Entwistle's bass and Pete's guitar work.
You should if you could find it otherwise I might convince my brother to sell it to you for a couple of thousand dollars, or not!😅
@@joelliebler5690 😂
This album was a turning point for the band. Before this, they were great, but more oriented towards R&B flavoured Rock. Apparently, at the beginning of recording this album, Roger Daltrey saw something in the character and asked Pete Townshend if he could BE Tommy for the album. It gave Daltrey insight into really feeling what he was singing instead of just letting it out. In addition, the whole project was so ambitious from Townshend's point of view that he found he'd unconsciously elevated his game well beyond the prevailing singles market. With both front men pushing themselves harder, it meant Moon and Entwistle could begin to really let loose and show their incredible talent and creativity. Tommy paved the way for Who masterpieces like Who's Next.
Pete Townshend wrote it all, John Entwistle's french horn playing on the last track I feel elevated the level of the music greatly, it just added so much. And to think they made this with little or no outside help and you're talking three musicians, Pete on guitar, John on bass and keith on drums. Totally unreal for 1969.
The crunch in "Pinball Wizard" foretells the sonic direction The Who would take in the future.
Love your reactions, guys, great job as usual!! I have the vinyl LP, saw the movie in '75 and saw it performed on stage in about 1996 or so, and all were excellent! Funny thing about "Pinball Wizard". There was this British music critic they played the LP for prior to release and he told the band he couldn't give it his best score without a song about pinballs or something. Pete wrote the song that night and recorded it the next day and the rest is history!!
Wow the harmonies😮 1:16
It's considered a rock opera. The album came first I was 14 upon it's release, it was ground breaking conceptually.
It's probably been said already guys, but the Tommy album was released in 1969. A full 6 years before the movie. The Who toured the album extensively throughout 1969 and 1970, playing it almost in It's entirety on-stage.
Great stuff guys, once again.
Great reaction guys! Next up has to be "Quadrophenia" Pete Townsends 2nd Rock Opera and to me untouchable. Keith Moons drums in Quadrophenia blow my mind..Nothing like it in Rock n Roll. Believe me
Man, La and Che thank you for getting back to this and really listening to this work. One of the things I always loved about the Who was that they championed the emotions, anxieties and triumphs of young people trying make sense of the twisted world they're thrown into. There is a lot of dark stuff going on in this work and they do it so beautifully. Side 4 coming up and it's a doozy. There is a competitor for 1st Rock opera which is 1968s The Pretty Things " S.F. Sorrow" LP that follows an ordinary man born in the 19th Cent. starting from birth, childhood, young man to WW 1 and it's aftermath up until his death as an old man. Tommy is much more solid and higher in stature but SF Sorrow is very cool and interesting. Thanks fellas, keep healthy and much love from Spain.
great woodstock performance!
Thanks guys!
Love both, movie and album reviews.
We would love your reacting to the greatest musical documentary ever...The Last Waltz. The Band's farewell.
Amazing guest artists. Enjoy!
Muddy Waters was great in that one.
Big WHO fan here WHOs NEXT in my opinion is their best album and that’s saying a lot considering they have so many great albums Pete Townshend is pure genius with his song writing he wrote probably 99% of all The Who’s music and as always great job guys!
One of Keith Moons influences was jazz musician Gene Kruppa. Watch him and his fills with Glen Miller and you'll feel him
When you think about that who are the worldly four members. One of them was a singer only. Well, he did play a harmonica and symbols. But what I’m getting at is only three instrument play in members. One guitar a bass and drums. Amazing sound put out by those three guys. But look who the guys were. John Entwhistle, Pete, Townshend, and Keith Moon. Each one a great and their own right.
I love you guys! Great analysis on so many songs. Tommy,the album came out in 1969,the movie in the mid 70's.
LP about 6 years before the film. The film doesn't follow the LP story exactly. Tommy was innovative and, among other things, explored Townshend's deeply sublimated experience of by and equivalent of an Uncle Ernie. He praised and thanked John Entwistle for writing a few songs that he couldn't for psycho-emotional reasons. He wasn't expecting Roger Daltrey to sing much of it but arrived late to a session when Roger was running through some of the songs and was blown away his new vision of Daltrey inhabiting the character and the song with the depth of a seriously great actor.
The Who had an earlier go at a short operetta on their previous LP, A Quick One, While He's Away. Their manager had challenged Townshend to have a go at opera and Tommy is both a weird story to match any of the classic operas and equals classic operas in complexity of ideas and drama. I was a fraction too young for it so didn't discover The Who for myself till Who's Next and the singles LP, Meaty, Beaty, Big and Bouncy.
Quadrophenia came next. It's a more straightforward story and I wasn't the only one to be slightly disappointed when it came out but, as for many others, it grew on me. It was also made into a film with the film having a different twist to the story which works well.
Tommy, can you hear me? ...was used in a tv commercial in the early 70s for an awareness to health care for children or something to that effect
The album came out way before the movie did. The album was released in 1969 and the movie did not come out until 1975. The album was a classic way before the movie.
For sure and I was nine years old in 1969 when I listened over and over of my older brother’s copy of this unforgettable album!
finally got my new (quite an old second-hand super PC) set up and working with our spare quite high quality TV sound bar and base woofer. At last, for first time in ages, a good sound quality!
I cannot imagine Tommy without Keith Moon.
Watch the 1989 show in LA. Simon Phillips does Moons job like a boss.
to hear the movies cast sing. how great was that. true respect to roger and their vision.
Yes, “insanely creative” just about sums it up!
Btw, if you guys haven’t reviewed it already you should check out what Pete called “Tommy’s parents”…the mini-opera called A Quick One (While He’s Away). The definitive live version is from The Rolling Stones’ Rock & Roll Circus. Absolute fire! 🎸💥
The album was released in May of 1969 the film was released in March of 1975!!!
Tommy's Parents: "Do you think it's alright? I think it's alright"
Narrator: "It was, in fact, not alright"
Many of your contemporaries have reviewed “A Quick On While He’s Away” and pronounced it as an operetta, a 4 song forbearer to a rock opera idea. The preferred version is live from the Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus. th-cam.com/video/RJv2-_--EY4/w-d-xo.html
Album: 1969 Movie: 1975
Pete Townshend had to write additional music to fill out the story so that the movie would make sense linearly.
It was the first and only true Rock Opera
Also you guys need to listen to one of the best live albums in rock history Live at Leeds sadly no video exists that I’ve ever seen. Be sure to get one of the extended versions a lot of cool Tommy stuff kind of takes it to another level with the classic Who live touch. Young Man Blues off this album is just a sick assault on all of your senses. Great homage to the “jazz sage” (as Pete says) Mose Allison.
Original album (that you're listening to) came first. Then they toured the album (occasionally with a few other Who songs). The flamboyant, halluciantory and occasionally bombastic move version came years later (directed by the flamboyant, hallucinatory and occasionally bombastic Ken Russell). After that came the movie soundtrack album with guest artists (but unfortunately with more commercial gloss to the music). Years later revived on Broadway without the band (but under supervision of Townsend). The original album is, and always will be, the classic version.
Broadway show opening next month in NYC. It’s a revival. It’s been done on stage before.
A lot of people refer to this album as a “rock opera”.
Haven't listen to the full album in ages .... although I saw them do the album on tour about 6 years ago...I took my Mom...she was 78 at the time, she loved it other than the skunk weed, lol!
Yet, I know every word to every song...forgot what I dis five minutes ago...but, I magicly know all of the lyrics to most classic rock, especially my favorite band, The Who. The only favorite band I have ever had for 46 years...since I startes listening to music on my own at 8 years old...😂😂😂
This was also on broadway as a play which pete won 2 Tony's for part of the year. Can't wait for side 4 which is my favorite part of the album
Hey guys, you agree?
This is way better than the movie.
The singing, the guitar,bass,drums, horns(by John Entwistle).
Harmonies are awesom, like you said.
Love this album ❤.
The movie is fun ,with some excellent parts(Tina Turner).
Did your check the live performance, with Patty Labelle doing the acid Queen?
Please do,you'll like it.
Thanks for this one.
Great stuff. 😁👊👍
Great pick guys - this music is now 55 years old but is surely standing up as a great listen. I was 16 when it came out and got transfixed by it. I had to keep stealing it from my older brothers room until he relented and gave me his by now weather beaten copy. Been a lifelong Who fan ever since. Saw them live here in London countless times. Always a brilliant, high energy show. We were spoilt in those two decades (60's and 70's) - you could see Brit bands - The Stones, Pink Floyd, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Camel, Ten Years after, Wishbone Ash, The Kinks, Eric Clapton, Small Faces, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Ian Dury and the Blockheads, Dire Straits, Rory Gallagher (Irish band) and many more quite regularly - never saw the Beatles to my lasting regret
You guys are helping keep some of this very worthwhile music alive. It is, some of it at least, the new 'classical' music. Rock on as they used to say...
I listened to this when I was 10 or so over and over, dunno why. Then when I got married and had a son he was severely autistic and couldn't really speak hear or know what he saw.
I was exposed to Tommy as a seven-year-old. My older sisters were crazy about it, so naturally I was intrigued. Forgot all about it until high school when Who Are You came out. This is the same band that did Tommy? Wow! Then the Kids Are Alright movie came out hooked me good. Watched it numerous times at the midnight movies as a double feature with Quadrophenia. Wow, that was an album first too?! Baba OReily, Behind Blue Eyes, and ... wait for it ... Won't Get Fooled Again is the same band?! Crazy. Empty Glass? Wow. A decade later I married my high school sweetheart and we have two autistic boys, one of whom is non-verbal. It's Hard, so hard. Art helps. Try listening to REM's - The Great Beyond imagining it is your son singing to you.
@@novanights2chevy597 Yes. But moreso The Wrong Child; "I'll try to sing a happy song, I'm not supposed to be like this, but it's ok" 😢😢
Have you finished the movie yet? The album was first by several years. A masterpiece from Pete Townshend and a true rock opera that was also made into a Broadway musical.
Louis, I would definitely call Hair a musical, as I would also Jesus Christ Superstar... tagging them rock operas by some was done retrospectively. The very first time I heard the term 'rock opera' was at Tommy's release from the music press at the time.
It was cinematic when it burst onto the music world. No one thought of doing a story like this. The director of the movie was a natural choice. see his other movies and you will get the picture,
I think on "Smash the Mirror" you can sort of hear Daltrey's early days covering soul classics...
Gentlemen another fantastic reaction. This is legendary thank you for what you are doing. Love it keep up the great work….
Best side on the album, IMO.
Tommy’s one of those double albums like Quadrophenia, incantations, and the Lamb where over the course of years each of the 4 sides is my favorite. Tommy too for sure.❤🎉❤
Saw them do the entire Opera for one of the last times in (Nov?) 1969.
What a show. What a stack of speakers. Sounds different with literal walls of speakers.
Album waaaay before the movie. Peter Townsend is the mozart of our time.
Movie came out at least 5 years after the album. We used to read lots of album liner notes, reviews by critics and poured over the lyrics to try and get what was going on. Tommy was also performed as live theater before the movie was released.
I borrowed this album from my local library many times from the time I first spotted it there.
Hell of an artistic achievement, imo.
Thanks guys, ttys. 😉🤙🏼🎶❤️🪞✨️🕊
so glad you guys are taking the time to have the full album experience... at some point the solo project album 'Psycho Derelict' by Pete Townshend would probably tickle your ears and intellects in a profound way... again, thanks for your curiosity!
This album was classified as a Rock Opera. It was designed to take you through Tommy’s journey through music. The movie was several years later and performed well due to the cast and artists as well as the newer renditions like Elton John’s Pinball Wizard.
Pete Townshend celebrated his 21st birthday while recording this album! Let that sink in 😳
Not quite ... He was born in 1945, the album was recorded starting in 1968, so he was 23 going on 24. Still pretty impressive, though. Same as The Beatles writing some of their best stuff before McCartney was 26.
@@keithdixon6595 I’m an old stoner from way back then… Being off by 2 yrs is a score for me! 🤣
@@Rock_Snob Haha! Quote Of The Day. Love it! (me too) 😵💫
Well, me too! I bought the album the day it came out, Quadrophenia too. I had to look up Pete's birthday, I just thought since they'd been recording since about 1966 he was probably older than 21 in 68-9.
Tommy the album fell through a wormhole, and was released after Tommy the movie.
The ALBUM came out FIRST and then the movie and it was quite a bit of time in between the two if I'm not mistaken!! I was wondering when you guys were going to get back to this album!!😮
When this album was released it was touted as the first "rock opera"!
Probably because of the fact that it tells a story song by song throughout the entire album!! It was a completely new concept when it was made what other bands, like Pink Floyd, followed suit!!
Killer reaction - the reason why it sounds to you like the movie came out first is because this album was conceived in such a way as to resemble a Broadway cast recording. Many of these elements were familiar to fans of musical theatre but it was totally new for a rock audience.
The album came first...some of the songs in the film are sung by roger as tommy vs sung by pete on record..such as sensation
Album came first... it's a Rock opera.. one of the first ever. A story in song.
Same movements as a standard opera too. i.e. Overture (all main themes in one 'song'), etc
If you check out The Who live at Tanglewood that's here on TH-cam, I was the sound tech for Bill Graham Productions. The video goes off abiut half way through the performance, but I'm proud to say my audio remains good.
In that live concert, they do their last live performance of Tommy. Seeing this live is 1000 times better than the LP in my opinion. They also give it a good bash at Woodstock. Mesmerizing! ✌️
THE DEEPER MEANING according to Pete Townshend:
Basically a story about a spiritual awakening.
In Meher Baba's teachings (Pete’s Guru), the mirror represents the ego or the false self, while the SOUL is the TRUE SELF. The mirror is a symbol of the mind and its tendency to reflect only the external, superficial aspects of reality. This is expressed by Tommy throwing away his moms jewelry then later cleansing her in the ocean baptism style, telling the bikers not to smoke pot or drink if they want to reach the purely spiritual state of nirvana. They wanted him to help them find God but later rejected him because the parents hypocritical stance.
Baba believed that the universe is composed of vibrations and frequencies, and that everything in the universe, including human beings, is a manifestation of these vibrations; And that these vibrations arise from the same source and are therefore interconnected. That everything in the universe is in a state of constant vibration and change, and that these vibrations are what give rise to the ILLUSION of SEPARATION and duality. Tesla hinted at this too.
In Pete’s words:
“Tommy’s real self (the one in the mirror) represents the aim (God) and the illusory self (the physical Tommy) is the teacher; life, the way, the path and all this. (The physical is illusory to the soul). The coming together of these are what make him aware. They make him see and hear and speak so he becomes a saint who everybody flocks to. The offshoot of this was that Tommy experienced the world through the vibrations of a pinball machine, which would figuratively be reflected in the vibrations of music”…”Tommy feels everything simply as rhythms and vibration”.
“In general terms, man is regarded as living in an unreal world of illusory values that he’s imposed on himself. He’s feeling his way by evolution back to God - realization and the illusion is broken away, bit by bit. You need the illusions until you reach very pure saintly states. When you lose all contact with your illusory state, you become totally dead - but totally aware. You’ve died for the last time. You don’t incarnate again; you don’t do anything again - you just blend. It’s the realization of what we all intellectually know - universal consciousness - but it’s no good to know until you can actually realize it”.
Imagine the likely-hood of the Tommie movie being produced without this album already being a hit? Wouldn't have happened, especially with all the stars in the movie.
About halfway between the album and movie, there was yet another version the Who did with the London Philharmonic Orchestra, more guest stars playing characters, and a full chorus. In that one, Rod Stewart sang Pinball Wizard and Ringo Starr was Uncle Ernie.
This album changed songwriting forever. Pete Townshend is a genius. I love his solo catalog.
They did all of Tommy on tour in the US including Woodstock. The movie and later Broadway play were later Townsend projects.
You should check the live rendtion, The Who Live at Leeds 1970. Amazing.
Tommy can you hear me!
Pinball... :) Many many hours of playing. It actually may have saved my life (and someone elses) because it gave me great hand-eye coordination and I didn't mash (t-bone, broadside) a lady who pulled out in front of me but drove through a ditch instead (and pulled the car back out and went right around her and a telephone pole).
Finally getting g to the good songs..
Oh boy, the fourth side is the payoff. We're Not Gonna Take is a personal favorite, for the slamming performance and the social commentary. "And, put in your earplugs, put on your eye shades, you know where to put the cork."
This is great... The movie, at the time, was widely considered to be crap -- and everybody was right!!!
I have both this album and the Pinball Wizard movie.
The album was unquestionably first. It was literally conceived as an opera, It was HUGELY successful and the movie was made a through j) to cash in on the album's popularity and k) to make more clear things that were inferred or obscure on the album.
Nice reactions to Tommy Side 3. To answer your ? : Tommy was released in 1969 , the Who performed the "See Me, Feel Me"" medley @ Woodstock. I think it next was performed in London's Theater as world's first Rock Opera. Then made into a film in 1975 by Ken Russell, British avant- garde director who probably saw it on a
London stage (?) Believe me the Who /Pete Townsend called it a Rock Opera, he saw a stage potential. If you asked Townsend he'd never imagined this as a film. IMHO
Pinball Wizard is an incredible piece of art…
I like the album more than the movie. I'm glad you watched the movie first.
There's actually 3 Tommy's of impact between 1969-1975.
1. Tommy by the Who (1969);
2.Tommy - LSO (1972)
3. Tommy The Movie (1975).
1. Is truly just The Who;
2. You have The London Symphony Orchestra as the main feature with participation's of Roger Daltry (as Tommy), John Entwistle (as Cousin Kevin), as well as Ritchie Havens (the preacher), Ringo Starr (as Uncle Ernie), Rod Stewart (as the Pinball Wizard), Merry Clayton (as the Acid Queen) and so on.
Lastly, 3. is the movie soundtrack with all four Who members plus a plethora of musicians seen in the film or not.
Bad Company - Live for the Music
Oh Keith ❤
Not sure if anyone has mentioned but for me Eyesight to the Blind is the song that clearer better in the movie than on the album. Clapton is just a badass in that scene/song. I also love how Pete and Ox are sort of the ushers/guards with their guitars going up and down if I’m remembering right. Ned to watch your movie reaction. … and I’ve always loved Ann-Margret!
Hey La and Chi, love your reactions. I think Tommy might be considered the first rock opera. That was Pete Townsends brilliance, to conceive and compose a complete dramatic story in album form. Album first 1969, movie adaptation 1975. Roger Waters and Pink Floyds the Wall was the same way. Album concept and creation first in 1979 and movie later adapted in 1882.
Funny you said "score album". This album is considered the first Rock Opera written. Love your work and understanding of music.
Tommy is a masterpiece. But you should listen to Who's Next, one of the greatest rock albums of all time.
If you want the true power of Tommy, check out their live performance from Woodstock. They do Tommy, Pinball Wizard, Sparks and See Me, Feel Me.
Finally getting back to it, huh?🎉
Yes indeed
@@AirplayBeatscheck out the band playing it live in 1970 at the Isle of Wight festival th-cam.com/video/V2bXcL3clF8/w-d-xo.htmlsi=oMY6MQuBn7nucSf3
@@AirplayBeatsnow get back to Grateful Dead with this video of the band playing Bertha in 1989 th-cam.com/video/0bzq24rxUNE/w-d-xo.htmlsi=F-vtpgemIm1ldCtk
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The Doctor is my favorite song off this album.
Love your reactions. Hope you'll do side for soon. I think Sally Simpson is one of the best tracks.
Album first. Movie was an afterthought!!
Did you guys ever do a reaction on Side 4 of Tommy? Or is it yet to come?
Album first